IGN + GameSpot Review - Page 3

dark_angel · 07-11-2006, 01:54 AM

What a bad review by gamespot, Jeff Gerstmann is really ****ed up!

The game clearly deserves better score.

IGN review is the best so far.

SyntaxN · 07-11-2006, 04:52 AM

I expected those 80% and 90% (a few of them) reviews, 75% is...really harsh. But I´ll read through it, maybe they´ve their good points

btw, it´s always fun to see fans going mad on bad reviews for their game

Micki! · 07-11-2006, 05:03 AM

That Jeff guy is awful..
How can he give Quake 4 a higher score than Prey..? Quake 4 isn't bad, it deserves the score it has got, but then Prey deserves something higher...

I didn't like how he stated stuff, without even thinking about it of being logical...
Like, "aliens speak english and sound dumb doing so"
Aliens didn't speak english, untill Talon came along... If he payed attention, he'd know Talon translated language speech, and text...
That said, of course they speak english, Talon translates it...

I refuse to read the whole review, i'm sure he'd just spoil cool moments from the game, while making them seem badder than they actually are...

Dawid van Straaten · 07-11-2006, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimzonTearz

I can't believe it............7.5 on GS??? 2.5 points of difference from IGN.....WTFFFFFFFFF

7.5 + 2.5 = 10
7.5 + 1.5 = 9

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Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter

Jeff Gerstmann who reviewed both the pc version of Prey and Q4, gave Q4 a 10 in graphics but Prey an 8 in graphics. Anyone see something odd here?

Yeah I saw that and I got really pissed off, since I think that Prey (I played only the demo and the graphics amazed me) has better graphics than Q4, at least you can see where you are going! I wanted to write a rant on shitty reviews by the guys at Gamespot which has irritated for some time now, but I decided not to do it, it wastes a lot of time to bitch and you reach nothing. I saw it a lot of times where games has 10/10 graphics and Gamespot gave it 8/10 or 9/10.

Lethe · 07-11-2006, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Micki!

That Jeff guy is awful..
How can he give Quake 4 a higher score than Prey..? Quake 4 isn't bad, it deserves the score it has got, but then Prey deserves something higher...

You played the retail Prey? You probably didn't, so I don't understand where you get those impressions.

Zizz · 07-11-2006, 05:11 AM

I didnt excpect anything else from gamespot. It's not fo nothing called the gamelamer palace.

dark_angel · 07-11-2006, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lethe

You played the retail Prey? You probably didn't, so I don't understand where you get those impressions.

The demo? and seeing that the full game will get better and better?

Lethe · 07-11-2006, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dark_angel

and seeing that the full game will get better and better?

Where have you seen that?

dark_angel · 07-11-2006, 05:41 AM

GB:

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A big reason we put the demo out is to let people judge for themselves. If you like the demo, then the full game only gets better. If you don't like the demo at all, then you probably won't like...

I think it is logical to assume that the full game will be better. more action packed than a demo, right?

Addicted Gamer · 07-11-2006, 05:46 AM

GS gave adequate score, really.

seregrail7 · 07-11-2006, 05:47 AM

You still havn't played the full game, though.
I'm assuming it loses momentum at the end, so IGN are wrong and GameSpot got it right.

dark_angel · 07-11-2006, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Addicted Gamer

GS gave adequate score, really.

How much adequate the score is compared to other reviews?

CrimzonTearz · 07-11-2006, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dawid van Straaten

7.5 + 2.5 = 10
7.5 + 1.5 = 9

Yeah I saw that and I got really pissed off, since I think that Prey (I played only the demo and the graphics amazed me) has better graphics than Q4, at least you can see where you are going! I wanted to write a rant on shitty reviews by the guys at Gamespot which has irritated for some time now, but I decided not to do it, it wastes a lot of time to bitch and you reach nothing. I saw it a lot of times where games has 10/10 graphics and Gamespot gave it 8/10 or 9/10.

SHUSH you I was tired and was helping a friend of mine make a NWoD character sheet

also to whomever said Greg Kasavin is trustworthy please note he is not always so......his review of halo 2 (tho it got a high score) was pure trash

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/...html?id=155567

Scream · 07-11-2006, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dark_angel

GB:

I think it is logical to assume that the full game will be better. more action packed than a demo, right?

Yes, because I've never seen a company release a demo of the best part of their game, or a game that started great but tailed off later on, or got repetitive enough so that it got boring.

I'm not saying this is the case with Prey, but plenty of games are just more of the same when compared to their demos.

Also, God knows you don't have to believe Gerstmann, but please don't take the word of the developer/publisher about the quality of a game. They're not exactly in a position to be objective.

Addicted Gamer · 07-11-2006, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dark_angel

How much adequate the score is compared to other reviews?

I am honest: i haven't played the full yet. pre-order on the way.
demo was great, no doubt about it.

but! some of my friends said it got monotonous the more you played (just like seregrail7 said).

X-Vector · 07-11-2006, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SyntaxN

btw, it´s always fun to see fans going mad on bad reviews for their game

Yes, it's pretty amusing to see people post those "mag X has really gone downhill lately" and "I've never cared for gamesite so and so's reviews anyway" comments.

Especially when they're countering with the 'correct' review which, by sheer coincidence, happens to be the one with the highest score.

Spartan_234 · 07-11-2006, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kingjolly

Yo George, you should make a referense on how Jeff rates games stupidly in DNF. It would be hilarious!!

I know Jeff as "the guy who thinks that shotguns are harmless" because in his review for Pariah, he said that the weapons in the game were mostly underpowered and that "the shotgun is harmless". WTF? (By the way, I have played Pariah, and its shotgun is very, very far from "harmless"...in fact, it's a one-shot-kill close range weapon, just like in other games.) If he really thinks that shotguns are harmless, I guess that the next time he reviews a really awful game, he's going to stick a shotgun in his mouth, expecting to merely hurt himself by shooting it...only to have his head literally blow apart. So here's what should happen in DNF: Duke walks into a secret area that Jeff Gerstmann reviews games in, and he'll find Jeff blown apart by his own shotgun blast...along with an Xbox that's still turned on with the really awful game he just recently played. Then Duke will say "Hmmm...shotguns sure aren't harmless."

dark_angel · 07-11-2006, 06:18 AM

X-Vector,

Sometimes your analysis lead to wrong conclusions.

It is not because it is the highest score but because it is an appropriate one for a game like Prey.

CrimzonTearz · 07-11-2006, 06:23 AM

teamxbox review

http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1191/Prey/p1/

Denz · 07-11-2006, 06:24 AM

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although sometimes what's exposed may be better left in the dark.

Haha, in the IGN review.

Ivan · 07-11-2006, 06:54 AM

I thought it was going to be higher.

John · 07-11-2006, 06:54 AM

I know.

dark_angel · 07-11-2006, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ivan

I thought it was going to be higher.

Oh No!! It''s tHE EnD of TEH WORLD!!!!!

hell-angel · 07-11-2006, 06:59 AM

It's an review. That means it's an opinion from a person. My suggestion, read through his opinions and play the game yourself.

If you value opinions, I suggest you look through more sites and take the average, that is more just to the game then just 1 persons opinion.

And a demo is only part of a game, if the demo maybe great, but that doesn't mean the entire game is great. But if the demo is bad it also doesn't mean the entire game is bad.
The demo is meant to be a teaser and give an indication of what the potentials are for the game. Don't judge the full game by the demo. That is in no means justified.

Mothra · 07-11-2006, 07:00 AM

The problem for me is that Gamespot's reviews tend to be fairly balanced. I've seen them go a bit nuts over a game and overrate it a couple of times (Perfect Dark Zero for example), but I've never seen them underrate a game.

Maybe I'm getting on a bit, but IGN just seems like the online equivalent of FHM and would give 9 or more for anything with guns, babes and aliens in it.

I dunno... does anyone actually disagree with anything said in the Gamespot review?

Zizz · 07-11-2006, 07:03 AM

no they just know how to rate a game. ign that is. Always fair scores over there.

Mothra · 07-11-2006, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizz

no they just know how to rate a game. ign that is. Always fair scores over there.

You don't think they overrate games at all?

Interesting.

Lethe · 07-11-2006, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartan_234

Pariah

You and your Pariah...

Damien_Azreal · 07-11-2006, 07:13 AM

Gamestop really sucks with thier reviews. I never truste their scores... there are much better sites out there.

0marTheZealot · 07-11-2006, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizz

no they just know how to rate a game. ign that is. Always fair scores over there.

are you kidding me? IGN is the worst place to go for reviews, everything there is 8.5+ unless it's truly god-awful then it's 7.0+. You can be guarenteed that if a company/game's runs on IGN, it'll get at least .7 points padded onto it's score.

Say what you will about Gamespot, they are usually right in the written portion of the review. The number shouldn't mean much; it's more for lazy people who want to vindicate or villify their opinion. I value the written portion of any review far more than any number.

Denz · 07-11-2006, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mothra

The problem for me is that Gamespot's reviews tend to be fairly balanced. I've seen them go a bit nuts over a game and overrate it a couple of times (Perfect Dark Zero for example), but I've never seen them underrate a game.

Maybe I'm getting on a bit, but IGN just seems like the online equivalent of FHM and would give 9 or more for anything with guns, babes and aliens in it.

I dunno... does anyone actually disagree with anything said in the Gamespot review?

Postal 2, underrated, they gave it 4,8, yet the game is really fun. More like a 7.

Mothra · 07-11-2006, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 0marTheZealot

are you kidding me? IGN is the worst place to go for reviews, everything there is 8.5+ unless it's truly god-awful then it's 7.0+. You can be guarenteed that if a company/game's runs on IGN, it'll get at least .7 points padded onto it's score.

Say what you will about Gamespot, they are usually right in the written portion of the review. The number shouldn't mean much; it's more for lazy people who want to vindicate or villify their opinion. I value the written portion of any review far more than any number.

Exactly. And, having read the Gamespot review in question, I would be interested to know which parts people specifically object to.

But there seems to be a kind of weird, misplaced loyalty on this forum that borders on religious reverence. I'm not sure what drives that, whether it's the regular contributions from 3D Realms staff or the fact that the game has spent 10 years in development.

Lethe · 07-11-2006, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Denz

Postal 2, underrated, they gave it 4,8, yet the game is really fun. More like a 7.

So if they underrated one game that means that they are completely flawed site? Tell me of one magazine or site with nothing but flawless reviews?

Lethe · 07-11-2006, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mothra

But there seems to be a kind of weird, misplaced loyalty on this forum that borders on religious reverence.

Ditto

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

Gamestop really sucks with thier reviews. I never truste their scores... there are much better sites out there.

You have some really supported and nice arguments here...

Mothra · 07-11-2006, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Denz

Postal 2, underrated, they gave it 4,8, yet the game is really fun. More like a 7.

Heh, no, I meant is there anything you disagree with in Gamespot's review of Prey; the written part, I mean?

Coroner · 07-11-2006, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Apache

Remind me again why Gamespot got the demo premier for Prey? lol. Wow.

You would probably respect them more if they promised to give the game a high score no matter how bad it was?

aviel120 · 07-11-2006, 07:28 AM

gamespot are fools they give prey 8 on graphics i must say this cant be they gave quake 4 10 on graphics in his time and prey looks much better on the same engine.

dark_angel · 07-11-2006, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mothra

But there seems to be a kind of weird, misplaced loyalty on this forum that borders on religious reverence. I'm not sure what drives that, whether it's the regular contributions from 3D Realms staff or the fact that the game has spent 10 years in development.

This is clearly not the case.

Micki! · 07-11-2006, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lethe

You played the retail Prey? You probably didn't, so I don't understand where you get those impressions.

Of course i haven't yet...
But this is even obvious compared with the demo alone...

Of course the full game gives the full impression, but as George said, if someone likes the demo, they'll likely find the full game much better...

So why in the heck would i think the full game isn't better than the demo, if i loved the demo..?

Anyways, that's how i got to that conclusion, i'm not trying to be a smartass or anything...

Lethe · 07-11-2006, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Micki!

Of course i haven't yet...
But this is even obvious compared with the demo alone...

Of course the full game gives the full impression, but as George said, if someone likes the demo, they'll likely find the full game much better...

I would be amased if developer says otherwise about his game...

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Anyways, that's how i got to that conclusion, i'm not trying to be a smartass or anything...

I didn't implied that, I just wanted to ask why you think so...

07-11-2006, 07:13 AM	#109
Damien_Azreal Super Moderator	Re: Gamespot give Prey 7.5 out of 10 Gamestop really sucks with thier reviews. I never truste their scores... there are much better sites out there. __________________ Monolith Fanboy since 1997 Upcoming Anticipated Games: Doom, Shadow Warrior 2, Mafia III, DisHonored 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

07-11-2006, 01:54 AM	#81
dark_angel	Re: IGN + GS Review What a bad review by gamespot, Jeff Gerstmann is really ***ed up! The game clearly deserves better score. IGN review is the best so far. __________________ Duke Nukem Forever* - Crysis - Castle Wolfenstein - Bioshock - CMR : Dirt www.Duke4.net - The ultimate source for 3DRealms next-gen game - DNF " Life rewards no death for immortals " - dark_angel

07-11-2006, 04:52 AM	#82
SyntaxN	Re: IGN + GS Review I expected those 80% and 90% (a few of them) reviews, 75% is...really harsh. But I´ll read through it, maybe they´ve their good points btw, it´s always fun to see fans going mad on bad reviews for their game

07-11-2006, 05:03 AM	#83
Micki!	Re: IGN + GS Review That Jeff guy is awful.. How can he give Quake 4 a higher score than Prey..? Quake 4 isn't bad, it deserves the score it has got, but then Prey deserves something higher... I didn't like how he stated stuff, without even thinking about it of being logical... Like, "aliens speak english and sound dumb doing so" Aliens didn't speak english, untill Talon came along... If he payed attention, he'd know Talon translated language speech, and text... That said, of course they speak english, Talon translates it... I refuse to read the whole review, i'm sure he'd just spoil cool moments from the game, while making them seem badder than they actually are... __________________ A true genius does not need boundaries such as 'common sense'

07-11-2006, 05:11 AM	#86
Zizz	Re: IGN + GS Review I didnt excpect anything else from gamespot. It's not fo nothing called the gamelamer palace. __________________ Hot d3 mod!

07-11-2006, 05:46 AM	#90
Addicted Gamer	Re: IGN + GS Review GS gave adequate score, really.

07-11-2006, 05:47 AM	#91
seregrail7	Re: IGN + GS Review You still havn't played the full game, though. I'm assuming it loses momentum at the end, so IGN are wrong and GameSpot got it right.

07-11-2006, 06:18 AM	#98
dark_angel	Re: IGN + GS Review X-Vector, Sometimes your analysis lead to wrong conclusions. It is not because it is the highest score but because it is an appropriate one for a game like Prey. __________________ Duke Nukem Forever - Crysis - Castle Wolfenstein - Bioshock - CMR : Dirt www.Duke4.net - The ultimate source for 3DRealms next-gen game - DNF " Life rewards no death for immortals " - dark_angel

07-11-2006, 06:23 AM	#99
CrimzonTearz	Re: IGN + GS Review teamxbox review http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1191/Prey/p1/

07-11-2006, 06:54 AM	#101
Ivan	Re: Gamespot give Prey 7.5 out of 10 I thought it was going to be higher.

07-11-2006, 06:54 AM	#102
John	Re: Gamespot give Prey 7.5 out of 10 I know. __________________ Duke4.net Let not mankind bogart love. [A pessimist is what an optimist defines as a realist.]

07-11-2006, 06:59 AM	#104
hell-angel	Re: IGN + GS Review It's an review. That means it's an opinion from a person. My suggestion, read through his opinions and play the game yourself. If you value opinions, I suggest you look through more sites and take the average, that is more just to the game then just 1 persons opinion. And a demo is only part of a game, if the demo maybe great, but that doesn't mean the entire game is great. But if the demo is bad it also doesn't mean the entire game is bad. The demo is meant to be a teaser and give an indication of what the potentials are for the game. Don't judge the full game by the demo. That is in no means justified. Last edited by hell-angel; 07-11-2006 at 07:02 AM.

07-11-2006, 07:00 AM	#105
Mothra	Re: Gamespot give Prey 7.5 out of 10 The problem for me is that Gamespot's reviews tend to be fairly balanced. I've seen them go a bit nuts over a game and overrate it a couple of times (Perfect Dark Zero for example), but I've never seen them underrate a game. Maybe I'm getting on a bit, but IGN just seems like the online equivalent of FHM and would give 9 or more for anything with guns, babes and aliens in it. I dunno... does anyone actually disagree with anything said in the Gamespot review?

07-11-2006, 07:03 AM	#106
Zizz	Re: Gamespot give Prey 7.5 out of 10 no they just know how to rate a game. ign that is. Always fair scores over there. __________________ Hot d3 mod!

07-11-2006, 07:28 AM	#117
aviel120	Re: IGN + GS Review gamespot are fools they give prey 8 on graphics i must say this cant be they gave quake 4 10 on graphics in his time and prey looks much better on the same engine.