for anyone wanting the prey screenshots from PCg

[KaiserSoze]

i think the game looks beautiful. big ass monsters=big ass gibs.

can't wait to fire some high powered weapons into those bad boys.

Looks kinda like Doom3.

[Kristian Joensen]

Absolutely not, by saying that you reveal that you have not read the article and seen the screenshots.

You have to remeber this uses the Doom 3 engine so does Doom 3, this is a dark sci-fi shooter that same hold true for Doom 3.

But in all other ways we are talking about two entirely different games both grapics wise and gameplaywise.

[FireFly]

That's a subjective judgement, and even after noting everything you've said I still think the enemies in the two games look very similar. It's to do with the skin tones, the harshness of the lighting, the way normal maps are used.

[lonestar]

yet another hh employee has joined. welcome!

let me guess.. you're a level designer.

[Kristian Joensen]

I am not an HH employee.

[Enragiated]

Serious sam 2 is looking better

[John]

Kristian Joensen said:
Absolutely not, by saying that you reveal that you have not read the article and seen the screenshots.

You have to remeber this uses the Doom 3 engine so does Doom 3, this is a dark sci-fi shooter that same hold true for Doom 3.

But in all other ways we are talking about two entirely different games both grapics wise and gameplaywise.

Hmmm...

I have seen the screenshots, and yes I have read the article., and I still think the game itself looks like Doom 3. That isnt a bad thing.

I also remember somebody (george broussard) saying that an engine can be molded and assembled into whatever a developer wants, so take that as you will.

[Kristian Joensen]

I have admitted to it looking like Doom 3 to an extent, namely to the extent games from the same sub-genre and with the same engine look the same, but nothing more than that.

And that is definetly a good thing.

Saying they look more similar than that would be like saying that Quake and Duke3D look identical.

[Horizon55]

Hudson said:

Yeah, it's still really dark. That's much different from Doom III ("The Dark Mod" lol)

I seriously think Carmack should kick himself in the ass for his lighting technique. Far Cry had somewhat of the same type and it was still bright and beautiful.

Farcry is set on islands, and doom is set in malfunctioning research facilities , or Hell.

[mysteryperfecta]

I agree with John and others that say that the environments we've been shown in the screenshots look like Doom 3. Cold, dark metal corridors with metal grate floors, thick steel cables running along the floor, steel-plated walls, etc. The similarities are readily apparent.

The characters we've seen aren't entirely Doom 3-- there's a little Unreal 2 in there. It's unfortunate that two upcoming AAA titles each feature spooky little girls, who's appearances both "ring" a bell.

That said, the article spoke of environments in Prey dissimilar from those in Doom 3. I'll be interested to see those environments.

[Enragiated]

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[Vexed]

Yeah they both have yellow glowy eyes.

[Gryph]

Vexed said:
Yeah they both have yellow glowy eyes.

And they have arms! And horns that face opposite directions! And a torso! OMG!

[Vexed]

Shit! You're right! How could I have been so blind? I see now that they both have skin aswell!

[supermeerkat]

Half or dozen screenshots of an unfinished game aren't enough for any solid conclusions to be drawn about the finished product. FACT. There really is a lot of crap being talked around here about lighting, Doom 3 and similarities, imagined or otherwise.

[lvlmaster]

Imagine working for a company that makes Online games....Youd never hear the end of World of Warcraft comparisons

[KaiserSoze]

lvlmaster said:
Imagine working for a company that makes Online games....Youd never hear the end of World of Warcraft comparisons

are there underwater areas in prey lvlmaster?

[Lengis]

Better question, are there any outdoor levels?

[KaiserSoze]

Lengis said:
Better question, are there any outdoor levels?

yeah, that too!

i'll leave george alone for awhile and come ask these guys questions.

[crunchy superman]

Even more important question (for me anyway):

Are there unskippable cutscenes?

[Mister_Lynyrd]

I'm still sticking to my snap judgement.

Doom3 clone... with portals. I'll bet ya.

[Enragiated]

The next big doom 3 clone, featuring bad guys with horns, and four legged pinky demons with man torsos sticking out of them, i'm excited!

[Steve]

GryphonKlaw said:

And they have arms! And horns that face opposite directions! And a torso! OMG!

Don't forget skin! Yeah.

[Vexed]

Enragiated said:
The next big doom 3 clone, featuring bad guys with horns, and four legged pinky demons with man torsos sticking out of them, i'm excited!

Did you even read the preview?

[hell-angel]

Enragiated said:
The next big doom 3 clone, featuring bad guys with horns, and four legged pinky demons with man torsos sticking out of them, i'm excited!

Even IF it is a doom 3 clone (which I seriously doubt it is), who cares. If the gameplay is great I don't care what I am playing, as long as I have fun playing it.
And THAT is what games are all about...

[Cerberus_e]

KaiserSoze said:

yeah, that too!

i'll leave george alone for awhile and come ask these guys questions.

and are there twisted "wallwalks" (also used for ceiling and floor walking) with lots of loops and corkscrews in a big room?

[Geir]

yes, it's russian
yes, they are magazene scans
it is translated by bablefish:

ak it was expected earlier, the June number of the American PC Gamer brought information about one of quite prolonged and desired dolgostroyev of past century - project Prey. Without having waited for Duke Nukem Forever, we again begin to look forward output Prey from the sweet pair Human Head and 3D Realms. As publication reports, the works on the game were stopped after improbably loud, interesting (we everything we remember blue monster and sis'ki) and promising announcement (1996), and it is later and it is completely frozen for the technical reasons. Present Prey - gloomy sci- fie FPS with the very nontrivial subject, which is developed on the motion of the passage of game. Project reveals the history of Tommy, descendant of the Indians Of cheroki. Our hero lives in the wilderness and dreams to take away his girl of spinning jennies, having finally left reservation. On one night did not happen terrible - bar, where the elder relative of hero works as the manager, but by assistant - his girl, to become the place of the pilgrimage of inoplanetyan. Spinning jennies here steal, and it rushes after it into the portal and volume itself after enormous mul'tika hero comes into himself aboard the spacecraft of extraterrestrial urodtsev. By now primary task of Toma to become rescuing by that loved. Psychological component promises to become in Prey the important element of action on the player. According to Scott Miller, executive director 3D Realms (CEO), Prey it will add in FPS, as a minimum, the present history of love, by which we everything will be anxious, and refreshed the rotting genre by the firm humor Duke Nukem, until the spacecraft of newcomers continues to be located near the earth's orbit, being invisible, preparing rough intrusion to our planet... New Prey, to be constructed on repeatedly modernized cursor Doom 3, which is simple to note on the stated below images. Game promises sufficiently reasonable monsters, jaunts on the walls in weightlessness, many exotic places, and also complex system of teleportatsiy. Command 3D Realms in detail and meticulously was immersed into the study of the history of the Indians Of cheroki in order to maximally reliably transfer the means of life and tradition of native-born Americans into the game. Thus, developers created conflict between the living in the descendants perfumes of the earliest people and the contemporary cruel newcomers. For the elongation of the game of Tommy it will "earn" skills hereditary passing to it from the grandfather. With their aid the spirit of hero will learn to leave its body, or to be restored after death, without the turning to the file of retention. Also together with the hero, on the hostile jails will travel the spirit of the hawk Of telon, which, that it brought up by child. The main advantage of spirit will become transfer it is text from the language of newcomers in the traditional English. The ability of monsters to be teleeed-PORTAR with the aid of the portals directly in Tommy after the back is noted among other possibilities. There will be the place into Prey and for organic weapon, "living" grenades promise effectively and effectively to be finished with the enemy, eating him from within. Developers promise is somewhat it is specific transport and completely reckless multi-user regime. Is more than details - in the the original PC Gamer. Output of game - winter 2005. Continue to believe and to pray, indeed Duke Nukem Forever (to ofiget', it it is prepared already for 70 percent!) also compulsorily sometimes it will leave (namely to its decade).

[hell-angel]

Continue to believe and to pray, indeed Duke Nukem Forever (to ofiget', it it is prepared already for 70 percent!) also compulsorily sometimes it will leave (namely to its decade).

70% huh?? I do hope that babelfish can translate the numbers correctly

[GoodStuff]

Doom 3.

[Scott Miller]

>>> Looks kinda like Doom3.

There are similarities, unquestionably. But Prey is far, far more organic, as it takes place on a living creature (the huge ship itself). It just so happens that the 2-3 levels used in this preview were some of the lesser organic ones.

Also, the game has serious and dramatic play differences from Doom. I classify Doom's innovation as flashlight gameplay, as the flashlight was integral to the game. Not so at all with Prey. And there are many other key gameplay differences, such as portals, wall walking, spirit walking, death walk, AI, a sidekick (the hawk), the way the story is told (no PDAs!), vehicles, gravity effects, etc.

[dark_angel]

Hey Scott

Glad to see you posting here again!

[Malgon]

Hey Scott

Great too hear the look of the screen shots are more of the interior levels, and that there will be more organic areas to explore. The question of it looking like Doom 3 is valid, but I think if two games are made with a sci-fi theme there are bound to be some similarities, but they can still be different. It all comes down to the artwork that may make them look similar but not the same. The look is part of the feel of the game, and I am sure the gameplay matters most to both HH and 3DR!

[Mr.DJ]

Those screens looks pretty awesome, and I really dig the mood set in those screens.

However, if the game is expected to ship in 2006, I would seriously consider upping the texture detail on the characters. Especially the characters with lots of visible skin, because the illusion of "skin" breaks when the character gets close(especially visible on the "part man - part monster" character).

That being said, I would love a game that can re-create some of the "feel" I got from when I watched the first alien movie

I think we should stay positive undtill we know more, or have the game in our hands. THEN we can bash the game for being a boring Doom3 ripoff(Like others, I have to admit I found Doom3 to be too repetitive, because of the non-stop killing of enemies in a world with only "static" enviroments).

Edit: I wrote this before Scott posted!

[Kristian Joensen]

Scott Miller said:
>>> Looks kinda like Doom3.

There are similarities, unquestionably. But Prey is far, far more organic, as it takes place on a living creature (the huge ship itself). It just so happens that the 2-3 levels used in this preview were some of the lesser organic ones.

Also, the game has serious and dramatic play differences from Doom. I classify Doom's innovation as flashlight gameplay, as the flashlight was integral to the game. Not so at all with Prey. And there are many other key gameplay differences, such as portals, wall walking, spirit walking, death walk, AI, a sidekick (the hawk), the way the story is told (no PDAs!), vehicles, gravity effects, etc.

Admit it Scott, Prey is your baby.

[dark_angel]

^^^
Nope. It is Human Head baby

[Kristian Joensen]

Well ofcourse that too.

[dark_angel]

Kristian Joensen said:
Well ofcourse that too.

And soon, It will be our baby too

Really, The gameplay elements that Scott mentioned above prove that Prey will be something really special.

This is the least we should expect from a game produced or developed by 3DREALMS

Scotts answer makes me want this game!

The most annoying "feature" in Doom was the flashlight. If you switch to your weapon it is so dark, that you can't even see the enemy. The only evidence of the enemy is the crosshair fading red.
*sarcasm*What a great game!*/sarcasm*

No pda's, no flashlight and organic levels
You really do know what made the game Doom so bad.
So I'am very excited to see the Doom Engine in a good game

[MegaMustaine]

KaiserSoze said:

yeah, that too!

i'll leave george alone for awhile and come ask these guys questions.

Don't do that. You are the only link we have between George and DNF. You are the only reason he preaches WID.