Prey Weekly Update #9

Joe Siegler · 03-10-2006, 03:02 PM

Welcome to the latest edition of the Prey Weekly Update series. A few weeks ago you were told you'd get an update from Venom games in the UK on the Xbox 360 version of Prey. That's what we're bringing you today. This week's update is not from Chris at Human Head, but it's by Peter Johnson at Venom Games in the UK.

Chris will return next week with the next Prey Weekly Update. There's plenty to read in Peter's update, so let's get right to it....

We started work in earnest on bringing Prey to the 360 in late June 2005, although we had been looking at the code a little before that to ready ourselves and plan our attack. It was amusing to see on some gaming forums that some posters seemed to think that the announcement about it last month meant that we had just started work on it, this is far from the case.

As our aim was to keep everything as faithful to the PC original as possible, we knew it would be mainly a coding job, with relatively little work needed on the art side. It broke down into a number of tasks - converting the engine itself to get it running on the 360 platform, and the areas where we needed to make changes to better suit the platform - such as the control system, the front end and the integration of Xbox Live.

http://www.3drealms.com/news/2006/03...kly_dev_9.html

MAT · 03-10-2006, 03:17 PM

Although I am not interested in playing Prey on xbox 360, what this guys achieved in such a short period of time is applaudable. Bravo venom games!

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Grease Monkey
Can you guess what this achievement is for?

No idea. Will it unveil some Duke Nukem Forever screenshots or something?

Kristian Joensen · 03-10-2006, 03:17 PM

Cool, looks like they have put alot of work into this.

Cerberus_e · 03-10-2006, 03:20 PM

Peter looks a bit like John Carmack

Micki! · 03-10-2006, 03:27 PM

Nice update... Although, i'm not interested in getting a X360 to play Prey, i'm deffenately glad to hear that both gamers will get a similar gaming experience...

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MAT said:

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Grease Monkey
Can you guess what this achievement is for?

No idea. Will it unveil some Duke Nukem Forever screenshots or something?

It has deffenately something to do with using the Wrench as a weapon...
My guess, is it's winning a MultiPrey fight, with using wrench only...

SyntaxN · 03-10-2006, 03:49 PM

Nice update, but the controler setup for the crouching looks a little bit strange imo, in most shooters for the Xbox (and it always worked) you can crouch with a click on the right stick and not with the B button...

ultra tree 85! · 03-10-2006, 04:09 PM

Cool! I didn't know that venom games had just started working on it around june 2005! I hope everything goes well with their work.

George Broussard · 03-10-2006, 05:21 PM

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SyntaxN said:
Nice update, but the controler setup for the crouching looks a little bit strange imo, in most shooters for the Xbox (and it always worked) you can crouch with a click on the right stick and not with the B button...

There will be multiple configs and I'm certatin we will default to different controls, more along the lines of what's standard on 360 shooters.

Kristian Joensen · 03-10-2006, 05:24 PM

George, have you guys at 3DR got Xbox 360 development kits to test Prey with yet ?

SyntaxN · 03-10-2006, 05:25 PM

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George Broussard said:

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SyntaxN said:
Nice update, but the controler setup for the crouching looks a little bit strange imo, in most shooters for the Xbox (and it always worked) you can crouch with a click on the right stick and not with the B button...

There will be multiple configs and I'm certatin we will default to different controls, more along the lines of what's standard on 360 shooters.

cool

When talking about the 360, I´m curious if there will be splitscreen multiprey for example...

Gamebrain · 03-10-2006, 05:27 PM

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Doing “Prey” has necessitated putting progress on our other, unannounced, next-gen title on hold for over 6 months

Hmm, wonder what that is.

Dont worry, I know its not DNF (you guys take care of that)

KaiserSoze · 03-10-2006, 05:33 PM

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Kristian Joensen said:
George, have you guys at 3DR got Xbox 360 development kits to test Prey with yet ?

I believe Scott Miller posted in his blog that they recieved devs kits from MS.

Kristian Joensen · 03-10-2006, 06:06 PM

He DID ? Last I saw he posted that they still hadn't got them even if they where promised that they should get them.

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-- "...if I were a cynic I'd almost suspect some sort of cozy arrangement between Microsoft and 3DRealms..."

It's not as cosy as I'd hope. We are still desperately in need of a dev kit from MSoft to test Prey. We could begin testing Duke on a dev kit too, but alas...

And an Xbox magazine just came out rating Prey as the #4 game to look forward to this year (#1 was Halo 3, #2 was Oblivion, #3 I forgot). Bottom-line, it can't come out if we don't get a kit to being play-testing it.

- Scott Miller, February 23th, 2006.

03-11-2006, 10:36 AM

To throw my hat in on the Grease Monkey Idea I think it has to do with killing and killing with the monkey wrench.

Basically doing lots and lots of melee kills with the monkey wrench as your prefered weapon.

I hope I get a prize if I'm right.

-Maniac

Malgon · 03-11-2006, 06:20 PM

Even though I don't own a 360, I still found this to be the longest and most interesting update. A lot of good info on how to get Prey to have the closest experience to the PC version. Sounds like a lot of effort they are putting into the development of it. Good read.

helious · 03-12-2006, 06:14 AM

In my oppinion, the X360 version delivers much more than the pc version.

Achievements, Gamescore, Live! (Nothing at pc can never come close to Live!), ..
.Im glad to hear about all the exstras they are making to the X360 version..

avatar_58 · 03-12-2006, 06:17 AM

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helious said:
Achievements, Gamescore, Live! (Nothing at pc can never come close to Live!), ..
.Im glad to hear about all the exstras they are making to the X360 version..

If that stuff matters to you. Personally I rather like having free online play on PC, and I could care less if other people see how often I play or how many frags I tally up. Especially considering I'd be more interested in Single Player anyway.

Micki! · 03-12-2006, 06:20 AM

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helious said:
In my oppinion, the X360 version delivers much more than the pc version.

Achievements, Gamescore, Live! (Nothing at pc can never come close to Live!), ..
.Im glad to hear about all the exstras they are making to the X360 version..

Well, they're sayiung they're trying to make the X360 version as close to the PC version as possible...
So appearantly there must be something the PC version has, that they're trying to add into the X360 version...

Of course, i realize that this is just your opinion, and i can't demand from you that you have to agree with any of us, or reversed...

Denz · 03-12-2006, 06:53 AM

Auto aim sucks.

I want mouse and special keyboard for consoles and then i will considere FPS on consoles.

shiranui · 03-12-2006, 06:57 AM

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avatar_58 said:

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helious said:
Achievements, Gamescore, Live! (Nothing at pc can never come close to Live!), ..
.Im glad to hear about all the exstras they are making to the X360 version..

If that stuff matters to you. Personally I rather like having free online play on PC, and I could care less if other people see how often I play or how many frags I tally up. Especially considering I'd be more interested in Single Player anyway.

Exactly, who, over the age of 12, honestly gives a shit?

Cerberus_e · 03-12-2006, 07:13 AM

Aiming yourself rather than relying on auto-aim, now that's a TRUE achievement

Gryph · 03-12-2006, 10:48 AM

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shiranui said:

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avatar_58 said:

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helious said:
Achievements, Gamescore, Live! (Nothing at pc can never come close to Live!), ..
.Im glad to hear about all the exstras they are making to the X360 version..

If that stuff matters to you. Personally I rather like having free online play on PC, and I could care less if other people see how often I play or how many frags I tally up. Especially considering I'd be more interested in Single Player anyway.

Exactly, who, over the age of 12, honestly gives a shit?

Seriously. I'm surprised so many people care about Achievements and GamerScore. It's like those guys that put their PC specs in their sig to wave their e-penis.

That being said the only advantage X360 version has is the Live integration.

hell-angel · 03-13-2006, 02:00 AM

I didn't read all of it since I am totally not interested in an Xbox version.

Still, there where some interesting parts on porting, more so since I once made a port of MAME (I know, it's not as big as prey but some principles are the same.

)

ShadeEX · 03-13-2006, 03:36 AM

Nice update... i especially like the thing about the menu with talons eye... looks cool...

Joe Siegler · 03-23-2006, 10:04 AM

No more guesses on what this "Grease Monkey" Xbox 360 Achivement is about? I haven't seen anyone get it quite right yet.

Micki! · 03-23-2006, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

No more guesses on what this "Grease Monkey" Xbox 360 Achivement is about? I haven't seen anyone get it quite right yet.

My guess was something with the wrench... But appearantly it's not the case...

Maybe avoiding as many attacks as possible (or even not getting hit once)

Kalki · 03-23-2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

No more guesses on what this "Grease Monkey" Xbox 360 Achivement is about? I haven't seen anyone get it quite right yet.

Vehicular kills? Like in the space combat?

Micki! · 03-23-2006, 01:28 PM

^^
Yeah, maybe bumping into players on foot with vehicles..?! (instead of using weapons)

hell-angel · 03-24-2006, 01:52 AM

A grease monkey is usually a mechanic who repairs the ships. So I guess it has something to do with that.

Micki! · 03-24-2006, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by hell-angel

A grease monkey is usually a mechanic who repairs the ships. So I guess it has something to do with that.

Yes, a Grease monkey is some sort of nickname for mechanics/engineers...
So that's why i was counting on the wrench (since it's a mechanics tool)

Would be cool if Tommy could repair ships with the wrench...

Kalki · 03-24-2006, 04:03 AM

Perhaps it involves killing with the mass tow on the shuttle. Or using it to fling the wrench & skewer enemies.

Cerberus_e · 03-24-2006, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Micki!

Yes, a Grease monkey is some sort of nickname for mechanics/engineers...
So that's why i was counting on the wrench (since it's a mechanics tool)

Let's combine the two then: a grease monkey destroys a ship with the wrench

hell-angel · 03-24-2006, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cerberus_e

Let's combine the two then: a grease monkey destroys a ship with the wrench

And by accident Cerberus_e guesses it right when he tries to make a joke. (well, I don't know of course, but that is just what immediately popped into my head.

)

Micki! · 03-24-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by hell-angel

And by accident Cerberus_e guesses it right when he tries to make a joke. (well, I don't know of course, but that is just what immediately popped into my head.

)

I could actually imagine that happen...

Joe Siegler · 03-24-2006, 10:41 AM

OK, it does involve the wrench.

Cerberus_e · 03-24-2006, 11:43 AM

Killing a boss with the wrench?

Talos · 03-24-2006, 12:09 PM

Killing everything with the wrench *g*?

Micki! · 03-24-2006, 04:30 PM

My very first guess was beating certain amounts of Multiprey oppenents with the wrench...

Maybe beat a cettain amount of enemies with the wrench... Or just beat a few/buch of levels with it...

Kristian Joensen · 03-24-2006, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TaloS

Killing everything with the wrench *g*?

This might well be it considering that Tim, mentioned that it was possible because of their weapon balancing in the newest interview.

Joe Siegler · 03-24-2006, 05:13 PM

If someone guesses the right answer, I'll say so. Hasn't happened yet.

03-11-2006, 10:36 AM	#14
Maniac536 Guest	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 To throw my hat in on the Grease Monkey Idea I think it has to do with killing and killing with the monkey wrench. Basically doing lots and lots of melee kills with the monkey wrench as your prefered weapon. I hope I get a prize if I'm right. -Maniac

03-23-2006, 10:04 AM	#25
Joe Siegler Former 3DR Staff	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 No more guesses on what this "Grease Monkey" Xbox 360 Achivement is about? I haven't seen anyone get it quite right yet. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009 "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

03-24-2006, 04:03 AM	#31
Kalki Moderator	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 Perhaps it involves killing with the mass tow on the shuttle. Or using it to fling the wrench & skewer enemies. __________________ "Gentlemen, generations to follow will see us as the first pioneers of the internet. They will look upon our days as those of brave spirits and free ideals - where men were men, women were men and children were the FBI."

03-24-2006, 10:41 AM	#35
Joe Siegler Former 3DR Staff	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 OK, it does involve the wrench. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009 "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

03-24-2006, 05:13 PM	#40
Joe Siegler Former 3DR Staff	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 If someone guesses the right answer, I'll say so. Hasn't happened yet. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009 "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

03-10-2006, 03:02 PM	#1
Joe Siegler Former 3DR Staff	Prey Weekly Update #9 Welcome to the latest edition of the Prey Weekly Update series. A few weeks ago you were told you'd get an update from Venom games in the UK on the Xbox 360 version of Prey. That's what we're bringing you today. This week's update is not from Chris at Human Head, but it's by Peter Johnson at Venom Games in the UK. Chris will return next week with the next Prey Weekly Update. There's plenty to read in Peter's update, so let's get right to it.... We started work in earnest on bringing Prey to the 360 in late June 2005, although we had been looking at the code a little before that to ready ourselves and plan our attack. It was amusing to see on some gaming forums that some posters seemed to think that the announcement about it last month meant that we had just started work on it, this is far from the case. As our aim was to keep everything as faithful to the PC original as possible, we knew it would be mainly a coding job, with relatively little work needed on the art side. It broke down into a number of tasks - converting the engine itself to get it running on the 360 platform, and the areas where we needed to make changes to better suit the platform - such as the control system, the front end and the integration of Xbox Live. http://www.3drealms.com/news/2006/03...kly_dev_9.html __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009 "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

03-10-2006, 03:17 PM	#3
Kristian Joensen	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 Cool, looks like they have put alot of work into this. __________________ The Basic Law of the Danish Realm is perphaps one of the most irrelevant constitutional documents in the western world - Kári Á Rógvi, Cand.Jur, LL.M The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

03-10-2006, 03:20 PM	#4
Cerberus_e	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 Peter looks a bit like John Carmack

03-10-2006, 03:49 PM	#6
SyntaxN	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 Nice update, but the controler setup for the crouching looks a little bit strange imo, in most shooters for the Xbox (and it always worked) you can crouch with a click on the right stick and not with the B button...

03-10-2006, 04:09 PM	#7
ultra tree 85!	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 Cool! I didn't know that venom games had just started working on it around june 2005! I hope everything goes well with their work. __________________ Duke Nukem Forever will be released in 2010. The community will realize its dream of playing the greatest game of all time. :)

03-10-2006, 05:24 PM	#9
Kristian Joensen	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 George, have you guys at 3DR got Xbox 360 development kits to test Prey with yet ? __________________ The Basic Law of the Danish Realm is perphaps one of the most irrelevant constitutional documents in the western world - Kári Á Rógvi, Cand.Jur, LL.M The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

03-11-2006, 06:20 PM	#15
Malgon	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 Even though I don't own a 360, I still found this to be the longest and most interesting update. A lot of good info on how to get Prey to have the closest experience to the PC version. Sounds like a lot of effort they are putting into the development of it. Good read. __________________ -Most wanted games: Doom 4, Tomb Raider, Beyond Good and Evil 2

03-12-2006, 06:14 AM	#16
helious	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 In my oppinion, the X360 version delivers much more than the pc version. Achievements, Gamescore, Live! (Nothing at pc can never come close to Live!), .. .Im glad to hear about all the exstras they are making to the X360 version..

03-12-2006, 06:53 AM	#19
Denz	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 Auto aim sucks. I want mouse and special keyboard for consoles and then i will considere FPS on consoles. __________________ *crunchy superman said:* 10 years and two complete restarts - that's either one very effective filter, or a whole lotta shit. :D

03-12-2006, 07:13 AM	#21
Cerberus_e	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 Aiming yourself rather than relying on auto-aim, now that's a TRUE achievement

03-13-2006, 02:00 AM	#23
hell-angel	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 I didn't read all of it since I am totally not interested in an Xbox version. Still, there where some interesting parts on porting, more so since I once made a port of MAME (I know, it's not as big as prey but some principles are the same. )

03-13-2006, 03:36 AM	#24
ShadeEX	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 Nice update... i especially like the thing about the menu with talons eye... looks cool... __________________ Quote: "In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluxuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data." My Youtube Page-My Website(Not updated yet)-My Other Blog

03-23-2006, 01:28 PM	#28
Micki!	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 ^^ Yeah, maybe bumping into players on foot with vehicles..?! (instead of using weapons) __________________ A true genius does not need boundaries such as 'common sense'

03-24-2006, 01:52 AM	#29
hell-angel	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 A grease monkey is usually a mechanic who repairs the ships. So I guess it has something to do with that.

03-24-2006, 11:43 AM	#36
Cerberus_e	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 Killing a boss with the wrench?

03-24-2006, 12:09 PM	#37
Talos	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 Killing everything with the wrench g?

03-24-2006, 04:30 PM	#38
Micki!	Re: Prey Weekly Update #9 My very first guess was beating certain amounts of Multiprey oppenents with the wrench... Maybe beat a cettain amount of enemies with the wrench... Or just beat a few/buch of levels with it... __________________ A true genius does not need boundaries such as 'common sense'