Enhancing Duke's Spritely Appearance part 3

[Lightning Hunter]

I'm happy to see that you are still creating textures, Devastator. I was hoping that you would abide by the license, because you are a talented artist. I look forward to seeing more textures from you in the future.

[KaiHanshen]

Originally Posted by Lightning Hunter

I'm happy to see that you are still creating textures, Devastator. I was hoping that you would abide by the license, because you are a talented artist. I look forward to seeing more textures from you in the future

SECONDED.

[0815Jack]

here comes REACTOR2SPARK (580)

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its still not 100% as the sprites, but comes very close to it.....i hope the defs are correct this time viewable a E2L2 (in front of the nuke-button room pal21), E2L7 (reactor room ) and E4L9 (ship engine room)

the ps-filter Devastator recommened, doesnt work the way i want it...so if someone voluteers to improve it, send me an email and i will send him my psd's

@NightFright: about the HRP-To-Do list for level 3+4? is there a lot of stuff left?

[Devastator]

Looks good, i'd made some of waves strict and sharp, and added some macrowork with 1-3 pixel brush.

[NightFright]

Defs are wrong again. They point to highres folder while tiles are (correctly) placed into highres\sprites\effects.

I will check Ep.3/4 to-do contents soon, probably within the next few days.

[Radar1013]

Hey Devastator, your textures are looking awesome! It's awesome to have someone like you working for the HRP team!

Also, do you take requests? If you do, then tile #1000 and #1001 should be made. They look like one of the easiest textures to make and they havn't even been made yet.

Also, awesome #796. I never really liked the one that was in the HRP.

[0815Jack]

@NightFright

opps sorry

was an oversight ...

[NightFright]

No prob. As long as my defs are correct...
BTW: Ep.3 todo list is online: http://hrp.duke4.net/wiki/doku.php?i...xt_hrp_release
Ep.4 list soon.

[Devastator]

has 222 been done by anybody?

1000 and 1001:

[Radar1013]

Yes, 222 has already been done.

Also, you should also try your hand at 726, another easy texture that hasn't been made.

Also, your 1000 and 1001 look awesome!

[Cipher]

Except that Duke is in LA, so that measurement should be in miles
No big deal, though.

Also, the PNG format preserves the sharp lines in textures like that. It is usually preferable to JPEG in textures with large areas of solid color, simple gradients, or text.

[Radar1013]

Actually, i think that he made that texture in PNG, but then the forum software changed it to JPEG. That's happened to me.

[Piterplus]

I have reported about this bug here (http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=30939)
Lets see that's answer we'll get.
For a while I propose to use imageshack (or other hosts) to store png files .

But anyway, those two textures (1000, 1001) are not tranparent, so no need to make them png.
I think that edges of the letters is shap just bacause Devastator made them this way.

[Devastator]

i uploaded jpeg, and it uploaded correctly, everything is allright
btw, i'd be gratefull if somebody can post or give link to look at #222, that's rather interestiong one.

[Piterplus]

http://members.lycos.co.uk/piterplus/download/0222.png
You can unzip hrp archive and look at all hi-res textures and models youself to check if they was already done (or maybe it is worth to remake it, if it was badly done).

[Devastator]

huh wow, detail amount is amazing. Thanks for link Piter. I asked for 222 because i can't download hrp, and have to work in total blindness.

[Piterplus]

In that case check todo list:
http://hrp.duke4.net/wiki/doku.php?i...xt_hrp_release

But anyway you have to download hrp someday.

[NightFright]

Yeah, a little antialiasing on the #1000/1001 letters wouldn't hurt. Otherwise, quite usable.

[Devastator]

Thanks for todo list, it will help a lot.

Dislike i this antialiasing.... but here we go.
had to kill some people.. some are still lying and crying in agony...looks like nobody likes being squished..
2300, 1000, 1001

[Devastator]

726 as requested.

[Radar1013]

Awesome Devastator! Your doing a really good job!

It is so awesome how you make such great textures, and you make them so fast! We're happy you are are with us!


401 should be made. Even though it's not used much in the original game, it is used a LOT in the DukeDC maps.

NightFright
658 and 659 should be added in the revisions section in your HRP to-do-list because i have complained twice that these textures were never put in the HRP, little did i know that they WERE in the HRP. They were so low resolution that i couldn't even tell!

[0815Jack]

nice work Devastator

one hint ... i believe that 1136 needs a pal 2 version.....

check E2L8 ... the reactor room can you reach by a teleport bridge

[Radar1013]

I'm not sure what pallete it is, but it's the one that's used in the queen.

[NightFright]

@Radar1013
That's pal14 (green). We would also need pal13 (brown) for other door in E4L10.

[Radar1013]

Aw, that sucks. I don't know how to tint things brown in photoshop.

[Devastator]

Radar, try Image - adjustement - Gradient map
or Ctrl+U (Image - adjustement - HUE Saturation).

1136 pal 2
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9608/11362bg8.png

[NightFright]

It doesn't rain, but it pours!
Oh, and I have made #4525-4528 pal 0/10 by myself, based on 0815Jack's BOLT1, just turned counter-clockwise by 90 degrees.

I doubt a separate pal 2 version of #1136 makes that much sense. OK, the red tint is better than without having a separate version, but you should rather improve pal 2 tint in the defs. Right now, RGB values for pal2 are 255/128/50. Maybe you can come up with something better (so that it's more like red than orange)?

BTW the to-do list is now complete, at least it should show anything that's visibly undone in the official episodes.

[0815Jack]

hey i didnt noticed #4525-4528

doensnt altering the tint mean, that all pal textures have to be redone? i always thought tint defs were the orignals values.....

i will post reactorspark (1092) soon.....

[Piterplus]

Originally Posted by Devastator

1136 pal 2
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9608/11362bg8.png

Maybe it will be cooler if you don't make all image completely red, but leave metal parts untouched, or just less red.

[Devastator]

hmm. i think pal 2 stands for overall red lighting, no exclusions.
See pal 19, just like you say - metal parts untouched, other- red.

About tint. Actually it was good idea to create separate texture for palette 2. I tried out many possible tinting values, but all sucked. With gradient map i could fit colors to look like original one, and in game modified texture looks much more better than just tinted. Thats because in original duke palettes color varies.
simple tinting is no good...

[Piterplus]

Originally Posted by Devastator

hmm. i think pal 2 stands for overall red lighting, no exclusions.
See pal 19, just like you say - metal parts untouched, other- red.

That was bacause of engine and resources limitations. If you used tint, as a result all texture's color was changed no matter of what material it consists.
In real life some of materials reflect colored lights (metals, class) , some not (fabric etc).

[Devastator]

well, but if there is only red lightning, where'd white come from? I don't know if there are materials which can change light's wavelength, therefore changing light's color.
Nevertheless it did looks better - i made metal less saturated and more shiny
not noticeable at first glance, but makes difference.
http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11362rp2.png

[NightFright]

We will work on the pal.2 tint issue, this also caused problems with Expander crystal.

Thanks to Hunter_rus, the to-do list is now REALLY completed. It appears I forgot to add quite some models and textures. Hunter's program found all remaining ones.

[Hunter_rus]

1. I think the crystal(for expander) should have a glowmap and the pal2 should be more red.
[EDIT]It doesn't work. I have to do a change to EDuke32 first.[/EDIT]

2. The to-do list isn't completed yet. There are is a bunch of internally used tiles.
Spoiler:

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The green ones are done for SD_Duke mod and can be added to HRP. Though the smoke may not be approved for HRP.

1031 GLASS PIECES
1250 STEAM
1380 WATERSPLASH2
1636 SPIT (enforcer)
1637 LOOGIE (enforcer)
1671 FORCERIPPLE
2260 JIBS4
2390 SCRAPS
2458 KILLSICON (GUI, multi player)
2494 WIDNOWBODER1 (GUI, load/save game)
2495 TEXTBOX (GUI, load/save game)
2496 WIDNOWBODER2 (GUI, load/save game)
3250 VIEWBORDER (GUI, press '-' several times)
2590 FORCESPHERE
2595 SHOTSPARK1

[Hunter_rus]

Originally Posted by Piterplus

Maybe it will be cooler if you don't make all image completely red, but leave metal parts untouched, or just less red.

Pal2 is supposed to change all colors to red. It would look weird, if a red room had some metal parts that weren't red at all.

Why do we have pal2 textures?
We had to have these textures because the tint for pal2 was orange instead of red.
We had to have the orange tint for proper expander colorization.

But we actually do not need any pal2 textures since the expander issue will be solved. See the solution above. [EDIT]It will be solved.[/EDIT]

[Roma Loom]

I have uploaded the series of steam images here in this thread, but it's not usable due to the engine limitations.

[NightFright]

I really don't know why especially the smoke stuff won't work. We have lots of similar tiles that don't cause any problems.

[0815Jack]

ok here is reactorspark (1092)

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can be viewed in E2L4 / EL28 and E4L11 (pal 10)

during testing my images i noticed this:



is this a misalignment (the earth sprite) in the level itself or can this be fixed? and what about the fliped sprites in the whole other levels. can they be fixed too? its not a big thing....but it would be nice if possible...

[NightFright]

We have several of these, e.g. the E1L5 San Andreas Vault sign. I doubt anything can be done, you would have to change the original tiles in the group file as far as I have been told. Some items might be related to aspect ratio, however, I cannot tell for sure.

[Radar1013]

1144 Pal 13