3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ?

Zorgblub · 04-27-2006, 02:56 AM

I was checking the Liquid Development website today, looking for some Prey (or even DNF

) material and I saw that 3DR is no longer on the clients list while Human Head and Take 2 still are.
Does it mean they have finished the models for DNF ?
Does it mean nothing, like most of the time ?

I hope the first guess is right even if I know it's probably not

hell-angel · 04-27-2006, 04:03 AM

It means nothing, or it means that all the models THEY where supposed to make for DNF are done but not that 3DR is done with creating all the models.

My bet would be on nothing though.

trackit · 04-27-2006, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hell-angel

It means nothing

it means something

Micki! · 04-27-2006, 09:40 AM

I thought (from what i remember) that 3DR was never listed there ever... Even though, they were still working on models...

might be wrong though...

trackit · 04-27-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Micki!

I thought (from what i remember) that 3DR was never listed there ever... Even though, they were still working on models...

might be wrong though...

nope, 3DR was listed there....

Spooger · 04-27-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Micki!

I thought (from what i remember) that 3DR was never listed there ever... Even though, they were still working on models...

might be wrong though...

As I remember, they were indeed listed there. It's been a while since those Liquid guys updated their site -- I checked it only like a month back and they were still hyping their unannounced project (which as we know turned out to be Prey.)

trackit · 04-27-2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooger

As I remember, they were indeed listed there. It's been a while since those Liquid guys updated their site -- I checked it only like a month back and they were still hyping their unannounced project (which as we know turned out to be Prey.)

yeah, "check back around E3 2005"

ReadOnly · 04-27-2006, 09:47 AM

3dRealms was there because of DNF?

Btw, they have long ago finished the models for Prey if the game development now in the crunch.

Rider · 04-27-2006, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ReadOnly

3dRealms was there because of DNF?

I highly doubt that... I'm sure they where there because of Prey though!

Micki! · 04-27-2006, 09:53 AM

Seems i was wrong then... Hopefully that means they have done what they should have done there...

But, wouldn't that mean Prey should be gone too..?
I mean, Prey is close to release, and i doubt they're still making models for that game when it's almost all finished...

trackit · 04-27-2006, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rider

I highly doubt that... I'm sure they where there because of Prey though!

Human Head was there because of prey

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H@LY S#!T!!
That's what you would be saying if we could show you the dozen characters with normal maps that we created for Human Head Studio's undisclosed project. We are incredibly proud of this work, and we are eager to share samples. Check back around E3 2005!

and 3DR was there because of DNF

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Liquid Development Forever
George Broussard contacted Liquid Development to produce a slew of super high-res characters to be used for normal map generation for the loooooong awaited Duke Nukem Forever. We're can't wait to see our work in the completed title!

Little Conqueror · 04-30-2006, 06:54 PM

I'd like some confirmation on this. Did something go sour with Liquid, or did they fulfill their end of the bargain?

Kristian Joensen · 04-30-2006, 06:59 PM

They fufilled their end of the bargain. AFAIK it was just a one-off thing, an agreement to make a certain batch of models probably based on concept sketches from one of the 3DR artists.

Instead of a contious working relationship, they have probably done something like that before and might do it again, but it is not something that is done all the time or on a regular basis.

Murmandamus · 05-04-2006, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

They fufilled their end of the bargain. AFAIK it was just a one-off thing, an agreement to make a certain batch of models probably based on concept sketches from one of the 3DR artists.

Instead of a contious working relationship, they have probably done something like that before and might do it again, but it is not something that is done all the time or on a regular basis.

The site lists who they have worked for and what games they have worked on. Origin doesn't even exist anymore, yet it's still listed.

It seems odd to me that they would remove DNF. Maybe 3DR aren't going to use whatever they produced. If they even got that far.

Spooger · 05-05-2006, 05:31 AM

I party suspect that 3DR just doesn't want their name listed. Liquid Development would be nucking futs to have the name Shiny on their website (no offense to people that like their games -- I actually enjoyed Messiah!) but decide that 3DRealms should go.

But some of the recent exposure is probably getting on 3DR's nerves, and with all the rumors flying about that all they have is tech demos (thanks to gamasutra I believe), it would probably just give naysayers more ammunition to learn that 3DR is outsourcing.

That's not to say that outsourcing is bad, but in all honesty, anti-DNFers will take anything they can get their hands on and spin it around to read: "Duke not done; never will be."

This is just my guess, and I don't really have anything to back it up so it's not worth dwelling on. Just seems like a possibility.

Kristian Joensen · 05-05-2006, 09:41 AM

Ehh, Murmandamus, haven't you noticed that their main page is a news page and the 3DR news item is simply to old to be on it ?

Edit:

Compare http://www.liquiddevelopment.com/ with http://web.archive.org/web/200503071...velopment.com/

DNF beeing missing is far from the only change.

Edit 2:

As for their clients page that seems only to have released games or games that are currently beeing hyped in the media.

dudetheman19 · 05-06-2006, 04:43 AM

According to GB, nothing means nothing unless GB says it means something

ReadOnly · 05-06-2006, 08:35 AM

Amen.

hell-angel · 05-08-2006, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dudetheman19

According to GB, nothing means nothing unless GB says it means something

if nothing means nothing then that means that everything means something, so are you saying GB said that everything means something?

SyntaxN · 05-08-2006, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by hell-angel

if nothing means nothing then that means that everything means something, so are you saying GB said that everything means something?

Something don´t means anything until George says that it means something, end of discussion

hell-angel · 05-08-2006, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SyntaxN

Something don´t means anything until George says that it means something, end of discussion

That is correct.

Thewho · 05-08-2006, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

As for their clients page that seems only to have released games or games that are currently beeing hyped in the media.

Not true. Look at the list of clients and projects listed. Dice-Battlefield Vietnam, ArenaNet-Guild Wars, Lionhead-The Movies, Digital Extremes-Pariah, Maxis -The Sims 2 these are all games have been finished and released a long time ago, so it still leaves the question why is 3DRealms not listed there as well?

trackit · 05-08-2006, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dudetheman19

According to GB, nothing means nothing unless GB says it means something

we all know that nothing means nothing

what else could it mean?

Kristian Joensen · 05-08-2006, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Thewho

Not true. Look at the list of clients and projects listed. Dice-Battlefield Vietnam, ArenaNet-Guild Wars, Lionhead-The Movies, Digital Extremes-Pariah, Maxis -The Sims 2 these are all games have been finished and released a long time ago, so it still leaves the question why is 3DRealms not listed there as well?

Exacatly they have all been released, that is exactly what I said. DNF hasn't been released.

colmtourque · 05-08-2006, 09:47 AM

It is possible that this could mean anything about something, but nothing about anything. Now that would be something to think about IF nothing new about anything came of this little something of information about nothing. Of course put mathematically nothing = nada, something is finite and anything is infinite of course which means nothing in the context of this conversation about something which is really about anything.

mysteryperfecta · 05-08-2006, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

Exacatly they have all been released, that is exactly what I said. DNF hasn't been released.

Except that you're missing the original point, that 3dr WAS LISTED as a client, at a point when the game WASN'T being hyped, and now they aren't listed. Admit it, you're just guessing.

Kristian Joensen · 05-08-2006, 01:09 PM

Ehh, I told you guys that the frontpage acts as a newspage, check out the links I posted, 3D Realms aren't the only ones that aren't listed on the frontpage any longer. AFAIK they where NEVER listed under the CLIENTS's page

The frontpage and the clients page are two different things.

Malgon · 05-09-2006, 05:33 AM

Don't read into it. Thats what Joe would say!

hell-angel · 05-09-2006, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Malgon

Don't read into it. Thats what Joe would say!

Well, Joe is right.

dudetheman19 · 05-12-2006, 03:31 PM

Maybe they change everything again.

According to meqon's new ower's homepage 3drealms dont use meqon either anymore????

Maybe they are almost done since they dont seem to need any programs at all??

Kristian Joensen · 05-12-2006, 03:54 PM

They are still using Meqon George tolds us(Me and Spooger) that when enquired via PM.

What programs are you talking about ?

dudetheman19 · 05-12-2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

They are still using Meqon George tolds us(Me and Spooger) that when enquired via PM.

What programs are you talking about ?

Meqon and Liquid dev client.
Hard to know what's going on, when GB only PMs to forum members. 3Drealms was removed from Liquid dev's site. And I dont see them om AGEIA's site either. How can they be using a program, that isnt excisting anymore? I dont see anyting on AGEIA's page about meqon??

Kristian Joensen · 05-12-2006, 04:46 PM

They licensed it prior to the acquisition. I already answered the Liquid Development question in this thread.

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showpo...9&postcount=13

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showpo...7&postcount=16

dudetheman19 · 05-12-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

They licensed it prior to the acquisition. I already answered the Liquid Development question in this thread.

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showpo...9&postcount=13

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showpo...7&postcount=16

I've read that, but isn't that just assumptions?

Kristian Joensen · 05-12-2006, 05:45 PM

The first post fits well with what George has said, besides nobody continually uses contractors like that.

The second post is backed up by the links and the final claim in their is true all of the games in the client page HAVE been release expect Prey and that is beeing hyped.

dudetheman19 · 05-12-2006, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

The first post fits well with what George has said, besides nobody continually uses contractors like that.

The second post is backed up by the links and the final claim in their is true all of the games in the client page HAVE been release expect Prey and that is beeing hyped.

So it is assumptions.

04-27-2006, 02:56 AM	#1
Zorgblub	3DR no longer a Liquid Dev client ? I was checking the Liquid Development website today, looking for some Prey (or even DNF ) material and I saw that 3DR is no longer on the clients list while Human Head and Take 2 still are. Does it mean they have finished the models for DNF ? Does it mean nothing, like most of the time ? I hope the first guess is right even if I know it's probably not Last edited by Zorgblub; 04-27-2006 at 04:00 AM.

04-27-2006, 04:03 AM	#2
hell-angel	Re: 3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ? It means nothing, or it means that all the models THEY where supposed to make for DNF are done but not that 3DR is done with creating all the models. My bet would be on nothing though.

04-27-2006, 09:40 AM	#4
Micki!	Re: 3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ? I thought (from what i remember) that 3DR was never listed there ever... Even though, they were still working on models... might be wrong though... __________________ A true genius does not need boundaries such as 'common sense'

04-27-2006, 09:47 AM	#8
ReadOnly	Re: 3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ? 3dRealms was there because of DNF? Btw, they have long ago finished the models for Prey if the game development now in the crunch.

04-27-2006, 09:53 AM	#10
Micki!	Re: 3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ? Seems i was wrong then... Hopefully that means they have done what they should have done there... But, wouldn't that mean Prey should be gone too..? I mean, Prey is close to release, and i doubt they're still making models for that game when it's almost all finished... __________________ A true genius does not need boundaries such as 'common sense'

04-30-2006, 06:54 PM	#12
Little Conqueror	Re: 3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ? I'd like some confirmation on this. Did something go sour with Liquid, or did they fulfill their end of the bargain? __________________ If wishes were fishes, we'd smell like ladies' underwear. "If you join the good fight, you get 72 domain names when you die." -- Wamplet

04-30-2006, 06:59 PM	#13
Kristian Joensen	Re: 3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ? They fufilled their end of the bargain. AFAIK it was just a one-off thing, an agreement to make a certain batch of models probably based on concept sketches from one of the 3DR artists. Instead of a contious working relationship, they have probably done something like that before and might do it again, but it is not something that is done all the time or on a regular basis. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

05-05-2006, 05:31 AM	#15
Spooger	Re: 3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ? I party suspect that 3DR just doesn't want their name listed. Liquid Development would be nucking futs to have the name Shiny on their website (no offense to people that like their games -- I actually enjoyed Messiah!) but decide that 3DRealms should go. But some of the recent exposure is probably getting on 3DR's nerves, and with all the rumors flying about that all they have is tech demos (thanks to gamasutra I believe), it would probably just give naysayers more ammunition to learn that 3DR is outsourcing. That's not to say that outsourcing is bad, but in all honesty, anti-DNFers will take anything they can get their hands on and spin it around to read: "Duke not done; never will be." This is just my guess, and I don't really have anything to back it up so it's not worth dwelling on. Just seems like a possibility.

05-05-2006, 09:41 AM	#16
Kristian Joensen	Re: 3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ? Ehh, Murmandamus, haven't you noticed that their main page is a news page and the 3DR news item is simply to old to be on it ? Edit: Compare http://www.liquiddevelopment.com/ with http://web.archive.org/web/200503071...velopment.com/ DNF beeing missing is far from the only change. Edit 2: As for their clients page that seems only to have released games or games that are currently beeing hyped in the media. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript) Last edited by Kristian Joensen; 05-05-2006 at 09:45 AM.

05-06-2006, 04:43 AM	#17
dudetheman19	Re: 3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ? According to GB, nothing means nothing unless GB says it means something

05-06-2006, 08:35 AM	#18
ReadOnly	Re: 3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ? Amen.

05-08-2006, 09:47 AM	#25
colmtourque	Re: 3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ? It is possible that this could mean anything about something, but nothing about anything. Now that would be something to think about IF nothing new about anything came of this little something of information about nothing. Of course put mathematically nothing = nada, something is finite and anything is infinite of course which means nothing in the context of this conversation about something which is really about anything.

05-08-2006, 01:09 PM	#27
Kristian Joensen	Re: 3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ? Ehh, I told you guys that the frontpage acts as a newspage, check out the links I posted, 3D Realms aren't the only ones that aren't listed on the frontpage any longer. AFAIK they where NEVER listed under the CLIENTS's page The frontpage and the clients page are two different things. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript) Last edited by Kristian Joensen; 05-08-2006 at 01:14 PM.

05-09-2006, 05:33 AM	#28
Malgon	Re: 3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ? Don't read into it. Thats what Joe would say! __________________ -Most wanted games: Doom 4, Tomb Raider, Beyond Good and Evil 2

05-12-2006, 03:31 PM	#30
dudetheman19	Re: 3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ? Maybe they change everything again. According to meqon's new ower's homepage 3drealms dont use meqon either anymore???? Maybe they are almost done since they dont seem to need any programs at all??

05-12-2006, 03:54 PM	#31
Kristian Joensen	Re: 3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ? They are still using Meqon George tolds us(Me and Spooger) that when enquired via PM. What programs are you talking about ? __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

05-12-2006, 04:46 PM	#33
Kristian Joensen	Re: 3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ? They licensed it prior to the acquisition. I already answered the Liquid Development question in this thread. http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showpo...9&postcount=13 http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showpo...7&postcount=16 __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

05-12-2006, 05:45 PM	#35
Kristian Joensen	Re: 3DR no more a Liquid Dev client ? The first post fits well with what George has said, besides nobody continually uses contractors like that. The second post is backed up by the links and the final claim in their is true all of the games in the client page HAVE been release expect Prey and that is beeing hyped. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)