Getting all Apogee/3DR games on CD

12-06-1998, 10:24 AM

I would like to get a CD with EVERY GAME Apogee and 3DRealms has ever put out. Is there such a thing? If there isn't now, can there be?

12-06-1998, 10:47 AM

um....could be, not now, but sometime in the future maybe.

-TerminX

Uncle Duke · 12-07-1998, 02:01 PM

Why not just all the games that were released under the Apogee name? I'd buy that for a maximum of $100 in a heartbeat. Gamer's nostalgia, I guess.

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Delphi Dude · 12-07-1998, 02:36 PM

Okay, so no CD. How about making more games (read : Extreme ROTT) downloadable thru Digital River ? Unless you guys release a game with a 400 page manual I'll be okay.

Joe Siegler · 12-08-1998, 12:56 AM

That's not going to happen for two reasons.

1) Cost. We have about 40 games total in the company history, and to put them ALL on a single CD, we'd have to price at a point where it'd be worth our while to do it. Point being is that most of our games still sell at the prices they're set for, and if we bundle them all together on one CD, people will buy that. If these things didn't sell at all, it might be worth it to generate extra income.

2) The real reason this will never happen. Pirate's Haven. Besides, several of our games require the CD to be in the drive to be run, and there's not enough room on a single CD to put all of these games (with their cd check code) on a single CD.

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12-26-1998, 05:01 AM

That would be a cool idea. Instead of ALL the games, why don't they put all the classic ones (like Paganitzu, Keen, etc) on one CD. With all the new games like Tomb Raider, Quake 2, they won't be very popular. And pirate haven? Well, that could happen anyway! Games don't have to be on a CD for them to be copied. If you ask me they're a lot more vulnerable to pirates on disk. EVERY computer has a 3.5 disk drive (except the Imac, if you call that a computer) so they could be copied much more easily on disk. Maybe if you encoded all the game executables into one menu program so it would be impossible to get the exe or com files out? Major hacking would have to be required if the pirates _STILL_ want to copy them. -Hoborg

12-26-1998, 10:32 AM

...Or maybe even enclose a password-protected install executable on a floppy that would be required to extract the game executables on the CD as hoborg suggested. That way it would be easy to have a different password for each user/purchaser..

12-27-1998, 02:49 PM

Johnny: I dont think 3dr wants to repeat what happend when iD released the quake shareware cd where you could 'buy' the full version of every single iD game on a cd =)

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TerminX · 01-06-1999, 11:28 PM

What DID happen anyways?

-TerminX

01-07-1999, 04:34 AM

TerminX - as far as Apogee goes, nothing new on this. But I did get the id Anthology the other day. The "Book of id" has four CDs of everything they did. But thiat is off-topic here so I will leave it at that.

12-06-1998, 10:24 AM	#1
Guest Guest	Getting all Apogee/3DR games on CD I would like to get a CD with EVERY GAME Apogee and 3DRealms has ever put out. Is there such a thing? If there isn't now, can there be?

12-06-1998, 10:47 AM	#2
Guest Guest	Re: Getting all Apogee/3DR games on CD um....could be, not now, but sometime in the future maybe. -TerminX

12-08-1998, 12:56 AM	#5
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: Getting all Apogee/3DR games on CD That's not going to happen for two reasons. 1) Cost. We have about 40 games total in the company history, and to put them ALL on a single CD, we'd have to price at a point where it'd be worth our while to do it. Point being is that most of our games still sell at the prices they're set for, and if we bundle them all together on one CD, people will buy that. If these things didn't sell at all, it might be worth it to generate extra income. 2) The real reason this will never happen. Pirate's Haven. Besides, several of our games require the CD to be in the drive to be run, and there's not enough room on a single CD to put all of these games (with their cd check code) on a single CD. ------------------ Joe Siegler 3D Realms Entertainment www.3drealms.com __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

12-26-1998, 05:01 AM	#6
Guest Guest	Re: Getting all Apogee/3DR games on CD That would be a cool idea. Instead of ALL the games, why don't they put all the classic ones (like Paganitzu, Keen, etc) on one CD. With all the new games like Tomb Raider, Quake 2, they won't be very popular. And pirate haven? Well, that could happen anyway! Games don't have to be on a CD for them to be copied. If you ask me they're a lot more vulnerable to pirates on disk. EVERY computer has a 3.5 disk drive (except the Imac, if you call that a computer) so they could be copied much more easily on disk. Maybe if you encoded all the game executables into one menu program so it would be impossible to get the exe or com files out? Major hacking would have to be required if the pirates _STILL_ want to copy them. -Hoborg

12-26-1998, 10:32 AM	#7
Guest Guest	Re: Getting all Apogee/3DR games on CD ...Or maybe even enclose a password-protected install executable on a floppy that would be required to extract the game executables on the CD as hoborg suggested. That way it would be easy to have a different password for each user/purchaser..

12-07-1998, 02:01 PM	#3
Uncle Duke	Re: Getting all Apogee/3DR games on CD Why not just all the games that were released under the Apogee name? I'd buy that for a maximum of $100 in a heartbeat. Gamer's nostalgia, I guess. ------------------ *Uncle Duke* [email protected] Visit HodgePodge International: pages.prodigy.com/hodgepodge

12-07-1998, 02:36 PM	#4
Delphi Dude	Re: Getting all Apogee/3DR games on CD Okay, so no CD. How about making more games (read : Extreme ROTT) downloadable thru Digital River ? Unless you guys release a game with a 400 page manual I'll be okay.

12-27-1998, 02:49 PM	#8
Guest Guest	Re: Getting all Apogee/3DR games on CD Johnny: I dont think 3dr wants to repeat what happend when iD released the quake shareware cd where you could 'buy' the full version of every single iD game on a cd =) ------------------ -Reptile "I hate cowboys" - Chris Jericho

01-06-1999, 11:28 PM	#9
TerminX	Re: Getting all Apogee/3DR games on CD What DID happen anyways? -TerminX __________________ EDuke32 \| Duke4.net forums, the largest Duke Nukem 3D community on the Internet Visit #eduke32 on irc.freenode.net!

01-07-1999, 04:34 AM	#10
Guest Guest	Re: Getting all Apogee/3DR games on CD TerminX - as far as Apogee goes, nothing new on this. But I did get the id Anthology the other day. The "Book of id" has four CDs of everything they did. But thiat is off-topic here so I will leave it at that.