Very disappointed

[George Broussard]

Originally Posted by dessloch

Maybe it's too early to expect an unbiased response from the fanboys, drooling as they are over the gimmickry of OMG PORTALS! right now.

All one has to do is read all the reviews in the review thread. They are pretty positive, right?

[dessloch]

Originally Posted by vcatkiller

though I'm slightly suprised by the lack of a "I want quality rather than quantity" post in here...

Originally Posted by George Broussard

All one has to do is read all the reviews in the review thread. They are pretty positive, right?

Whatever one says, the fanatical exaltation this game has received here has left little room for distinction when we take into account games like Thief, Half Life, System Shock 2, Deus Ex, to name just a few, which are easily classics that hardly anyone can find fault for coming short in length or quality.
Of course, it becomes a different ball-game altogether when we compare Prey with tech demos/games like Doom 3 and Quake 4. In which case, i must say, it's definitely better.

[vcatkiller]

No offense, but I've been put off plenty a game because of reviews, only to play it later and find I've really liked it. Or rushed out and bought that game that got rave reviews from every gaming journal, only to find I hated it. Just because the press eats it alive and calls it the next greatest wonder in human history, doesn't mean it's true, does it?

(mind it's good to see a mix of both positive and negative reviews in this case, without going overly overboard)

[Jigsaw]

Originally Posted by Babe

Prey is way better then the boring Doom3. In Doom 3, after you get scared for the first 15 minutes, rest of the game is absolutely same, with absolute no other variation - you just keep on walking in absolute same looking dark corridors, and if you touch an armour vest or weapon box, some creature jumps at your back from some hidden wall. Absolute no other variation. Prey has much more variations, and the story is also bit more engaged the Doom 3 (or Quake 4).

Don't get me wrong, I love Prey, but I think you're a victim of selective perception here. Yeah, Doom 3 was pretty repetitive (love it either, though), but so is Prey. I think I stopped counting pretty fast how often a portal openend in front of me when I was just walking up a wallwalk, or how many times I spiritwalked through a forcefield to disable it from the other side.

[von OberWurst]

Originally Posted by addict

wow, what do you people want from a game? Seriously...this isnt an RPG, its an FPS, you blow shit up!

But that is exactly one of the problems with Prey; u don't blow shit up (like in DN3D) only monsters. The Prey world is indestructable and almost non-interactive.

[Zegraphoob]

Originally Posted by vcatkiller

(though I'm slightly suprised by the lack of a "I want quality rather than quantity" post in here...)

Quality and quantity aren't mutually exclusive. Which means a quality game can be long as well. We want both, and that is not too much asked, considering we pay for it.

[Zizz]

Yeah there is alot of quantity in prey. Just take a close look on the details. Quantity baby!

Prey is so good. i'll buy it again (feel like)

[Jigsaw]

Originally Posted by Zegraphoob

Quality and quantity aren't mutually exclusive. Which means a quality game can be long as well. We want both, and that is not too much asked, considering we pay for it.

FarCry would be a great example for quality and quantity combined. But I also feel the same about Doom3. Guess I'm in a minority on that one.

[Zegraphoob]

You are not in the minority. I agree about both and think about the millions of less picky gamers that don't post on forums?
Another example of quality & quantity: The Operative: No One Lives Forever.

[von OberWurst]

Originally Posted by Zegraphoob

Another example of quality & quantity: The Operative: No One Lives Forever.

OH YES!!!

Originally Posted by George Broussard

All one has to do is read all the reviews in the review thread. They are pretty positive, right?

Come on George, it's not a personal critique. I know it must be hard to see your new "baby" getting clubbed, but instead of refering to other reviewers we would like to hear what your view on the critizm is

[Zegraphoob]

yes, George Broussard, in what aspects did Prey fail do you think? Or in what aspects is the game less than it should have been? Not everything can be perfect, right? For example, Valve would have put more time on Xen in Half-Life. (Another quality/quantity hybrid by the way).

[Duoae]

Originally Posted by dessloch

Whatever one says, the fanatical exaltation this game has received here has left little room for distinction when we take into account games like Thief, Half Life, System Shock 2, Deus Ex, to name just a few, which are easily classics that hardly anyone can find fault for coming short in length or quality.

Hehe. It's quite funny that someone who only registered to make sarcastic, derogatory comments talks about the apparent fanaticism of the people on this forum.
I don't see that much fanaticism at all. Especially not compared to other games. People aren't being shouted at or down or out of here for saying negative things about the game.

[IceColdDuke]

I just couldn't get into the game or the story I kept having to force myself to finish it . No offence to HH or 3dr id buy the game again, but I just couldn't get into it. I keep thinking its something to do with the graphics and NPC interaction...like small things I guess killed it for me. Tommys voice, his general personality...the levels just didn't work for me. I liked the sphere part at the beginining where the dome opened up and u could see earth or w/e if the levels were more geared toward that especially at the begining I would have liked it more....but this cramped level design just bugs me atleast for a professional game.

I dont think Doom 3 wasn't suited to do games like this. It had some much potentional just the developers didn't add much engine side Volume Lighting and even HDR would have done wonders atleast for the graphics appeal and it was just didn't work at least for me. I'm glad im in the minority tho ; ).

For exampel I got into Oblivion really well i mean ive NEVER got into a game more so then that. The story and the graphics just caught me, but i mean the levels in prey seemed to plasticie, there wasn't enough either interaction with the levels or just the story in general...or mabye it was because I was playing a bitchy indian(no offence ), but just didn't work for me. I mean I just played RTCW again and I got into that game more then Prey .

[Duoae]

Yeah i had that with HL2 and the last few levels of farcry. Sometimes things just don't click between the player and the game. Sucks when it happens

[Jigsaw]

Originally Posted by Duoae

Yeah i had that with HL2 and the last few levels of farcry. Sometimes things just don't click between the player and the game. Sucks when it happens

The problem with the last few levels of FarCry is: they were too friggin' hard! The final lobby fight and the fight in the Volcano's crater almost made me chew up my mouse!

[Elderban]

Originally Posted by abnormal

is it at least better than doom 3?

If I had to pick between the two, I would say that Doom 3 is better, yes.

[Zegraphoob]

Originally Posted by Jigsaw

The problem with the last few levels of FarCry is: they were too friggin' hard! The final lobby fight and the fight in the Volcano's crater almost made me chew up my mouse!

Those are some of my favourite final levels of any game

[Elderban]

Originally Posted by Needle

So you played it all night? Doesn't sound like you hated it.

No. I played it for a few hours when I got it, then a few hours the next morning.

When I got to the end I said "This is it?!?". I thought there would be more.

I kind of felt like the end of the game was rushed just to get it out the door.

[Zizz]

And now you sit here, whining on the forum all day

[Elderban]

Originally Posted by Zizz

And now you sit here, whining on the forum all day

Just replying to peoples questions.

[Straw Dog]

Originally Posted by Elderban

I kind of felt like the end of the game was rushed just to get it out the door.

To any other game this quote wouldn't be as funny as it is to Prey. You DO know they spent 10 years making this game don't you? (5 on the old graphics engine and 5 on the Doom3 engine)

Have you considered that maybe you finished it so fast because it was so good? People don't complete boring games in 2 sittings either side of a nights sleep. I get the impression that you're one of those people who have to find something to moan about with everything. Prey was epic and really, really good fun. If you're really that disappointed with a clear masterpiece like this game then perhaps gaming isn't the hobby for you, maybe something like... accountancy would suit you better?

[Zizz]

Originally Posted by Elderban

Just replying to peoples questions.

oh ok, fair enough, but what are you trying to accomplish anyway? I agree with you, its not a very long game. but now what? just wait for prey2 men

[Luga]

I felt the game was too short as well. I dont want people to get the wrong idea though, it was a good game, but was too short to be a "Wow" game.

I feel like I spendt 5-10 bucks too much on it. (I am not sure how to change Norwegian valuta to Dollars :P)

When I look back at HL2 for example, I felt like I got such a big dose of it, when it ended it was like "Man.. That was great..!" Instead on Prey it was like "What the..? This is it?!"

It was disappointing :-/

[von OberWurst]

Originally Posted by Straw Dog

Have you considered that maybe you finished it so fast because it was so good?

No, he, I and a lot of others finished fast, because Prey IS short. The puzzles could have slowed us down, if they weren't so generic and easy. Exploratione could have slowed us down as well, but the level design and the linearity of the game excludes exploration

[Sebastian]

I´m telling you folks thats 100% bullshit:"and I've already completed the game in less than 8 hours."+"Predictable, easy, and not all that exciting."

1. the game takes more than 8h to complete unless you run truu the game.
2.Easy, the game is not very easy!, difficulty lvl Normal: how easy/hard the enemies are changes how good you play.
3.the game is very exciting if you have a good soundcard,fps and good headphones or speakers.

[von OberWurst]

Originally Posted by Sebastian

I´m telling you folks thats 100% bullshit:"and I've already completed the game in less than 8 hours."+"Predictable, easy, and not all that exciting."

1. the game takes more than 8h to complete unless you run truu the game.
2.Easy, the game is not very easy!, difficulty lvl Normal: how easy/hard the enemies are changes how good you play.
3.the game is very exciting if you have a good soundcard,fps and good headphones or speakers.

I wonder how old you are, Sebastian Anyhow, you cannot say ppl can't complete the game in less than 8 hours unless the rush, just because you didn't. I did, and others apparently too.
Whether ppl find the game easy or not, is not for you to judge. I think it was, compared to other games (Doom3, Descent, Half Life 1, Earth 2160 amonst others) and others find it easy too. They idea of unlocking a harder level after completing on easy is a bad one (but 3drealms seems to like it; they did it in Max Payne 1 and 2 too).
I have a prosoundcard (Pulsar from Creamware) that cost $1200. I tell you, the sound on my system is great. Great sound is of course important in games, but great sound doesn't nessacery make the game great.

(sorry for my bad english)

[X-Vector]

Originally Posted by Duoae

I don't see that much fanaticism at all. Especially not compared to other games. People aren't being shouted at or down or out of here for saying negative things about the game.

You must browse the Prey forum with your eyes closed.

[Sebastian]

Originally Posted by von OberWurst

I wonder how old you are, Sebastian Anyhow, you cannot say ppl can't complete the game in less than 8 hours unless the rush, just because you didn't. I did, and others apparently too.
Whether ppl find the game easy or not, is not for you to judge. I think it was, compared to other games (Doom3, Descent, Half Life 1, Earth 2160 amonst others) and others find it easy too. They idea of unlocking a harder level after completing on easy is a bad one (but 3drealms seems to like it; they did it in Max Payne 1 and 2 too).
I have a prosoundcard (Pulsar from Creamware) that cost $1200. I tell you, the sound on my system is great. Great sound is of course important in games, but great sound doesn't nessacery make the game great.

(sorry for my bad english)

You said:" have a prosoundcard (Pulsar from Creamware) that cost $1200. I tell you, the sound on my system is great. Great sound is of course important in games, but great sound doesn't nessacery make the game great."

Man you have been official OWNED are you playing with OpenAL, EAX advanced HD?

[Straw Dog]

Originally Posted by von OberWurst

No, he, I and a lot of others finished fast, because Prey IS short. The puzzles could have slowed us down, if they weren't so generic and easy. Exploratione could have slowed us down as well, but the level design and the linearity of the game excludes exploration

You see, I think people are confusing 'short' with 'finely tuned'. I can't believe some of the anti Prey stuff I'm reading. I can't believe I can't believe it either because by now you think I'd be used to it. It happens with every game thats released. The disgruntled minority make themselves very loud indeed for the initial few weeks after a game is released. Debates rage, flames consume all. The Post-Prey war has officially begun.

To me, it was about the same length as FEAR (a game I have played 5 times making it more than worth the money I paid for it). I'll play Prey again many times because it is a very, very enjoyable game. Its had alot of the padding trimmed out of it which ..yes I will agree.. gives it a shorter duration than the monolithic Doom 3's of this world (and we all know just how well that puppy went down on some forums!). But what we're left with is a well honed, bug free, well playtested, fun packed game. I'm amazed that some people can't see it for that, that the duration issue.. is EVEN an 'issue'. To me Prey was so much fun I didn't even consider its duration.. until after completing it I came back to this board

[Noam sane?]

Originally Posted by von OberWurst

(sorry for my bad english)

For what it is worth, I don't see a single problem with it.

[von OberWurst]

Originally Posted by Straw Dog

The disgruntled minority make themselves very loud indeed for the initial few weeks after a game is released. Debates rage, flames consume all. The Post-Prey war has officially begun.

Don't get me wrong Straw Dog. I don't hate Prey; in fact I think its quite good. I'd just expected a game on par with Duke Nukem 3D or at least Max Payne because its produced by 3drealms and in that respect Prey doesn't deliver IMHO. But Prey is better than Doom3, FEAR, Deus Ex 2 and Serious Sam 2 just to mention a few and on par with Quake 4.

So if someone wants to start af Prey-war, its not me

[von OberWurst]

Originally Posted by Sebastian

Man you have been official OWNED are you playing with OpenAL, EAX advanced HD?

Don't get it. Why have I been owned?

[Jigsaw]

Originally Posted by von OberWurst

Don't get it. Why have I been owned?

He probably can't imagine that someone would need a soundcard for anything else but gaming. Guess he won't understand that a bargin bin soundcard for 50 bucks just doesn't cut it on the professional sector.

[Straw Dog]

Originally Posted by von OberWurst

But Prey is better than Doom3, FEAR, Deus Ex 2 and Serious Sam 2 just to mention a few and on par with Quake 4.

Haha, I got Serious Sam 2 free with Prey, haven't played it yet but my games store were doing a giveaway. Plus I got the 'Art of Prey' book for free aswell which is way cool with a sort of snakeskin type cover. All in all I'd say I got a bit of a bargain.

[von OberWurst]

Originally Posted by Jigsaw

He probably can't imagine that someone would need a soundcard for anything else but gaming. Guess he won't understand that a bargin bin soundcard for 50 bucks just doesn't cut it on the professional sector.

OK, that's cleared up then. Yes, I make music, not for a living, but its a hobby that also gives a little income on the side. I know its overkill using it for gaming, but its the only soundcard I have, so...

[Excelle]

I have to say, I've read a couple of reviews saying the gameplay is boring and generic, and that the multiplayer isn't very imaginative. Sometimes I wonder what game people are looking at

I really enjoyed Prey. Sure it was a little short, but I'll happily play it again, and the multiplayer blows my mind. I can't wait to see what the mapping community does with all the gravity and wallwalking exploits! All in all, I found the game pulled me right in, and there wasn't a moment when I was bored, as just around the corner they'd be a huge monster or some amazing eyecandy. Or maybe just an amusing radio show Any game that gives you the option to use tractor beams to throw enemies around is good in my book!

[vhold]

I just find it strange that a person would play a game for 8 hours straight and then diss it. Usually if a game isn't fun, I'd play.. maybe 30 minutes, tops?

On top of that, I think any form of entertainment for 8 hours straight is going to feel more repetitive then it would is taken in smaller chunks. Would you really want to watch 16 episodes of your favorite show back to back?

[Jigsaw]

Originally Posted by vhold

Would you really want to watch 16 episodes of your favorite show back to back?

I know I never did. It was 5 episodes tops (with "24" and "Band of Brothers")

[bummerman]

I rally look at this more as a puzzle, adventure game with an added FPS element thrown in .I enjoyed the deathwalk element the 1st time around but am noticing a certain annoyance creep in upon 2nd replay.To me , all of the real tests in this game revolved around puzzle solving, unlike some of you Rhode scholors out there, I found myself stuck for over an hour on 4 different occasions, in order to resolve a certain puzzle. Because of this, it took me almost 13 hours to finish the game. A very good game that but for the unchallenging AI would have been truly great....now if you can mix Prey's puzzles with Fear's AI, you would have an alltime great game with endless replayability but sadly, once you solve the puzzle problem's, the game loses a lot of mojo

[Babe]

Originally Posted by Jigsaw

FarCry would be a great example for quality and quantity combined. But I also feel the same about Doom3. Guess I'm in a minority on that one.

FarCry rules. The BEST game I have played till date. Playing FarCry has been an experience in my life. The last few hard levels in it were awsome .

I am afraid I cant say the same thing about Doom 3 - all quantity and only graphics quality.

Prey is only quality.