EDuke32 snapshot thread

[TerminX]

Sure, if you use the def commands to turn external textures into 8-bit art tiles.

[NightFright]

This is a really nice new feature, improving 2D editing mode quite a bit. TerminX is still full of surprises.

[DeeperThought]

The new snapshot crashes whenever I try to start a game (it doesn't matter what map or mod, whether I use HRP, etc.) I'm using Vista. Anyone else have this problem? (the crashing, not the "problem" of using Vista ).

[Spiker]

This is why I never update to the latest versions instantly

[ilovefoxes]

2D texturized, pretty impressive, huh?

Just one bug I found, floor aligned flat sprites are displayed;

[Usurper]

I'd call that a feature rather than a bug.

[ilovefoxes]

Sorry, I write it wrong. >_< Ceiling (not floor) aligned flat sprites. =P

[Jamesfff]

Just checked out the textured 2D mode in the latest Mapster32 Snapshot - it lokks good , but mapster crashes on me when I try to zoom while in textured 3d mode! Why is that?

[TerminX]

It shouldn't crash. Need to know resolution, map, coordinates on map at time of crash, et cetera.

[Another Duke Fan]

TerminX, would it be possible to expand the choice under the menu "Select An Episode"? The reason I am asking is because I am using the Kill-A-Ton grp, which has the Duke It Out in DC integrated and what I am currently getting to chose from under this menu could be seen in the attached pic, e.g. the Lunar Apocalypse episode is not being listed at all. Thank you man!

[Hendricks266]

I'm having a problem. This wall will not unmask:

cariberror1.png

I've checked, and the wall cstat is indeed 0.
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Another Duke Fan:
You can have 7 episodes. However, if you're trying to integrate Duke D.C., keep in mind that the cutscene will not work unless it is episode 3.

[Another Duke Fan]

Originally Posted by Hendricks266

Another Duke Fan:
You can have 7 episodes. However, if you're trying to integrate Duke D.C., keep in mind that the cutscene will not work unless it is episode 3.

I am not trying to integrate anything. The Kill-A-Ton grp contains Duke D.C. and I am guessing, because of that, the Lunar Apocalypse episode does not appear in the episode choice menu. Would be cool if this can be fixed. If not, well, I can live with it as I have lived with it until now.

[TerminX]

Recopy duke3d.grp from your CD and delete all CON files in your directory.

New snapshot: http://wiki.eduke32.com/stuff/eduke32_current.zip

[Another Duke Fan]

Originally Posted by TerminX

Recopy duke3d.grp from your CD and delete all CON files in your directory.

New snapshot: http://wiki.eduke32.com/stuff/eduke32_current.zip

This sort of helped. I replaced the USER.CON with the original from the CD and it now shows all DN3D episodes, though without the Duke It Out in DC in the menu. If I delete either the USER, or the DEF cons there are many failures and the game can not run. If I delete the GAME con only, it runs fine, but still, the Lunar Apocalyse episode is missing in the menu. Thanks.

[TerminX]

You seem to have missed the first step of my instructions. Here, let me spell it out for you in a different way, as plain as can be: delete your pirated copy of Duke3D and reinstall from an original CD.

[NightFright]

In order to make the obvious issue even more obvious:
EDuke32 is supposed to require "duke3d.grp" file only, for it contains all con files you need. If you need more files than that to run it, you are automatically outing yourself as a user of a modified groupfile (containing less cons than needed). This makes it highly likely (if not 100% certain) you are using pirated software.

[The Commander]

Speaking of all this .grp files and Eduke32 knowing which it is, I won't run into any troubles when I completly strip and make my own .grp for Duke Theft Auto so that it is a stand alone mod. (not needing duke art,sounds ect or any duke3d.grp)

[NightFright]

I don't know how far you have to go before you can use a deconstructed duke3d.grp legally, but removing art & sounds is the least you have to do. The con files themselves are no problem, I guess, for they are edited in other mods, anyway.
But on the other hand, I think editing/decompiling duke3d.grp by itself is not recommended (in order to avoid speaking of "forbidden"). I would rather suggest compiling a whole new grp from scratch with tools like Roma Loom's excellent GRPViewer or the like.

[The Commander]

Originally Posted by NightFright

I don't know how far you have to go before you can use a deconstructed duke3d.grp legally, but removing art & sounds is the least you have to do. The con files themselves are no problem, I guess, for they are edited in other mods, anyway.
But on the other hand, I think editing/decompiling duke3d.grp by itself is not recommended (in order to avoid speaking of "forbidden"). I would rather suggest compiling a whole new grp from scratch with tools like Roma Loom's excellent GRPViewer or the like.

I remove everything out of the duke3d.grp using GrpStudio.
It really would't matter if you made one from scratch or modified your original one because they both end up the same. But im pretty sure to be able to use the file legaly as a stand alone mod it would have to contain no Duke 3D original maps, art and sound, and those crapy animations. Im not sure on the PALs though.

This is getting off topic now, ill shutup now.

I don't think you can use the .dat files, unless you made your own version of pallette.dat.

[Crackadial]

Hi guys
I'm new to this forum, so don't beat me too hard if I really should have posted to another thread.

Did anyone notice that starting with the Dec.26 build, the Assault Commanders and mini-bosses don't just die -- their bodies slide across the floor. The mini-boss stops at obstacles, whereas the dead commander bounces off them like a ball. And you can stumble upon him. Not sure whether it's a feature or a realistic enhancement

[TerminX]

Sounds more like a bug... wtf? Ugh, I'll fix it. Thanks for the report.

[TerminX]

Correction for major bug: http://wiki.eduke32.com/stuff/eduke32_current.zip

[NightFright]

Remarkable. I was just playing VacaHRP when noticing this issue. Thought it had to do with messed-up code in that highres pack. Would have never believed it came from EDuke32 by itself. But well, it's fixed now, anyway, so praise again to T-X!

[Sang]

Originally Posted by ilovefoxes

Sorry, I write it wrong. >_< Ceiling (not floor) aligned flat sprites. =P

Uh ceiling/floor aligned sprites are the exact same things. A ceiling aligned sprite is just a floor aligned sprite that has been risen all the way up to the ceiling. Or a floor aligned sprite is a ceiling aligned sprite that has been lowered all the way down to the floor. Whichever explanation you prefer!

[Jblade]

Just chiming in to say this feature is the shit and will make editing in the future so much better/more entertaining. Thanks for it TerminX!

[TerminX]

Here's a test build: http://wiki.eduke32.com/crap/eduke32_test.rar

This is not a new snapshot; it's a test version with some experimental changes to the CON parser which I'm trying out. Please report any compilation failures, weird behavior in-game or EDuke32 VM crashes. I specifically need testing with older mods or those with sloppy code. Thanks.

[TerminX]

Updated the test build.

[The Commander]

Downloading again then.

[TerminX]

Updated the test build again. Now with faster startup times!

[The Commander]

Originally Posted by TerminX

Sure, if you use the def commands to turn external textures into 8-bit art tiles.

How is this done?
Its not documented in the wiki, I really need to add the animtilerange command to the wiki as well. So if I knew the one for turning external textures into 8bit, I could take out two birds with one stone as they say.

[TerminX]

tilefromtexture SECTOREFFECTOR { file "sectoreffector.png" yoffset -10 }

[TerminX]

New feature in prototype stages: structure members may be accessed for reading (not writing) through any commands which read from gamevars.

Works like this:

ifvare sprite[THISACTOR].extra 150
    quote 100

I also plan on extending this to handle grabbing the values of per-actor gamevars from other actors, like this:

ifvare actorvar[someactor].asses 3
    state illegaldonkeyshow

Builds with this feature should be available for testing sometime within the next few days. Also to be present in future builds is support for a "return" keyword, which operates similarly to "break" but allows you to completely stop an actor's execution from inside of a while loop, state, switch, et cetera. It's pretty much the same as having a "break" in your actor code, it just allows you to do so from within states the actor calls or loops/switches the actor processes.

Comments?

[The Commander]

It's sounding like it could be very usefull.

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by TerminX

Comments?

That would have saved me a lot of typing had it existed before. It was annoying and time consuming to have to put structure members into gamevars before being able to check them. If it actually speeds things up at runtime, I will probably go back and change a lot of my code to use it.

It would also be nice to be able to change the values of struct members and the vars of other actors without the extra step of getting them into gamevars.

New build works tons better than the last build I used, I thought it was the 15 dec 2008 build. Anyway, no lag or choppy movement. Though I encountered "Out of sync" 2 times on a 2 player game.

[240-185]

Oh, I forgot to mention a nasty bug in eduke32.

I have an Xbox 360 controller. This pad has 3 axes: XY axis, Z axis and another XY axis.

In "Joystick Setup", after I set an action for the Z axis which is on the third page, the "Keyboard setup" page opens, so I must quit the "Keyboard Setup", go to the "Joystick Setup", go to the "Edit Axes" section, navigate once again to the third page, set another action to the other direction, and being brought back to the "Keyboard Setup"...

[Hendricks266]

That should make ripping code out of the source easier.

[Mikko Sandt]

Is there any way to disable the super-annoying, made-to-piss-mappers-off feature that allows you to look up & down (a & z) while holding ctrl?

[TerminX]

Yeah, I'll comment it out. I don't think it does anything of use, since we've had mouselook support for so long now.