Triton

[Duoae]

I would like triton if i was able to download it and not have to run triton in the background - which is what i understand from all the differing posts here... Why doesn't Joe or HH make a sticky FAQ about the service?

[GambitMR]

thanks for answering the question(s) OBWANDO

[DI-MeisterM]

After reading all of this, I'm really happy that HH/3DR isn't forcing us to use Triton

[Kristian Joensen]

Originally Posted by birty

I had that too. You are probably on the old blue client which doesnt seem to update itself. uninstall it and then download the new client and it should work (this is what I had to do)

What old blue client to you mean ? I just recently dowloaded the new Triton as opposed to Game XStream client(or in that case "player").

Edit:

Oh and there don't seem to be any problems with the client since downloading the Doom 3 Demo worked and the Prey preorder worked.

[Babe]

Open your eyes my friend, there are svers limitations to purchasing the game from Triton. I quote from the official Triton FAQ page and try to explain :

In order to purchase a game you must download our Player software.

Explanation : So it means that without this software, you cant run the game. So your game becomes dependent on Triton, just like Half Life 2 is on Steam.

On some slower broadband connections, it is normal behavior for the game to occasionally freeze or stop responding during game play. This allows required "chunks" of the game to be downloaded and processed by your computer. If this seems to happen too much please verify your broadband connection, or exit the game, and allow it to download a larger portion of the game ahead of time before playing again.

Explanation : Game will sometimes play jurky the first time you play the game. And isnt the first time the best time to enjoy the game at it's fullest ?

You will be able to backup your game folder to a CD, however you must reauthorize the copy with the latest Triton player.

Explanation : Why Triton users have to got through this ? As far as I know by reading from various forum threads, no such types of installation authorization is done for the CD/DVD users.

And ofcourse, you dont get CDs/DVD with a case and a nice kool looking box !

[Wolle]

Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

What old blue client to you mean ? I just recently dowloaded the new Triton as opposed to Game XStream client(or in that case "player").

How recently? I downloaded a client last week, but it didn't work either. I had to install the new, improved one. I'm not sure when it came out, but it's within the last week or so.

[Kristian Joensen]

Is June 28th, recent enough ?

[Wolle]

Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

Is June 28th, recent enough ?

I don't know, but it should look like this:

The client is only a 2-3 MB download, so if you're in doubt you can always download it.

[Kristian Joensen]

That is pretty similar(but not exatly the same) to the one I had, but I just downloaded another verson.

However the version I downloaded apperantly won't let me login.

[birty]

yep i downloaded last week and got the old client. If it looks similar to https://www.distream.com/disms/startingframeset.asp then it is the older client and needs to be replaced by the newer client pictured above

[HRose]

Yeah, the old version of Triton seems broken and doesn't update itself. I had also to disinstall/reinstall.

Triton guys reading the forum should give this problem a look.

On the other side it looks like they are really trying to do a good work (I noticed they added auto log-in and the possibility to save the password).

[IceColdDuke]

Originally Posted by HRose

On the other side it looks like they are really trying to do a good work (I noticed they added auto log-in and the possibility to save the password).

Now looking at what there doing it seems Triton arcthicture seems solid, but as long as a boxed version of the game I still think thats the best option versus online systems like Triton.

So my next question is, is the downloaded content inside of some encrypted archive where the exe is barried in or is the EXE seperate so users can use command line switches?

[Kristian Joensen]

Well with the Doom 3 demo on triton the exe is seperated.

[HRose]

You should be able to use just the standard shortcut as with other games. It won't be an issue.

[OBWANDO]

Kristian: "I also have a question, will you be able to pause and resume the downloads ?"

Yes

HRose: "You should be able to use just the standard shortcut as with other games. It won't be an issue."

Its a little different than the regular direct shortcut, but performance wise, the same.

[Guru]

OBWANDO,

I just reinstalled Triton and deleted my 8% Prey Preload to start downloading it again, will it goto 98% this time or if not when will it?. Thanks

[Preybait]

For not getting a box and manual I thought the whole purpose of downloading a game was a cheaper price. Since they are charging the same I will just get the game from the store and not have the hassle people are talking about with triton.

[IceColdDuke]

Originally Posted by Preybait

For not getting a box and manual I thought the whole purpose of downloading a game was a cheaper price. Since they are charging the same I will just get the game from the store and not have the hassle people are talking about with triton.

Exactlly and you could hve got the box copy cheaper(40.00 including tax and shiping) which definetlly a better buy then buying it through triton, if it was cheaper or close to $40 I would have considered buying it through there but if you have a choice 3-5 day wait for shipping after the release isn't that bad of a compromise.

[Aegeri]

Originally Posted by Guru

OBWANDO,

I just reinstalled Triton and deleted my 8% Prey Preload to start downloading it again, will it goto 98% this time or if not when will it?. Thanks

I have no idea myself, but if I've interpreted what OBWANDO has indicated it must work like this. From the time that you had preordered the game and started preloading, the triton install will download a certain amount per day up to a certain amount. Initially that was 322mb or whatever it was, then it will slowly increase that per day. Essentially, by the time it reaches the 11th it will have downloaded all but 2% of the data, which it will finish on that day.

So basically each day from now it will allow you to DL more. So maybe 3% initally, then 8% the next day, then 12% the next and so on and such forth until it reaches 98% preloaded by the 11th.

I've no particular idea why on earth they've decided to go with such a funny staggered downloading system, but it appears to be the way things work.

[Guru]

It seems to be downloading all of it now as I am upto 31% and it is still going strong. I think it was just a bug initially which they have fixed now so thank you Triton for coming through for your customers.

[HRose]

Originally Posted by Aegeri

I've no particular idea why on earth they've decided to go with such a funny staggered downloading system, but it appears to be the way things work.

Steam did the exact same thing with HL2. It's a smart way to not kill the servers.

[marty56]

How did you get Prey to continue to preload. How big is your folder now?

[dark_angel]

Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

I also have a question, will you be able to pause and resume the downloads ?

sure.

[marty56]

There is a cancel button but no pause and resume button. I will let someone else try that and see if it works.

I uninstalled Triton, renamed the orginal folder, and reinstalled Triton and am downlaoding the game again. This time it downloaded 1.56GB

[CoMa]

Can u explain to me better how triton works?
Sorry my bad english me italian.
When i download the game from triton, i'm able to play the game without triton ?

[Damien_Azreal]

Have you used Steam? It's pretty similar.

[darkfalcon]

Originally Posted by CoMa

Can u explain to me better how triton works?
Sorry my bad english me italian.
When i download the game from triton, i'm able to play the game without triton ?

Yes you will be able to play the game without using Triton. Triton is a delivery system that gets the game to you as fast as your connection can go.

You can even preload it now and play it within minutes of its release on July 11 at 12:01 AM.

--Andreu

[marty56]

The first time I installed Triton it dowloaded 322MB. I unstalled it and reinstalled it and it downloaded 1.56GB.

There arent any options on Triton to verify the download or event to tell me how much of they game I have.

I would like more info from the Triton program and beacuse Triton will launch the game from its menu, it isnt clear that you have to run the game through Triton every time or do you use it to insure you always have the latest updates.

There is only one large file and 2 small files in the download folder and non of them are .exe or other type of game files, I will assume that when the game is unlocked, the Triton gets the files from the larger files - sota like a zip file.

[Duoae]

Originally Posted by darkfalcon

Yes you will be able to play the game without using Triton. Triton is a delivery system that gets the game to you as fast as your connection can go.
--Andreu

As far as i understand it that's not entirely true. If you download it through triton then you HAVE to have triton - like steam - to run the game.

If you buy it on cd then you don't.

I'm a little confused because there was all this talk by 3DR when the system was called the other thing about how it was better than steam and how it was different.... but now it's not. There is no difference except buying a boxed copy is actually better than buying a boxed copy of a steam game....

[marty56]

From the Triton FAQ

7. What does it mean by client stamp does not match?

...If the player is moved to another PC, or accessed with another user account, it may request another stamp to verify its own integrity...

8. Do I have to be online to play the games I have purchased?

No, Using the latest Triton player you will not be required to be online to play games that have been fully received. Once the game has been received it is authorized for offline use. Perfect for LAN parties.


9. Can I burn a copy of my games to a CD that I have purchased through Triton?

You will be able to backup your game folder to a CD, however you must reauthorize the copy with the latest Triton player. Simply log into the player, and point the install path to your backup folder and it will reauthorize it for use with your account.

FAQ 7,8,9 Seems that while you need the player to launch the game, you may not need to be online once you have all the game. This is reasonable and protects the game from piracy. Since Many programs already do this (antivirus comes to mind) this may work out better for us and the developer then the tradional forms of copy-protection which are hardware based.

Item #9: I dont see an option on the current Triton player to perform this function. perhaps it is only avaiable when the game is ready to be used.

[CosmicD]

Originally Posted by Duoae

As far as i understand it that's not entirely true. If you download it through triton then you HAVE to have triton - like steam - to run the game.

If you buy it on cd then you don't.

I'm a little confused because there was all this talk by 3DR when the system was called the other thing about how it was better than steam and how it was different.... but now it's not. There is no difference except buying a boxed copy is actually better than buying a boxed copy of a steam game....

Well I hope by the release of the game they'll present us with the new triton look that also will show us some more core features and be a bit more vocal about locations , status of own or available games, or more accessible and intuitive account functions.

I'm going to order prey trough triton this weekend I'm curious about the speed of preloading. I could redownload hl2 ep1 in 8si hours

[marty56]

I was able to downlaod 1.56GB at my connection speed (DSL pro ~ 300KB) I didnt think time time the download but it seemed quicker then that.

I think it worked very quickly and faster then Steam. Try downloading the Prey demo using Triton first to get an idea of the speed.

[Duoae]

Originally Posted by CosmicD

Well I hope by the release of the game they'll present us with the new triton look that also will show us some more core features and be a bit more vocal about locations , status of own or available games, or more accessible and intuitive account functions.

I'm going to order prey trough triton this weekend I'm curious about the speed of preloading. I could redownload hl2 ep1 in 8si hours

The thing is, my point was that there's no difference between the two services; Triton and Steam. One is as bad as the other, preloading speed makes no difference to anyone.... authentication is the evil i'm annoyed about....

IMO, a download service should force people to burn the files to a cd and then provide the same service as actually buying a cd from the stores. Not force authentication every time you install etc. You can easily force a "1 burn per download" so why not do it? You still own the game... your game list is still recognised by triton and you still have to have punkbuster to play online.... But of course even 3DR isn't above current concensus on copyright protection in downloadable games.... I think it's sad that they were saying for so long how much better the service was and that it was different from steam - maybe for marketing purposes for all i know.... but it's not. IMO this is a SONY style mistake.... I learnt my lesson when purchasing HL2 (also LSL: Magna Cum Laude - i know ) and i don't plan on purchasing another needlessly authentication-crap loaded game. It's why i don't purchase the premium Neverwinternights modules. I would love to buy them, support the dev, but what's the point if i have to be online everytime i want to play. If they don't trust me, i don't pay them. Simple as.

[avatar_58]

LSL:MCL? I don't know what you mean, it didn't have any authentication. Unless you bought that shitty VUgames unrated cash-in.

[marty56]

Originally Posted by Duoae

The thing is, my point was that there's no difference between the two services; Triton and Steam. One is as bad as the other, preloading speed makes no difference to anyone.... authentication is the evil i'm annoyed about....

Any game that requires you have the CD and or DVD in it does authentication each time as well. Your game probably checks the stored CD each time it runs also.

[marty56]

Originally Posted by CosmicD

I'm going to order prey trough triton this weekend I'm curious about the speed of preloading. I could redownload hl2 ep1 in 8si hours

I don't know how big HL2 ep1 was but my dowload was much faster. Granted I may have hit the servers at the correct time. I think the download for 1.56GB for me was around 1.5 hours which is about as fast as my DSL connection could download at ~ 300KB

[Duoae]

Originally Posted by avatar_58

LSL:MCL? I don't know what you mean, it didn't have any authentication. Unless you bought that shitty VUgames unrated cash-in.

I bought it through Vu games online division... yes i know it was a TERRIBLE mistake. I thought i might have been funny... it wasn't.

Originally Posted by marty56

Any game that requires you have the CD and or DVD in it does authentication each time as well. Your game probably checks the stored CD each time it runs also.

You know exactly what i mean. There is a difference between requiring the purchased media and an actual service (ie net connection) to authenticate the actual product. Don't purposely misinerpret me or defend the processes because they are fundamentally different.

[Kristian Joensen]

Duoae, online authentication won't be used for Prey. That decision was reveresed.

[CosmicD]

Originally Posted by marty56

I don't know how big HL2 ep1 was but my dowload was much faster. Granted I may have hit the servers at the correct time. I think the download for 1.56GB for me was around 1.5 hours which is about as fast as my DSL connection could download at ~ 300KB

I believe steam in belgium is often slow.. not alway, and its also depending on what server steam chooses to connect maybe

[marty56]

They both serve the same purpose to vaildate they you are not running a pirated copy or someone elses.