We've got Prey!

[John]

Indeed. What the Bluddmiester said.

[NutWrench]

Awesome! I never thought I'd see this, either.

[jolerwolf]

First time poster, long time visitor.

I'm excited to see if/how they've implemented the portal technology into the Doom 3 engine.

[Gryph]

Definitely awesome. Now let's hope the game is good.

[Spooger]

This is kick-ass material Good luck to Human Head on this project -- can't wait to see the screens.

Now...about Duke...

[smattbac]

Very nice!

I hope the portal tech has carried over to the Doom3 engine. It seemed like it could create some very nice gameplay.

[KaiserSoze]

i hope my boxers taste good.

awesome news though!

edit: talequeh is in oklahoma. i'm digging around the teaser site a bit.

coming-soon.html
comingsoon.html

tons of cyptic stuff on the teaser site.....get working guys!

[George Broussard]

Lengis,

Trust me when I say that you really have no idea what you are talking about.

[Needle]

George Broussard said:
Lengis,

Trust me when I say that you really have no idea what you are talking about.

So money DOES grow on trees in Texas?

I'll take the next plane.

[KaiserSoze]

prey screenshots please kthxgbye.

[George Broussard]

KaiserSoze said:
prey screenshots please kthxgbye.

June PC Gamer. 2-3 weeks?

[Duoae]

George Broussard said:

June PC Gamer. 2-3 weeks?

Is that US, UK, Korea? Where... WHERE!!!


*panting*....

[KaiserSoze]

George Broussard said:

June PC Gamer. 2-3 weeks?

cool! thanks, will keep my eye out.

[George Broussard]

Duoae said:

Is that US, UK, Korea? Where... WHERE!!!


*panting*....

I believe subscribers get it "soon" and retail stores get it in early May (in the US)? Don't quote me on that, but I think it's pretty close.

[IHerman]

I'll have to get back to you people as soon as I can find my jaw which just dropped to the ground.

[Duoae]

George Broussard said:

I believe subscribers get it "soon" and retail stores get it in early May (in the US)? Don't quote me on that, but I think it's pretty close.

I'm just worried that over here in the UK that it won't be in the same edition as i think they're technically separate companies? No?

[Eddy Willson]

Well f*ck me! It happened!

[Lengis]

George Broussard said:
Lengis,

Trust me when I say that you really have no idea what you are talking about.

I already talked to Wiederhold about this. I'm now more sure than ever, that I'm right.

[George Broussard]

Well I was there and lived through it and can tell you that your theories and suppositions are false. I've no reason to lie, but you are free to believe what you want

[Lengis]

George Broussard said:
Well I was there and lived through it and can tell you that your theories and suppositions are false. I've no reason to lie, but you are free to believe what you want

No reason to lie, but you can still leave out the truth, and true intentions. Why? Public relations.

[Duoae]

Lengis said:

No reason to lie, but you can still leave out the truth, and true intentions. Why? Public relations.

Leave them alone. They're just trying to make a game. This isn't some kind of reality TV show......

[George Broussard]

Lengis said:

No reason to lie, but you can still leave out the truth, and true intentions. Why? Public relations.

This is video games - not politics. I think you put too much emphasis on people caring about a game or what happened to it.

- Prey was cancelled because it never came together. It had nothing to do with DNF. Both teams were separate.

- Why would anyone cancel a game, just to add programmers to another project? That would be stupid. You would simply hire more people.

- We started Prey to make money to fund DNF? That would be some mighty good planning since Prey started late 2001 or so, and we thought DNF would be done in 2001/2002, but it slipped and slipped.

No, there are no sinister motives here or secret agendas. We're just whacky dork developers that make mistakes like anyone else

But people like to interpret events in interesting ways. Really, we're quite boring and not nearly as devious as people make us out to be.

[KaiserSoze]

i really have no idea what the problem is?

the fact dnf hasn't been shown yet and instead the focus is on prey now?

keep the faith.

[yossa]

George Broussard said:

June PC Gamer. 2-3 weeks?

George, please release the real screenshots not too long afterwards (I'm thinking 2 hours max ) - You know, just like you did in 1999...

[pjohnsonjr]

Duoae said:

Leave them alone. They're just trying to make a game. This isn't some kind of reality TV show......

thank you Duoae, some sound reasoning...

George Broussard said:
This is video games - not politics. I think you put too much emphasis on people caring about a game or what happened to it.

- Prey was cancelled because it never came together. It had nothing to do with DNF. Both teams were separate.

- Why would anyone cancel a game, just to add programmers to another project? That would be stupid. You would simply hire more people.

- We started Prey to make money to fund DNF? That would be some mighty good planning since Prey started late 2001 or so, and we thought DNF would be done in 2001/2002, but it slipped and slipped.

No, there are no sinister motives here or secret agendas. We're just whacky dork developers that make mistakes like anyone else

But people like to interpret events in interesting ways. Really, we're quite boring and not nearly as devious as people make us out to be.

George has no reason to bullsh*t us...

If anything, this is proving that 3DRealms is resolved to getting things they said they would do out the door and into our hands, and it's approaching faster than ever.

[IHerman]

Tonight I'm going to drink a lot of beer to celebrate this!

I can't wait to see some screens. The website is really cool, even though I immediately closed it the first time.

Prey is coming, and I'll be there to get it.

[Lengis]

- Prey was cancelled because it never came together. It had nothing to do with DNF. Both teams were separate.

But yet, almost everyone at 3DR was working on Prey at the time, and only 2 programmers were working on DNF. Charlie himself told me this. That sounds like stretching out your resources to me

- Why would anyone cancel a game, just to add programmers to another project? That would be stupid. You would simply hire more people.

Which costs more money. The budget is stretched out as it is. You have to make layoffs to compensate for the new employees.

- We started Prey to make money to fund DNF? That would be some mighty good planning since Prey started late 2001 or so, and we thought DNF would be done in 2001/2002, but it slipped and slipped.

Is that hard to do? After Doom 3 was announced, your very reaction was, "nothing will touch Doom 3. Nothing" or something to that effect. You were impressed, and licensed the engine because you knew it would generate a profit in the long run, helping to cover the costs that DNF's development was generating.

No, there are no sinister motives here or secret agendas. We're just whacky dork developers that make mistakes like anyone else

But people like to interpret events in interesting ways. Really, we're quite boring and not nearly as devious as people make us out to be.

I never said any of your actions were sinister or devious. I simply said that you don't reveal your true intentions for public relations purposes.

[IHerman]

Uh-oh, people start quoting again...


Really I couldn't care less. A new cool game is coming.

[KaiserSoze]

lengis-no offense but really, so what?

did 3dr promise any of us dnf?

i really can't see how you're trying to debate george about game development.

i want dnf as badly as anyone here but realize i'll get it when it's good and ready.

it just seems like you have a case of sour grapes against 3dr when none of this really affects any of us as fans.

[KaiserSoze]

IHerman said:
Uh-oh, people start quoting again...


Really I couldn't care less. A new cool game is coming.

quoted for 2 points of truth.

[wieder]

But yet, almost everyone at 3DR was working on Prey at the time, and only 2 programmers were working on DNF. Charlie himself told me this. That sounds like stretching out your resources to me

Don't ever quote me again if you are going to do it wrong. I gave you a chance to have an open chat about this stuff and you blew it then... and now you post comments wrong. Nice one bud.

[Lengis]

Isn't that what you said? 2 programmers working on DNF, and the rest were focused on Prey? Correct me if I'm wrong, by all means.

[George Broussard]

This really will be my last message on this, as I really have no reason to correct you or defend anything.

But yet, almost everyone at 3DR was working on Prey at the time, and only 2 programmers were working on DNF. Charlie himself told me this. That sounds like stretching out your resources to me

Charlie is mistaken (he wasn't here at the time and may have misunderstood some history). The entire Duke 3D team rolled into the Duke 3D exp pack, then some worked on very early DNF and some finished Shadow Warrior. Prey was entirely separate with it's own team of people. A couple of people that weren't needed for Shadow Warrior or the Duke expansion helped on Prey for maybe a couple of months.

I never said any of your actions were sinister or devious. I simply said that you don't reveal your true intentions for public relations purposes.

Not true.

Bottom line...every theory you put forth in this thread is false. Except for maybe...we make games to profit by them?

[George Broussard]

Lengis said:
Isn't that what you said? 2 programmers working on DNF, and the rest were focused on Prey? Correct me if I'm wrong, by all means.

Yes, two on the DNF team (as always), and the rest were on the Prey team (as always), but they were always separate groups of people on different games. Maybe you take things to literally?

Anyway, let's just stop discussing this now.

[Bludd]

Stop being a jerk, Lengis. It's really annoying.

[Lengis]

This really will be my last message on this, as I really have no reason to correct you or defend anything.

Ah yes, the old "I'm gona end this conversation, but I'm gona get the last word in damnit!" line.

Charlie is mistaken (he wasn't here at the time and may have misunderstood some history). The entire Duke 3D team rolled into the Duke 3D exp pack, then some worked on very early DNF and some finished Shadow Warrior. Prey was entirely separate with it's own team of people. A couple of people that weren't needed for Shadow Warrior or the Duke expansion helped on Prey for maybe a couple of months.

He said the 2 programmers for DNF happened durring the Quake 2 engine period. Not sure if this is true or false.

Bottom line...every theory you put forth in this thread is false. Except for maybe...we make games to profit by them?

Which.... would be the point? If self funding your own games was so easy everyone would be doing it. Why bother with publishers at all? It just doesn't add up.

[pjohnsonjr]

Lengis...

You're flogging the dead horse here. Being combative with the guys who make the game on the forum on their site isn't a wise choice. It's almost like you're wanting to challenge them, which is a bad move, especially if you're not in the game industry or work for them... You keep going as well, just end it already, you're annoying others. As a fan I'm here to talk about 3D Realms and their games, not about some conspiracy theory you cooked up trying to make them look bad. If you're gonna do it, keep it to yourself or discuss it behind close doors...

This is not a court of law, this is a friendly forum, we're not putting them on trial here.

[klatch]

Lengis said:
Deductive logic.

And to think 3DR-staff time is consumed because someone can't differentiate between assumption and deduction. Let it go already.


Anyway, nice news. Prey was my second guess for the "unveiling" thanks to some excellent finds of several 3DR board members, though I had marked DNF as the more probable case due to misinterpretation on my part.

[SyntaxN]

I would say that it isn´t interesting anymore how many programmers Prey or DNF had in past!
For now, focus is on Prey, DNF is WID

[motionblur]

Lengis said:[...]

What the f'in hell is up with you? You are a smatrass about everything and caim to know more than everyone else even when they tell you that it's annoying. Do you think you are some kind of avenger of the truth of something?
Pull yourself together and shut up. Even if your theories should be true - no one cares!! As long as 3DRealms have the money to go on developing games I really could not care less how they do it or why. It's their business and I am pretty sure they know what they are doing.

Gawd.