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Old 04-22-2009, 04:01 PM   #1
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Old manuals
I finally finished scanning our old print manuals into pdf form. You can check 'em out here:

http://www.3drealms.com/tech/manuals

I forgot to do Duke Nukem 3D, I'll have to get that online later.
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:01 PM   #2
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Sweet.

Where's the Duke3D one? (or was there even a printed manual, I can't remember...)
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:13 PM   #3
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Uh, did you miss me saying I forgot to do it?

I'm actually going to have to do that three times. The 1.3d manual, the PPack manual, and the Atomic Edition all have different manuals. The problem is finding a good version of the Atomic Edition manual we don't mind destroying, we don't have many copies of that left.
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Old 04-22-2009, 05:08 PM   #4
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Really sweet, thank Joe

Brings back memories.
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Old 04-22-2009, 05:21 PM   #5
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Uh, did you miss me saying I forgot to do it?

I'm actually going to have to do that three times. The 1.3d manual, the PPack manual, and the Atomic Edition all have different manuals. The problem is finding a good version of the Atomic Edition manual we don't mind destroying, we don't have many copies of that left.
Must've missed that
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Old 04-22-2009, 08:13 PM   #6
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It's cool seeing some of these again, my parents never beleived in keeping manuals, or any of the packaging either for that matter - so the manuals for all my apogee/3d realms games are long since lost (except my duke 3d 1.3 one and some of my games console games)
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:17 PM   #7
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All three versions of the Duke Nukem 3D manual are up there.

1.3d, PPack, & Atomic Edition.
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Old 04-23-2009, 02:18 PM   #8
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Oh damn...I remember bringing the V1.3d manual to my class when I was in 3rd grade and id try to draw the duke pic on the front .
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Old 04-25-2009, 04:05 AM   #9
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I see in the boppin manual there are pics (cartoonish ones) of the apogge tec suport who represents you in the pic Joe?

---------- Post added at 05:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:34 AM ----------

hey I can get a new cd of rott for 10$ by sending in the upgrade form but ..... I think thats the full price now anyway
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Old 04-25-2009, 04:10 AM   #10
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Awesome! My Atomic Edition didn't come with a manual. Neither did my Shadow Warrior. Now I have them!!! Thanks Joe!
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Old 04-25-2009, 06:12 AM   #11
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Shadow Warrior has *NEVER* been sold without a manual. No idea where you would have gotten that.

We have sold a version fo this manual on the DUke3D CD for years, but the quality was crap, since the disc was last mastered years ago, it needed an upgrade.

Regarding Boppin.. hahahahahahaha

Re: ROTT CD. We haven't sold it as a CD in years. Download only.
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:15 AM   #12
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Shadow Warrior has *NEVER* been sold without a manual. No idea where you would have gotten that.

We have sold a version fo this manual on the DUke3D CD for years, but the quality was crap, since the disc was last mastered years ago, it needed an upgrade.

Regarding Boppin.. hahahahahahaha

Re: ROTT CD. We haven't sold it as a CD in years. Download only.
Atomic I bought used (already had 3D and Plutonium pack, only got it cause I couldn't get Plutonium pack to work in xp). Shadow warrior I got from y'all and I didn't realize the manual was the CD case cover My mistake.
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Old 04-25-2009, 09:29 AM   #13
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Shadow Warrior has *NEVER* been sold without

Regarding Boppin.. hahahahahahaha

Re: ROTT CD. We haven't sold it as a CD in years. Download only.
ya I missed out on the site licence cd that you sold for a bit when you ran out also I seem to remember somtimes seeing a warning when I did multiplayer with friends saying somthing about how the copys hasd the same hash it said somthign to the efect of "you arent using one copy on difrent computers are you" during the game loading menu you dont happen to remember if you had any copy protection like that do you? (btw it wouldint stop you from playing) (sorry for being off topic)
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Old 04-28-2009, 04:09 AM   #14
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The Stargunner freeware release also included a scanned manual, but it missed some pages about warranty, technical assistance and online information. And now I can see what I've missed: not much, except for a screenshot of the Apogee website from 1996 and a live shot camera picture.

The early Apogee games used to come with a hint sheet. In the Kroz source code release, there's a hint sheet for Return to Kroz in Word Perfect 5 format. I can open it with Microsoft Office Word 2003, but the page layout is a bit off. I guess I have to search for my Word Perfect 5.1 disks to see what it really should look like.
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:36 AM   #15
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The early Apogee games used to come with a hint sheet.
I found our archive of hint sheets. That's next up, I'll be scanning those.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:14 PM   #16
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Thanks for sharing, Joe. The ROTT download from your Yahoo store doesn't come with a manual (why?) so I'm glad to finally 'have' it.
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Old 05-06-2009, 01:05 PM   #17
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I just added the manuals to my dbgl profiles for the games. and printed them up in to a binder for hard copys.
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Old 05-09-2009, 02:43 PM   #18
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Is there any prohibition on external hosting of these PDFs? I'd love to host copies on Classic DOS Games, and to ensure that they always have a home on the web regardless of what the future holds, but I don't want to get into any copyright trouble.
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Old 05-09-2009, 03:00 PM   #19
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Is there any prohibition on external hosting of these PDFs? I'd love to host copies on Classic DOS Games, and to ensure that they always have a home on the web regardless of what the future holds, but I don't want to get into any copyright trouble.
Nope, go ahead. I don't care.
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Old 05-09-2009, 03:12 PM   #20
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Nice 1 for this Joe
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Old 05-09-2009, 03:33 PM   #21
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Nope, go ahead. I don't care.
Are these being released under an open document licence. If so they could be added to Wiki. I guess George would have to ok that.
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Old 05-09-2009, 10:09 PM   #22
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George is probably not likely to care. But I can't truly answer for him.
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Old 05-10-2009, 03:21 AM   #23
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George is probably not likely to care. But I can't truly answer for him.
Yer, but Wiki would pull then down unless they have a GFDL

"Content that violates any copyright will be deleted. Encyclopedic content must be verifiable. You irrevocably agree to release your contributions under the GFDL"

Would be nice to have the manuals on each of the games wiki pages. Although I'm not even sure if you can attach a PDF to a wiki page...

Thanks for putting them up anyway.
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Old 05-10-2009, 07:00 AM   #24
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What if I put a license.txt in the same directory stating something like we are releasing them for free, but the copyright is still to Apogee Software, Ltd?
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Old 05-10-2009, 02:21 PM   #25
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What if I put a license.txt in the same directory stating something like we are releasing them for free, but the copyright is still to Apogee Software, Ltd?
Sounds like a good plan to me.
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Old 05-10-2009, 03:16 PM   #26
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What if I put a license.txt in the same directory stating something like we are releasing them for free, but the copyright is still to Apogee Software, Ltd?
I agree that sounds like a great plan : ).
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Old 05-10-2009, 04:19 PM   #27
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I'm sure that will work
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Old 05-10-2009, 06:14 PM   #28
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These appear on the CD's that you get with the games, the DN:MP one looks different from the one I have.

Yes it looks like they have been the original scan copy, great.
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Old 05-11-2009, 02:14 PM   #29
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Re: ROTT CD. We haven't sold it as a CD in years. Download only.
There are still loads of shareware CDs going around I guess. And some full game CDs as well.

Actually I found a cd in a couple of old boxes in the storage room of a local game store here a couple of months ago. Some funny pictures by the way in the GOODIES/PICTURES directory, specifically OSCURO1.GIF deserves to be mentioned (though I do question the mental sanity of the person who used a digital camera for that type of thing back in 1994).
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Old 05-12-2009, 01:46 AM   #30
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Nice stuff, thanks Joe!
Monster Bash didn't have a manual?
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Old 05-12-2009, 08:07 AM   #31
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Thanks for making these available.

A lot of the apogee stuff,i would of never seen otherwise.
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Old 05-12-2009, 02:36 PM   #32
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sweet!
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Old 05-12-2009, 07:00 PM   #33
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Nice stuff, thanks Joe!
Monster Bash didn't have a manual?
No. Monster Bash was before print manuals.
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Old 05-19-2009, 01:53 PM   #34
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These are awesome. I've been looking for a good scan of the Spear of Destiny manual for years among a couple others, so this is great! Thanks, Joe!

Can't wait to see the hint sheets, either.
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Old 05-20-2009, 07:08 PM   #35
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These are awesome. I've been looking for a good scan of the Spear of Destiny manual for years among a couple others, so this is great! Thanks, Joe!

Can't wait to see the hint sheets, either.
http://www.3drealms.com/tech/hintsheets
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Old 05-20-2009, 10:02 PM   #36
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Wow! Just snagged them all, thank you so much!
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Old 05-21-2009, 03:34 PM   #37
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it is finally great to have all of these files it completes the games that i have to have the old manual pages.

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Old 05-21-2009, 04:56 PM   #38
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I was surprised that the Goodbye Galaxy manual didn't go up (you can check out most of it here: http://cc314.classicgaming.gamespy.c...en4/index.html) I suppose this was only part of the retail package then?
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Old 05-22-2009, 03:21 AM   #39
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^ Probably, but wasn't that sold by GT (Good Times) Software? I'm pretty sure it wasn't Apogee. I don't think Apogee went retail until Blake Stone: Planet Strike, right? Or I might just be talking out of my ass.
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Old 05-22-2009, 07:47 AM   #40
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^ Probably, but wasn't that sold by GT (Good Times) Software? I'm pretty sure it wasn't Apogee. I don't think Apogee went retail until Blake Stone: Planet Strike, right? Or I might just be talking out of my ass.
First retail Apogee game was Planet Strike. We never sold that Galaxy manual, although I find it amusing the PO Box on there is ours.
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