Fourth of June Two-Zero-Zero-Nine

Deviator · 06-03-2009, 05:36 AM

On that day, what will happen.

Will 3DR and TakeTwo just meet in court, and they appoint lawyers and sign papers and then set a new date, or will it begin for real with maybe some results.

I guess it will take some time. I'm only familiar with the judicial system of Sweden, and we don't have corporal punishment, something I bet many ppl want for TakeTwo messing with the Duke.

Does anyone know what procedures are likely to happen. How many steps before there is a verdict, time-span if we're lucky?

I think I am not the only one asking these questions, but I haven't seen a thread where the legal system is discussed more thoroughly.

Denz · 06-03-2009, 06:26 AM

you raised my interest in this too

Babe · 06-03-2009, 08:20 PM

Damn man its 4th of June midday in Australia already and it's not even 4th of June there. We have to wait extra half a day, not fair

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SplatterHappy · 06-03-2009, 09:15 PM

The hearing on the 4th is just about the injunction/restraining order request.

Take Two's lawyers will present their case as to why it should be granted, and 3D Realms' lawyers will present their case as to why it should not.

That's all that hearing is for, per the actual court documents, nothing else about the case will be heard on June 4th.

lordlonelobo · 06-04-2009, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Deviator

On that day, what will happen.

Will 3DR and TakeTwo just meet in court, and they appoint lawyers and sign papers and then set a new date, or will it begin for real with maybe some results.

I guess it will take some time. I'm only familiar with the judicial system of Sweden, and we don't have corporal punishment, something I bet many ppl want for TakeTwo messing with the Duke.

Does anyone know what procedures are likely to happen. How many steps before there is a verdict, time-span if we're lucky?

I think I am not the only one asking these questions, but I haven't seen a thread where the legal system is discussed more thoroughly.

Considering capital punishment is only assigned to felonies (criminal law), I don't think we'll be hearing it in a civil case.

Anyway, timeframe is probably at least a few months, if it does go to court.

Angelo86 · 06-04-2009, 08:08 AM

Ok is 4 june news?

lordlonelobo · 06-04-2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Angelo86

Ok is 4 june news?

Lol, cool picture.

DarkShadows · 06-04-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Angelo86

Ok is 4 june news?

"My name's Duke Nukem, and I'll represent you with explosive results"

Firstperson · 06-04-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkShadows

"My name's Duke Nukem, and I'll represent you with explosive results"

Something to add to the "Duke Quotes" section.... AND a new map.... AFTER it's released......IF it get's released.

naddie · 06-04-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Firstperson

Something to add to the "Duke Quotes" section.... AND a new map.... AFTER it's released......IF it get's released.

SplatterHappy · 06-04-2009, 11:14 AM

The judge comes into the courtroom wearing the traditional full length black robes, plus a long judges wig and ... sunglasses?

His left hand suddenly reaches up, ripping off the wig and robes in one fell swoop to reveal Duke Nukem, complete with rocket launcher in his right hand. He fires a rocket at Take Two's legal team, gibbing them all over the courtroom, slams the rocket launcher down like a judge's gavel and says, "The prosecution is out of order. Case dismissed!"

Angelo86 · 06-04-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by splatterhappy

the judge comes into the courtroom wearing the traditional full length black robes, plus a long judges wig and ... Sunglasses?

His left hand suddenly reaches up, ripping off the wig and robes in one fell swoop to reveal duke nukem, complete with rocket launcher in his right hand. He fires a rocket at take two's legal team, gibbing them all over the courtroom, slams the rocket launcher down like a judge's gavel and says, "the prosecution is out of order. Case dismissed!" :d

haahhaahah

Antikorper · 06-04-2009, 01:55 PM

I think Duke would borrow a oneliner from Dredd and just say "You have been judged."

That Guy · 06-04-2009, 02:12 PM

...and then the real judge comes in and reallity takes over. He looks at the documents. His jaw drops and he stares, amazed at GB, shakes his head and says:

"You spent 13 years sitting on your ass and have nothing to show for it?"

SplatterHappy · 06-04-2009, 02:37 PM

It looks like Take Two filed a notice of removal on May 29th. Dropping the case or just dropping the injunction/restraining order request? Who knows?

See my post here for more details: http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showth...t=35795&page=2

EDIT: On second thought, I think this is just a technicality.. something to do with moving the case from federal court to state. Who knows with legal jargon.

Willem-Jan · 06-04-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SplatterHappy

The judge comes into the courtroom wearing the traditional full length black robes, plus a long judges wig and ... sunglasses?

His left hand suddenly reaches up, ripping off the wig and robes in one fell swoop to reveal Duke Nukem, complete with rocket launcher in his right hand. He fires a rocket at Take Two's legal team, gibbing them all over the courtroom, slams the rocket launcher down like a judge's gavel and says, "The prosecution is out of order. Case dismissed!"

Coca Cola Zero-Life as it should be.

gamerfreak · 06-04-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkShadows

"My name's Duke Nukem, and I'll represent you with explosive results"

Hilarious.

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Originally Posted by SplatterHappy

The judge comes into the courtroom wearing the traditional full length black robes, plus a long judges wig and ... sunglasses?

His left hand suddenly reaches up, ripping off the wig and robes in one fell swoop to reveal Duke Nukem, complete with rocket launcher in his right hand. He fires a rocket at Take Two's legal team, gibbing them all over the courtroom, slams the rocket launcher down like a judge's gavel and says, "The prosecution is out of order. Case dismissed!"

If only that happened. BUT WAIT! What would happen to 3DR?!

Needle · 06-04-2009, 03:39 PM

Let us all hope that Broussard will get the chair for his crimes against humanity.

MegaMustaine · 06-04-2009, 03:52 PM

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Let us all hope that Broussard will get the chair for his crimes against humanity.

Since when is Duke 3D a crime against society?

ShXIII · 06-04-2009, 03:56 PM

since the mental anguish he has caused us all

SplatterHappy · 06-04-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gamerfreak

Hilarious.

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If only that happened. BUT WAIT! What would happen to 3DR?!

They'd get absorbed by the all consuming Microsoft who would make DNF an Xbox 360 and PC Windows Live exclusive, releasing the game as one level at a time episodic content to the tune of $15 a pop for each one.

Hey... I never said it would be a HAPPY ending..

lordlonelobo · 06-04-2009, 05:48 PM

The point here is that the Court will decide whether Take 2 is legally entitled to money, and to how much, not to punish 3DR for how much or little work they may have accomplished.

Babe · 06-04-2009, 07:23 PM

It looks like some one has filed a "notice of removal" on 29th May moving the court case from state courts to a federal court. So basically we now have to wait for a new hearing date in the federal court. See here for more details

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showth...t=35795&page=2

And please scroll down to post # 53.

Now who filed the "notice of removal" is not clear, but it looks like it is 3DR because federal courts have a faster hearing time + simplified pleading. Also I think it was not Take 2 who filed that because Take 2 from there prospective would have liked to get the restraining order in effect as early as possible. So my common sense says is 3DR who filed it. Round one to George.

Airtraffic · 06-05-2009, 01:23 AM

As far as I know it takes both parties to agree on a removal from a court or a judge to rule on it. Has anyone looked for court records from the 29th to see if a judge had anything to do with the removal?

SplatterHappy · 06-05-2009, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Airtraffic

As far as I know it takes both parties to agree on a removal from a court or a judge to rule on it. Has anyone looked for court records from the 29th to see if a judge had anything to do with the removal?

Looks like both parties don't have to agree to move it from state to federal, just certain conditions have to be met. See the info lordlonelobo posted (post #57) in the thread below:

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showth...t=35795&page=2

Airtraffic · 06-05-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SplatterHappy

Looks like both parties don't have to agree to move it from state to federal, just certain conditions have to be met. See the info lordlonelobo posted (post #57) in the thread below:

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showth...t=35795&page=2

Yes but a judge still has to give it the OK and there should be a court record stating who/what and when. Maybe US courts aren't as public as Canadian but up here you can get court "minutes" very easily.

SplatterHappy · 06-05-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Airtraffic

Yes but a judge still has to give it the OK and there should be a court record stating who/what and when. Maybe US courts aren't as public as Canadian but up here you can get court "minutes" very easily.

Here in the U.S. it seems to depend on where the court is located, i.e. some states are more open with their info. Some seem to only give out certain info unless you're an attorney and some (I believe) are so behind the times they don't even have online documentation yet. Not sure how good/bad the federal court online records are yet.

Even those that put all the information online seem to do it in a "when we get around to it" fashion, IMO.

Accuracy is questionable too. I'm sure anyone who's looked up the case in NY, they've noticed that the defendant is listed as APOGEE SFOTWARE, LTD. Court couldn't even be bothered to spell the name of the company right or at least realize it and correct the record in a reasonable amount of time.

Waiter · 06-05-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SplatterHappy

They'd get absorbed by the all consuming Microsoft who would make DNF an Xbox 360 and PC Windows Live exclusive, releasing the game as one level at a time episodic content to the tune of $15 a pop for each one.

That was exactly my thoughts ages (years?) ago when Joe posted a picture from a corporate celebration with a cake designed as a crossbox logo.

lordlonelobo · 06-05-2009, 05:47 PM

Like I said, I'm not a lawyer, but it might not be necessary for a judge to give it the okay. I think the purpose of the Notice of Filing of Notice of Removal is to allow the other party time to appeal the decision before it is actually removed.

06-03-2009, 05:36 AM	#1
Deviator	Fourth of June Two-Zero-Zero-Nine On that day, what will happen. Will 3DR and TakeTwo just meet in court, and they appoint lawyers and sign papers and then set a new date, or will it begin for real with maybe some results. I guess it will take some time. I'm only familiar with the judicial system of Sweden, and we don't have corporal punishment, something I bet many ppl want for TakeTwo messing with the Duke. Does anyone know what procedures are likely to happen. How many steps before there is a verdict, time-span if we're lucky? I think I am not the only one asking these questions, but I haven't seen a thread where the legal system is discussed more thoroughly.

06-03-2009, 06:26 AM	#2
Denz	Re: Fourth of June Two-Zero-Zero-Nine you raised my interest in this too __________________ *crunchy superman said:* 10 years and two complete restarts - that's either one very effective filter, or a whole lotta shit. :D

06-03-2009, 08:20 PM	#3
Babe	Re: Fourth of June Two-Zero-Zero-Nine Damn man its 4th of June midday in Australia already and it's not even 4th of June there. We have to wait extra half a day, not fair !

06-03-2009, 09:15 PM	#4
SplatterHappy	Re: Fourth of June Two-Zero-Zero-Nine The hearing on the 4th is just about the injunction/restraining order request. Take Two's lawyers will present their case as to why it should be granted, and 3D Realms' lawyers will present their case as to why it should not. That's all that hearing is for, per the actual court documents, nothing else about the case will be heard on June 4th. __________________ "They say everyone gets their 15 minutes of fame. What they don't tell you is that 12 of those minutes are a rectal exam." - John Oliver - "The Daily Show"

06-04-2009, 08:08 AM	#6
Angelo86	Re: Fourth of June Two-Zero-Zero-Nine Ok is 4 june news? __________________ Jesus 4ever † Duke Nukem Facebook

06-04-2009, 11:14 AM	#11
SplatterHappy	Re: Fourth of June Two-Zero-Zero-Nine The judge comes into the courtroom wearing the traditional full length black robes, plus a long judges wig and ... sunglasses? His left hand suddenly reaches up, ripping off the wig and robes in one fell swoop to reveal Duke Nukem, complete with rocket launcher in his right hand. He fires a rocket at Take Two's legal team, gibbing them all over the courtroom, slams the rocket launcher down like a judge's gavel and says, "The prosecution is out of order. Case dismissed!" __________________ "They say everyone gets their 15 minutes of fame. What they don't tell you is that 12 of those minutes are a rectal exam." - John Oliver - "The Daily Show"

06-04-2009, 01:55 PM	#13
Antikorper	Re: Fourth of June Two-Zero-Zero-Nine I think Duke would borrow a oneliner from Dredd and just say "You have been judged." __________________ http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...a/HailKing.jpg

06-04-2009, 02:12 PM	#14
That Guy	Re: Fourth of June Two-Zero-Zero-Nine ...and then the real judge comes in and reallity takes over. He looks at the documents. His jaw drops and he stares, amazed at GB, shakes his head and says: "You spent 13 years sitting on your ass and have nothing to show for it?"

06-04-2009, 02:37 PM	#15
SplatterHappy	Re: Fourth of June Two-Zero-Zero-Nine It looks like Take Two filed a notice of removal on May 29th. Dropping the case or just dropping the injunction/restraining order request? Who knows? See my post here for more details: http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showth...t=35795&page=2 EDIT: On second thought, I think this is just a technicality.. something to do with moving the case from federal court to state. Who knows with legal jargon. __________________ "They say everyone gets their 15 minutes of fame. What they don't tell you is that 12 of those minutes are a rectal exam." - John Oliver - "The Daily Show" Last edited by SplatterHappy; 06-04-2009 at 03:04 PM.

06-04-2009, 03:39 PM	#18
Needle	Re: Fourth of June Two-Zero-Zero-Nine Let us all hope that Broussard will get the chair for his crimes against humanity.

06-04-2009, 03:56 PM	#20
ShXIII	Re: Fourth of June Two-Zero-Zero-Nine since the mental anguish he has caused us all

06-04-2009, 05:48 PM	#22
lordlonelobo	Re: Fourth of June Two-Zero-Zero-Nine The point here is that the Court will decide whether Take 2 is legally entitled to money, and to how much, not to punish 3DR for how much or little work they may have accomplished.

06-04-2009, 07:23 PM	#23
Babe	Re: Fourth of June Two-Zero-Zero-Nine It looks like some one has filed a "notice of removal" on 29th May moving the court case from state courts to a federal court. So basically we now have to wait for a new hearing date in the federal court. See here for more details http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showth...t=35795&page=2 And please scroll down to post # 53. Now who filed the "notice of removal" is not clear, but it looks like it is 3DR because federal courts have a faster hearing time + simplified pleading. Also I think it was not Take 2 who filed that because Take 2 from there prospective would have liked to get the restraining order in effect as early as possible. So my common sense says is 3DR who filed it. Round one to George. Last edited by Babe; 06-04-2009 at 07:25 PM.

06-05-2009, 01:23 AM	#24
Airtraffic	Re: Fourth of June Two-Zero-Zero-Nine As far as I know it takes both parties to agree on a removal from a court or a judge to rule on it. Has anyone looked for court records from the 29th to see if a judge had anything to do with the removal? __________________ I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. - Albert Einstein

06-05-2009, 05:47 PM	#29
lordlonelobo	Re: Fourth of June Two-Zero-Zero-Nine Like I said, I'm not a lawyer, but it might not be necessary for a judge to give it the okay. I think the purpose of the Notice of Filing of Notice of Removal is to allow the other party time to appeal the decision before it is actually removed.