3D Realms Online Store overhaul - Page 3

NY00123 · 06-19-2009, 05:58 AM

Now I realize. Of course it's not a DOS game; BOS is Balls of Steels after all

LAW · 06-20-2009, 10:28 AM

I might buy Wolf3D, a game made by 3DRealms

Joe Siegler · 06-20-2009, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAW

I might buy Wolf3D, a game made by 3DRealms

Huh? Wolf3D wasn't made by Apogee/3DR.

LAW · 06-20-2009, 11:05 AM

Come on, you sell it so it's yours

Phayzon · 06-20-2009, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAW

Come on, you sell it so it's yours

By that logic, Gears of War, Halo, Starcraft, Call of Duty, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and any other game sold in BestBuy was made by them.

Mroblivious1bmf · 06-20-2009, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

These just "run". There's nothing you have to do as such.

Except of course if you changed the default install directory. If you tried to install inside C:\Program Files, it won't work on Vista. Forget it. Vista doesn't let you do that.

i install stuff to my program files dir all the time

i'm on vista64

Code:

C:\Program Files>dir /w
 Volume in drive C is Vista64
 Volume Serial Number is C87A-433F

 Directory of C:\Program Files

[.]                     [..]                    [ASUS]
[ATKGFNEX]              [Common Files]          [Dolby]
[Internet Explorer]     [Microsoft Games]       [Microsoft Office]
[Movie Maker]           [MSBuild]               [P4G]
[RealVNC]               [Reference Assemblies]  [Symantec]
[Synaptics]             [Ventrilo]              [WINAMP]
[Windows Calendar]      [Windows Collaboration] [Windows Defender]
[Windows Journal]       [Windows Mail]          [Windows Media Player]
[Windows NT]            [Windows Photo Gallery] [Windows Sidebar]

Rellik66 · 06-20-2009, 12:36 PM

try looking in "C:\Program Files (x86)" in Vista64 and Win 7(64)

Jeffpiatt · 06-20-2009, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAW

Come on, you sell it so it's yours

Apogee was id's publisher they do not own wolf 3d or commander keen. apogee owns very few ip's.

LAW · 06-21-2009, 05:25 AM

So why is it sold on 3DRealms like it was their game?

Kalki · 06-21-2009, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAW

So why is it sold on 3DRealms like it was their game?

Because they are the publishers.

Activision sells Quake 3 & Doom 3 which are also developed by id software. Same deal.

LAW · 06-21-2009, 09:03 AM

I totally understand. But I've always had the feeling that 3DRealms considers Wolf3D as their own game... I've even read (probably on these forums) that someone from 3DR was the main brain behind Wolf3D, which isn't true IMO.

[st]chris · 06-21-2009, 09:11 AM

If the games run too fast on your computer (or don't run at all - even if DosBox is used) you may try "VDMSound" which is made to make old games run on new systems.

VDMSound 2.1.0
http://surfnet.dl.sourceforge.net/so...Sound2.1.0.zip

Rellik66 · 06-21-2009, 12:11 PM

*VDMsound won't help on 64bit systems since there is no 16 bit support

*Correct me if i'm wrong, but I don't think VDMsound would work with Balls of Steel since it's not a dos game, which most of this discussion has centered around

Also, the majority of the games use a default DOSbox config with minor tweaks, which should be enough, and Joe has tested tested them for sure.

Which reminds me, is there a solution in place for the Crystal Caves overscan border issue? discussed here

Joe Siegler · 06-22-2009, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mroblivious1bmf

i install stuff to my program files dir all the time

Don't install the DOSBox Apogee/3DR game installs there. THEY WON'T WORK.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAW

I totally understand. But I've always had the feeling that 3DRealms considers Wolf3D as their own game... I've even read (probably on these forums) that someone from 3DR was the main brain behind Wolf3D, which isn't true IMO.

No. You are wrong about that.

Joe Siegler · 07-09-2009, 11:50 AM

A note about Shadow Warrior.

The file from the registered store has been updated to include the CD Audio, via ogg compressed files. If you buy the game now, you will get it with the CD Audio enabled.

If you bought Shadow Warrior from our store between June 5 and July 9, 2009, there's an update file for you. Download this, and install it to the same directory the game is installed to, and you'll get the CD audio. Note: It will overwrite your DOSBox config file, so if you've made any sort of changes to the settings, you'll need to back up yours first before installing this.

There you go. Some more work on this project after I've been out of work now for 6 weeks.

Jeffpiatt · 07-09-2009, 03:51 PM

i wonder if you can get paid as a freelance for this work.

PimPamPet · 07-09-2009, 06:26 PM

Joe... Did you know you know you are one hell of an awesome person?

You are, you know. Thanks.

Phayzon · 07-09-2009, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

A note about Shadow Warrior.

The file from the registered store has been updated to include the CD Audio, via ogg compressed files. If you buy the game now, you will get it with the CD Audio enabled.

If you bought Shadow Warrior from our store between June 5 and July 9, 2009, there's an update file for you. Download this, and install it to the same directory the game is installed to, and you'll get the CD audio. Note: It will overwrite your DOSBox config file, so if you've made any sort of changes to the settings, you'll need to back up yours first before installing this.

There you go. Some more work on this project after I've been out of work now for 6 weeks.

Thank you, Joe! You're an awesome guy!

Joe Siegler · 07-09-2009, 08:12 PM

Thank Qbix from DOSBox too. He helped a lot.

avsky · 07-13-2009, 05:52 PM

If anyone happens to solve the speed problem with BOS on Vista 32bit, please share! Setting up a virtual machine is a bit of a pain.

Not sure why but setting compatibility to Win95 worked.. once. Then setting it to Win2k worked, once. Makes me want to revert back to XP just for the sake of this game!

Joe Siegler · 07-14-2009, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avsky

If anyone happens to solve the speed problem with BOS on Vista 32bit, please share! Setting up a virtual machine is a bit of a pain.

Not sure why but setting compatibility to Win95 worked.. once. Then setting it to Win2k worked, once. Makes me want to revert back to XP just for the sake of this game!

Works fine on my Vista 32bit machine at home. No special anything.

Exitus · 07-20-2009, 01:22 PM

Just downloaded Ultimate ROTT.

I was wondering if there are any user levels among the "tons and tons" of user stuff, cause I can't find any user levels in the directory

shiranui · 07-27-2009, 05:10 AM

Excellent work, Joseph!

Joe Siegler · 07-27-2009, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exitus

I was wondering if there are any user levels among the "tons and tons" of user stuff, cause I can't find any user levels in the directory

I didn't put user levels in there. There's user LEVEL EDITORS, but not levels themselves.

Exitus · 07-27-2009, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

I didn't put user levels in there. There's user LEVEL EDITORS, but not levels themselves.

Joe, in your opinion, what was the best user level and/or level pack ever made? And where could I get it?

Joe Siegler · 07-28-2009, 01:54 PM

I don't have an opinion on that.

marzsyndrome · 08-10-2009, 05:15 AM

Little question, Joe.

Did you base your Duke3D download build on the GOG.com one, or start from scratch with original CD files?

Just I purchased the GOG version recently and noticed their patched DUKE3D.EXE matched the checksum of a cracked exe made from using a pretty common No-CD crack (not to mention they included a blank CDROM.INI), lol. So is the 3DR version exactly the same in this case? Having already a CD original and the GOG download, I'm not very inclined to also purchase 3DR's build just to find this out for myself.

Thanks!

Joe Siegler · 08-10-2009, 07:50 AM

I really don't remember what I did right now to be honest.

marzsyndrome · 08-10-2009, 08:26 AM

I see. Well, hopefully someone here who did purchase the 3DR download can confirm for me.

Qbix · 08-10-2009, 08:59 AM

md5sum of duke3d.exe

Code:

3b74fa59466c319535c57169b18b2140  DUKE3D.EXE

marzsyndrome · 08-10-2009, 11:34 AM

Yeah, matches the GOG one, thought so. Thanks for the tip, Qbix.

Part of me did wonder whether it would be uniquely cracked from scratch when re-released, say to possibly get rid of the CDROM.INI dependency. There's a cracked EXE for Death Rally which does just that.

joey007 · 08-10-2009, 11:51 AM

I did wonder too.

Jeffpiatt · 08-10-2009, 09:07 PM

it is not really a crack if the publisher alters the file. there had to be two versions of the exe a drmed version and a non drm copy.

marzsyndrome · 08-16-2009, 05:09 PM

Is it just me or does the Store link now redirect to GoDaddy?

PimPamPet · 08-16-2009, 07:44 PM

You're right. Strange.

Jeffpiatt · 08-16-2009, 08:59 PM

to buy the games go to the profile pages under the games link and click the buy now icon it goes directly to the stores checkout page. only the main page is down.

marzsyndrome · 08-17-2009, 08:46 AM

Thanks for the suggestion. I wasn't actually intending to buy anything at this moment in time, but I wanted to toss a reminder that the main promoted link wasn't acting the way it's supposed to be, to those who are interested.

BTW, if anyone's interested also, you can find an alternate patched EXE for Death Rally on this page (scroll to the bottom and look towards the top of the screen to spot it). Aside from cracking the CD check, this EXE has a couple more advantages over the more basic crack in existence...

1) The CDROM.INI dependency is eliminated so that you don't even need the file,
2) You can start or continue a game much more "cleanly" (in other words, no "Insert CD-ROM" window flashing briefly for a nanosecond accompanied by a honking horn effect).

And last but not least..... if anyone would prefer a full lossless Shadow Warrior soundtrack to use with the game, I could create a BIN/CUE containing the music only (ripped from an original SW CD), write a replacement DOSBox config to use with it, zip it and up it somewhere if there's demand for it. Only question is: would Mr Siegler (and co?) be cool with this?

Jeffpiatt · 08-17-2009, 12:17 PM

personally i want gog.com to get shadow warrior and give us a download sound track option. also i really hope that the wolfenstine 3d hint book goes back up for sale i have been waiting to get one.

marzsyndrome · 08-17-2009, 01:38 PM

Maybe if it did get onto GOG the 3DR store might drop its own price in response. I don't know who decided on SW being $10 compared to almost everything else being $6, nor do I understand the reasoning behind it. Is it based on how recent a game is? Like games in '97 or later are pricier?

PimPamPet · 08-18-2009, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffpiatt

i really hope that the wolfenstine 3d hint book goes back up for sale i have been waiting to get one.

It might be a good idea to include a PDF of this with the Wolf 3D download, as it's quite interesting and very helpful with the less linear levels of the game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by marzsyndrome

I don't know who decided on SW being $10 compared to almost everything else being $6, nor do I understand the reasoning behind it. Is it based on how recent a game is? Like games in '97 or later are pricier?

This is strange indeed, as Duke 3D (a clearly superior title) is only 5,99.

07-09-2009, 11:50 AM	#95
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul A note about Shadow Warrior. The file from the registered store has been updated to include the CD Audio, via ogg compressed files. If you buy the game now, you will get it with the CD Audio enabled. If you bought Shadow Warrior from our store between June 5 and July 9, 2009, there's an update file for you. Download this, and install it to the same directory the game is installed to, and you'll get the CD audio. Note: It will overwrite your DOSBox config file, so if you've made any sort of changes to the settings, you'll need to back up yours first before installing this. There you go. Some more work on this project after I've been out of work now for 6 weeks. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

07-09-2009, 08:12 PM	#99
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul Thank Qbix from DOSBox too. He helped a lot. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

07-28-2009, 01:54 PM	#106
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul I don't have an opinion on that. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

08-10-2009, 07:50 AM	#108
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul I really don't remember what I did right now to be honest. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

08-10-2009, 08:59 AM	#110
Qbix DOSBox Advisor	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul md5sum of duke3d.exe Code: 3b74fa59466c319535c57169b18b2140 DUKE3D.EXE

06-19-2009, 05:58 AM	#81
NY00123	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul Now I realize. Of course it's not a DOS game; BOS is Balls of Steels after all

06-20-2009, 10:28 AM	#82
LAW	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul I might buy Wolf3D, a game made by 3DRealms

06-20-2009, 11:05 AM	#84
LAW	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul Come on, you sell it so it's yours

06-20-2009, 12:36 PM	#87
Rellik66	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul try looking in "C:\Program Files (x86)" in Vista64 and Win 7(64)

06-21-2009, 05:25 AM	#89
LAW	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul So why is it sold on 3DRealms like it was their game?

06-21-2009, 09:03 AM	#91
LAW	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul I totally understand. But I've always had the feeling that 3DRealms considers Wolf3D as their own game... I've even read (probably on these forums) that someone from 3DR was the main brain behind Wolf3D, which isn't true IMO.

06-21-2009, 09:11 AM	#92
[st]chris	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul If the games run too fast on your computer (or don't run at all - even if DosBox is used) you may try "VDMSound" which is made to make old games run on new systems. VDMSound 2.1.0 http://surfnet.dl.sourceforge.net/so...Sound2.1.0.zip Last edited by [st]chris; 06-21-2009 at 09:21 AM. Reason: forgot downloadlink for VDMS

06-21-2009, 12:11 PM	#93
Rellik66	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul VDMsound won't help on 64bit systems since there is no 16 bit support Correct me if i'm wrong, but I don't think VDMsound would work with Balls of Steel since it's not a dos game, which most of this discussion has centered around Also, the majority of the games use a default DOSbox config with minor tweaks, which should be enough, and Joe has tested tested them for sure. Which reminds me, is there a solution in place for the Crystal Caves overscan border issue? discussed here

07-09-2009, 03:51 PM	#96
Jeffpiatt	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul i wonder if you can get paid as a freelance for this work.

07-09-2009, 06:26 PM	#97
PimPamPet	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul Joe... Did you know you know you are one hell of an awesome person? You are, you know. Thanks.

07-13-2009, 05:52 PM	#100
avsky	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul If anyone happens to solve the speed problem with BOS on Vista 32bit, please share! Setting up a virtual machine is a bit of a pain. Not sure why but setting compatibility to Win95 worked.. once. Then setting it to Win2k worked, once. Makes me want to revert back to XP just for the sake of this game!

07-20-2009, 01:22 PM	#102
Exitus	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul Just downloaded Ultimate ROTT. I was wondering if there are any user levels among the "tons and tons" of user stuff, cause I can't find any user levels in the directory

07-27-2009, 05:10 AM	#103
shiranui	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul Excellent work, Joseph! __________________ wibble

08-10-2009, 05:15 AM	#107
marzsyndrome	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul Little question, Joe. Did you base your Duke3D download build on the GOG.com one, or start from scratch with original CD files? Just I purchased the GOG version recently and noticed their patched DUKE3D.EXE matched the checksum of a cracked exe made from using a pretty common No-CD crack (not to mention they included a blank CDROM.INI), lol. So is the 3DR version exactly the same in this case? Having already a CD original and the GOG download, I'm not very inclined to also purchase 3DR's build just to find this out for myself. Thanks!

08-10-2009, 08:26 AM	#109
marzsyndrome	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul I see. Well, hopefully someone here who did purchase the 3DR download can confirm for me.

08-10-2009, 11:34 AM	#111
marzsyndrome	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul Yeah, matches the GOG one, thought so. Thanks for the tip, Qbix. Part of me did wonder whether it would be uniquely cracked from scratch when re-released, say to possibly get rid of the CDROM.INI dependency. There's a cracked EXE for Death Rally which does just that.

08-10-2009, 11:51 AM	#112
joey007	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul I did wonder too. __________________ THE sig of useless words. Panda bears are the least racist mammal theyre white, black, and Asian! :p

08-10-2009, 09:07 PM	#113
Jeffpiatt	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul it is not really a crack if the publisher alters the file. there had to be two versions of the exe a drmed version and a non drm copy. __________________ junk for sale http://raptr.com/jeffpiatt

08-16-2009, 05:09 PM	#114
marzsyndrome	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul Is it just me or does the Store link now redirect to GoDaddy?

08-16-2009, 07:44 PM	#115
PimPamPet	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul You're right. Strange.

08-16-2009, 08:59 PM	#116
Jeffpiatt	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul to buy the games go to the profile pages under the games link and click the buy now icon it goes directly to the stores checkout page. only the main page is down. __________________ junk for sale http://raptr.com/jeffpiatt

08-17-2009, 08:46 AM	#117
marzsyndrome	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul Thanks for the suggestion. I wasn't actually intending to buy anything at this moment in time, but I wanted to toss a reminder that the main promoted link wasn't acting the way it's supposed to be, to those who are interested. BTW, if anyone's interested also, you can find an alternate patched EXE for Death Rally on this page (scroll to the bottom and look towards the top of the screen to spot it). Aside from cracking the CD check, this EXE has a couple more advantages over the more basic crack in existence... 1) The CDROM.INI dependency is eliminated so that you don't even need the file, 2) You can start or continue a game much more "cleanly" (in other words, no "Insert CD-ROM" window flashing briefly for a nanosecond accompanied by a honking horn effect). And last but not least..... if anyone would prefer a full lossless Shadow Warrior soundtrack to use with the game, I could create a BIN/CUE containing the music only (ripped from an original SW CD), write a replacement DOSBox config to use with it, zip it and up it somewhere if there's demand for it. Only question is: would Mr Siegler (and co?) be cool with this?

08-17-2009, 12:17 PM	#118
Jeffpiatt	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul personally i want gog.com to get shadow warrior and give us a download sound track option. also i really hope that the wolfenstine 3d hint book goes back up for sale i have been waiting to get one. __________________ junk for sale http://raptr.com/jeffpiatt

08-17-2009, 01:38 PM	#119
marzsyndrome	Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul Maybe if it did get onto GOG the 3DR store might drop its own price in response. I don't know who decided on SW being $10 compared to almost everything else being $6, nor do I understand the reasoning behind it. Is it based on how recent a game is? Like games in '97 or later are pricier?