a WG MOD. - Page 3

Mr. Pink · 03-22-2008, 05:52 PM

Guys (the important trifecta) this looks absolutely amazing.

William Gee · 03-28-2008, 09:36 PM

Just a couple more basic screens. To keep things moving... :P

DeeperThought · 03-28-2008, 11:03 PM

Hey Hellbound, if you ever get tired of seeing that sword and shield in every f*cking screenshot, you know what you can do about it.

EDIT: Oh cool, I see you put a bunch of those spitting demons up there. I wonder if we should have catapults in this mod.

The Commander · 03-28-2008, 11:05 PM

Press number "1" on the keypad during gameplay? heh

William Gee · 03-29-2008, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeeperThought

I wonder if we should have catapults in this mod.

Sounds like a good idea to me...

The Commander · 03-29-2008, 02:02 AM

oh my...

Spiker · 03-29-2008, 02:08 AM

I would be for some diablo-like inventory. Where you can choose armor helmet, shield, sword etc... Also I hope that the HUD will be totally different, and yes I think that spheres would do. I wonder if you are going to introduce something like mana.

It's only my suggestions but you can at least consider them

Catapults? Yes, please.

DeeperThought · 03-29-2008, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiker

I would be for some diablo-like inventory. Where you can choose armor helmet, shield, sword etc... Also I hope that the HUD will be totally different, and yes I think that spheres would do. I wonder if you are going to introduce something like mana.

It's only my suggestions but you can at least consider them

Catapults? Yes, please.

We are definitely going to have inventory items that fit the theme, and there will be a very simple gold and shop system. As for the rest of it -- that has yet to be decided, but the things we have talked about are pretty simple. For my part, I don't mind adding more RPG elements as long as it stays simple on the user end. I would like this to be a mod that a casual Duke player can just download and start playing without reading instructions first. A GUI inventory like in the Diablo series would certainly be interesting, but I don't see any real justification for it when the Duke system for selecting weapons and inventory suits are purposes just fine.

Spiker · 03-29-2008, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeeperThought

A GUI inventory like in the Diablo series would certainly be interesting, but I don't see any real justification for it when the Duke system for selecting weapons and inventory suits are purposes just fine.

It would be useful if you had many things of the same kind. Let's say 5 different swords. But I doubt that you will have at least 2

William Gee · 03-29-2008, 03:10 AM

Some new shots showing the lighting code, I left the torch lying on the ground so now you see it from a distance.

Remember all lighting and shade in these shots is created by the torch using the DT'S lighting code.

Spiker · 03-29-2008, 03:21 AM

I think it required dividing this area to many sectors to make it look good, right?

William Gee · 03-29-2008, 03:24 AM

Yes. The map is tiny, Even smaller than most small DM maps, but it has almost 3000 sectors.

Spiker · 03-29-2008, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Gee

Yes. The map is tiny, Even smaller than most small DM maps, but it has almost 3000 sectors.

When making a real SP map noone would be able to divide it into so many sectors because of the limits. And it would look at least strange if not silly when using this lighting code in big not subdivided areas. (Not to mention that subdivision is not perfect and it would be pain in the ass to do so) I think the only reasonable sollution would be some eduke32 modification.

TerminX where are you?

DeeperThought · 03-29-2008, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiker

When making a real SP map noone would be able to divide it into so many sectors because of the limits. And it would look at least strange if not silly when using this lighting code in big not subdivided areas. (Not to mention that subdivision is not perfect and it would be pain in the ass to do so) I think the only reasonable sollution would be some eduke32 modification.

TerminX where are you?

Actually I think it looks fine without so many sectors (though mileage may vary). The main improvement you get with high sector density is that the light will cast shadows (e.g. if you are holding the torch on one side of a pillar, sectors on the other side of the pillar that cannot "see" the torch will remain dark, creating a fairly realistic shadow). The other advantage of having lots of sectors is that you get fine gradations of shade as the light diminishes in the distance.

DeeperThought · 03-31-2008, 03:16 PM

[S]Skelknights![/S]

Too bad strikethrough doesn't work anymore.

Bloody Bleeding Flesh Knights!

Plagman · 03-31-2008, 03:19 PM

Skeletons can't bleed.

Quakis · 03-31-2008, 03:27 PM

Where have I seen that poisonous gas attack from before?

DeeperThought · 03-31-2008, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plagman

Skeletons can't bleed.

They aren't really skeletons. There is some flesh on them. Besides, bleeding is cool!

Hellbound · 03-31-2008, 04:04 PM

This is very nice, DT!

Loke · 03-31-2008, 04:08 PM

Dayum, lovin' that blood and gore.

Stan Galler · 03-31-2008, 08:28 PM

damn, that looks fcking amazing! you sure that sheild is 8bit? i want to play that when you guys finish...

those skelnights look like those wierd axe throwing enimies from heritic..

[dumb question]
is this still duke? or a new character?
[/dumb question]

DeeperThought · 03-31-2008, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Galler

damn, that looks fcking amazing! you sure that sheild is 8bit? i want to play that when you guys finish...

Yep. Hellbound made a model, then took pics at different positions, then we converted them to 8bit and put them in an art file.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Galler

those skelnights look like those wierd axe throwing enimies from heritic..

Because they are.

And they do throw axes, I just didn't show that in the movie.

[dumb question]
is this still duke? or a new character?
[/dumb question][/quote]

AFAIK it will be a new character. I was even thinking about recording some new taunts (or whatever you call those things he says when he kills enemies).

EDIT: The long-term plan is to have original art for the enemies. In the mean time, the ripped art is being used as placeholders so I can go ahead and do the coding.

William Gee · 03-31-2008, 09:34 PM

Now I'm very excited about working more on the maps.

DeeperThought · 04-01-2008, 03:25 AM

WIP bow and arrows, art by Hellbound.

Remember, this is 8-bit only and no models here. The arrows stuck in the wall are sprites. I'd also like to make them stay stuck in monsters, but that's going to be a little trickier.

Please excuse the incorrect footstep sounds.

The Commander · 04-01-2008, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeeperThought

Please excuse the incorrect footstep sounds.

Heh, Ive got the same thing,

William Gee · 04-01-2008, 04:26 AM

That is extreamly awesome, love it to bits. cant wait to play with it... I'm just not sure if the aiming is correct, but its pretty quick maybe I am missing something.

Hellbound · 04-01-2008, 04:32 AM

Whoa! Cool code and sounds

Daedolon · 04-01-2008, 07:33 AM

Nice sounds and idea. I hope the arrows are either pickable (depending on the surface they hit) or climbable (like in Witchaven).

The angle of the arrow in the hud weapon is a bit off though. Also, does it fire further away the more you hold down the key?

EDIT: Ooh, so you made the tail pieces of two separate sprites also? Nice.

DeeperThought · 04-01-2008, 08:30 AM

When you say the angle is off, are you guys talking about the horizontal aiming or the vertical aiming?

EDIT: I think you are talking about the horizontal aiming. That was something I struggled with a bit. The arrow fires from dead center, like every other projectile, but the bow seems more naturally placed a little to the left on the hud. I already moved it over to the right quite a bit before making the movie, but perhaps it still needs another nudge. I hate to obscure the beautiful sprites that Hellbound made, though.

Hellbound · 04-01-2008, 08:52 AM

Strange... for me the angle looks okay

Sang · 04-01-2008, 09:04 AM

Well I reckon in a "passive state" the bow would be more to the right but it'd be centered when firing.

In any case, this all looks pretty darn good! Can't wait to play it

DeeperThought · 04-01-2008, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sang

Well I reckon in a "passive state" the bow would be more to the right but it'd be centered when firing.

Considering that he's holding the bow with his left hand, it's over pretty far to the right already.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellbound

Strange... for me the angle looks okay

Hellbound wins.

Hellbound · 04-01-2008, 09:54 AM

Hellbound wins
FATALITY

Sang · 04-01-2008, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeeperThought

Considering that he's holding the bow with his left hand, it's over pretty far to the right already.

D'oh! Just noticed it. Woops.

Daedolon · 04-01-2008, 11:16 AM

I was talking about the way the arrows are in the bow before they're actually fired. It looks like the player aims 45 degrees into the sky but when you shoot the arrows fly straight forward.

DeeperThought · 04-01-2008, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daedolon

I hope the arrows are either pickable (depending on the surface they hit) or climbable (like in Witchaven).

Climb!

diehard52 · 04-01-2008, 11:38 AM

thats awesome!

Daedolon · 04-01-2008, 12:08 PM

NICE!

I guess they should break down if you stay on them for over than few seconds or depending on your armor amount or something.

The Commander · 04-01-2008, 12:14 PM

Man that looks shit. I could make better work of that.

j/k

dcxboxfreak · 04-01-2008, 02:57 PM

Dude that looks ******* aweomse!!!!!!!!!!! It's like the best weapon ever created with the duke engine...didnt even know that it was possible! Looking forward to play!

03-22-2008, 05:52 PM	#81
Mr. Pink	Re: a WG MOD. Guys (the important trifecta) this looks absolutely amazing.

03-28-2008, 09:36 PM	#82
William Gee	Re: a WG MOD. Just a couple more basic screens. To keep things moving... :P __________________ WGRealms.com

03-28-2008, 11:03 PM	#83
DeeperThought	Re: a WG MOD. Hey Hellbound, if you ever get tired of seeing that sword and shield in every fcking screenshot, you know what you can do about it. EDIT: Oh cool, I see you put a bunch of those spitting demons up there. I wonder if we should have catapults in this mod. __________________ DUKE PLUS New map effects and various optional extras for Duke 3D.* DUKE NUKEM: ATTRITION XP based weapon upgrades, progressive difficulty, and more. Last edited by DeeperThought; 03-28-2008 at 11:07 PM.

03-28-2008, 11:05 PM	#84
The Commander	Re: a WG MOD. Press number "1" on the keypad during gameplay? heh __________________ I Know Everything There Is To Know About Anything. Duke Nukem Red Alert SVN Ask Me Anything! Last edited by The Commander; 03-28-2008 at 11:05 PM. Reason: forgot to laugh

03-29-2008, 02:02 AM	#86
The Commander	Re: a WG MOD. oh my... __________________ I Know Everything There Is To Know About Anything. Duke Nukem Red Alert SVN Ask Me Anything!

03-29-2008, 02:08 AM	#87
Spiker	Re: a WG MOD. I would be for some diablo-like inventory. Where you can choose armor helmet, shield, sword etc... Also I hope that the HUD will be totally different, and yes I think that spheres would do. I wonder if you are going to introduce something like mana. It's only my suggestions but you can at least consider them Catapults? Yes, please.

03-29-2008, 03:10 AM	#90
William Gee	Re: a WG MOD. Some new shots showing the lighting code, I left the torch lying on the ground so now you see it from a distance. Remember all lighting and shade in these shots is created by the torch using the DT'S lighting code. __________________ WGRealms.com

03-29-2008, 03:21 AM	#91
Spiker	Re: a WG MOD. I think it required dividing this area to many sectors to make it look good, right?

03-29-2008, 03:24 AM	#92
William Gee	Re: a WG MOD. Yes. The map is tiny, Even smaller than most small DM maps, but it has almost 3000 sectors. __________________ WGRealms.com

03-31-2008, 03:16 PM	#95
DeeperThought	Re: a WG MOD. [S]Skelknights![/S] Too bad strikethrough doesn't work anymore. Bloody Bleeding Flesh Knights! __________________ DUKE PLUS New map effects and various optional extras for Duke 3D. DUKE NUKEM: ATTRITION XP based weapon upgrades, progressive difficulty, and more. Last edited by DeeperThought; 03-31-2008 at 04:23 PM. Reason: Skeletons don't bleed!

03-31-2008, 03:19 PM	#96
Plagman	Re: a WG MOD. Skeletons can't bleed. __________________ EDuke32 - "The corrupt doctrine of terror has begun."

03-31-2008, 03:27 PM	#97
Quakis	Re: a WG MOD. Where have I seen that poisonous gas attack from before? __________________ Latest Review @ The Abandoned Workshops : Castle of the Dark Ages & The Living End The Abandoned Workshops \| Project Gallery \| YouTube Channel \| MyAnimeList \| Star Wars: The New Era

03-31-2008, 04:04 PM	#99
Hellbound	Re: a WG MOD. This is very nice, DT!

03-31-2008, 04:08 PM	#100
Loke	Re: a WG MOD. Dayum, lovin' that blood and gore. __________________ \| YouTube profile \| \| My custom maps \| --- "We've been been betting on on Duke for more then 13 years, I think we're broke by now." - The Stinger

03-31-2008, 08:28 PM	#101
Stan Galler	Re: a WG MOD. damn, that looks fcking amazing! you sure that sheild is 8bit? i want to play that when you guys finish... those skelnights look like those wierd axe throwing enimies from heritic.. [dumb question] is this still duke? or a new character? [/dumb question]

03-31-2008, 09:34 PM	#103
William Gee	Re: a WG MOD. Now I'm very excited about working more on the maps. __________________ WGRealms.com

04-01-2008, 03:25 AM	#104
DeeperThought	Re: a WG MOD. WIP bow and arrows, art by Hellbound. Remember, this is 8-bit only and no models here. The arrows stuck in the wall are sprites. I'd also like to make them stay stuck in monsters, but that's going to be a little trickier. Please excuse the incorrect footstep sounds. __________________ DUKE PLUS New map effects and various optional extras for Duke 3D. DUKE NUKEM: ATTRITION XP based weapon upgrades, progressive difficulty, and more.

04-01-2008, 04:26 AM	#106
William Gee	Re: a WG MOD. That is extreamly awesome, love it to bits. cant wait to play with it... I'm just not sure if the aiming is correct, but its pretty quick maybe I am missing something. __________________ WGRealms.com

04-01-2008, 04:32 AM	#107
Hellbound	Re: a WG MOD. Whoa! Cool code and sounds

04-01-2008, 07:33 AM	#108
Daedolon	Re: a WG MOD. Nice sounds and idea. I hope the arrows are either pickable (depending on the surface they hit) or climbable (like in Witchaven). The angle of the arrow in the hud weapon is a bit off though. Also, does it fire further away the more you hold down the key? EDIT: Ooh, so you made the tail pieces of two separate sprites also? Nice. __________________ Duke Hard - 17 map episode for Duke Nukem 3D.

04-01-2008, 08:30 AM	#109
DeeperThought	Re: a WG MOD. When you say the angle is off, are you guys talking about the horizontal aiming or the vertical aiming? EDIT: I think you are talking about the horizontal aiming. That was something I struggled with a bit. The arrow fires from dead center, like every other projectile, but the bow seems more naturally placed a little to the left on the hud. I already moved it over to the right quite a bit before making the movie, but perhaps it still needs another nudge. I hate to obscure the beautiful sprites that Hellbound made, though. __________________ DUKE PLUS New map effects and various optional extras for Duke 3D. DUKE NUKEM: ATTRITION XP based weapon upgrades, progressive difficulty, and more. Last edited by DeeperThought; 04-01-2008 at 08:39 AM.

04-01-2008, 08:52 AM	#110
Hellbound	Re: a WG MOD. Strange... for me the angle looks okay

04-01-2008, 09:04 AM	#111
Sang	Re: a WG MOD. Well I reckon in a "passive state" the bow would be more to the right but it'd be centered when firing. In any case, this all looks pretty darn good! Can't wait to play it __________________ traB pu kcip

04-01-2008, 09:54 AM	#113
Hellbound	Re: a WG MOD. Hellbound wins FATALITY

04-01-2008, 11:16 AM	#115
Daedolon	Re: a WG MOD. I was talking about the way the arrows are in the bow before they're actually fired. It looks like the player aims 45 degrees into the sky but when you shoot the arrows fly straight forward. __________________ Duke Hard - 17 map episode for Duke Nukem 3D.

04-01-2008, 11:38 AM	#117
diehard52	Re: a WG MOD. thats awesome!

04-01-2008, 12:08 PM	#118
Daedolon	Re: a WG MOD. NICE! I guess they should break down if you stay on them for over than few seconds or depending on your armor amount or something. __________________ Duke Hard - 17 map episode for Duke Nukem 3D.

04-01-2008, 12:14 PM	#119
The Commander	Re: a WG MOD. Man that looks shit. I could make better work of that. j/k __________________ I Know Everything There Is To Know About Anything. Duke Nukem Red Alert SVN Ask Me Anything!

04-01-2008, 02:57 PM	#120
dcxboxfreak	Re: a WG MOD. Dude that looks ******* aweomse!!!!!!!!!!! It's like the best weapon ever created with the duke engine...didnt even know that it was possible! Looking forward to play!