The Weapon Thread - Page 3

NutWrench · 09-02-2006, 11:24 AM

I'm glad the Ripper is back. There's something really satisfying about unloading a ton of hot lead on an enemy.

KaiserSoze · 09-02-2006, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by George Broussard

*Poof*, done.

This is easy.

Unloading buckshot on a pigcop's ass=win.

Micki! · 09-02-2006, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KaiserSoze

Unloading buckshot on a pigcop's ass=win.

Pigcop getting shot in the ass, reminded me of something...

http://www.duke4.net/images/fanart/micki/7.png
Ironicly, a clean shot will result in a very dirty shot...

I hate all of this · 09-02-2006, 01:42 PM

i remember of this your draw, micki. very good. KKKKKKKK
your art style is so good.

Micki! · 09-02-2006, 01:44 PM

Thanks...

Though, that one is actually one of the lesser detailed ones...

Hyperactive Slob · 09-02-2006, 03:04 PM

Yay, DNF info

!

Mongorian · 09-02-2006, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by George Broussard

Yet, if they [machine gun, shotgun, rocket launcher] weren't there, people would complain about that, too

I full heartedly agree with that. I was just joshin' you a bit about, well, you know, the same thing people have been joshing you about for maybe seven years.

Despite what I said, it's nice to hear that those weapons are in, mainly because the Duke 3d shotgun is my favorite shotgun of all time. The grip, oh baby.

colmtourque · 09-02-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by George Broussard

Yet, if they weren't there, people would complain about that, too

Great, now the troll wasted George's 3rd answer!!!

Awesome news georgiporgy!!!
Chaingun was awesome.

So shotgun, double barrel, please say double barrell (and one kill headshots on weaker monsters is always awesome).

colmtourque · 09-02-2006, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Micki!

I remember he said, that rifles won't be in, because Duke doesn't Snipe...
Don't remember anything about assaultrifle though...

Why are some people so opposed to the sniper rifle, always a fun gun, and doesn't seem to out of character. In a properly designed game they don't hurt game balance, and... I'm not getting into the whole multiplayer thing, if you can't play vs a sniper get out of the match

Phayzon · 09-02-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NutWrench

I'm glad the Ripper is back. There's something really satisfying about unloading a ton of hot lead on an enemy.

Ive wasted all 200 on a Liztroop (The guy with the lazer, not the chaingunner, I get them confused, which is which..?)...

Echo Black · 09-02-2006, 09:33 PM

Maybe a hi-tech "sniping" gun like Shadow Warrior's Railgun? Or an alien raygun, I don't know. I just want the main pistol to be accurate, that's all I ever ask of my shooters as soon as I start playing them. The Duke 3D one wasn't very accurate. Then again, I play with autoaim off. Let's hope Duke's new Desert Eagle is a little more precise.

Stormfox · 09-02-2006, 11:40 PM

I think a sniper rifle is fine for Duke so long as it isn't silenced.

Kalki · 09-03-2006, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Stormfox

I think a sniper rifle is fine for Duke so long as it isn't silenced.

Or hitscan. The 2001 video SR or the one Jedi Knight 2 or Quake 3's laser railgun is a good idea to start with. Not that I didn't enjoy UT's which was my fave.

Stormfox · 09-03-2006, 12:28 AM

Remember the sniper rifle in SiN where you had to wait AGES for it to fold out like some strange Bond gadget? I never want to see that again. Duke's sniper rifle would be some high calibre monster usually used to take down elephants or something. It would let out a mighty BANG! as it goes off, sending birds flying from the trees and alien scum ducking for cover.

Mongorian · 09-03-2006, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by colmtourque

Great, now the troll wasted George's 3rd answer!!!

You must be very superstitious.

Beelze · 09-03-2006, 01:32 PM

That's all fine and dandy, George, but is the Fan Gun in yet?

nels · 09-05-2006, 01:16 AM

Im glad all the old traditional weapons are in... nothing worse than an FPS trying to make up all sorts of stupid weapons.. though what 3DR done in Duke3D like shrinkray and the freezing one was awesome.. perfect... is there still more cool weapons to design that work so well?

hell-angel · 09-05-2006, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by nels

Im glad all the old traditional weapons are in... nothing worse than an FPS trying to make up all sorts of stupid weapons.. though what 3DR done in Duke3D like shrinkray and the freezing one was awesome.. perfect... is there still more cool weapons to design that work so well?

So they are not allowed to make up weapons, but the shrinkray and they freezer are allowed??

A bit contradictory isn't it.

But I agree that it's good that the old weapons are in

Malgon · 09-05-2006, 05:30 AM

So pipe-bombs and the chaingun cannon are the only two confirmed weapons (from DN3D) that are in?

Stormfox · 09-05-2006, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Malgon

So pipe-bombs and the chaingun cannon are the only two confirmed weapons (from DN3D) that are in?

Also the shotgun.

Malgon · 09-05-2006, 05:50 AM

Well, let's hope he wasn't making a joke about it, since the shotgun looked pretty awesome in the 2001 version.

brabee · 09-05-2006, 06:35 AM

George, will the shotgun return with the radioactive logo on it's side? Just like in DN3D. That would be cool IMO.

Mr.Sociopath · 09-05-2006, 06:57 AM

does that mean the shotgun fires radioactive shots?

Kristian Joensen · 09-05-2006, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Malgon

So pipe-bombs and the chaingun cannon are the only two confirmed weapons (from DN3D) that are in?

As someone else mentioned there is a also the shotgun. In addition to that there is the shrinker, freezer and laser trip bombs, they are all also confirmed.

Denz · 09-05-2006, 09:16 AM

They got everything right in their first 3D DN3D game. So i think they won't screw their Second version on the weapons.

ultra tree 85! · 09-05-2006, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

and laser trip bombs, they are all also confirmed.

The laser trip bombs were re-confirmed after the 2002/2003 restart? cool.

I didn't know that.

I wonder if the chaingun cannon will use the small screen on it to show its ammo number or something this time?

Reaper · 09-06-2006, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ReadOnly

- Will the Chainsaw from the Evil Dead movie still be in?
- No. We took that out ages ago. When we basically re-started we decided not to bring that back. (q) GB

Old news. I pester George just because he has axed things I might have enjoyed.

09-07-2006, 02:12 PM

I wanna see a mini gun in the the game, 5.56 or 7.62 perhaps?.

This is the shotgun I think belongs in dukes hands, I'v used one before and they are nothin short of the most fun firearms I'v ever used.

http://serbu.com/shorty.htm

hell-angel · 09-08-2006, 05:58 AM

Nah, Duke uses big guns, the bigger the better. That shotgun of you is probably the size of dukes main handgun

PsychoGoatee · 09-09-2006, 03:56 AM

I've been on here for many years, like many of the chosen hardcore. I remember when 3DR was involved in some chat-room where they would answer questions from the fans. I asked if Duke would rock akimbo guns, John Woo style, and they said he wouldn't. Wasn't Duke's style.

Well, its been at least a few years since then, just thought I'd say it again. Duke rocks akimbo guns on the cover art of Duke 3D, yeah baby. 3DR, you know you guys have come around to the akimbo guns idea by now.

Dual fisted, guns blazing action. You know you want it.

Tang Lung · 09-09-2006, 04:01 AM

It would be really cool, as long as it was twin Desert Eagles or twin Magnums or something like that (no tiny pea shooters), but I wouldnt be majorly dissapointed if they were ommited. The most important thing for me would be decent, movie like muzzle flashes and loud, hard hitting sounds.

And please, 3DR, please don't make the view move to simulate recoil (as in, when you shoot an assualt rifle, the actual view camera shakes all over the place), there's nothing more annoying!

09-09-2006, 04:42 AM

Well, it is supposed to be realistic and from Duke's Eyes... so I suppose to make it a more realistic experience... you should have a little bit of that... nothing mad like some other games out there... just make it as visually realistic...

I say just have it shake the tiniest bit, but as long as it doesn't screw with your aim...

PsychoGoatee · 09-09-2006, 05:13 AM

Personally, I like the system where your crosshair gets wider to show the lesser accuracy from weapons with lots of kick. And I like all the shaking to stay on the gun animation, not your screen literally shaking.

Of course, more importantly, Duke rocking two pistols at the same time... thats what we need.

avatar_58 · 09-09-2006, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tang Lung

And please, 3DR, please don't make the view move to simulate recoil (as in, when you shoot an assualt rifle, the actual view camera shakes all over the place), there's nothing more annoying!

George has stated many times DNF has full body awareness, therefore I assume all the bobbing and recoil stuff is in as it would look silly without it. FBA usually equates to having your view react as your model does in 3rd person.

PsychoGoatee · 09-09-2006, 05:25 AM

Well yeah, screen movement is always needed, or you feel like you're on rails. But, having your screen shake all over the place because you're shooting at somebody? Can be annoying if overdone.

More importantly, I'd like to see Duke make like Chow Yun Fat, as Max Payne would say. I mean, sure, a big Desert Eagle is more Duke's style... but why not two for special occasions? Am I right?

Trambuan · 09-09-2006, 07:28 AM

The Ripper Chaingun Cannon should be a real life weapon, It would be a substitute for a Hand Held Minigun, It would be lighter in weight and less bulky too. It seems to be based on the late 19th Century 'Nordenfelt Gun' which was a Gatling Gun rival

It was even being discussed here:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread221469/pg1

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...p/t-88791.html

http://www.securityarms.com/forums/showthread.php?t=568

Handheld Nordenfelt Guns?

corn wizard · 09-09-2006, 07:57 AM

http://www.parabellumthegame.com/

check out the nuke at the end- this is the unreal3 engine - kinda looks like I expect DNF will -it has akimbo too

Tim. Just Tim. · 09-09-2006, 08:50 AM

Akimbo guns are cool in the games that have it. However I can understand keeping it out of DNF.
For one thing, D3D didnt have it, so thats one good reason.
Besides, it just wouldnt feel right. I cant quite put my finger on why... I mean Duke is all about guns, the more the marrier. So why not akimbo? Just doesnt seem Dukelike somehow.
Come to think of it, every gun besides the pistol takes 2 hands anyway!
That being said, I guess I wouldnt have a problem with akimbo pistols.
If they do chose to put akimbo pistols in, then I hope it works like this:

2 Hands, 1 pistol: Really accurate shooting & very little recoil
2 Hands, 2 pistols: Not so accurate shooting, but faster, and with twice the bullet capacity obviously.

In other words, make it a tradeoff between speed, bullet number and accuracy. So 2 pistols arnt necessarily better than one. Its just a matter of taste. Personally I would probably prefer 1 pistol for accuracy.

And please god keep anything remotely related to 'Jon Woo' style (whatever the hell that means) out of the game!

Joe Siegler · 09-09-2006, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by PsychoGoatee

I've been on here for many years, like many of the chosen hardcore. I remember when 3DR was involved in some chat-room where they would answer questions from the fans. I asked if Duke would rock akimbo guns, John Woo style, and they said he wouldn't. Wasn't Duke's style.

Well, its been at least a few years since then, just thought I'd say it again. Duke rocks akimbo guns on the cover art of Duke 3D, yeah baby. 3DR, you know you guys have come around to the akimbo guns idea by now.

Dual fisted, guns blazing action. You know you want it.

I believe George's last statement on the matter stands. Cover art is and advertising images are a lot different than actual game play.

Kalki · 09-09-2006, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

George's last statement

"We're not doing akimbo weapons. With some new tech we have in, we could, but we're not doing it. Simple design decision."

09-07-2006, 02:12 PM	#108
TristanYockell Guest	Re: Chaingun cannon I wanna see a mini gun in the the game, 5.56 or 7.62 perhaps?. This is the shotgun I think belongs in dukes hands, I'v used one before and they are nothin short of the most fun firearms I'v ever used. http://serbu.com/shorty.htm

09-09-2006, 04:42 AM	#112
Piano Man Guest	Re: DNF, John Woo style... Well, it is supposed to be realistic and from Duke's Eyes... so I suppose to make it a more realistic experience... you should have a little bit of that... nothing mad like some other games out there... just make it as visually realistic... I say just have it shake the tiniest bit, but as long as it doesn't screw with your aim... Last edited by Piano Man; 09-09-2006 at 04:43 AM. Reason: I felt like it....

09-02-2006, 11:24 AM	#81
NutWrench	Re: Chaingun cannon I'm glad the Ripper is back. There's something really satisfying about unloading a ton of hot lead on an enemy. __________________ "If by chance some day you're not feeling well and you should remember some silly thing I've said or done and it brings back a smile to your face or a chuckle to your heart, then my purpose as your clown has been fulfilled."

09-02-2006, 01:42 PM	#84
I hate all of this	Re: Chaingun cannon i remember of this your draw, micki. very good. KKKKKKKK your art style is so good.

09-02-2006, 01:44 PM	#85
Micki!	Re: Chaingun cannon Thanks... Though, that one is actually one of the lesser detailed ones... __________________ A true genius does not need boundaries such as 'common sense'

09-02-2006, 03:04 PM	#86
Hyperactive Slob	Re: Chaingun cannon Yay, DNF info! __________________ Oh no! what will PC gamers do without generic shooters based in a wartorn future while you mindlessly shoot things with a big giant gun!- Tang Lung

09-02-2006, 09:33 PM	#91
Echo Black	Re: Chaingun cannon Maybe a hi-tech "sniping" gun like Shadow Warrior's Railgun? Or an alien raygun, I don't know. I just want the main pistol to be accurate, that's all I ever ask of my shooters as soon as I start playing them. The Duke 3D one wasn't very accurate. Then again, I play with autoaim off. Let's hope Duke's new Desert Eagle is a little more precise. __________________ “Having a reasonable grounding in statistics and probability and no belief in luck, fate, karma, or God(s), the only casino game that interests me is blackjack. Playing blackjack properly is a test of personal discipline." - John Carmack

09-02-2006, 11:40 PM	#92
Stormfox	Re: Chaingun cannon I think a sniper rifle is fine for Duke so long as it isn't silenced.

09-03-2006, 12:28 AM	#94
Stormfox	Re: Chaingun cannon Remember the sniper rifle in SiN where you had to wait AGES for it to fold out like some strange Bond gadget? I never want to see that again. Duke's sniper rifle would be some high calibre monster usually used to take down elephants or something. It would let out a mighty BANG! as it goes off, sending birds flying from the trees and alien scum ducking for cover.

09-03-2006, 01:32 PM	#96
Beelze	Re: Chaingun cannon That's all fine and dandy, George, but is the Fan Gun in yet?

09-05-2006, 01:16 AM	#97
nels	Re: Chaingun cannon Im glad all the old traditional weapons are in... nothing worse than an FPS trying to make up all sorts of stupid weapons.. though what 3DR done in Duke3D like shrinkray and the freezing one was awesome.. perfect... is there still more cool weapons to design that work so well?

09-05-2006, 05:30 AM	#99
Malgon	Re: Chaingun cannon So pipe-bombs and the chaingun cannon are the only two confirmed weapons (from DN3D) that are in? __________________ -Most wanted games: Doom 4, Tomb Raider, Beyond Good and Evil 2

09-05-2006, 05:50 AM	#101
Malgon	Re: Chaingun cannon Well, let's hope he wasn't making a joke about it, since the shotgun looked pretty awesome in the 2001 version. __________________ -Most wanted games: Doom 4, Tomb Raider, Beyond Good and Evil 2

09-05-2006, 06:35 AM	#102
brabee	Re: Chaingun cannon George, will the shotgun return with the radioactive logo on it's side? Just like in DN3D. That would be cool IMO.

09-05-2006, 06:57 AM	#103
Mr.Sociopath	Re: Chaingun cannon does that mean the shotgun fires radioactive shots?

09-05-2006, 09:16 AM	#105
Denz	Re: Chaingun cannon They got everything right in their first 3D DN3D game. So i think they won't screw their Second version on the weapons. __________________ *crunchy superman said:* 10 years and two complete restarts - that's either one very effective filter, or a whole lotta shit. :D

09-08-2006, 05:58 AM	#109
hell-angel	Re: Chaingun cannon Nah, Duke uses big guns, the bigger the better. That shotgun of you is probably the size of dukes main handgun

09-09-2006, 03:56 AM	#110
PsychoGoatee	Weapon Thread I've been on here for many years, like many of the chosen hardcore. I remember when 3DR was involved in some chat-room where they would answer questions from the fans. I asked if Duke would rock akimbo guns, John Woo style, and they said he wouldn't. Wasn't Duke's style. Well, its been at least a few years since then, just thought I'd say it again. Duke rocks akimbo guns on the cover art of Duke 3D, yeah baby. 3DR, you know you guys have come around to the akimbo guns idea by now. Dual fisted, guns blazing action. You know you want it. __________________ Always bet on Duke. Last edited by Joe Siegler; 09-18-2006 at 10:37 AM.

09-09-2006, 04:01 AM	#111
Tang Lung	Re: DNF, John Woo style... It would be really cool, as long as it was twin Desert Eagles or twin Magnums or something like that (no tiny pea shooters), but I wouldnt be majorly dissapointed if they were ommited. The most important thing for me would be decent, movie like muzzle flashes and loud, hard hitting sounds. And please, 3DR, please don't make the view move to simulate recoil (as in, when you shoot an assualt rifle, the actual view camera shakes all over the place), there's nothing more annoying! __________________ "I'd like to begin by saying **** Lance Armstrong" MOON PRINCESS POWER!

09-09-2006, 05:13 AM	#113
PsychoGoatee	Re: DNF, John Woo style... Personally, I like the system where your crosshair gets wider to show the lesser accuracy from weapons with lots of kick. And I like all the shaking to stay on the gun animation, not your screen literally shaking. Of course, more importantly, Duke rocking two pistols at the same time... thats what we need. __________________ Always bet on Duke.

09-09-2006, 05:25 AM	#115
PsychoGoatee	Re: DNF, John Woo style... Well yeah, screen movement is always needed, or you feel like you're on rails. But, having your screen shake all over the place because you're shooting at somebody? Can be annoying if overdone. More importantly, I'd like to see Duke make like Chow Yun Fat, as Max Payne would say. I mean, sure, a big Desert Eagle is more Duke's style... but why not two for special occasions? Am I right? __________________ Always bet on Duke.

09-09-2006, 07:28 AM	#116
Trambuan	Re: Ripper Chaingun cannon The Ripper Chaingun Cannon should be a real life weapon, It would be a substitute for a Hand Held Minigun, It would be lighter in weight and less bulky too. It seems to be based on the late 19th Century 'Nordenfelt Gun' which was a Gatling Gun rival It was even being discussed here: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread221469/pg1 http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...p/t-88791.html http://www.securityarms.com/forums/showthread.php?t=568 Handheld Nordenfelt Guns?

09-09-2006, 07:57 AM	#117
corn wizard	Re: DNF, John Woo style... http://www.parabellumthegame.com/ check out the nuke at the end- this is the unreal3 engine - kinda looks like I expect DNF will -it has akimbo too Last edited by corn wizard; 09-09-2006 at 10:27 AM.

09-09-2006, 08:50 AM	#118
Tim. Just Tim.	Re: DNF, John Woo style... Akimbo guns are cool in the games that have it. However I can understand keeping it out of DNF. For one thing, D3D didnt have it, so thats one good reason. Besides, it just wouldnt feel right. I cant quite put my finger on why... I mean Duke is all about guns, the more the marrier. So why not akimbo? Just doesnt seem Dukelike somehow. Come to think of it, every gun besides the pistol takes 2 hands anyway! That being said, I guess I wouldnt have a problem with akimbo pistols. If they do chose to put akimbo pistols in, then I hope it works like this: 2 Hands, 1 pistol: Really accurate shooting & very little recoil 2 Hands, 2 pistols: Not so accurate shooting, but faster, and with twice the bullet capacity obviously. In other words, make it a tradeoff between speed, bullet number and accuracy. So 2 pistols arnt necessarily better than one. Its just a matter of taste. Personally I would probably prefer 1 pistol for accuracy. And please god keep anything remotely related to 'Jon Woo' style (whatever the hell that means) out of the game!