Command and Conquer 3 - Page 2

Assault · 03-26-2006, 05:13 AM

Wow, another exclusive... this exclusive will be a week later on every site if it’s really that big.

Beelze · 03-27-2006, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Opus131

What's the difference? Westwood it's gone eitherway...

EA still has Louis Castle, co-founder of Westwood, as well as the two lead designers that were with the C&C team from the beginning (and all the way to Firestorm); Adam Isgreen and Mike Lightner. Also, the producer of Tiberian Sun and Firestorm is with EA, even though he isn't stationed at EALA. Sure, the original C&C creators (Brett Sperry and Joe Bostic) aren't working for EA, but there are still traces of Westwood inside EA. Those who still remain surely have a good idea of where the series was headed. Or so I hope.

Assuming PC Gamer isn't pulling (and breaking) our legs, this should either be about a new C&C game or a new Starcraft. If it's a C&C game, it should be "Tiberian Twilight", but another Red Alert doesn't seem unlikely. Hopefully, it's not another Generals, and hopefully they've not created a new C&C universe... again. Well, it could be interesting if they gave us a Fantasy C&C, but I'd prefer if they would stick with the Tiberian Saga and not dillute the franchise further. If it's Starcraft 2, then I guess I should play the original.

Opus131 · 03-27-2006, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Beelze

If it's Starcraft 2, then I guess I should play the original.

You have never played Stacraft...

Beelze · 03-27-2006, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Opus131

You have never played Stacraft...

Only if I count the few times I participated in multiplayer battles. Starcraft is but one of the many apparent gems I have to get my hands on sooner or later.

Kristian Joensen · 03-27-2006, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Opus131

What's the difference? Westwood it's gone eitherway...

By this statement you are reducing Westwood to a mere name.

Karthik · 03-27-2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Beelze

Well, it could be interesting if they gave us a Fantasy C&C, but I'd prefer .....

Hell NOOO. The last time a franchise went from modern age to stone age ended up bombing...see Total Annihilation Kingdoms. That's like asking Battlefield 1642AD.

Opus131 · 03-27-2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

By this statement you are reducing Westwood to a mere name.

Whereas some people are reducing a developing team to a few leading individuals.

What if the magic of Westwood relied on the chemistry of all the original developers working togheter?

I'm not at all impressed with they have produced so far, thus i have to assume whatever it was that made Westwood great it's now lost...

Kristian Joensen · 03-27-2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Opus131

Whereas some people are reducing a developing team to a few leading individuals.

What if the magic of Westwood relied on the chemistry of all the original developers working togheter?

I'm not at all impressed with they have produced so far, thus i have to assume whatever it was that made Westwood great it's now lost...

That is a wrong assumption. It might also have to do with decisions in the upper management of EA, rather the people "on the floor" in EALA.

Also, I think it wrong to reduce a development studio to a name and ALSO wrong to reduce it a few "core" people and ALSO wrong to the say that it depends on every last one of them.

Opus131 · 03-27-2006, 01:29 PM

^ Fair enough, but unless they prove themselves i'm not going to raise my hopes too high with another C&C game...

Beelze · 03-27-2006, 02:24 PM

I'm curious as to which C&C games disappointed you, and in what ways. Please, elaborate!

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Originally Posted by Karthik

Hell NOOO. The last time a franchise went from modern age to stone age ended up bombing...see Total Annihilation Kingdoms. That's like asking Battlefield 1642AD.

Battlefield 1642 AD!? I'm sold!

Actually, I was just saying that that's pretty much the only interesting ground left to cover. They've already got C&C games in modern and futuristic eras.

Opus131 · 03-27-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Beelze

I'm curious as to which C&C games disappointed you, and in what ways. Please, elaborate!

I don't have time to elaborate as i'm at work at the moment, but to answer your first question, the C&C games i didn't like were Tiberian Sun, Red Alert 2 (yes, Red Alert 2) and Generals.

It's a matter of fact, the only two C&C games i really liked were the original and the first Red Alert.

After that the series just lost me...

Beelze · 03-27-2006, 02:55 PM

I can see where you're coming from. I thought Tiberian Sun was decent, but it should've been more than that. I didn't like certain design decisions, such as having the story told from third-person (meaning that you, as commander, was actually physically present and active in the videos).

As for Red Alert 2, I can see it being disliked for its campy tone and the way it ignored the timeline. It basically created its own game universe, weakly linked to the first Red Alert (which was already linked to the first C&C). Personally, I thought the campy tone was entertaining, and I had a lot of fun playing (especially the multiplayer).

I've never really played Generals, but I disliked the idea of them adding yet another game universe. To me, this was just an attempt to milk the franchise (kind of too early to do that though, since there was more of the original saga to be told). Plus, there are no videos in-between missions! That should be a trademark of the C&C series. I'm sure the game is decent though.

The first C&C, the first Red Alert, and Red Alert 2 are my favorites. Story-wise, the Tiberian saga wins over the spin-off that is Red Alert 2, but I think I enjoyed the gameplay in Red Alert 2 the most.

Tang Lung · 03-27-2006, 03:39 PM

I loved all the C&C games except for Red Alert 2. I just didn't get it.

First C&C is one of my all time fav's though, and my favorite of the RTS games. Generals was really fun, teh battles had alot of impact and multiplayer is still fun to this day (I still play it alot).

The exclusive they have is probably a follow up on the Medeval:Total War article. Either that or another Warcraft RTS.

ZuljinRaynor · 04-18-2006, 02:25 PM

Tiberium Twilight... or as it's now called: Command and Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars. I won't say much about it... but KANE!!!

Kristian Joensen · 04-18-2006, 02:45 PM

Cool, what do they say about the July issue ?

KaiserSoze · 04-18-2006, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

Cool, what do they say about the July issue ?

I think he *was* referring to the July issue. Looks like C&C 3 is the world exclusive rts game they were referring too last issue.

dark_angel · 04-18-2006, 02:51 PM

^^^
Come on! more info...

Kristian Joensen · 04-18-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KaiserSoze

I think he *was* referring to the July issue. Looks like C&C 3 is the world exclusive rts game they were referring too last issue.

Yeah you are correct, I meant what where they claiming about the next issue in the C&C3 issue ?

Mountain Man · 04-18-2006, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Beelze

Battlefield 1642 AD!? I'm sold!

Battlegrounds 2 TC for Half-Life 2. Well, it's not quite 1642...maybe a hundreds years later.

Cerberus_e · 04-18-2006, 03:17 PM

A new Command & Conquer game? Why is it called "3"? I didn't know there was a second.

SyntaxN · 04-18-2006, 03:19 PM

I hope it´s true.

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Originally Posted by Cerberus_e

A new Command & Conquer game? Why is it called "3"? I didn't know there was a second.

C&C Tiberian Sun was C&C 2.

Kristian Joensen · 04-18-2006, 03:22 PM

"C&C Tiberian Sun was C&C 2."

You are correct.

"I hope it´s true."

What are you talking about, ZuljinRaynor got the magazine.

SyntaxN · 04-18-2006, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

What are you talking about, ZuljinRaynor got the magazine.

I want scans first

Tang Lung · 04-18-2006, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ZuljinRaynor

Tiberium Twilight... or as it's now called: Command and Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars. I won't say much about it... but KANE!!!

No shit??

More info!! pics?

ZuljinRaynor · 04-18-2006, 04:04 PM

First of all, I won't scan it for 2 reasons, 1. My computer is dead and it's a pain to get the scanner working on other computers for some reason, 2. I'm not going to scan a magazine. Would a cover suffice? I'll take a photo of it.

Tang Lung · 04-18-2006, 04:07 PM

We understand if you don't want to scan it, but does it actually have any pics and info in the magazine? Does it look good?

Opus131 · 04-18-2006, 04:08 PM

Ho, so it was another C&C?

Call me when the Supreme Commander is out...

ZuljinRaynor · 04-18-2006, 04:14 PM

Well, they got screenies, think C&C Generals graphics souped up and layered with the Tiberium Universe. They got info, Kane is back, release 2007, Story is more connected to mission, FMVs not filmed yet (that's what they said and if they really are talking about FMVs, w00t FMVs!) and some info like that. I'll be posting the cover shortly once I get rid of my name and address.

ZuljinRaynor · 04-18-2006, 04:21 PM

Okay, here is the cover. If a mod feels like it should be deleted, then do it.

ZuljinRaynor · 04-18-2006, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

Cool, what do they say about the July issue ?

They are going to be celebrating 150 issues, so it's going to be something like that. They said they'll be having stuff about older games, so I can't wait.

Tang Lung · 04-18-2006, 04:26 PM

badass!

If I had a 'games Im looking forward to' list, this would be the only game on there!

SyntaxN · 04-18-2006, 04:43 PM

/me wants ingame pictures

Tang Lung · 04-18-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SyntaxN

/me wants ingame pictures

What ^ said!

ZuljinRaynor · 04-18-2006, 04:57 PM

Argh, grr, gah.

If someone can find me the link to someplace that shows me how to spawn a new Shadowmere (Armored) (Elven) in Oblivion, then you'll get your scans. My friend said he saw it on Gamefaqs, but I can't find it.

There is your task.

Denz · 04-18-2006, 05:01 PM

And wtf AOE III expansion! \o/

ZuljinRaynor · 04-18-2006, 05:20 PM

Okay, my friend found the link for me so here is your prize.

Sorry about the quality, I used a camera and it came out a bit blurry.

Mods, delete this is if it's a no-no.

SyntaxN · 04-18-2006, 06:48 PM

thx...
So you can see everything, does it look awesome or not?

ZuljinRaynor · 04-18-2006, 06:51 PM

It looks awesome I'd say. C&C Generals looked alright but with better technology and a modded engine, C&C3 is gonna look awesome. I hope they have FMVs only and no in-game cutscenes.

SyntaxN · 04-18-2006, 06:53 PM

What about some infos, are we still going to harvest Tiberium

Did the article mentioned that they´ll have real videos and no ingame crap?

SyntaxN · 04-18-2006, 07:38 PM

Those pics are a little bit better...

Someone change my pants please...

03-26-2006, 05:13 AM	#41
Assault	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... Wow, another exclusive... this exclusive will be a week later on every site if it’s really that big.

03-27-2006, 01:29 PM	#49
Opus131	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... ^ Fair enough, but unless they prove themselves i'm not going to raise my hopes too high with another C&C game...

03-27-2006, 02:55 PM	#52
Beelze	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... I can see where you're coming from. I thought Tiberian Sun was decent, but it should've been more than that. I didn't like certain design decisions, such as having the story told from third-person (meaning that you, as commander, was actually physically present and active in the videos). As for Red Alert 2, I can see it being disliked for its campy tone and the way it ignored the timeline. It basically created its own game universe, weakly linked to the first Red Alert (which was already linked to the first C&C). Personally, I thought the campy tone was entertaining, and I had a lot of fun playing (especially the multiplayer). I've never really played Generals, but I disliked the idea of them adding yet another game universe. To me, this was just an attempt to milk the franchise (kind of too early to do that though, since there was more of the original saga to be told). Plus, there are no videos in-between missions! That should be a trademark of the C&C series. I'm sure the game is decent though. The first C&C, the first Red Alert, and Red Alert 2 are my favorites. Story-wise, the Tiberian saga wins over the spin-off that is Red Alert 2, but I think I enjoyed the gameplay in Red Alert 2 the most.

03-27-2006, 03:39 PM	#53
Tang Lung	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... I loved all the C&C games except for Red Alert 2. I just didn't get it. First C&C is one of my all time fav's though, and my favorite of the RTS games. Generals was really fun, teh battles had alot of impact and multiplayer is still fun to this day (I still play it alot). The exclusive they have is probably a follow up on the Medeval:Total War article. Either that or another Warcraft RTS. __________________ "I'd like to begin by saying **** Lance Armstrong" MOON PRINCESS POWER!

04-18-2006, 02:25 PM	#54
ZuljinRaynor	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... Tiberium Twilight... or as it's now called: Command and Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars. I won't say much about it... but KANE!!! __________________ 100% Pro-Steam.

04-18-2006, 02:45 PM	#55
Kristian Joensen	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... Cool, what do they say about the July issue ? __________________ The Basic Law of the Danish Realm is perphaps one of the most irrelevant constitutional documents in the western world - Kári Á Rógvi, Cand.Jur, LL.M The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

04-18-2006, 02:51 PM	#57
dark_angel	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... ^^^ Come on! more info... __________________ Duke Nukem Forever - Crysis - Castle Wolfenstein - Bioshock - CMR : Dirt www.Duke4.net - The ultimate source for 3DRealms next-gen game - DNF " Life rewards no death for immortals " - dark_angel

04-18-2006, 03:17 PM	#60
Cerberus_e	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... A new Command & Conquer game? Why is it called "3"? I didn't know there was a second.

04-18-2006, 03:22 PM	#62
Kristian Joensen	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... "C&C Tiberian Sun was C&C 2." You are correct. "I hope it´s true." What are you talking about, ZuljinRaynor got the magazine. __________________ The Basic Law of the Danish Realm is perphaps one of the most irrelevant constitutional documents in the western world - Kári Á Rógvi, Cand.Jur, LL.M The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

04-18-2006, 04:04 PM	#65
ZuljinRaynor	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... First of all, I won't scan it for 2 reasons, 1. My computer is dead and it's a pain to get the scanner working on other computers for some reason, 2. I'm not going to scan a magazine. Would a cover suffice? I'll take a photo of it. __________________ 100% Pro-Steam.

04-18-2006, 04:07 PM	#66
Tang Lung	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... We understand if you don't want to scan it, but does it actually have any pics and info in the magazine? Does it look good? __________________ "I'd like to begin by saying **** Lance Armstrong" MOON PRINCESS POWER!

04-18-2006, 04:08 PM	#67
Opus131	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... Ho, so it was another C&C? Call me when the Supreme Commander is out...

04-18-2006, 04:14 PM	#68
ZuljinRaynor	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... Well, they got screenies, think C&C Generals graphics souped up and layered with the Tiberium Universe. They got info, Kane is back, release 2007, Story is more connected to mission, FMVs not filmed yet (that's what they said and if they really are talking about FMVs, w00t FMVs!) and some info like that. I'll be posting the cover shortly once I get rid of my name and address. __________________ 100% Pro-Steam.

04-18-2006, 04:26 PM	#71
Tang Lung	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... badass! If I had a 'games Im looking forward to' list, this would be the only game on there! __________________ "I'd like to begin by saying **** Lance Armstrong" MOON PRINCESS POWER!

04-18-2006, 04:43 PM	#72
SyntaxN	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... /me wants ingame pictures

04-18-2006, 04:57 PM	#74
ZuljinRaynor	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... Argh, grr, gah. If someone can find me the link to someplace that shows me how to spawn a new Shadowmere (Armored) (Elven) in Oblivion, then you'll get your scans. My friend said he saw it on Gamefaqs, but I can't find it. There is your task. __________________ 100% Pro-Steam.

04-18-2006, 05:01 PM	#75
Denz	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... And wtf AOE III expansion! \o/ __________________ *crunchy superman said:* 10 years and two complete restarts - that's either one very effective filter, or a whole lotta shit. :D

04-18-2006, 05:20 PM	#76
ZuljinRaynor	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... Okay, my friend found the link for me so here is your prize. Sorry about the quality, I used a camera and it came out a bit blurry. Mods, delete this is if it's a no-no. __________________ 100% Pro-Steam. Last edited by Joe Siegler; 04-19-2006 at 09:38 AM.

04-18-2006, 06:48 PM	#77
SyntaxN	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... thx... So you can see everything, does it look awesome or not?

04-18-2006, 06:51 PM	#78
ZuljinRaynor	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... It looks awesome I'd say. C&C Generals looked alright but with better technology and a modded engine, C&C3 is gonna look awesome. I hope they have FMVs only and no in-game cutscenes. __________________ 100% Pro-Steam.

04-18-2006, 06:53 PM	#79
SyntaxN	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... What about some infos, are we still going to harvest Tiberium Did the article mentioned that they´ll have real videos and no ingame crap?

04-18-2006, 07:38 PM	#80
SyntaxN	Re: PC Gamer June Issue World Exclusive... Those pics are a little bit better... Someone change my pants please...