Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released! - Page 2

ProAsm · 09-10-2005, 05:44 AM

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Of course, if you built with MSVC people will want to shy away from your build.

Whys that ?
A Build is a Build - well most the time

JonoF · 09-10-2005, 05:48 AM

ProAsm uses Watcom, but the point TerminX is making is that MSVC compiles have a bug where the roaming sound effects of enemies don't play properly and you end up with an avalanche of pain sounds instead.

Jonathon

Geoffrey · 09-10-2005, 06:02 AM

Just played through it - the normal WD exe had an option when you started it that let you choose between sp and dm, but ofcourse you won't get that when you use jfsw. Reason I'm bringing this up is because some levels had rooms that were clearly layed out to have a boss fight of some sort, but they bosses were never there.

Apart from that weird stuff the levels were fantastic ofcourse. I've played three of them before though, I never knew they were from WD.

gila · 09-10-2005, 04:39 PM

amazing news!!! i'm leeching that addon from 3dgamers right now.

now if only could he find some more of sunstorm's blood/cryptic passage works (maybe there are some of the unfinished goodness).

wieder · 09-10-2005, 06:43 PM

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Cerberus_e said:

you spoiled the game

haha... well I was working under the assumption that most people who are interested in this would have nabbed the files when I released the ones I made a few months ago.

It's more like The Titanic. You know what's going to happen at the end... you just don't know what you're going to see happen when you get there! Muah!

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gila said:
now if only could he find some more of sunstorm's blood/cryptic passage works (maybe there are some of the unfinished goodness).

As far as I know all of that content was released with the actual addon.

Little Conqueror · 09-10-2005, 06:56 PM

Still trying to find my SW CD in this mess I have here. Damnit I want to PLAY it already.

How is it with the original SW.exe? VDMSound has never let me down, and though I like the JFSW port, I want to play the original WD first.

Ras · 09-10-2005, 08:53 PM

Strangely, I didn't need the CD. I just pointed it to my installation directory, and it worked.

Little Conqueror · 09-10-2005, 09:21 PM

I don't have SW installed on this computer, that's all.

wieder · 09-10-2005, 09:28 PM

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Little Conqueror said:
Still trying to find my SW CD in this mess I have here. Damnit I want to PLAY it already.

How is it with the original SW.exe? VDMSound has never let me down, and though I like the JFSW port, I want to play the original WD first.

For now I think you'll get the best "gameplay" results from the original. Some things won't work in JFSW just yet.

I just got done playing all the way through (though I don't think I found either of the secret levels). There are two primary problems I ran into:

- On the airplane level, when it does the ending sequence I crash if I'm in 16/32bpp mode. Going back down to 8bpp seemed to let me continue.

- Two levels where bosses should have been never spawned them. This was the offices level (right before the airplane level) and the rooftops level at the very end. You can cheat of course to progress (for the rooftops you just need to noclip into a couple of hidden cubby holes that would open up when you killed the boss to pick up the keys)... but you won't be able to kill the final boss at the end and have the game show the ending sequence.

I don't know if the ending sequence works in JFSW yet (see above) but I'm pretty sure it should work in normal SW.

A couple of the levels make heavy use of fog, so if you want to see how they are supposed to look you gotta run in 8bpp mode for now.

I didn't see either of the new anime girls Sunstorm supposedly added to it, but they might have been in secret areas or something.

As soon as someone is able to put together a 100% solid version of it that's easily distributable and playable with JFSW I'll gladly host it on my page.

Little Conqueror · 09-10-2005, 09:35 PM

Ah, fond memories of the airplane level. My favorite level in any game to date.

Ras · 09-10-2005, 10:15 PM

I just wondered, because the instructions or a post here said something about needing the CD.

Little Conqueror · 09-11-2005, 12:10 AM

Damnit. VDMSound isn't working properly, and I followed the steps at the BuildXP site to the letter. It works on my other computer like a charm, but I keep getting MASSIVE stuttering that makes the game unplayable.

Well... the first level looks very nice. I look forward to actually playing WD once I get VDMSound to cooperate.

Night Hacker · 09-11-2005, 01:42 AM

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Phayzon said:
In jfShadowWarrior, how do you include Wanton.dat? Because soundless DOS sw isnt all that good

Put together an older DOS only computer and install it on that as I have.

DOSBOX may run it, I haven't tried it yet.

Cerberus_e · 09-11-2005, 02:46 AM

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NotWieder3DR said:
For now I think you'll get the best "gameplay" results from the original. Some things won't work in JFSW just yet.

does everything work in the original? or are there also some of those bugs with bosses etc?
I can't play yet if I am not sure it's 100% working

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Little Conqueror said:
Ah, fond memories of the airplane level. My favorite level in any game to date.

memories? of a game that was never released?

TerminX · 09-11-2005, 02:47 AM

I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Charlie's maps were released separately.

Cerberus_e · 09-11-2005, 03:46 AM

ah yes, now I remember

Funduke · 09-11-2005, 04:55 AM

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NotWieder3DR said:
I didn't see either of the new anime girls Sunstorm supposedly added to it, but they might have been in secret areas or something.

I did a look at the art in editart.

There is only one anime girl replaced:
The girl in red swimsuit (Tiles 4594 - 4597)
wears now a bureau/secretary dress.

Nothing else.

I don't know, where she is in the levels.

Greetings
Funduke

gila · 09-11-2005, 05:46 AM

it's good but apart from what everyone said, i don't like the replacement of the classic ninja to the one in the suit (hard to tell the palette swaps, lol) and that old guy with the head. and it's a bit overkill on the items, too much!!!

and what's with the bosses?

hey charlie, please tell more about such addons development, like cryptic passage, and stuff.

Phayzon · 09-11-2005, 06:26 AM

Use the Ninja Model then.

Micki! · 09-11-2005, 08:21 AM

This is some GREAT news... Just sad that i don't have a copy of Shadow Warrior... (neither have i ever played it once

) I hope i'll find it sometime... Then i'll get this add-on pack as soon as i get it...

Another Duke Fan · 09-11-2005, 11:08 AM

You don`t know what you are missing. BTW, the truth is on on the JFSW thread. Play it now!

Little Conqueror · 09-11-2005, 11:37 AM

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Night Hacker said:

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Phayzon said:
In jfShadowWarrior, how do you include Wanton.dat? Because soundless DOS sw isnt all that good

Put together an older DOS only computer and install it on that as I have.

DOSBOX may run it, I haven't tried it yet.

Dosbox hasn't EVER run anything over 10 FPS for me, no matter what settings I use.

Cerberus_e · 09-11-2005, 11:47 AM

what's your CPU?

Little Conqueror · 09-11-2005, 11:52 AM

P4 2.8 ghz, 512 MB RAM, ATI Radeon 9600.

Or on my other computer, a P4 1.8 ghz, 256 MB RAM, 32 MB onboard graphics card.

And I'm not just talking about Shadow Warrior - even Commander Keen 1, Wolf 3-D, or anything else.

Cerberus_e · 09-11-2005, 12:11 PM

well, wolfenstein 3D runs fast on my 2.6 ghz PC, but i don't think it's your 1.8

Little Conqueror · 09-11-2005, 12:43 PM

There's probably some hidden setting somewhere that I haven't found.

I'd rather get it to work with VDMS, though, but it's even slower there on this computer. (It'll most likely work on my other computer.)

Phayzon · 09-11-2005, 02:24 PM

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Little Conqueror said:
There's probably some hidden setting somewhere that I haven't found.

I'd rather get it to work with VDMS, though, but it's even slower there on this computer. (It'll most likely work on my other computer.)

Try getting D-fend to toy around with DosBox.

Andrew T. · 09-11-2005, 02:38 PM

I installed the Wanton Destruction add-on, and am enjoying it very much.

One question: How do I get to the red keycard on the "Skyline" level?

jbailey · 09-11-2005, 03:48 PM

Try running cli2nop.exe on your original sw.exe &
wantan.dat. the command is:

cli2nop.exe -p sw.exe

&

cli2nop.exe -p wantan.dat

both should report '60 occurrances'. Try running sw again,
hopefully your stutter will be gone, see attachment...

necroslut · 09-11-2005, 04:42 PM

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Andrew T. said:
I installed the Wanton Destruction add-on, and am enjoying it very much.

One question: How do I get to the red keycard on the "Skyline" level?

I don't think you can without cheating. A boss is supposed to appear there, but it never shows up.

Ras · 09-11-2005, 08:54 PM

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I just got done playing all the way through (though I don't think I found either of the secret levels). There are two primary problems I ran into:

I just found the level ending button for one, but I haven't tried it yet.

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler">It's in the fifth level. After the window you jump out of to get the blue keycard, you go down an elevator. You go down some stairs and through a door, and there's a vent straight ahead. Inside the vent, there's a square on the wall that you can jump through. Inside of that is the secret level button, with a neat looking boat waiting. The level is called The Docks.</td></tr></table>

Unfortunately, I just pushed the button and it froze up at the loading screen. It's freezing in 8bit also.

Cerberus_e · 09-12-2005, 10:03 AM

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necroslut said:

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Andrew T. said:
I installed the Wanton Destruction add-on, and am enjoying it very much.

One question: How do I get to the red keycard on the "Skyline" level?

I don't think you can without cheating. A boss is supposed to appear there, but it never shows up.

does that only happen in the jonof port?

Carger2000 · 09-12-2005, 10:32 AM

SUH-WEET! The SW rage now fullly kicks off. Im not really feeling like doing stuff but I think its time for a couple of things to get done. (Like Sw-dojo and some map re-releases). Onto work..

Jaapio · 09-12-2005, 01:46 PM

Does anyone have the extracted files from the installer couse it is not compatible with winXP (which im running)?

TerminX · 09-12-2005, 02:32 PM

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Jaapio said:
Does anyone have the extracted files from the installer couse it is not compatible with winXP (which im running)?

Bull. Installs on XP just fine. If you really want them, I think you can open the thing in any archive utility which supports zips though.

Little Conqueror · 09-12-2005, 03:18 PM

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jbailey said:
Try running cli2nop.exe on your original sw.exe &
wantan.dat. the command is:

cli2nop.exe -p sw.exe

&

cli2nop.exe -p wantan.dat

both should report '60 occurrances'. Try running sw again,
hopefully your stutter will be gone, see attachment...

THANK YOU! That works wonders!

Ras · 09-12-2005, 03:25 PM

Follow up: using ProAsm's stripped down version, I was able to access the secret level without freezing up.

Jaapio · 09-13-2005, 03:31 AM

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TerminX said:

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Jaapio said:
Does anyone have the extracted files from the installer couse it is not compatible with winXP (which im running)?

Bull. Installs on XP just fine. If you really want them, I think you can open the thing in any archive utility which supports zips though.

I can open the zip file but the installer in the zip file is not compatible.

TerminX · 09-13-2005, 05:05 AM

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Jaapio said:

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TerminX said:

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Jaapio said:
Does anyone have the extracted files from the installer couse it is not compatible with winXP (which im running)?

Bull. Installs on XP just fine. If you really want them, I think you can open the thing in any archive utility which supports zips though.

I can open the zip file but the installer in the zip file is not compatible.

Yes it is. Anyways, you missed the point: open the exe using your favorite zip handling application and extract the files. It's not rocket science. Also, I'm going to have to ask that you stop spreading disinformation (like saying the installer doesn't work on XP -- it works just fine).

Joe Siegler · 09-13-2005, 08:41 AM

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I can open the zip file but the installer in the zip file is not compatible.

I have to agree with TX, it most certainly does work. I'm the one that put the archive together you downloaded. My test machine for this before I released it was Windows XP. It absolutely most definitely works there.

09-10-2005, 05:48 AM	#42
JonoF	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released ProAsm uses Watcom, but the point TerminX is making is that MSVC compiles have a bug where the roaming sound effects of enemies don't play properly and you end up with an avalanche of pain sounds instead. Jonathon

09-10-2005, 06:02 AM	#43
Geoffrey	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released Just played through it - the normal WD exe had an option when you started it that let you choose between sp and dm, but ofcourse you won't get that when you use jfsw. Reason I'm bringing this up is because some levels had rooms that were clearly layed out to have a boss fight of some sort, but they bosses were never there. Apart from that weird stuff the levels were fantastic ofcourse. I've played three of them before though, I never knew they were from WD. __________________ "if we fill survival with particles then we can compete with modern games" - James

09-10-2005, 04:39 PM	#44
gila	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released amazing news!!! i'm leeching that addon from 3dgamers right now. now if only could he find some more of sunstorm's blood/cryptic passage works (maybe there are some of the unfinished goodness).

09-10-2005, 06:56 PM	#46
Little Conqueror	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released Still trying to find my SW CD in this mess I have here. Damnit I want to PLAY it already. How is it with the original SW.exe? VDMSound has never let me down, and though I like the JFSW port, I want to play the original WD first. __________________ If wishes were fishes, we'd smell like ladies' underwear. "If you join the good fight, you get 72 domain names when you die." -- Wamplet

09-10-2005, 08:53 PM	#47
Ras	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released Strangely, I didn't need the CD. I just pointed it to my installation directory, and it worked.

09-10-2005, 09:21 PM	#48
Little Conqueror	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released I don't have SW installed on this computer, that's all. __________________ If wishes were fishes, we'd smell like ladies' underwear. "If you join the good fight, you get 72 domain names when you die." -- Wamplet

09-10-2005, 09:35 PM	#50
Little Conqueror	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released Ah, fond memories of the airplane level. My favorite level in any game to date. __________________ If wishes were fishes, we'd smell like ladies' underwear. "If you join the good fight, you get 72 domain names when you die." -- Wamplet

09-10-2005, 10:15 PM	#51
Ras	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released I just wondered, because the instructions or a post here said something about needing the CD.

09-11-2005, 12:10 AM	#52
Little Conqueror	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released Damnit. VDMSound isn't working properly, and I followed the steps at the BuildXP site to the letter. It works on my other computer like a charm, but I keep getting MASSIVE stuttering that makes the game unplayable. Well... the first level looks very nice. I look forward to actually playing WD once I get VDMSound to cooperate. __________________ If wishes were fishes, we'd smell like ladies' underwear. "If you join the good fight, you get 72 domain names when you die." -- Wamplet

09-11-2005, 02:47 AM	#55
TerminX	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Charlie's maps were released separately. __________________ EDuke32 \| Duke4.net forums, the largest Duke Nukem 3D community on the Internet Visit #eduke32 on irc.freenode.net!

09-11-2005, 03:46 AM	#56
Cerberus_e	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released ah yes, now I remember

09-11-2005, 05:46 AM	#58
gila	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released it's good but apart from what everyone said, i don't like the replacement of the classic ninja to the one in the suit (hard to tell the palette swaps, lol) and that old guy with the head. and it's a bit overkill on the items, too much!!! and what's with the bosses? hey charlie, please tell more about such addons development, like cryptic passage, and stuff.

09-11-2005, 06:26 AM	#59
Phayzon	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released Use the Ninja Model then. __________________ I made the first post on the VB! "So I guess the news here is that not only is Australia the last to get anything new in regard to videogames, they're also the first to get them taken away." - LeadBullet "We're part-time internet superheros." - Hudson

09-11-2005, 08:21 AM	#60
Micki!	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released This is some GREAT news... Just sad that i don't have a copy of Shadow Warrior... (neither have i ever played it once ) I hope i'll find it sometime... Then i'll get this add-on pack as soon as i get it... __________________ A true genius does not need boundaries such as 'common sense'

09-11-2005, 11:08 AM	#61
Another Duke Fan	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released You don`t know what you are missing. BTW, the truth is on on the JFSW thread. Play it now! __________________ アーティスト

09-11-2005, 11:47 AM	#63
Cerberus_e	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released what's your CPU?

09-11-2005, 11:52 AM	#64
Little Conqueror	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released P4 2.8 ghz, 512 MB RAM, ATI Radeon 9600. Or on my other computer, a P4 1.8 ghz, 256 MB RAM, 32 MB onboard graphics card. And I'm not just talking about Shadow Warrior - even Commander Keen 1, Wolf 3-D, or anything else. __________________ If wishes were fishes, we'd smell like ladies' underwear. "If you join the good fight, you get 72 domain names when you die." -- Wamplet

09-11-2005, 12:11 PM	#65
Cerberus_e	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released well, wolfenstein 3D runs fast on my 2.6 ghz PC, but i don't think it's your 1.8

09-11-2005, 12:43 PM	#66
Little Conqueror	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released There's probably some hidden setting somewhere that I haven't found. I'd rather get it to work with VDMS, though, but it's even slower there on this computer. (It'll most likely work on my other computer.) __________________ If wishes were fishes, we'd smell like ladies' underwear. "If you join the good fight, you get 72 domain names when you die." -- Wamplet

09-11-2005, 02:38 PM	#68
Andrew T.	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released I installed the Wanton Destruction add-on, and am enjoying it very much. One question: How do I get to the red keycard on the "Skyline" level?

09-12-2005, 10:32 AM	#73
Carger2000	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released SUH-WEET! The SW rage now fullly kicks off. Im not really feeling like doing stuff but I think its time for a couple of things to get done. (Like Sw-dojo and some map re-releases). Onto work.. __________________ Signature? No not now.

09-12-2005, 01:46 PM	#74
Jaapio	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released! Does anyone have the extracted files from the installer couse it is not compatible with winXP (which im running)? __________________ ...

09-12-2005, 03:25 PM	#77
Ras	Re: Wanton Destruction for Shadow Warrior Released Follow up: using ProAsm's stripped down version, I was able to access the secret level without freezing up.