Eurogamer review Max Payne

Max Payne could almost have been made with the Xbox in mind. A triumph of style over substance with gorgeous graphics shown off to maximum effect thanks to the introduction of Matrix-style bullet time™ sequences, it was a fun but ultimately shallow and at times frustrating action game. The bad news is that the recently released Xbox version of the game is a half-hearted affair, a virtually straight port which fails to correct any of Max's shortcomings while adding a couple of new problems all of its own.

Source: Eurogamer Max Payne X-Box Review

Ouch. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[Joe Siegler]

Not everyone's perceived "shortcomings" are actually shortcomings.

[FullMetalJacket]

Aren't we a little LATE for reviews?? The game came out in July for crying out loud!

not to mention that the xbox just went on sale last week in europe

[MuffinMan]

If you read through some of the reviews on that site, you'll notice that they are somewhat "Anti-XBox". Yea, I know that's an easy accusation to throw around, but take a look at the Five X-Box reviews and then compare the scores/comments with some of the decidedly mediocre PS2 titles they have given high scores to and you'll see what I mean. Hell, they even game the greatly inferior (sorry Remedy [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] ) PS2 version of Max Payne a higher score than that for the XBox [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

[FullMetalJacket]

Hey ford_prefect, how come you have an avatar???

And they should only review PC versions of games because consoles are for chumps and suck anyway.

Originally posted by FullMetalJacket:
Aren't we a little LATE for reviews?? The game came out in July for crying out loud!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It's a review of the X-Box version.

[Kev_Boy]

Euh .. EuroGamer gave bad reviews for Maxpayne(PC) too , they just hate cool HKBO games/movies..well every1 has there , na .. every1 knows there dumb [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[biXen]

Can't quite understand how they figure there's a lot of shortcomings. I haven't played the X-box version but they state that the PC version has some too... whatever, Eurogamer is a weird site...

[MikaRMD]

Considering Eurogamer's very critical reviews (not saying that they are in any way wrong or bad, just their critical opinions), it is almost funny that in Eurogamer's readers' awards for the best games in 2001 Max Payne won 2 of the 3 categories it was nominated: Best Character and Cinematography... [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

[fractalgp]

Originally posted by MuffinMan:
If you read through some of the reviews on that site, you'll notice that they are somewhat "Anti-XBox". Yea, I know that's an easy accusation to throw around,

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'll admit that I haven't read all their Xbox reviews, but those I've read had games rated 80, 80 and 100 percent. Can't say that makes for an anti-xbox site.

I like Eurogamer. I like their style. Reviews are subjective anyway. The Max Payne PC review was a complete pile of shit though, and here I'm more referring to the way it was written rather than the critisisms. Gestalt has improved since then [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

[ 04-02-2002, 01:49 PM: Message edited by: fractalgp ]

[revenant100]

They have the PS2 Max Payne 7/10 and the Xbox Max Payne 6/10? That's just wrong. Look at some of the comments under the Xbox Max Payne review, most of them are clearly anti-Xbox.

[fractalgp]

Originally posted by revenant100:
They have the PS2 Max Payne 7/10 and the Xbox Max Payne 6/10? That's just wrong.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Different reviewers, different score. Subjective. Anyway, one should read reviews, not just look at the score.

Look at some of the comments under the Xbox Max Payne review, most of them are clearly anti-Xbox.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">How can readers' opinions make a site anti-xbox?

Considering Eurogamer's very critical reviews (not saying that they are in any way wrong or bad, just their critical opinions)

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That saves a world of pain. Responding in such a mature fashion to sharp criticism is infinitely more preferable to cornering the immature defensive whiner market.

it is almost funny that in Eurogamer's readers' awards for the best games in 2001 Max Payne won 2 of the 3 categories it was nominated: Best Character and Cinematography...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">There is nothing inconsistent or funny about it. A game could have the best character and cinematography, and still not be the best game.

[biXen]

Originally posted by Max Diablos:

There is nothing inconsistent or funny about it. A game could have the best character and cinematography, and still not be the best game.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Considering Remedy has been very consistent, and almost all aspects of the game is top notch, it IS a bit funny that they aknowledge some parts, but considers it overall a bad game...

[MikaRMD]

Originally posted by Max Diablos:

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">it is almost funny that in Eurogamer's readers' awards for the best games in 2001 Max Payne won 2 of the 3 categories it was nominated: Best Character and Cinematography...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">There is nothing inconsistent or funny about it. A game could have the best character and cinematography, and still not be the best game.[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I did say ALMOST funny... [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
I totally agree with you. A game can certainly have the best character and cinematography and not be the best game.
I thought it was almost funny that the READERS of Eurogamer thought Max was good at least in those categories, whereas Eurogamer's reviewer clearly did not appreciate those too much.

[Co11]

we can all agree that MP is the best out there though... [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] the REAL fans.... hehe

It would be nice to hear what the shortcomings are. Most of the critism I've read are the same ones I've read on this board, and it was basicly stuff the game didn't have by design. It isn't a typical adventure game, not Multiplayer, and very linear. Sorry folks, but it was intended to be a single person game. Other complaints, its too short. The couldn't play it for 8 hours straight without beating it. Hopefully, most people have a life and can't play a game that long. I loved the game and hope Max 2 doesn't have multiplayer too.

[Rama]

Originally posted by MikaRMD:
Considering Eurogamer's very critical reviews (not saying that they are in any way wrong or bad, just their critical opinions), it is almost funny that in Eurogamer's readers' awards for the best games in 2001 Max Payne won 2 of the 3 categories it was nominated: Best Character and Cinematography... [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Whebn you have a guy like Owl doing Cinematics what do you expect.
He should get the oscar for best cinematography [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]