Prey video available - Page 3

Boinky · 05-21-2005, 01:12 AM

Hrm was I the only one who thought those flying things when he was in the lil space pod looked a lot like a special floating friend of ours.. *coughs octabrain *coughs. Over all very impressed. *takes a moment and looks at tower.. Yeah I'll be getting the gamne in about 2 years :-P

Lengis · 05-21-2005, 01:41 AM

Yes, I thought they looked like octobrains too

zwieback · 05-21-2005, 03:43 AM

Just to say this once:

THIS GAME DOESN'T LOOK LIKE DOOM3!!!!
GO HELL NAYSAYERS!!!

This game looks like an absolute kickass game for what i've seen so far. there are indeed much brighter environments in the game as in a normal doom3 game - and the portals are absolutly amazing. it's prey like i've became to love in 1998...
hands up again for 3dr and hh!

Weeeeee!

i can't wait

Ronald McDonald · 05-21-2005, 03:57 AM

The problem with the D3 comparison is that Doom3 gave dark sci-fi indoor shooters a bad name.
Prey will prove that dark sci-fi shooters can be innovative and fun

Spooger · 05-21-2005, 04:09 AM

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zwieback said:
Just to say this once:

THIS GAME DOESN'T LOOK LIKE DOOM3!!!!
GO HELL NAYSAYERS!!!

This game looks like an absolute kickass game for what i've seen so far. there are indeed much brighter environments in the game as in a normal doom3 game - and the portals are absolutly amazing. it's prey like i've became to love in 1998...
hands up again for 3dr and hh!

Weeeeee!

i can't wait

And what's even better is that I believe George said the environments are even brighter than what can be seen in the trailers.

Boinky · 05-21-2005, 11:47 AM

Actually parts of the trailer did have a little doom 3 nostalgia in them. I say nostalgia b/c I beat the game and never picked it up again. Linear gameplay is no fun :\. That is understandable though, seeing as how its made w/ the doom 3 engines. I wonder if the battle lord was put into prey just to appease Cerebus_e.

vivftp · 05-21-2005, 01:39 PM

Howdy Spooger... and update on this new video?

Spooger · 05-21-2005, 03:03 PM

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vivftp said:
Howdy Spooger... and update on this new video?

Well, it's gonna take some time mang. Last I talked wiff my friend, I believe he was headed home from E3, and from that point he actually needs to get the video onto his computer.

I'll keep everyone updated as best I can on it.

Cerberus_e · 05-21-2005, 03:04 PM

yes, the ETA is very long it seems

but Boinky, what does the doom 3 engine have to do with linearity? I can understand why you want a battlelord in prey, everyone wants that, but I don't understand how each game on the doom 3 engine is automatically linear according to you?

05-22-2005, 04:09 AM

Indeed a very impressive video!
Thank god the flashlight is no gameplay element here

Doom3 engine in it's full glory.
With Quake4, EnemyTerritory:Quake Wars and Prey being made, I am fully convinced that the Doom3 engine is capable of good looking nonpitchblack areas!
I am very excited about the story behind the shooting. If it will be as cool and dramatic as MaxPaynes or even better??

Scott Miller · 05-22-2005, 09:18 AM

Just a quick note on the video:

It was 100% gameplay. in other words, this game is like Half-Life, in that you are always playing the game from the main characters perspective, and there are no cut-scenes. I've seen a lot of people mistakenly think that the opening bar seen is like a cut-scene, but this is all playable. In the real game, for example, you'll be able to interact with the video game machines, the jukebox, characters (there will be other chars in this final game in the bar), and explore the area before the abduction event starts.

And from the bar scene the game doesn't immediately jump to the scene with the jumbo jet being abducted -- this was just us jumping around randomly in the demo.

Ivan · 05-22-2005, 09:21 AM

No cutscenes? Why?!

Micki! · 05-22-2005, 09:23 AM

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Scott Miller said:
Just a quick note on the video:

It was 100% gameplay. in other words, this game is like Half-Life, in that you are always playing the game from the main characters perspective, and there are no cut-scenes. I've seen a lot of people mistakenly think that the opening bar seen is like a cut-scene, but this is all playable. In the real game, for example, you'll be able to interact with the video game machines, the jukebox, characters (there will be other chars in this final game in the bar), and explore the area before the abduction event starts.

And from the bar scene the game doesn't immediately jump to the scene with the jumbo jet being abducted -- this was just us jumping around randomly in the demo.

Sounds cool...
But i suggest it won't be as interactive as DNF... right..?!

And about the 'playing with stuff before getting abducted' thing, i can already imageine that 'just' when i'm about to get a highscore in a pinball game... the UFO will destroy the whole place, and abduct the pinball machine...

"NOOO, That was my highest score ever..."

Scott Miller · 05-22-2005, 09:24 AM

Oh, one more thing -- this wasn't a video, even though me and everyone else refers to it as one! It was a demo playback script running on top of the engine in real-time. So the game was running as if being played, but it was the demo script doing the playing.

It was only on day two that we realized that a lot of people watching it thought it was a video, so we started to announce that it was a real-time demo script.

Cerberus_e · 05-22-2005, 09:24 AM

ivan: because of the immersivement I think.

Micki! · 05-22-2005, 09:25 AM

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Scott Miller said:
Oh, one more thing -- this wasn't a video, even though me and everyone else refers to it as one! It was a demo playback script running on top of the engine in real-time. So the game was running as if being played, but it was the demo script doing the playing.

It was only on day two that we realized that a lot of people watching it thought it was a video, so we started to announce that it was a real-time demo script.

Con...fu...sing...

Cerberus_e · 05-22-2005, 09:26 AM

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Micki! said:

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Scott Miller said:
Oh, one more thing -- this wasn't a video, even though me and everyone else refers to it as one! It was a demo playback script running on top of the engine in real-time. So the game was running as if being played, but it was the demo script doing the playing.

It was only on day two that we realized that a lot of people watching it thought it was a video, so we started to announce that it was a real-time demo script.

Con...fu...sing...

it's a demo, for example in duke3d, when you start the game, a demo is running too, not a video.
it's the same in prey, the demo script was running, just like in duke3d when you start the game (you don't play, the """computer""" plays, and follows a scripted traject)

Scott Miller · 05-22-2005, 09:27 AM

No cut-scenes, you ask? Well, because we want to keep the player immersed in the game itself, with all events happening from the player's perspective. In our opinion, it undermines the immersion factor if the camera suddenly leaves the player's eyes and shows the scene from a third-person perspective.

I think the Half-Life games have shown that third-person cut-scenes are simply unnecessary, as long as the in-game scripted events are well done.

Cerberus_e · 05-22-2005, 09:30 AM

but the problem in HL is that you miss cutscenes sometimes, even when you explore everything and take your time.
also, a cutscene is nice for relaxing a bit

Malgon · 05-22-2005, 09:30 AM

Well I am happy that the video was all gameplay, and that no major plot points were given away. Just a video of what we would be playing.

Cerberus_e · 05-22-2005, 09:31 AM

Scott: another question, do you plan on releasing the WHOLE demo in high quality? or just a few snippets like the fileshack video?

Ivan · 05-22-2005, 09:32 AM

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Scott Miller said:
No cut-scenes, you ask? Well, because we want to keep the player immersed in the game itself, with all events happening from the player's perspective. In our opinion, it undermines the immersion factor if the camera suddenly leaves the player's eyes and shows the scene from a third-person perspective.

I think the Half-Life games have shown that third-person cut-scenes are simply unnecessary, as long as the in-game scripted events are well done.

Heh okay I see your point of view, good choice, and thanks for answering my question.

Scott Miller · 05-22-2005, 09:56 AM

We'll make a video of the whole demo and release it. Can't give you a time frame, yet. It's something we'll be discussing this week. We definitely want to get a good quality video in everyone's hands.

Vexed · 05-22-2005, 09:58 AM

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Ivan said:
No cutscenes? Why?!

Cause prey has a pair of testicles. I mean, a real man stays in controll, riiiiiiiiight?

Ronald McDonald · 05-22-2005, 09:58 AM

Bink format plz

On another note:

Are you relieved that the Prey bashing has stopped after the nay-sayers saw the shaky cam video?

Vexed · 05-22-2005, 09:59 AM

As long as there's a easy way to watch it frame by frame, I'll be happy.

Cerberus_e · 05-22-2005, 10:08 AM

ronald: what's the big advantage of bink format then?
also, thanks scott for your reply

Ronald McDonald · 05-22-2005, 10:14 AM

It looks like it's actual ingame with a good bink format movie.

The 12 min gameplay movie in bink needs to be about 400-500 MB to actually look ingame enough.

edit: typo

tpz · 05-22-2005, 11:30 AM

Like it can't/won't when it's encoded with divx. Sure Bink is a nice codec, but I believe it's main purpose is that it can be easily integrated into a game. So, after buying a license (wheren't they going to use it for DNF?) for the codec, it seems an obvious choice to me, to also use it for releasing video material on the internet, like 3DR did with the 2001 DNF trailer.

Evil Angel · 05-22-2005, 02:29 PM

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Scott Miller said:
Just a quick note on the video:

It was 100% gameplay. in other words, this game is like Half-Life, in that you are always playing the game from the main characters perspective, and there are no cut-scenes. I've seen a lot of people mistakenly think that the opening bar seen is like a cut-scene, but this is all playable. In the real game, for example, you'll be able to interact with the video game machines, the jukebox, characters (there will be other chars in this final game in the bar), and explore the area before the abduction event starts.

And from the bar scene the game doesn't immediately jump to the scene with the jumbo jet being abducted -- this was just us jumping around randomly in the demo.

I was surprised the bar scene wasn't an intro video. In game you say? Now I'm even more impressed

Sounds like fun with all the interactive bits. Looking forward to the video.

Cerberus_e · 05-22-2005, 02:42 PM

looking forward to find a bug so I can hide somewhere in the bar without the alienship picking me up

Vexed · 05-22-2005, 02:51 PM

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Evil Angel said:

I was surprised the bar scene wasn't an intro video. In game you say? Now I'm even more impressed

Sounds like fun with all the interactive bits. Looking forward to the video.

Really? The way the camera moved didn't tip you off?

hell-angel · 05-23-2005, 12:55 AM

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Cerberus_e said:
ronald: what's the big advantage of bink format then?

The advantage of the bink format is that the codec and the player are shipped with the video, whence you don't need anything installed on you computer, the downside is the increase in size.
I prefer avi or wmv. wmv because it is smaller then most other formats and still give a good quality/size ratio. imo that is.

Antosa · 05-24-2005, 02:28 AM

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Ronald McDonald said:
It looks like it's actual ingame with a good bink format movie.

The 12 min gameplay movie in bink needs to be about 400-500 MB to actually look ingame enough.

edit: typo

I prefer 2-3 min but in high quality exemple wmv-HD.

lvlmaster · 05-27-2005, 08:31 PM

pc.ign.com

Eclipse · 05-27-2005, 08:54 PM

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lvlmaster said:
pc.ign.com

Awesome. Downloading now

Edit: Watched it, still convinced that this game is going to be awesome

Gryph · 05-27-2005, 09:04 PM

Woohoo! Thanks lvlmaster! Downloading the low quality quicktime. Hopefully somebody will be able to hook us up with the High quality.

Or I'll just wait for the near DVD quality on xStream.

Micki! · 05-28-2005, 02:19 AM

already posted my opinion in the other thread...

This is going to be one of the Coolest games of 2006... I think...

SyntaxN · 05-28-2005, 04:56 AM

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This is going to be one of the Coolest games of 2006... I think...

Don´t say that, what will happen when *it* will be released in 2006?

Rider · 05-28-2005, 05:08 AM

PreyHQ forums have a high-quality version somewhere...

05-22-2005, 04:09 AM	#90
fritzchen1 Guest	Re: Prey video available Indeed a very impressive video! Thank god the flashlight is no gameplay element here Doom3 engine in it's full glory. With Quake4, EnemyTerritory:Quake Wars and Prey being made, I am fully convinced that the Doom3 engine is capable of good looking nonpitchblack areas! I am very excited about the story behind the shooting. If it will be as cool and dramatic as MaxPaynes or even better??

05-22-2005, 09:18 AM	#91
Scott Miller 3D Realms Staff	Re: Prey video available Just a quick note on the video: It was 100% gameplay. in other words, this game is like Half-Life, in that you are always playing the game from the main characters perspective, and there are no cut-scenes. I've seen a lot of people mistakenly think that the opening bar seen is like a cut-scene, but this is all playable. In the real game, for example, you'll be able to interact with the video game machines, the jukebox, characters (there will be other chars in this final game in the bar), and explore the area before the abduction event starts. And from the bar scene the game doesn't immediately jump to the scene with the jumbo jet being abducted -- this was just us jumping around randomly in the demo.

05-22-2005, 09:24 AM	#94
Scott Miller 3D Realms Staff	Re: Prey video available Oh, one more thing -- this wasn't a video, even though me and everyone else refers to it as one! It was a demo playback script running on top of the engine in real-time. So the game was running as if being played, but it was the demo script doing the playing. It was only on day two that we realized that a lot of people watching it thought it was a video, so we started to announce that it was a real-time demo script.

05-22-2005, 09:27 AM	#98
Scott Miller 3D Realms Staff	Re: Prey video available No cut-scenes, you ask? Well, because we want to keep the player immersed in the game itself, with all events happening from the player's perspective. In our opinion, it undermines the immersion factor if the camera suddenly leaves the player's eyes and shows the scene from a third-person perspective. I think the Half-Life games have shown that third-person cut-scenes are simply unnecessary, as long as the in-game scripted events are well done.

05-22-2005, 09:56 AM	#103
Scott Miller 3D Realms Staff	Re: Prey video available We'll make a video of the whole demo and release it. Can't give you a time frame, yet. It's something we'll be discussing this week. We definitely want to get a good quality video in everyone's hands.

05-21-2005, 01:12 AM	#81
Boinky	Re: Prey video available Hrm was I the only one who thought those flying things when he was in the lil space pod looked a lot like a special floating friend of ours.. coughs octabrain coughs. Over all very impressed. *takes a moment and looks at tower.. Yeah I'll be getting the gamne in about 2 years :-P __________________ If you give a man a jingle, he'll jingle for a day. If you teach a man to jingle, he'll jingle all the way! I got a fever. And the only prescription, is more cowbell.

05-21-2005, 01:41 AM	#82
Lengis	Re: Prey video available Yes, I thought they looked like octobrains too

05-21-2005, 03:43 AM	#83
zwieback	Re: Prey video available Just to say this once: THIS GAME DOESN'T LOOK LIKE DOOM3!!!! GO HELL NAYSAYERS!!! This game looks like an absolute kickass game for what i've seen so far. there are indeed much brighter environments in the game as in a normal doom3 game - and the portals are absolutly amazing. it's prey like i've became to love in 1998... hands up again for 3dr and hh! Weeeeee! i can't wait __________________ They Live - "Brother, life's a b*tch, and she's back in heat!" <- put that in forever.. please :)

05-21-2005, 03:57 AM	#84
Ronald McDonald	Re: Prey video available The problem with the D3 comparison is that Doom3 gave dark sci-fi indoor shooters a bad name. Prey will prove that dark sci-fi shooters can be innovative and fun __________________ "Can't wait for shoreleave to get me some fcking poontang."* - Mr Garrison "Sikterlan, ipné!!!" - Sammy the Turk

05-21-2005, 11:47 AM	#86
Boinky	Re: Prey video available Actually parts of the trailer did have a little doom 3 nostalgia in them. I say nostalgia b/c I beat the game and never picked it up again. Linear gameplay is no fun :\. That is understandable though, seeing as how its made w/ the doom 3 engines. I wonder if the battle lord was put into prey just to appease Cerebus_e. __________________ If you give a man a jingle, he'll jingle for a day. If you teach a man to jingle, he'll jingle all the way! I got a fever. And the only prescription, is more cowbell.

05-21-2005, 01:39 PM	#87
vivftp	Re: Prey video available Howdy Spooger... and update on this new video?

05-21-2005, 03:04 PM	#89
Cerberus_e	Re: Prey video available yes, the ETA is very long it seems but Boinky, what does the doom 3 engine have to do with linearity? I can understand why you want a battlelord in prey, everyone wants that, but I don't understand how each game on the doom 3 engine is automatically linear according to you?

05-22-2005, 09:21 AM	#92
Ivan	Re: Prey video available No cutscenes? Why?!

05-22-2005, 09:24 AM	#95
Cerberus_e	Re: Prey video available ivan: because of the immersivement I think.

05-22-2005, 09:30 AM	#99
Cerberus_e	Re: Prey video available but the problem in HL is that you miss cutscenes sometimes, even when you explore everything and take your time. also, a cutscene is nice for relaxing a bit

05-22-2005, 09:30 AM	#100
Malgon	Re: Prey video available Well I am happy that the video was all gameplay, and that no major plot points were given away. Just a video of what we would be playing. __________________ -Most wanted games: Doom 4, Tomb Raider, Beyond Good and Evil 2

05-22-2005, 09:31 AM	#101
Cerberus_e	Re: Prey video available Scott: another question, do you plan on releasing the WHOLE demo in high quality? or just a few snippets like the fileshack video?

05-22-2005, 09:58 AM	#105
Ronald McDonald	Re: Prey video available Bink format plz On another note: Are you relieved that the Prey bashing has stopped after the nay-sayers saw the shaky cam video? __________________ "Can't wait for shoreleave to get me some fcking poontang."* - Mr Garrison "Sikterlan, ipné!!!" - Sammy the Turk

05-22-2005, 09:59 AM	#106
Vexed	Re: Prey video available As long as there's a easy way to watch it frame by frame, I'll be happy. __________________ "People are bastards, bastard coated bastards with bastard filling."

05-22-2005, 10:08 AM	#107
Cerberus_e	Re: Prey video available ronald: what's the big advantage of bink format then? also, thanks scott for your reply

05-22-2005, 10:14 AM	#108
Ronald McDonald	Re: Prey video available It looks like it's actual ingame with a good bink format movie. The 12 min gameplay movie in bink needs to be about 400-500 MB to actually look ingame enough. edit: typo __________________ "Can't wait for shoreleave to get me some fcking poontang."* - Mr Garrison "Sikterlan, ipné!!!" - Sammy the Turk

05-22-2005, 11:30 AM	#109
tpz	Re: Prey video available Like it can't/won't when it's encoded with divx. Sure Bink is a nice codec, but I believe it's main purpose is that it can be easily integrated into a game. So, after buying a license (wheren't they going to use it for DNF?) for the codec, it seems an obvious choice to me, to also use it for releasing video material on the internet, like 3DR did with the 2001 DNF trailer. __________________ "A Smith & Wesson beats four aces."

05-22-2005, 02:42 PM	#111
Cerberus_e	Re: Prey video available looking forward to find a bug so I can hide somewhere in the bar without the alienship picking me up

05-27-2005, 08:31 PM	#115
lvlmaster	Re: Prey video available pc.ign.com

05-27-2005, 09:04 PM	#117
Gryph	Re: Prey video available Woohoo! Thanks lvlmaster! Downloading the low quality quicktime. Hopefully somebody will be able to hook us up with the High quality. Or I'll just wait for the near DVD quality on xStream. __________________ 1Emulation: The Peoples' Emulation Site I pity the fool! - Mr. T

05-28-2005, 02:19 AM	#118
Micki!	Re: Prey video available already posted my opinion in the other thread... This is going to be one of the Coolest games of 2006... I think... __________________ A true genius does not need boundaries such as 'common sense'

05-28-2005, 05:08 AM	#120
Rider	Re: Prey video available PreyHQ forums have a high-quality version somewhere... __________________ Duke4.net - Duke's OTHER home. HeadbangersFM - The station that keeps your head banging! ------------- She's pretty, not "damn-she's-making-my-noodle-dance-samba"-pretty, but still very pretty... - Micki!