Duke Nukem 3D Modelling Project part 2 - Page 2

L2theKING · 01-19-2006, 05:34 PM

Nice work on the broken Switch Piterplus!!!

I like the pipe too but I'm not sure that the way it brake up looks real!!! I think you could do a little better!

Piterplus · 01-20-2006, 04:26 AM

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L2theKING said:
Nice work on the broken Switch Piterplus!!!

I like the pipe too but I'm not sure that the way it brake up looks real!!! I think you could do a little better!

I'm not completely satisfied with it too. It looks ok after shooting with rpg, but not with pistol. Maybe I have to find some "balaced" broken state, later.

Cipher · 01-21-2006, 10:15 AM

The second pipe in the series is here. Expect final one shortly.

http://www.geocities.com/cipherx12/0996_pipe.zip

Luigi · 01-21-2006, 03:50 PM

Will someone do the easier models like: 691-693?

Mr.Fibbles · 01-21-2006, 04:08 PM

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Luigi said:
Will someone do the easier models like: 691-693?

According to KilldTon's list 691 is done. I geuss since i dont have much else to do right now, ill make a .blend file with a skin maybe and then someone else can export and or optimise. I geuss a 128^2 skin would be sufficiant for these small models.

AlgorithMan · 01-21-2006, 06:20 PM

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Cipher said:
The second pipe in the series is here. Expect final one shortly.

http://www.geocities.com/cipherx12/0996_pipe.zip

http://www.AlgorithMan.de/Duke3D/hrps/0996_pipe.hrp

Mr.Fibbles · 01-22-2006, 12:30 PM

Here is a WIP, I am using Blender materials, not a skin yet.
92 poly's

zilppuri · 01-22-2006, 12:46 PM

I think 92 polygons is bit much for that model. Especially if the handle stays blackish.

What did the original look like?

Mr.Fibbles · 01-22-2006, 12:50 PM

I am using the original sprite as a background for my model, I will make the handle flat and hopefully I can use the skin to make it more round.

Mr.Fibbles · 01-22-2006, 02:04 PM

It is down to 64 poly's and i have a skin. I am not very confident in makein blood so I'll give it a try but I mey end up sending out the psd so someone who is good at blood can do that for me.

Mr.Fibbles · 01-22-2006, 09:42 PM

Newest screen, below is zip with *.blend file, skin in *.jpg, and *.psd of skin if anyone can do better blood or skin. in the *.psd is the UV map. here

Hellbound · 01-23-2006, 03:05 AM

blood is quite acceptable

DavoX · 01-23-2006, 04:13 AM

Oh, the O.J. knife , i thought it was the Mission impossible one, i was already arguing about the blood, now i think it looks cool

AlgorithMan · 01-23-2006, 07:29 AM

http://www.cnn.com/US/OJ/evidence/knife/

this is how the original OJ knife look (personally I don't give a damn, if it looks like the real-world-one but someone else might...)

Piterplus · 01-23-2006, 09:44 AM

Put the flat plane under the knife and fill it with blood drops - that way this model will be complete.

cage · 01-23-2006, 02:45 PM

My try at the skin, but untested with the model because I don't have blender.

Btw. I think 256x256 is enough for this skin, but here's the 512x512 version

Parkar · 01-23-2006, 02:55 PM

ehh, 64x64 is enough.

Mr.Fibbles · 01-23-2006, 04:19 PM

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cage said:
My try at the skin, but untested with the model because I don't have blender.

Btw. I think 256x256 is enough for this skin, but here's the 512x512 version

I agree with Parkar, smalle skin, i used 128*128 originally, but i think i never shrunk the skin when i posted it. I can fix that.
Here is a render of that skin cage. I like it, lookos better than I could. I havent had much luck with md3 export, I'll look for one and give it a try. I'll come back with a link to zip with md3 and 64*64 skin

Mr.Fibbles · 01-23-2006, 04:38 PM

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Piterplus said:
Put the flat plane under the knife and fill it with blood drops - that way this model will be complete.

693 has blood on the ground around it, 692 is pretty clean around it. I am going for the closest I can to the original.
I plan on doing 693 also next, as for now, I cannot/ dont feel like messing with md3 exporting from blender (2.37) thus here is the zip with blender file and skin at 128 (including psd at 512). here

Mr.Fibbles · 01-23-2006, 05:15 PM

Here is a screen and link, screen is what I have of 693 in blender, imagine the white as transparent. not sure if it works. Link is to zip with blend, psd and png of 693. here

Mr.Fibbles · 01-24-2006, 04:58 PM

I cannot test these because I have not been able to get Duke to work with HRP for some time on linux so I don't knwo if they work or not. It turns out I had a md3exporter(plagman's) so I exported both and they can be found below. Included are the *.blend files just in case they didn't work and you can try exporting them yourself.
692
693
I also did not make a *.def file so can someone post what it should look like.

Piterplus · 01-25-2006, 02:51 PM

http://members.lycos.co.uk/piterplus...d/0774_leg.zip

About those knives (692&693) - I cannot make them to appear ingame. I converted all quads to triangles, exported md3 model without abundant frames , maked all definitions and still models is invisible.

Tea Monster · 01-25-2006, 03:33 PM

check your frame names first. Usually it is "FRAME1"

Go into the UV Map window and check that the normals are outside. I've had some problems with that and I think that's what was wrong with the original Reflektor model.

If all else fails, go into the Edit window and flip all the normals. If it still looks good in the UVMap window, export it and see if it appears.

Mr.Fibbles · 01-25-2006, 03:53 PM

I am pretty sure the normals are all facing the right way. While editing I make sure that normals are facing the right way when I UV Map. I don't know what the frames are called. I know there is a md3 viewer aroudn here somewhere where you can see what the frames are called.

Luigi · 01-25-2006, 04:08 PM

Piterplus your legmodel is not working ingame. The name of the frame is not correct.

Piterplus · 01-25-2006, 04:29 PM

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Luigi said:
Piterplus your legmodel is not working ingame. The name of the frame is not correct.

Frame name should be "FRAME1" (since it is default frame name in blender). It works in my instalation.
Tell me what is written in game log about frame name?

Tea Monster I checked everything. Frame name is correct. Normals is lloking the right way. I tried to replace knife model with any other model (which I know for sure is working ingame) and got the same result - it disappeared and instead of model I see old sprite. After that I did opposite thing - replaced other model with knife - and it shows ingame!
Also I tried to scale differently, from 3 to 30 - same result. Here in attachment my files I tried to install.
Maybe I did some silly mistake while installed them, who knows.

Parkar · 01-25-2006, 04:33 PM

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Luigi said:
Piterplus your legmodel is not working ingame. The name of the frame is not correct.

How is this not correct?

defined as: FRAME1

in md3 : FRAME1

AlgorithMan · 01-25-2006, 05:38 PM

works for me too
might be an issue with the

tile 0774

this could me misinterpreted as octal number so it should be

tile 774

this caused many errors back then, when the JFduke parser got an integer parser which could read normal integers, octals (numbers with a leading zero) and hexadecimals (starting with "0x")
all the def files had to be changed, because this messed up many texture associations

still it works with "tile 0774" for me either...
or have you secretly changed the defcode before I downloaded it, piterplus?

well, anyways:
http://www.AlgorithMan.de/Duke3D/hrps/0774_leg.hrp

GodBlitZor · 01-25-2006, 05:44 PM

That leg couldnt possibly sit that way.

Piterplus · 01-25-2006, 06:05 PM

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GodBlitZor said:
That leg couldnt possibly sit that way.

Of course it can - it is glued to the plate with loctaite

AlgorithMan · 01-25-2006, 08:15 PM

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Piterplus said:

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GodBlitZor said:
That leg couldnt possibly sit that way.

Of course it can - it is glued to the plate with loctaite

damn, why did you point that out, GodBlitZor? now I will always remember this "mistake" when I see it

GodBlitZor · 01-25-2006, 08:24 PM

Well. It was probably done like that in game so you could know what it is. But now, with 3D Models, it should be more realistic...and on its side.

Luigi · 01-26-2006, 03:57 AM

I got it working and it looks great! Can't wait to see the head on the plate.

01-26-2006, 09:11 AM

All great stuff in this continuition.

kaotic_oz · 01-26-2006, 03:07 PM

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Luigi said:
I got it working and it looks great! Can't wait to see the head on the plate.

so long as it isnt your own though... right?

Piterplus · 01-27-2006, 02:28 AM

Based on cup model from SW hrp:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/piterplus...8_cofeemug.zip

AlgorithMan · 01-27-2006, 07:53 AM

here is the cofeemug as .hrp:
http://www.AlgorithMan.de/Duke3D/hrps/4438_cofeemug.hrp

the status of my installer is:
it is able to merge textures, tints and skyboxes now...
voxels will be next, then models (these two will be much work...) and then I will release the next beta PLUS a converter that will convert depricated def code in your def files to new def format...

about the title of the program: best suggestions yet are "ultradef" and "quickdef" - any more suggestions?

Parkar · 01-27-2006, 09:08 AM

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AlgorithMan said:
here is the cofeemug as .hrp:
http://www.AlgorithMan.de/Duke3D/hrps/4438_cofeemug.hrp

the status of my installer is:
it is able to merge textures, tints and skyboxes now...
voxels will be next, then models (these two will be much work...) and then I will release the next beta PLUS a converter that will convert depricated def code in your def files to new def format...

about the title of the program: best suggestions yet are "ultradef" and "quickdef" - any more suggestions?

Installem is the best one so far.

Killd a ton · 01-27-2006, 04:50 PM

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AlgorithMan said:
here is the cofeemug as .hrp:
http://www.AlgorithMan.de/Duke3D/hrps/4438_cofeemug.hrp

the status of my installer is:
it is able to merge textures, tints and skyboxes now...
voxels will be next, then models (these two will be much work...) and then I will release the next beta PLUS a converter that will convert depricated def code in your def files to new def format...

about the title of the program: best suggestions yet are "ultradef" and "quickdef" - any more suggestions?

Sounds promesing, convertin def version could realy be a time saver.

Luigi · 01-27-2006, 05:11 PM

I was browsing the old 3d modelling thread and i found a few models which was being worked on.
Soul Collector worked on the robot mouse model what happened to that? Also some made models of the embrion in a jar and the hand on the plate sprite(they only need skins i have them on my comp if someone needs them).

01-26-2006, 09:11 AM	#74
3D Master Guest	Re: 0692, 0692 All great stuff in this continuition.

01-19-2006, 05:34 PM	#41
L2theKING	Re: Duke Nukem 3D Modelling Project part 2 Nice work on the broken Switch Piterplus!!! I like the pipe too but I'm not sure that the way it brake up looks real!!! I think you could do a little better! __________________ Guess who's working for Ubisoft now !?

01-21-2006, 10:15 AM	#43
Cipher	Re: 0996 Pipe The second pipe in the series is here. Expect final one shortly. http://www.geocities.com/cipherx12/0996_pipe.zip __________________ I never got to know half of you half as much as I'd have liked, and I never liked half of you half as much as you deserved. Christian Death Metal FTW!

01-21-2006, 03:50 PM	#44
Luigi	Re: 0996 Pipe Will someone do the easier models like: 691-693?

01-22-2006, 12:46 PM	#48
zilppuri	Re: 0692 I think 92 polygons is bit much for that model. Especially if the handle stays blackish. What did the original look like?

01-22-2006, 12:50 PM	#49
Mr.Fibbles	Re: 0692 I am using the original sprite as a background for my model, I will make the handle flat and hopefully I can use the skin to make it more round. __________________ http://thaunandshad.com

01-23-2006, 03:05 AM	#52
Hellbound	Re: 0692 blood is quite acceptable

01-23-2006, 04:13 AM	#53
DavoX	Re: 0692 Oh, the O.J. knife , i thought it was the Mission impossible one, i was already arguing about the blood, now i think it looks cool __________________ My Facebook Page for Game Design, Check it out! My Youtube Channel, With mapster32 tutorials!

01-23-2006, 07:29 AM	#54
AlgorithMan	Re: 0692 http://www.cnn.com/US/OJ/evidence/knife/ this is how the original OJ knife look (personally I don't give a damn, if it looks like the real-world-one but someone else might...) __________________ I have discovered a truly wonderful signature, but this margin is too narrow to hold it.

01-23-2006, 09:44 AM	#55
Piterplus	Re: 0692 Put the flat plane under the knife and fill it with blood drops - that way this model will be complete. __________________ Piterplus's textures and models vault: http://members.lycos.co.uk/piterplus/

01-23-2006, 02:55 PM	#57
Parkar	Re: 0692 ehh, 64x64 is enough. __________________ Action Unreal Tournament Duke Nukem 3D: High Resolution Pack HRP wiki: A HRP development tool

01-24-2006, 04:58 PM	#61
Mr.Fibbles	Re: 0692, 0692 I cannot test these because I have not been able to get Duke to work with HRP for some time on linux so I don't knwo if they work or not. It turns out I had a md3exporter(plagman's) so I exported both and they can be found below. Included are the .blend files just in case they didn't work and you can try exporting them yourself. 692 693 I also did not make a .def file so can someone post what it should look like. __________________ http://thaunandshad.com

01-25-2006, 02:51 PM	#62
Piterplus	Re: 0692, 0692 http://members.lycos.co.uk/piterplus...d/0774_leg.zip About those knives (692&693) - I cannot make them to appear ingame. I converted all quads to triangles, exported md3 model without abundant frames , maked all definitions and still models is invisible. __________________ Piterplus's textures and models vault: http://members.lycos.co.uk/piterplus/

01-25-2006, 03:33 PM	#63
Tea Monster	Re: 0692, 0692 check your frame names first. Usually it is "FRAME1" Go into the UV Map window and check that the normals are outside. I've had some problems with that and I think that's what was wrong with the original Reflektor model. If all else fails, go into the Edit window and flip all the normals. If it still looks good in the UVMap window, export it and see if it appears. __________________ Tea Monster's web portfolio

01-25-2006, 03:53 PM	#64
Mr.Fibbles	Re: 0692, 0692 I am pretty sure the normals are all facing the right way. While editing I make sure that normals are facing the right way when I UV Map. I don't know what the frames are called. I know there is a md3 viewer aroudn here somewhere where you can see what the frames are called. __________________ http://thaunandshad.com

01-25-2006, 04:08 PM	#65
Luigi	Re: 0692, 0692 Piterplus your legmodel is not working ingame. The name of the frame is not correct.

01-25-2006, 05:38 PM	#68
AlgorithMan	Re: 0692, 0692 works for me too might be an issue with the tile 0774 this could me misinterpreted as octal number so it should be tile 774 this caused many errors back then, when the JFduke parser got an integer parser which could read normal integers, octals (numbers with a leading zero) and hexadecimals (starting with "0x") all the def files had to be changed, because this messed up many texture associations still it works with "tile 0774" for me either... or have you secretly changed the defcode before I downloaded it, piterplus? well, anyways: http://www.AlgorithMan.de/Duke3D/hrps/0774_leg.hrp __________________ I have discovered a truly wonderful signature, but this margin is too narrow to hold it.

01-25-2006, 05:44 PM	#69
GodBlitZor	Re: 0692, 0692 That leg couldnt possibly sit that way.

01-25-2006, 08:24 PM	#72
GodBlitZor	Re: 0692, 0692 Well. It was probably done like that in game so you could know what it is. But now, with 3D Models, it should be more realistic...and on its side.

01-26-2006, 03:57 AM	#73
Luigi	Re: 0692, 0692 I got it working and it looks great! Can't wait to see the head on the plate.

01-27-2006, 02:28 AM	#76
Piterplus	Re: little model Based on cup model from SW hrp: http://members.lycos.co.uk/piterplus...8_cofeemug.zip __________________ Piterplus's textures and models vault: http://members.lycos.co.uk/piterplus/

01-27-2006, 07:53 AM	#77
AlgorithMan	Re: little model here is the cofeemug as .hrp: http://www.AlgorithMan.de/Duke3D/hrps/4438_cofeemug.hrp the status of my installer is: it is able to merge textures, tints and skyboxes now... voxels will be next, then models (these two will be much work...) and then I will release the next beta PLUS a converter that will convert depricated def code in your def files to new def format... about the title of the program: best suggestions yet are "ultradef" and "quickdef" - any more suggestions? __________________ I have discovered a truly wonderful signature, but this margin is too narrow to hold it.

01-27-2006, 05:11 PM	#80
Luigi	Re: little model I was browsing the old 3d modelling thread and i found a few models which was being worked on. Soul Collector worked on the robot mouse model what happened to that? Also some made models of the embrion in a jar and the hand on the plate sprite(they only need skins i have them on my comp if someone needs them).