Birgers/JB's WinRott Port Thread Part 2

[jbailey]

Originally Posted by filipetolhuizen

Hi,
I just found out some other bugs that are somewhat annoying. Some items that have been destroyed remain visible as well as some platforms are being destroyed sometimes making some areas unreachable (they still visible, but not on the map).

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Try changing your opengl settings in winrottgl and see if that helps...

[filipetolhuizen]

Yeah, I already reported that, but not about destroyed platforms (you're talking of GADs here, right?)

If GAD means the flying platforms, then yes. They somehow get destroyed on some Extreme Rott levels, making it impossible to get to the end (but remain visible in gameplay, not in map).

Try changing your opengl settings in winrottgl and see if that helps...

Which settings would affect this?

[jbailey]

Probably the easiest way to check this is to erase your *.rot files and
see if the problem goes away, I'm wondering if this is only a visual
problem that is being caused by stuff set in the opengl menu.

[filipetolhuizen]

Thanks for the tip. I'll see if the problem goes away if I delete the .rot files. What about the flying platforms? Can they actually be destroyable?

[jbailey]

If you mean the gads that are setup up as elevators and 'trains', then no,
they are not supposed to be counted as destroyable objects (at least to
my knowledge)...

[filipetolhuizen]

Hmm, then something's going on. They keep disappearing on Extreme Rott levels.

[DragonsLover]

I remember playing Extreme Rott levels, and effectively, GADs can be destroyed by rolling boulders only. Are you in this level where there are a lot of boulders rolling around?

I should perhaps try playing back these levels since some of the levels involve different behaviours from the game elements.

[jbailey]

It's been a good while since I played those levels, that's why I wasn't
100% sure of my answer..

[filipetolhuizen]

I haven't seen anything rolling in this level, but 50% of the level is up on GADs. The destroyed GADs remain visible on the game, but not on the map.

[DragonsLover]

What level are you talking about? What's the title of that level?
(Just press TAB to get the map during the level and the name should appear in the top-left corner of the screen)

[filipetolhuizen]

It's the second level of the Extreme Rott pack levels.

[DragonsLover]

I got confused. When you say that the platforms are still visible, but not on the map, do you mean on the LEVEL itself (the "map") or on the level's MAP (when you press Tab key)?

Because if it's the level's MAP, then it's not a bug. Some game elements like enemies, corpses or even your character override the GAD icons. They return back to normal when you move or the enemies move and are still operational in the game. This is because the level's map can't show multiple things on a single tile, but I'm pretty sure it can be altered in the code. They aren't supposed to be destroyed at all. If, for any reason, they are REALLY destroyed, then yes, it's a serious problem, but I've just played the level and I didn't encounter any problems. Do you have a screenshot of a destroyed platform through the game?

Thanks!

[filipetolhuizen]

I meant the map when I pressed TAB key and there were no other icons above them. They were simply gone, but still visible in 3D mode. If I walked on them I would fall anyway. Whenever the bug repeats again I'll take some screenshots.

[filipetolhuizen]

Ok, now I see what happens. If I kill a guard that is over or under the GAD, it turns useless. The player will fall when stepping on it. Deleting the .rot files doesn't fix this.

[jbailey]

Thanks for the info!

[filipetolhuizen]

Last time it happened, a corpse exploded under it. I'll try again with non-destroyable corpses. A similar thing was also happening with cross items (they were collected or destroyed, but remained visible).

[filipetolhuizen]

Has anyone been able to reproduce this bug?

[Lawstiker]

I'll check it out and see if I can get it to happen

[jbailey]

I've not seen this bug myself (yet)...

[GrimWoman]

Originally Posted by filipetolhuizen

Has anyone been able to reproduce this bug?

Never happened for me.

[filipetolhuizen]

Everyone with version 1.58 and exploding corpses enabled?

[Lawstiker]

Originally Posted by filipetolhuizen

Everyone with version 1.58 and exploding corpses enabled?

Helps if I'm testing with the right version

[DragonsLover]

Just wondering, anything new since the previous time I reported bugs? Has any of them being fixed since?

[jbailey]

I've contacted birger a few times over the last month or so, and have had
no response yet, I assume real life issues have come up..

[DragonsLover]

So, it could be tomorrow, like it could be in ten years as well ?

Is there something I could do? A help I could give? To make some progress?

[jbailey]

Unless you know about net code, no I can't think of anything else to do at
the moment, I've still not heard from birger, but he's done this sort of thing
before and then all of a sudden he'll pop up. I've also noticed that the
rott community at bizhat seems to have vanished at the noment also.
Maybe things will pick up again eventually...

[DragonsLover]

What do you mean by net code ?
I already sent you a PM once about that and like I said, I have Visual Studio 2008. I could perhaps give it a try on the code unless of course you already altered all the changes I reported earlier.
Say, I was thinking that you could put the code into a SVN repository, but since you and birger are in charge to compile the code yourselves, then I think it'd be pointless, no?

[jbailey]

Birger has the final say about official compiles, I mentioned your changes
to him in several emails, and so far at least I haven't heard back from him,
I've sent him a couple of other emails to see what the status was, but so
far no response...

[DragonsLover]

That's okay, no problem. I thank you for that. So I guess I'll keep waiting until there's something new.

[GrimWoman]

Hey, i just realize a few things that need to be fixed. The keys show up in the generic blue color; They should be bronze, silver, gold and red. Also for some odd reason when you load up a game auto run turns off and so does the music.

[jbailey]

A couple of these things have been worked on in the past, I'll let birger
know about these bugs, but I haven't heard from him in a few months...

[GrimWoman]

The keys should be easy to fix, since its basically like changing the color of the players shirt in multiplayer.

[DragonsLover]

Originally Posted by ReaperMan

Hey, i just realize a few things that need to be fixed. The keys show up in the generic blue color; They should be bronze, silver, gold and red.

Yeah, I already reported that bug here.

[jbailey]

Birger should already know about most of these issues, the keys being the
wrong colors have been looked at at least 2 times now, the current version
if winrottgl shouldn't have this issue, I haven't heard from birger in a good
while, hopefully he hasn't totally disappeared, I may have a beta copy of
the next version on my system, I'll see if I can compile it and we can go
from there.

[DragonsLover]

That's great!

Also, just wondering, do you have a changelog or something similar? It's good to see that there are improvements that have been made, but it would be much better to know exactly WHAT have been improved.

[filipetolhuizen]

Disabling Deadbody is target seemed to fix fake GADs.

[jbailey]

Version 1.60 of winrottgl with it's source code is now available, check the official
download page first, if it's not posted there yet, check my download page.

[DragonsLover]

Cool!

And yeah, "Deadbody as target" seems to have some bugs in it. By the way, is that feature really necessary though? I find it rather annoying and frustrating that missiles that are primarily reserved for enemies are stopped and explode on corpses on the ground, meaning that you have to watch out not to be in front of a dead corpse if you don't want to blow up with it!

[Player Lin]

Nice, almost 1 year waiting for a new version of WinROTTGL up.

Hmm, no shareware version EXE this time?(I don't using that, just curious)

[jbailey]

Since you can play the shareware levels in the full version, I saw no point,
but if you want the stand-alone shareware exe, let me know.