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So.... What DO you own?
So, Duke Nukem is now officially the property of Gearbox.....
Mind blowing. But it means we'll finally get something to play, and from the mind of Randy Pitchford. This is the man who played Half-Life, then said "Oh, I could do that. In fact, I could do it better!" And then proceeded to prove he COULD indeed do it better by creating Opposing Force, Blue Shift, and Decay. To me, HE is the man that made Half-Life. Not the Valve guys. Half-Life was fun, dont get me wrong, but it didnt stand out to me. But when the Gearbox expansions came out, and all the modders took cues from them, showing the events of the game from different perspectives and creating new adventures, THAT was when Half-Life became big.... I sat back the other day and wondered why I don't like HL2 as much as HL, and the reason was obvious. No Gearbox. And a fairly uninspired mod community that could use their guidance. Sorry about that. I didn't come here to talk Half-Life or even Gearbox, or to kiss Randy Pitchford's ass, I just got off topic. I wanna know, WHAT does 3D Realms have. IP wise? Do they have any rights to Prey? What about Rise of the Triad and Shadow Warrior? Are those still yours? Or have you sold the rights to those as well? I wouldnt be surprised if you announced later this month that Gearbox owns the whole shebang. Your entire back catalouge. Personally, I think you should do it. Gut the company, give everything to them. The Gearbox team is gonna help you relive the glory days! |
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Hurm. ok. I am going to go off of what Randy has said. First. Gearbox owns the rights to DN. We "sold" "Gave" what ever to them. And that is good. Tryptech (Wrong spelling I know) is made up of ONLY our guys (ex 3dr guys). That I know of.
Tt finished the game and Gb helped. MASSIVE help, not giving that up. BUT.. your question. What do we own? A LOT. Sorry you think we failed, but you really need to read more news. The truth is out there. I have read it, Randy has said it. We are not down yet. and when we are...... I will post it. |
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I think he wants to know what game IP's you guys have sold off, like Duke Nukem and prey...
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News states that we have sold Max, Prey, and DN.
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Maybe it's time for 3dr to come up with new characters and new ideas
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I barely even remembered that you guys were involved with Max Payne until I came to this forum. And yes Reaper, thats what I was trying to say. Im not plastering a big FAIL stamp on anybodies head. Im just asking what franchises/IPs that you established, are still under your control? Not just the big ones that I mentioned either.
Like for instance, could you.... make a new Blake Stone game? XD Now theres an idea. I liked that guy. What Im really saying, is that you should let Gearbox absorb your company and all its IPs, and see what happens. Maybe they could make a Shadow Warrior 2 or a new Blake Stone, or heck, make a new entry in any one of those side scrolling platformer games youve got posted as freeware now a days. Maybe you could be a team at GB that does just that? Or be daring. Sell everything, and use the money to start a new company from scratch. Think up wild new IPs and shake up the industry just like you did all those years ago when Duke Nukem 3D made jaws drop. Be the next Ion Storm! .....only, you know, don't blow all your cash on office furniture. In other words, be Ion Storm done RIGHT. |
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I'd say they're itching to dive into something fresh & completely different. Duke, Prey, Max - all old franchises they've had going on for a long, long time.
Wild, baseless guess here, but I'd bet you've seen the last huge, gazillion-dollar game with the 3DR name on it. I'll bet they go a simpler route. |
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What, like maybe mobile phone games? XD
Thats what Romero is doing now. How the mighty do fall.... But in all fairness, thats a growing market. I used to scoff when Steve Jobs bragged about how many games there are on the iPhone. But damn, once I got my iPod Touch, I had to concede it really is a viable gaming platform. Xbox Live/PSN/Steam would be a good place to go too. People love the retro stuff. Look at Bionic Commando Rearmed and Dark Void Zero. Apogee has a bunch of old sidescrollers just waiting to become the next big thing.... Speaking of which, who the heck owns the rights to Commander Keen? Do these guys still have it? |
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"Thats what Romero is doing now. How the mighty do fall...."
Source? Monkeystone has been history for quite a while, since then he has been at Midway and now he is running his own MMO company. |
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Just ignore me then. Monkeystone was the last I heard of him. Not surprising that I wouldn't know hes working on a MMO, considering how I feel about them. Still, its a mighty far cry from the way thangs used to be. Seeing 3D Realms sold for parts gives me that same funny feeling in the gut that I got the day they finally put Sierra out of its misery, after those last years of stagnation.
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Also, since we're on the subject, any chance we might see Monster Bash and/or Secret Agent be released as freeware? |
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You know a new Monster Bash would be very awesome....
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They still have Wang!
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Yeap, while that games is one of the few I haven't totally played, from the Apogee catalog, I have to admit that the level of detail in the game's design is amazing.
Secret Agent 2? Awesome idea, keep the humor and it would be an awesome game. SW2 is what I'm truly looking after, tought. But they can easily make ROTT2, an Blake Stone 3... why not?
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Agreed.
I mean, the splatterhouse series was ressurected, so mb could see a return as well
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Apogee sold all of there current big ip's what they have left is Blake Stone, Crystal Caves, Kroz, Secret Agent, stargunner. and i am not sure about those since apogee's recruitment contract for developers was to only take the shareware publishing rights for the titles they funded and let the programmer own the IP rights. based on what went to gog.com under the new apogee They acquired the Blake Stone and ROTT ip's and just sold Duke. Maybe They should go back to being an shareware publisher and bring on some new talent.
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What? So 3DR doesn't own ROTT anymore????
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I would like to see a modern Secret Agent game though.
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Apogee LTD aquired the rights to ROTT and gave Apogee LCC the right to make a new game and to go out a have it ported to other platforms. Blake Stone i am not sure about but apogee has enough rights to allow the new apogee to sell the game on gog.com so it may have been another title to be bought out from it's dev team. Of all apogee's titles Duke Nukem was the big internal title. the rest are nitch titles or never got enough press to be promoted like the wolfenstine and doom remakes. Apogee was a great company when it went and funded upstart game developers and gained the shareware rights. Duke became this big obsession since build was a big leap in engine tech and the amount of sex and gore it contained. That need to be the most advanced game out there almost killed Apogee and they need to recover. Heck prey was intended to be the launch title for build's replacement.
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You all know that I am only going to talk about what is public.
So that being said. This (Although it has alot to do with Duke) answers alot of questions that you asked in here. http://www.duke4.net/news.php?extend.356 Now it is public. |
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I think that with reading that interview with Scott Miller. They are going to have a lot of games in the future, but it did not say if there are developing any games but having games made not in house.
But they will be doing some platform titles.
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Well that says a lot there. I like direct answers... concise.
We will find out details in time, but that said volumes to me. Excellent. MrBlackCat
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"Shadow Warrior 2: Lo Wang's Res-Erection", coming When It's Done!
I kid, i kid, but seriously; a Shadow Warrior sequel would be pretty awesome. ![]()
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Well we could get a proper remake of major striker.
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I'm expecting a re-release of Shadow Warrior. I never played anything beyond the demo but what I played was neat.
I think - in a perfect world scenario - a neat idea would be to release Shadow Warrior onto XBox Live and PSN (as well as PC) and if it's successful I think someone should be contacted to finish Wanton Destruction to be released as DLC expansion which would allow 3DR to assess if it would be worthwhile to continue forward with that IP for a proper sequel. |
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I agree this is a good idea relative to the Shadow Warrior IP.
I wonder how successful Duke Nukem on XBox live really was/is... from a business standpoint. I don't know what it costs to get a game out there, but I would bet it is complex. I am sure this idea won't go over well with some, but I would like to see Raven do a Shadow Warrior sequel. I am thinking of the atmosphere of HeXen with the modern gameplay. I am all about Dark Humor like in Blood. (yeah, I only play old games!) Maybe someone else can refine what I am trying to say if they "get this" also. MrBlackCat
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Indeed. A modern incarnation of Shadow Warrior is pure win.
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With the sale of Duke Nukem does it mean that 3D Realms aint gonna get money from Duke 3D,manhatan project and all the other duke games????
And what about the PSP Trilogy has it gone to Gearbox too???? It aint gonna be the same without the 3D Realms logo.At least they gonna let it in Forever cause 90% of the game was done from 3D Realms!!!!!! And why 3D Realms cant at least become DUKE NUKEM PRODUCER just to see the logo on the newer games after forever?????Gearbox is gonna need a producer anyway!!!!Whats best than 3D Realms?????? |
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OK.Duke nukem has been sold.What if 3D Realm create a new game with duke only this time named DUKE NUKUM!!!!!!Is this gonna be illegal????
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Even if it wasn't they would NEVER do this. That would just be a stab in the back to Gearbox. |
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Whatever.But i dont think so its illegal.Anyway i really hope for SHADOW WARRIOR 2!!!!!!!!!!!
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![]() Shadow Warrior 2 does seem rather neat. Granted they may have to reintroduce the character to the public as many people probably don't even know about Shadow Warrior. |
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Im 15.I didnt even know about that game since last year when i decided to play 3drealms games besides from DUKE,MAX,AND PREY.I started with shadow warrior and LOVED IT.So i really hope for a sequel that will sell well and gonna put 3D Realms back in busines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DID u know that Duke Nukem Trilogy is still owned by 3D Realms??At least acording to wikipedia!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Try to use a little more proper grammar and spelling in your posts if you can, and try not to double post.
The Duke Nukem Trilogy is being made by Apogee Software (www.apogeesoftware.com) not 3D Realms though I completely understand how people get confused on that matter. And I am rather looking forward to it myself. ![]() |
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Sorry about the grammar,im from Greece and you know im not perfect in english!!!!
I know that apogee is making the trilogy but wikipedia has 3D Realms as the designers of the game.Isnt apogee owned by 3D realms anyway???
Last edited by evilemperorzorg; 09-22-2010 at 07:58 AM.
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