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Old 07-25-2013, 02:31 AM   #84

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Re: Superman: Man of Steel
Originally Posted by hellchicken View Post
Here's an interesting question: who do you think will get more screen-time in this project? Superman or Batman?

Considering that, on average, Batman, in his full costume and doing Batmansy-superheroey-stuff, hasn't been featured that much on screen in each of the Nolan's Knights while the opposite is true of Man of Steel, I would find it highly ironic if Batman was then to dominate the screen in the MoS sequel.

And don't think the bean-counters at WB/DC wouldn't consider this. You know they would.
I believe they'll get equal treatment. Makes sense in a way as those characters learn from one another. And Batman's limited screen time in the Nolan films is an interesting point of comparison. Zack Snyder's unrestrained approach to action (and using that particular quote in their announcement) makes me think we'll be seeing a lot more of Batman here.

Originally Posted by Thief View Post
The main thing now is who will play Bruce Wayne/Batman. I've read in the past that Bale has said he won't be reprising the role, so does that mean Joseph Gordon-Levitt... someone else?
Someone else. I hope this has nothing to do with Nolan's trilogy. That story is all wrapped up.

Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal View Post
Personally... I'm against bringing Batman into the second Superman film.

I know DC is desperate to start their "expanded universe" like what Marvel is doing. But I feel Superman still needs more time to properly develop. I love Man of Steel, but... there's still a TON of stuff to be dealt with and really fleshed out.

Bringing in another DC hero, and specially one so huge as Batman... so quickly... seems way too fast.
Agreed. My preferred approach would have a Superman trilogy separate from a World's Finest trilogy (with Batman and Superman) which in turn would be separate from a Justice League trilogy. Nine movies (or more if the new Batman, Flash, etc. all get their own movies going) encompassing all of the DC Universe. But so far they're trying to go big, making each movie an event rather than a small piece in a larger plan. Riskier strategy than Marvel's.

And personally, this is why I'm not a fan of the whole "Justice League"... and why I didn't like The Avengers.
I loved Nolan's Batman because it grounded the character in reality. While it had it's moments of sc-fi fantasy, it still kept it focused in more of a "real world" Batman.
The Justice League... is a collection of (mostly) aliens with a human in a black costume with a utility belt.

It's the same with The Avengers. I loved the first Iron Man. Because, while the tech was fantastical the reality, it still felt grounded in a "realisticish" world. And, The Avengers took away from that... something I felt the first film really nailed in, by bringing in ancient gods, aliens and super soldiers.

So, yeah, I like my "superheroes" to be more real than fantasy. The only ones outside of Batman and Ironman I actually like are Wolverine, Deadpool and Spider-Man. And those ones are the only ones that I feel "work" with their super-human abilities.
I didn't like The Amazing Spider-Man because it got too fantastic. The science didn't gel with me. Raimi's films somehow managed to tone that down by keeping the focus on the character.

The Avengers had appeal because the Gods, super soldiers and rage monsters were established in previous films and brought those character arcs with them. The movie didn't burden itself by giving the explanations of their respective powers too much weight. Instead it put the focus on the friction between those various personalities and how they come together as a team. If you want that friends with friction dynamic in the DCverse, you don't have to look far from Batman/Superman.

Batman has a strong place as the brains/tactician in the Justice League. In comparison, Bale's Batman was limited to Nolan's realism. Exaggerating Batman from that baseline would at most bring him to a Tony Stark level, who could stand toe to toe with a God, so it's not too much of a stretch.
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