self-repairing wall

Shrinker · 08-11-2006, 05:54 PM

I played around a bit with the scripting system for Doom 3/Prey, here's a video of my work in progress...
http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/prey/

PointlesS · 08-11-2006, 07:10 PM

that's pretty freaking sweet

08-11-2006, 07:32 PM

Very nice!!! I imagine some excellent maps could be made with this concept - eg. imagine a floor of these with the rocket launcher in the middle

Look forward to seeing what you do with it

Mr.Sociopath · 08-11-2006, 07:53 PM

wow..very good.. will you make the wall pieces to drop with physics? also correct the fact that a lone square can float in the air?

Interitus · 08-11-2006, 11:09 PM

thats awesome man.... it repairs a little slow, but... damn... awesome man. just awesome.

Shrinker · 08-12-2006, 05:30 AM

Replacing destroyed cells by physics debris or similar is easy. Removing lone squares is a bit too complex for a scripting system without arrays (requires status flags and complex recursion). Things such as repair speed can all be set up: The wait can even be set to zero, meaning that you can not blast through such a wall at all, no matter how much force is used

When it's polished enough, I shall release it with a little tutorial (I made this thing easy to set up), so everyone can use it :P

lauwie0 · 08-12-2006, 05:45 AM

COOOOL

Im thinking secrets here

not to mention what puzzles you can make with this if you combine it with portals

Otto · 08-12-2006, 09:54 AM

Nice video.

rck · 08-13-2006, 03:14 AM

Screw using that for a door, how about an arena that takes place over toxic fluids below that uses this for a floor? And have multiple platforms

Smoke39 · 08-13-2006, 03:51 AM

Cool!

Shrinker · 08-13-2006, 04:42 AM

Google video is weird... first it doesn't let me update the video description, and now it locked a file with the same name as the one I removed. Well, video 2 is up now!
http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/prey/

rck · 08-13-2006, 11:38 AM

Awesomer as a floor!

Ouamdu · 08-13-2006, 04:14 PM

Very good effect !

Interitus · 08-13-2006, 07:04 PM

ha... sweet. What happens if you're in the way? I'm assuming you can set it as "crushable" in the editor like a func_mover?

Kinslayermds · 08-14-2006, 12:13 AM

What is the frame rate hit on that, while it looks cool it also looks like it could kill
an MP map

ToonTank · 08-14-2006, 03:19 AM

Hello!

Grate work on the mod, I watched the vids and it looks to be included in many maps in the future.

Keep it up and I hope to see more from you.

Gryph · 08-14-2006, 11:32 AM

That looks fantastic! Nice work.

Shrinker · 08-14-2006, 12:27 PM

Interitus: I'll have to find out whether I can set it to crush somehow, atm Tommy either gets stuck or is being pushed away.
Kinslayermds: The fps hit is minor. Only when using a bigger wall it's noticeable, and mainly because of the many polygons rendered.

Mr-Ru · 08-15-2006, 07:48 AM

are squares the only shap it can repairing in? would be neat to see it work with triangles or maybe hexigon plates

rck · 08-15-2006, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr-Ru

are squares the only shap it can repairing in? would be neat to see it work with triangles or maybe hexigon plates

My guess is that it would take more complicated math to change it to triangles or hexagons.

Shrinker · 08-15-2006, 05:16 PM

Every cell is indexed and registered... that is quite doable for a triangle too. For the rest, it would simply take a bit longer :P

rck · 08-15-2006, 07:22 PM

In that case, how about a map that has platforms that randomly move about using the 'repair' technique?

username · 08-15-2006, 09:51 PM

How about moving gavitized platforms that players could hang from...dm_batcave.pk4

Mr. Wonko · 08-16-2006, 07:51 AM

man, how does this work? it's awesome!

Shrinker · 08-16-2006, 02:28 PM

You guys can use it in your maps soon.

Shrinker · 08-18-2006, 05:33 PM

A new short video is up, my work of today: the sample map.

PointlesS · 08-18-2006, 09:13 PM

that is awesome...I have an idea to use this...can't wait to play with it

lauwie0 · 08-19-2006, 01:11 AM

Coool, great stufff

especcialy that sqaure (or something, not that good in english)

Micki! · 08-19-2006, 03:39 AM

That's great...
I'm in love with this feature...

Shrinker · 08-19-2006, 08:06 AM

The download is up. Use the power of F5!

lauwie0 · 08-19-2006, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shrinker

The download is up. Use the power of F5!

cool, you made a mod out of it?

Shrinker · 08-19-2006, 12:21 PM

No, I meant you shall press F5 (usually the refresh key) if the site update is not visible for you :P

Rider · 08-19-2006, 12:37 PM

Aha, so how do you 'use' this? You load it with a parameter? Does it have maps included? etc...

Shrinker · 08-19-2006, 01:28 PM

Check out the contents of the pk4, instructions and a sample map are included.

CameO73 · 08-19-2006, 02:12 PM

Cool to try it out myself! The first time I loaded the example map it scared the shit out of me. Was just looking around and suddenly heard the metallic sounds behind me.... from the selfregenerating wall! Very cool.

Oh, for those who just want to sample this:

download the pk4 file from the link at the top of this thread
put it in your Prey\base folder
after loading Prey, get to the console (Ctrl-Alt-~ or just ~ if you set the allowconsole variable)
type map s_regeneratingwallexample
type give all after the map has loaded and have fun!
btw, type ~ to get rid of the console

ampqre · 08-20-2006, 01:04 PM

i download it and it is Brilliant

ChocoHearts · 08-20-2006, 02:07 PM

Beautiful. Haven't got a chance to use it in a map yet, but you can bet I will.

Thanks for sharing this, Shrinker!

Shrinker · 12-20-2006, 04:53 PM

So did anyone use this?

12-21-2006, 08:26 AM

I think i will use it in my Prey singleplayer map.

01-30-2007, 10:58 AM

Just found this Thread while searching for some Prey Modifications and got pretty exited about this regenerating walls and all the stuff that can be done with them.
Could someone maybe awnser some (maybe stupid) questions i got about this stuff? Since iam not used to mapping or modding id engines and cant awnser myself.
- is it possible to create wall parts in any size or shape?
- is it possible to create wall parts with any texture i wish to use, or transparent?
- is it possible to let wall parts explode/create some trash parts or whatever when they get destroyed?
- is it possible to make 3 dimensional, regenerating structures instead of 2 dimensional walls?
- well and the last but for me most important question, is it possible to create such walls in other editors/engines too?

08-11-2006, 07:32 PM	#3
Zarius Guest	Re: self-repairing wall Very nice!!! I imagine some excellent maps could be made with this concept - eg. imagine a floor of these with the rocket launcher in the middle Look forward to seeing what you do with it

12-21-2006, 08:26 AM	#39
Freakman Guest	Re: self-repairing wall I think i will use it in my Prey singleplayer map.

01-30-2007, 10:58 AM	#40
Winrich Guest	Re: self-repairing wall Just found this Thread while searching for some Prey Modifications and got pretty exited about this regenerating walls and all the stuff that can be done with them. Could someone maybe awnser some (maybe stupid) questions i got about this stuff? Since iam not used to mapping or modding id engines and cant awnser myself. - is it possible to create wall parts in any size or shape? - is it possible to create wall parts with any texture i wish to use, or transparent? - is it possible to let wall parts explode/create some trash parts or whatever when they get destroyed? - is it possible to make 3 dimensional, regenerating structures instead of 2 dimensional walls? - well and the last but for me most important question, is it possible to create such walls in other editors/engines too?

08-11-2006, 05:54 PM	#1
Shrinker	self-repairing wall I played around a bit with the scripting system for Doom 3/Prey, here's a video of my work in progress... http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/prey/ __________________ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/prey/ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/Accuracy2/

08-11-2006, 07:10 PM	#2
PointlesS	Re: self-repairing wall that's pretty freaking sweet

08-11-2006, 07:53 PM	#4
Mr.Sociopath	Re: self-repairing wall wow..very good.. will you make the wall pieces to drop with physics? also correct the fact that a lone square can float in the air?

08-11-2006, 11:09 PM	#5
Interitus	Re: self-repairing wall thats awesome man.... it repairs a little slow, but... damn... awesome man. just awesome. __________________ Nahallan.com If you ever think you've hit rock bottom, get the f*** off my shoulders. "Indeed, I am so far OUT of sane that you appear a tiny blip on the distant coast of sanity" - Bucky Katt

08-12-2006, 05:30 AM	#6
Shrinker	Re: self-repairing wall Replacing destroyed cells by physics debris or similar is easy. Removing lone squares is a bit too complex for a scripting system without arrays (requires status flags and complex recursion). Things such as repair speed can all be set up: The wait can even be set to zero, meaning that you can not blast through such a wall at all, no matter how much force is used When it's polished enough, I shall release it with a little tutorial (I made this thing easy to set up), so everyone can use it :P __________________ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/prey/ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/Accuracy2/ Last edited by Shrinker; 08-12-2006 at 05:44 AM.

08-12-2006, 05:45 AM	#7
lauwie0	Re: self-repairing wall COOOOL Im thinking secrets here not to mention what puzzles you can make with this if you combine it with portals __________________ Why spend your time reading useless signatures like this one, you better could use it to explore these forums. But since u are reading this nicely made signature, please think about it that when u finished reading it you may call yourself officialy an "idiot" ;)

08-12-2006, 09:54 AM	#8
Otto	Re: self-repairing wall Nice video.

08-13-2006, 03:14 AM	#9
rck	Re: self-repairing wall Screw using that for a door, how about an arena that takes place over toxic fluids below that uses this for a floor? And have multiple platforms

08-13-2006, 03:51 AM	#10
Smoke39	Re: self-repairing wall Cool!

08-13-2006, 04:42 AM	#11
Shrinker	Re: self-repairing wall Google video is weird... first it doesn't let me update the video description, and now it locked a file with the same name as the one I removed. Well, video 2 is up now! http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/prey/ __________________ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/prey/ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/Accuracy2/

08-13-2006, 11:38 AM	#12
rck	Re: self-repairing wall Awesomer as a floor!

08-13-2006, 04:14 PM	#13
Ouamdu	Re: self-repairing wall Very good effect !

08-13-2006, 07:04 PM	#14
Interitus	Re: self-repairing wall ha... sweet. What happens if you're in the way? I'm assuming you can set it as "crushable" in the editor like a func_mover? __________________ Nahallan.com If you ever think you've hit rock bottom, get the f*** off my shoulders. "Indeed, I am so far OUT of sane that you appear a tiny blip on the distant coast of sanity" - Bucky Katt

08-14-2006, 12:13 AM	#15
Kinslayermds	Re: self-repairing wall What is the frame rate hit on that, while it looks cool it also looks like it could kill an MP map

08-14-2006, 03:19 AM	#16
ToonTank	Re: self-repairing wall Hello! Grate work on the mod, I watched the vids and it looks to be included in many maps in the future. Keep it up and I hope to see more from you. Last edited by ADM; 08-14-2006 at 11:55 AM. Reason: Spam.

08-14-2006, 11:32 AM	#17
Gryph	Re: self-repairing wall That looks fantastic! Nice work. __________________ 1Emulation: The Peoples' Emulation Site I pity the fool! - Mr. T

08-14-2006, 12:27 PM	#18
Shrinker	Re: self-repairing wall Interitus: I'll have to find out whether I can set it to crush somehow, atm Tommy either gets stuck or is being pushed away. Kinslayermds: The fps hit is minor. Only when using a bigger wall it's noticeable, and mainly because of the many polygons rendered. __________________ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/prey/ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/Accuracy2/

08-15-2006, 07:48 AM	#19
Mr-Ru	Re: self-repairing wall are squares the only shap it can repairing in? would be neat to see it work with triangles or maybe hexigon plates

08-15-2006, 05:16 PM	#21
Shrinker	Re: self-repairing wall Every cell is indexed and registered... that is quite doable for a triangle too. For the rest, it would simply take a bit longer :P __________________ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/prey/ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/Accuracy2/

08-15-2006, 07:22 PM	#22
rck	Re: self-repairing wall In that case, how about a map that has platforms that randomly move about using the 'repair' technique?

08-15-2006, 09:51 PM	#23
username	Re: self-repairing wall How about moving gavitized platforms that players could hang from...dm_batcave.pk4 __________________ ]{\|}[ Prey Clan Website >>preyclan.atspace.com RIP

08-16-2006, 07:51 AM	#24
Mr. Wonko	Re: self-repairing wall man, how does this work? it's awesome!

08-16-2006, 02:28 PM	#25
Shrinker	Re: self-repairing wall You guys can use it in your maps soon. __________________ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/prey/ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/Accuracy2/

08-18-2006, 05:33 PM	#26
Shrinker	Re: self-repairing wall A new short video is up, my work of today: the sample map. __________________ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/prey/ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/Accuracy2/

08-18-2006, 09:13 PM	#27
PointlesS	Re: self-repairing wall that is awesome...I have an idea to use this...can't wait to play with it

08-19-2006, 01:11 AM	#28
lauwie0	Re: self-repairing wall Coool, great stufff especcialy that sqaure (or something, not that good in english) __________________ Why spend your time reading useless signatures like this one, you better could use it to explore these forums. But since u are reading this nicely made signature, please think about it that when u finished reading it you may call yourself officialy an "idiot" ;)

08-19-2006, 03:39 AM	#29
Micki!	Re: self-repairing wall That's great... I'm in love with this feature... __________________ Visit: Duke4.net and Aliensgame.net >> 3DRealms, I want the Octa-Avenger to appear in DNF..! Oh look, i am on DeviantArt too ..! --- A true genius does not need boundaries such as 'common sense'

08-19-2006, 08:06 AM	#30
Shrinker	Re: self-repairing wall The download is up. Use the power of F5! __________________ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/prey/ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/Accuracy2/

08-19-2006, 12:21 PM	#32
Shrinker	Re: self-repairing wall No, I meant you shall press F5 (usually the refresh key) if the site update is not visible for you :P __________________ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/prey/ http://www.intercomm.com/shrinker/Accuracy2/

08-19-2006, 12:37 PM	#33
Rider	Re: self-repairing wall Aha, so how do you 'use' this? You load it with a parameter? Does it have maps included? etc... __________________ Duke4.net - Duke's OTHER home. HeadbangersFM - The station that keeps your head banging! ------------- She's pretty, not "damn-she's-making-my-noodle-dance-samba"-pretty, but still very pretty... - Micki!