The Prey website - Page 2

ZealoT · 04-16-2005, 12:39 PM

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yossa said:
I have extracted the bitmaps used in the flash files:

How do you do something like that?

trackit · 04-16-2005, 12:58 PM

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ZealoT said:

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yossa said:
I have extracted the bitmaps used in the flash files:

How do you do something like that?

use flash decompiler...

yossa · 04-16-2005, 03:20 PM

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ZealoT said:
How do you do something like that?

I imported the file to Flash MX trial.

ZealoT · 04-16-2005, 06:45 PM

ok, thanks!

Kristian Joensen · 04-17-2005, 08:41 AM

Could this be of any importance ?

Simon Charles · 04-17-2005, 08:43 AM

Anyone managed to understand what the undead girl is screaming?

Ronald McDonald · 04-17-2005, 09:17 AM

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Simon Charles said:
Anyone managed to understand what the undead girl is screaming?

All your base are belong to us?

Duoae · 04-17-2005, 09:40 AM

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Simon Charles said:
Anyone managed to understand what the undead girl is screaming?

It sounds like "Help me" to me....

Kristian Joensen · 04-17-2005, 11:10 AM

Apparently 3D Reamls owns www.tommyhawk.com a actual website, with no appreant connection to 3D Realms.

Eclipse · 04-17-2005, 11:42 AM

Yup - check the details out here. They don't own talonbrave.com though.

RedSplat · 04-17-2005, 11:52 AM

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Simon Charles said:
Anyone managed to understand what the undead girl is screaming?

Record it and play it backwards?

Kristian Joensen · 04-17-2005, 11:59 AM

I tried I can't hear anything meaninfull.

Bye Bye Baddies · 04-17-2005, 12:10 PM

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Kristian Joensen said:
Apparently 3D Reamls owns www.tommyhawk.com a actual website, with no appreant connection to 3D Realms.

Actually, tommyhawk.com seems to be impersonating the home page of the real web site www.tombarthsmusicbox.com . If you go there, you will find a picture and link to the band website www.blackfootrocks.com

Perhaps this band created music for Prey. I hope so, cause their tunes create a nice western/rock atmosphere and sound great.

Kristian Joensen · 04-17-2005, 12:12 PM

tommyhawk.com, doesn't impersonate tombarthsmusicbox.com but redirects/points to it.

Bye Bye Baddies · 04-17-2005, 12:30 PM

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Kristian Joensen said:
tommyhawk.com, doesn't impersonate tombarthsmusicbox.com but redirects/points to it.

TommyHawk.com seems to be nothing but a single page with a SWF and a link that deep links into a real website. This seems weird considering the real website has different info on their homepage and the two domains are owned by different people - so I think impersonating was an ok description.

Perhaps its a clue or Tom Barth (who makes a miniature guitar called the TommyHawk) asked Joe to transfer the domain and instead Joe just said gimme your home page (but seems a bit far fetched). I'm just trying to find either a clue or an explanation for the discrepancy.

If putting up the page was deliberate then we get some nice music out of it. Perhaps a local band in the game? Speculating and concluding without real facts is fun!

tony · 04-17-2005, 12:44 PM

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.tommyhawk.com

The website has been around for a while; 3DR probably bought it from them but havent changed the nameservers. I dont see any significance of it. Also the site has looked like that since Dec 16, 2003.

Kristian Joensen · 04-17-2005, 12:47 PM

Prey started development in late 2001.

tony · 04-17-2005, 12:53 PM

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Kristian Joensen said:
Prey started development in late 2001.

The overall content has been the same since 1998. It means nothing.

Kristian Joensen · 04-17-2005, 12:55 PM

How do you know that ?

Edited:

Oh, and 1998 is also before 2003.

tony · 04-17-2005, 01:13 PM

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Kristian Joensen said:
How do you know that ?

Edited:

Oh, and 1998 is also before 2003.

The flash-based site was started in 2003. The content in the flash is very similar to what was in the site in 1998. For the theory of it meaning something, 3DR would have to have bought the domain in 2003. Do you really think they would have a clue hanging out there since then?

and, as i posted above, look at archive.org for evidence.

Kristian Joensen · 04-17-2005, 01:27 PM

Well, how do you know that Prey has been basicly the same since 1998 ?

tony · 04-17-2005, 01:48 PM

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Kristian Joensen said:
Well, how do you know that Prey has been basicly the same since 1998 ?

The copywright on the site is Tom Barth. He filed for a trademark for "The original Tommy Hawk" in 1995, and it is still live.

The first filing of the name "Tommy Hawk" by Apogee was in 1998, which died in 2001. Two new ones were brought up again in 2002 and 2003, which are still live.

There is nothing pointing to any releavence at all.

source

Kristian Joensen · 04-17-2005, 02:48 PM

Look, 3D Realms own Tommyhawk.com. But none of this proves that Human Head/3DR haven't changed the game maybe even substansially.

tony · 04-17-2005, 02:57 PM

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Kristian Joensen said:
Look, 3D Realms own Tommyhawk.com. But none of this proves that Human Head/3DR haven't changed the game maybe even substansially.

I'm not saying anything regarding about the current status of the game. Im simply saying that the content of the site has nothing to do with 3drealms or any upcomming game. There is no "clue."

Kristian Joensen · 04-17-2005, 03:01 PM

Okay, but the fact remains they own the domain.

Joe Siegler · 04-21-2005, 12:04 AM

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yossa said:I DON'T like plastic looking games. I don't believe 3DR & HH would pull such thing off - that is I don't want to believe it. I think that after FarCry and especially Doom 3 the message from the gamers about this matter was clear enough. It's not moaning, just judging what we have right now.

Seems like you guys are damning the game based on some captured .bmp images from a web teaser. That seems a bit "out there" to me.

KaiserSoze · 04-21-2005, 12:07 AM

feel free to post screenshots then guys.

the article is "out there" and it's only a matter of hours, minutes perhaps that scans find their way online.

reveal this bad boy!

Spooger · 04-21-2005, 12:09 AM

/me waits up past his bedtime with Kaiser so he can indulge on the greatness that awaits

yossa · 04-21-2005, 05:18 AM

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Joe3DR said:
Seems like you guys are damning the game based on some captured .bmp images from a web teaser. That seems a bit "out there" to me.

Well now I've seen a little more and am not happy to confirm that I was right and plastic people are in the game. But hey! Prey is about its story and bringing love revolution to FPS games, so I'm still waiting in anticipation

X-Vector · 04-21-2005, 05:57 AM

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yossa said:
Well now I've seen a little more and am not happy to confirm that I was right and plastic people are in the game.

Being right and not feeling happy about it, I know the feeling.

Giblet · 04-21-2005, 07:01 AM

"Plastic people" is caused by over use of specular. It's used to create more hash looking detail in the models by enhancing the bumpmapping which in conjuntion with the lighting you do get that shiny look, but I don't think it's a reason to cry. It's barely noticable when actually moving in game. Screenshots open themselves to intense scrutiny and flaws are apparent.

Turn off the specular and you get HL2 style flat textures. You can bump up the res too. Trust me, the same style will be used in future engines (It's being done in UE3) but when the textures are so low res everything looks kind of ..wierd. Bumping up the res serves to limit the performance of the game, but it makes the effect more realistic.

It's really a design choice, you could easily leave out the specular map.

Rider · 04-21-2005, 07:46 AM

the source on the Prey.com site has been changed, now it says:

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The Source Code says: Evil draws near. From beyond the veil of the world you understand. You cannot turn your back on your heritage any longer. From it you will draw strength. All your life you have rejected the ways of your ancestors. The beliefs of your people. But now you must embrace them, if you are to survive.

Parkar · 04-21-2005, 07:46 AM

A specular adjustment setting so the player can adjust the brigthness of the specular maps just like gamma/brightness/saturation settings would be realy nice.

Skinner · 04-21-2005, 04:17 PM

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Doppelgofer said:
looks scary....

i want it

edit: check out the source of the site...you get this in the meta description:

<meta name="description" content="0100100001101001011001000110100101101110
0110011100100000011101000110100001101001011011
1001100111011100110010000001101001011011100010
0000011101000110100001100101001000000111001101
1011110111010101110010011000110110010100100000
0110001101101111011001000110010100100000011010
0101110011001000000111001101101111001000000011
0010001100000111010001101000001000000110001101
1001010110111001110100011101010111001001111001
0010111000100000010010010110011000100000011110
0101101111011101010010011101110010011001010010
0000011011000110111101101111011010110110100101
1011100110011100100000011001100110111101110010
0010000001101101011011110111001001100101001000
0001101001011011100110011001101111001110100010
0000010100000100001100100000010001110110000101
1011010110010101110010001011100010000001001010
0111010101101110011001010010000001101001011100
1101110011011101010110010100101110001000000101
0111011011110111001001101100011001000111011101
1010010110010001100101001000000110010001100101
01100010011101010111010000101110" />

anyone know binary?

looks like we have ourselves the new 'littlechiquita' and 'ilovebees'

Translation:

"Evil draws near. From beyond the veil of the world you understand. You cannot turn your back on your heritage any longer. From it you will draw strength. All your life you have rejected the ways of your ancestors. The beliefs of your people. But now you must embrace them, if you are to survive."

-SKINNER

KaiserSoze · 04-21-2005, 04:19 PM

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Skinner said:

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Doppelgofer said:
looks scary....

i want it

edit: check out the source of the site...you get this in the meta description:

<meta name="description" content="0100100001101001011001000110100101101110
0110011100100000011101000110100001101001011011
1001100111011100110010000001101001011011100010
0000011101000110100001100101001000000111001101
1011110111010101110010011000110110010100100000
0110001101101111011001000110010100100000011010
0101110011001000000111001101101111001000000011
0010001100000111010001101000001000000110001101
1001010110111001110100011101010111001001111001
0010111000100000010010010110011000100000011110
0101101111011101010010011101110010011001010010
0000011011000110111101101111011010110110100101
1011100110011100100000011001100110111101110010
0010000001101101011011110111001001100101001000
0001101001011011100110011001101111001110100010
0000010100000100001100100000010001110110000101
1011010110010101110010001011100010000001001010
0111010101101110011001010010000001101001011100
1101110011011101010110010100101110001000000101
0111011011110111001001101100011001000111011101
1010010110010001100101001000000110010001100101
01100010011101010111010000101110" />

anyone know binary?

looks like we have ourselves the new 'littlechiquita' and 'ilovebees'

Translation:

"Evil draws near. From beyond the veil of the world you understand. You cannot turn your back on your heritage any longer. From it you will draw strength. All your life you have rejected the ways of your ancestors. The beliefs of your people. But now you must embrace them, if you are to survive."

-SKINNER

this is my bro.

Kristian Joensen · 04-21-2005, 04:19 PM

It has already been translated.

Hudson · 04-21-2005, 05:09 PM

Enough with this "OMG IT LOOKS LIKE PLASTIC!" crap, seriously. The game looks gorgeous.

I'm just wondering when the prey website is going to "go live" so to speak.

Ivan · 04-21-2005, 05:12 PM

I was searching for the online site of one of my friend's school and I typed in: louisriel[dot]com and ended up on a site similar to Prey's one, but there was no animation.

On another note, as for now I don't plan to change my computer, maybe end 2007 I will do. If DNF comes out before, hopefully, I'll play it on my dad's new computer.

Kev_Hectic · 04-21-2005, 05:31 PM

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Ivan said:
I was searching for the online site of one of my friend's school and I typed in: louisriel[dot]com and ended up on a site similar to Prey's one, but there was no animation.

I'm sure there's where 3DR ripped the design/ graphics off of.

Also, I like how the text under Talequah Communications changed from: "This site is under Consumption and Comming Soon" to: "Your Changing Source for Communications". Subtle.

ADM · 04-21-2005, 05:39 PM

Yes it was modelled to represent a domain parked site so people got turned off and/or act suprised when the portal thingy came up.

04-16-2005, 06:45 PM	#44
ZealoT	Re: The Prey website ok, thanks!

04-17-2005, 08:41 AM	#45
Kristian Joensen	Re: The Prey website Could this be of any importance ? __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

04-17-2005, 08:43 AM	#46
Simon Charles	Re: The Prey website Anyone managed to understand what the undead girl is screaming? __________________ Do you know the problem in my life, Inspector? An abundance of leisure. -Hercule Poirot

04-17-2005, 11:10 AM	#49
Kristian Joensen	Re: The Prey website Apparently 3D Reamls owns www.tommyhawk.com a actual website, with no appreant connection to 3D Realms. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

04-17-2005, 11:42 AM	#50
Eclipse	Re: The Prey website Yup - check the details out here. They don't own talonbrave.com though. __________________ PlanetDuke

04-17-2005, 11:59 AM	#52
Kristian Joensen	Re: The Prey website I tried I can't hear anything meaninfull. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

04-17-2005, 12:12 PM	#54
Kristian Joensen	Re: The Prey website tommyhawk.com, doesn't impersonate tombarthsmusicbox.com but redirects/points to it. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

04-17-2005, 12:44 PM	#56
tony	Re: The Prey website http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.tommyhawk.com The website has been around for a while; 3DR probably bought it from them but havent changed the nameservers. I dont see any significance of it. Also the site has looked like that since Dec 16, 2003. __________________ o·pin·ion n. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof.

04-17-2005, 12:47 PM	#57
Kristian Joensen	Re: The Prey website Prey started development in late 2001. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

04-17-2005, 12:55 PM	#59
Kristian Joensen	Re: The Prey website How do you know that ? Edited: Oh, and 1998 is also before 2003. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

04-17-2005, 01:27 PM	#61
Kristian Joensen	Re: The Prey website Well, how do you know that Prey has been basicly the same since 1998 ? __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

04-17-2005, 02:48 PM	#63
Kristian Joensen	Re: The Prey website Look, 3D Realms own Tommyhawk.com. But none of this proves that Human Head/3DR haven't changed the game maybe even substansially. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

04-17-2005, 03:01 PM	#65
Kristian Joensen	Re: The Prey website Okay, but the fact remains they own the domain. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

04-21-2005, 12:07 AM	#67
KaiserSoze	Re: The Prey website feel free to post screenshots then guys. the article is "out there" and it's only a matter of hours, minutes perhaps that scans find their way online. reveal this bad boy! __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JjimMO2SdE

04-21-2005, 12:09 AM	#68
Spooger	Re: The Prey website /me waits up past his bedtime with Kaiser so he can indulge on the greatness that awaits

04-21-2005, 07:01 AM	#71
Giblet	Re: The Prey website "Plastic people" is caused by over use of specular. It's used to create more hash looking detail in the models by enhancing the bumpmapping which in conjuntion with the lighting you do get that shiny look, but I don't think it's a reason to cry. It's barely noticable when actually moving in game. Screenshots open themselves to intense scrutiny and flaws are apparent. Turn off the specular and you get HL2 style flat textures. You can bump up the res too. Trust me, the same style will be used in future engines (It's being done in UE3) but when the textures are so low res everything looks kind of ..wierd. Bumping up the res serves to limit the performance of the game, but it makes the effect more realistic. It's really a design choice, you could easily leave out the specular map.

04-21-2005, 07:46 AM	#73
Parkar	Re: The Prey website A specular adjustment setting so the player can adjust the brigthness of the specular maps just like gamma/brightness/saturation settings would be realy nice. __________________ Action Unreal Tournament Duke Nukem 3D: High Resolution Pack HRP wiki: A HRP development tool

04-21-2005, 04:19 PM	#76
Kristian Joensen	Re: The Prey website It has already been translated. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

04-21-2005, 05:09 PM	#77
Hudson	Re: The Prey website Enough with this "OMG IT LOOKS LIKE PLASTIC!" crap, seriously. The game looks gorgeous. I'm just wondering when the prey website is going to "go live" so to speak. __________________ Staying Frosty Since 09/06/07 - I love you Katie <3 “Software is like sex; it's better when it's free.” - Linus Torvalds “Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.” - Calvin & Hobbes [INSERT SYSTEM SPECS THAT NO ONE CARES ABOUT HERE]

04-21-2005, 05:12 PM	#78
Ivan	Re: The Prey website I was searching for the online site of one of my friend's school and I typed in: louisriel[dot]com and ended up on a site similar to Prey's one, but there was no animation. On another note, as for now I don't plan to change my computer, maybe end 2007 I will do. If DNF comes out before, hopefully, I'll play it on my dad's new computer.

04-21-2005, 05:39 PM	#80
ADM	Re: The Prey website Yes it was modelled to represent a domain parked site so people got turned off and/or act suprised when the portal thingy came up.