The previews are flowing

jaikrishnan · 08-13-2003, 04:50 AM

Just in case you don't know:

1. Gamespy
2. Gamespot

Enjoy!!!

Kev_Hectic · 08-13-2003, 04:59 AM

I already started a thread about the Gamespot preiview here. But The Gamespy preview is new to me, Thanks for posting it.

maxey · 08-13-2003, 05:36 AM

wow, thanks jaikrishnan [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Joe Siegler · 08-13-2003, 12:00 PM

We told you before that when the information would start to come, it would come in waves. Last week we reported on magazine coverage of Max Payne 2. Today we bring you the two first (well, first known to us, anyway) Max Payne 2 web previews. They're by Gamespot & Gamespy. We'll get right to the comments in the previews...

Gamespy's article had this to say about Max Payne 2...


..fans of the original game can rest assured that Max Payne 2 should easily surpass whatever bars the first game raised.

With improved real-time shadows, dynamic lighting and destructive elements, things really are getting pushed to the max (pun intended)

Max will once again sport a small NRA arsenal in that fine Italian leather jacket, this time with enough firearms to satisfy any Hong Kong action cinema fan, while bullet time is back big time.

Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne should have everything fans of the original would want



Gamespy also talks about the look of Max and the other characters, the plot (as much as was given away, which wasn't much), weapons, and much more. Check out Gamespy's preview here.

Gamespot's article had this to say about Max Payne 2...

.. many aspects of the original game's presentation have been updated and improved for the sequel, including improved character models with facial animation...
The sequel will also feature improved particle effects, which will provide more realistic-looking flames and smoke, as well as better-looking weapon effects.
The improved graphics engine will allow for extremely detailed scenery textures for colorful graffiti spray-painted on walls as well as for run-down brick buildings papered with old movie posters.
From what we've seen of the game, it seems like many, many aspects of the original game's presentation have been updated and improved for the sequel, including improved character models with facial animation, including Max, who went through most of the original game with a single, squint-eyed facial expression. Characters will be able to crease their brows and smile, frown, and speak with animated lips.

Gamespot's article covers most of the same territory as the Gamespy article (or is it the other way around? <g>). Gamespot's has a little more detail on the game's plot, but also talks about some specific weapons and character interactions. Check out Gamespot's preview here.

Both articles/previews are worth checking out, and both have screenshots in them, too, and both have lots of information that any action gaming fan would be interested in. There will be more Max Payne 2 stuff coming soon, and when we hear about it, so will you. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Kev_Hectic · 08-13-2003, 12:44 PM

^ Nice update Joe. I noticed that Gamespy has a couple extra screen shots that Gamespot doesn't.

Gamespy's preview also mentions that the NPC's will be much improved so you don't have to baby-sit them as much. That sounds cool. I hope that means they'll be able to navigate around the environments better. It annoys me when you get an NPC that's suppose to follow you, then it gets stuck in a small area or something and you have to go back and try to get it to follow you again. It would also be nice if NPC's that don't have weapons duck or run out of the way when enemies are shooting at them, instead of standing there and getting shot at.

maxey · 08-13-2003, 01:52 PM

@joe

so there will be more online previews by other sites?

FullMetalJacket · 08-13-2003, 08:24 PM

Why wouldn't there be? And of course there's always a tremendous surge of previews for a game right before it goes gold. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
We get a PC Gamer preview in the October issue, due out in a coupla weeks...

And Joe, great choices you made to quote from the previews, and I'm not criticizing you or anything, but one of those two previews said the game will have ragdoll physics courtesy of the Havok physics engine. I believe you should have mentioned that, as many people still think MP2 is still using pre-canned death animations. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Homoludens · 08-13-2003, 08:43 PM

I dunno about you guys, but after viewing these and the other in-game screenshots, I actually laughed at the idea of Doom3 being the most realistic looking title soon to be out there. I think Max Payne 2's gameworld makes Doom3's gameworld look like an overwrought sideshow drama queen's chrome and wax museum, but that's just my 2 cents - and my time well spent laughing.

I look very forward to Max Payne 2.

FullMetalJacket · 08-13-2003, 08:52 PM

That second shot's from a cutscene.
I take it Max gets betrayed?! We know he has at least three male allies that he fights alongside ingame -- and all of them visible in that screen. The fat bald guy, the thinner bald guy, and the guy that looks like a cross between Fonzie and Robert de Niro. You've seen all of them with Max in other screenshots.

But it looks like the two bald guys are fighting over something.

[img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Kev_Hectic · 08-13-2003, 09:09 PM

^ The guy on the far right looks kinda like Alec Baldwin to me.

Kev_Hectic · 08-13-2003, 09:14 PM

Oh and IGN has their preview of Max Payne 2 up...

http://pc.ign.com/articles/433/433505p1.html?fromint=1

FullMetalJacket · 08-13-2003, 09:52 PM

Thanks for the preview, kev_hectic!!!! Lovely screen here! http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?media_id=1785797&object_id=482121 &channel_id=59&page_title=Max+Payne+2%3A+The+Fall+ of+Max+Payne&adtag=network%3Dign%26size%3D468x60%2 6ch annel%3Dpc%26site%3Dpc_hub%26channel%3Dpreviews%26 type%3Dpartner

And look at Max here! http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?media_id=1785926&object_id=482121 &channel_id=59&page_title=Max+Payne+2%3A+The+Fall+ of+Max+Payne&adString=network%3Dign%26site%3Dpchub %26 pagetype%3Dmediaimgthin&return_url=http%3A%2F%2Fpc .ign.com%2Fobjects%2F482%2F482121.html
Do you think Remedy simply made a new Max model with damage on him? Or do you think they have a "bolt-on" technology like in SOF2?

Bushido · 08-14-2003, 01:33 AM

...simply awesome^^^

biXen · 08-14-2003, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Homoludens:

I dunno about you guys, but after viewing these and the other in-game screenshots, I actually laughed at the idea of Doom3 being the most realistic looking title soon to be out there. I think Max Payne 2's gameworld makes Doom3's gameworld look like an overwrought sideshow drama queen's chrome and wax museum, but that's just my 2 cents - and my time well spent laughing.

I look very forward to Max Payne 2.

I've said that since the first Max Payne 2 shots came (and also HL2 shots), and I've never thought Doom 3 looks real (although it may look good, depending on tech/taste preferences)

KillJoy · 08-14-2003, 08:21 AM

That's because the textures Doom 3 uses in the game are not detail textures. They may be hi res, but they are mainly solid colors. A lot of repeated patterns of textures. I would say that HL2 and MP2 have done a much better job at making the faces look as realistic as possible. In HL2 they have a solid facial animation system, that breathes life into the characters, while MP2 has more geometry and higher res textures on the faces.

Doom 3 has ... big ugly guys.

08-14-2003, 10:27 AM

Am I the only one that ever takes the "Fall of Max Payne" as instantly meaning more of a reign of terror, rather than the falling in love or falling from grace meaning?

Edit: And that shot of Max with all the cuts and everything is amazing! [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

Joe Siegler · 08-14-2003, 02:22 PM

Yesterday we brought you two Max Payne 2 previews, today we have another, this time from IGN. Let's get right to what they had to say.


...the sequel maintains much of what we loved about the first title while still taking enough risks to offer some surprises as well.

But though these comic book sequences are still an important part of the presentation, Remedy is making an effort to tell more of the story through in-game sequences.

The success of the first game and the involvement of Rockstar mean we can expect much higher production values this time around.

Now making use of the Havoc physics engine, Max Payne 2 allows for some very realistic ragdoll effects.



IGN's got a two page preview of the game, as well as several screenshots - make sure and give it a read!

Co11 · 08-14-2003, 06:40 PM

/me hears the hype machine starting to crank up...

Crashnet · 08-14-2003, 08:14 PM

Who's up for just skipping September this year so October will get here faster. Anyone?

KillJoy · 08-14-2003, 08:25 PM

Who likes Labor Day anyway?

Homoludens · 08-14-2003, 08:37 PM

Um, NOOOO!!! I will NOT skip over September just for Max Payne 2. What, do you really think I'd be stupid enough to jump over Half-Life 2 if it actually is released on 9/30? I look forward to MP2, but I'll be damned if I miss HL2 because of it. [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img]

KillJoy · 08-14-2003, 09:11 PM

2 days wait "if" HL2 comes out on schedule.

mysteryperfecta · 08-14-2003, 11:35 PM

The only previews that mean squat to me are hands-on gameplay previews, not descriptions of controlled-environment demo movies (and hands-on previews don't mean much more).

Advances in graphics are nice, but I want to know if the gameplay has been taken into newer and better places (although I enjoyed the original's gameplay).

Mongorian · 08-14-2003, 11:59 PM

I can't WAIT to see Max Payne 2 in motion...When I saw the Max Payne 1 video that took place in the parking garage, thats what made me buy the game. [img]graemlins/love.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Jade · 08-15-2003, 03:07 AM

Wow...the screen showing Max injured is only a cutscene or we will see something like in game? It looks great. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

scorpion · 08-15-2003, 08:41 AM

it looks like it could be a cutscene becase he's leaning on a shelf, i doubt he'll do that in game. Although u never know with the technology they use, but it still is a great screen.

Presto · 08-15-2003, 12:00 PM

I'm really starting to get impressed. remedy may have started out as an underdog development team, but look where they're going!

Joe Siegler · 08-15-2003, 04:37 PM

The Max Payne 2 reviews are flowing.. Here's another one from Total Videogames. Let's get right to their quotes...

'The Fall of Max Payne' will feature even more, bigger and better textures throughout. Remedy have gone out in New York getting source material to make their digital representation of the rotten core of the Big Apple even more accurate.
Max will not be fighting on his own the whole time, at certain points he will have comrades fighting alongside him, although this may not be because they're Max's bestest buddy, it's probably necessity rather than choice.
Characters faces are the most immediately obvious improvement...
Remedy wants there to be a lot more action and no down time when actually playing the game

Make sure and check out TVG's Max Payne 2 review right here..

http://forums.3drealms.com/cgi-bin/u...=004236#000027

Mongorian · 08-15-2003, 04:42 PM

AWESOME LINK JOE!

[ 08-15-2003, 05:53 PM: Message edited by: Mongorian ]

Komb.at · 08-15-2003, 04:44 PM

Joe your TVG review link leads to this thread [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

[edit]here it is: http://www.totalvideogames.com/?sect...&format=000007

IgWannA · 08-15-2003, 05:01 PM

right, wtf is that writer talking about? that "review" is the most bullshit thing i have ever read! how can you give a game a score of 9 out of 10 if he hasn't even played it! he hasn't even seen any GAMEPLAY or footage from it! all he's seen is a couple of screenshots - he just makes up the rest.

Quote:

We're hoping for some adrenaline filled real-time cutscenes to cut in during gameplay, perhaps the two of them back to back, fighting off enemies in a subway, before an explosion rips through the place, they throw themselves into a gap, pushed together, explosion going behind them, looking stunning, and just as they're about to get some intimacy, a bullet whizzes by their head and they're back into action.

yeah, WE'RE HOPING FOR... being the operative phrase there. that can't be a serious review by a proper writer.

biXen · 08-16-2003, 02:12 AM

I thought the same thing when I read that, I could have written the preview myself, I seem to have seen just as much as that guy... if not more [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

KillJoy · 08-16-2003, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Oh and whilst it's not confirmed, we have some pretty big suspicions that you will, at some point, get to control Mona herself...

Do they know something I don't. The article just talks about nothing and then BAM!!! You get to play mona. Where are they getting these ideas?!? It looks like they read one of the articles already out, and then wrote their own.

Also, this is in the ActionTrip article:

Quote:

...as I recall a lot of people complained that the plot in Max Payne was overburdened with overly elaborate English phrases, which certainly didn't add any literary panache to the story.

That was one of the best parts!!!The "elaborate English phrases" made the Max Payne style. I hope you guys didn't get rid of that.

[ 08-16-2003, 12:01 PM: Message edited by: KillJoy ]

aavenr · 08-16-2003, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IgWannA:
right, wtf is that writer talking about? that "review" is the most bullshit thing i have ever read! how can you give a game a score of 9 out of 10 if he hasn't even played it! he hasn't even seen any GAMEPLAY or footage from it! all he's seen is a couple of screenshots - he just makes up the rest.

yeah, WE'RE HOPING FOR... being the operative phrase there. that can't be a serious review by a proper writer.

That's because it is a PREVIEW, NOT A REVIEW! And I am pretty sure that 9/10 rating you refer to is not a review score, it's the anticipation rating!

I have written previews before and I can tell you, they are not an easy assignment. The writer must avoid to make too many assumptions and still give a positive and optimistic tone to the game. Don't take these articles literally.

Also guys, just in case you haven't checked up on Deep Six today:

Blue's News reports Computer And Video Games has a Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne preview available here. The article comes directly from the PC Zone UK preview published early last month and yet still it is quite a read. Plus, you have got to love the subtitle: "Max Payne, a cop with nothing to lose. Dave Woods [scoop's writer], a man who never had anything in the first place. It's perfect symmetry". As usual, here's an extract:

"Trying to get the changes across in words is almost impossible, but seeing as looking at the screenshots is even more futile I'll give it a bash. Think smooth. Think as smooth as The Matrix. Think bullet traces brushing past your face, empty shells flying over your shoulder, sound effects that have been stretched to perfection, amazing ragdoll effects courtesy of the latest Havok 2 physics engine and a 'time-twist' at the end when you pull out of Bullet-Time and back into the land of the normal. Think the Bullet-Time in Max Payne but honed and chiselled to perfection and you're some way towards the truth. (See, I told you it was going to be impossible.) Maybe Petri Jarvilehto, lead game designer from Remedy, can help. Petri, what's the deal with your new, improved Bullet-Time. "We've improved the concept of Bullet-Time immeasurably. The gunfights are more intense this time around and much more epic in scale. We've made a lot of changes to the gunplay animations - polishing, tweaking and adding new features. It's too early to go into much detail but, for example, if you do a shoot-dodge dive you can stay on the ground and keep shooting..." Saying this, he dived into a room and demonstrated said move, discharging weapons from both hands, and taking out about six people simultaneously".

So stop messing around and go read it aloud to your pals. You may have to register to read after the first page but still, even registration is free and quite hassle-free (no confirmation email for instance). Oh and "are there any new screens" you ask? Well, yeah. First screen to the left is technically brand new (other versions have a muzzle flash going on) and I can't confirm this for sure but it is very apparent that the rest of the shots (from 2nd to 6th) are true digital versions of their magazine scan counterparts. Those scenes definitively look better and more detailed than the last time I saw them (in the form of magazine scans that is) and so I advise you to check them out again as well.

More info and the actual new screens can be found at www.planetmaxpayne.com or if you want to go straight to the article, click here

[ 08-16-2003, 02:34 PM: Message edited by: aavenr ]

maxey · 08-16-2003, 01:45 PM

wow, thanks aavenr.
so the shots are fully representative of how the current build of mp2 looks?

TBZ · 08-16-2003, 03:56 PM

aavenr: Thank's for the tip, it was a good read [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] . And the first screen of the game in the screenshot section was completely breath-taking! I mean, I had to pick up the good old jaw from the floor after that one, absolutely beautiful!

j · 08-16-2003, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxey:
wow, thanks aavenr.
so the shots are fully representative of how the current build of mp2 looks?

Hardly. They might be fully representative of how MP2 looked like back when the shots were taken (around E3), but I'm sure a lot of the clipping and such has already been fixed.

scorpion · 08-16-2003, 06:47 PM

^^ i hope your right.

Claws · 08-16-2003, 07:35 PM

So do any of the previews mention anything about gameplay? What's so special about this sequel? Is Remedy introducing anything new? Or am I supposed to be happy about the improved graphics with rehashed gameplay?

FullMetalJacket · 08-16-2003, 08:51 PM

Jesus, maybe you could read the previews instead of demanding that we spoon-feed all the juice to you. [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

08-13-2003, 12:00 PM	#4
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: The previews are flowing We told you before that when the information would start to come, it would come in waves. Last week we reported on magazine coverage of Max Payne 2. Today we bring you the two first (well, first known to us, anyway) Max Payne 2 web previews. They're by Gamespot & Gamespy. We'll get right to the comments in the previews... Gamespy's article had this to say about Max Payne 2... </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">..fans of the original game can rest assured that Max Payne 2 should easily surpass whatever bars the first game raised.</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">With improved real-time shadows, dynamic lighting and destructive elements, things really are getting pushed to the max (pun intended)</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Max will once again sport a small NRA arsenal in that fine Italian leather jacket, this time with enough firearms to satisfy any Hong Kong action cinema fan, while bullet time is back big time.</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne should have everything fans of the original would want</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Gamespy also talks about the look of Max and the other characters, the plot (as much as was given away, which wasn't much), weapons, and much more. Check out Gamespy's preview here. Gamespot's article had this to say about Max Payne 2... </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">.. many aspects of the original game's presentation have been updated and improved for the sequel, including improved character models with facial animation...</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The sequel will also feature improved particle effects, which will provide more realistic-looking flames and smoke, as well as better-looking weapon effects.</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The improved graphics engine will allow for extremely detailed scenery textures for colorful graffiti spray-painted on walls as well as for run-down brick buildings papered with old movie posters.</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">From what we've seen of the game, it seems like many, many aspects of the original game's presentation have been updated and improved for the sequel, including improved character models with facial animation, including Max, who went through most of the original game with a single, squint-eyed facial expression. Characters will be able to crease their brows and smile, frown, and speak with animated lips.</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Gamespot's article covers most of the same territory as the Gamespy article (or is it the other way around? <g>). Gamespot's has a little more detail on the game's plot, but also talks about some specific weapons and character interactions. Check out Gamespot's preview here. Both articles/previews are worth checking out, and both have screenshots in them, too, and both have lots of information that any action gaming fan would be interested in. There will be more Max Payne 2 stuff coming soon, and when we hear about it, so will you. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

08-14-2003, 10:27 AM	#16
DET Guest	Re: The previews are flowing Am I the only one that ever takes the "Fall of Max Payne" as instantly meaning more of a reign of terror, rather than the falling in love or falling from grace meaning? Edit: And that shot of Max with all the cuts and everything is amazing! [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

08-14-2003, 02:22 PM	#17
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: The previews are flowing Yesterday we brought you two Max Payne 2 previews, today we have another, this time from IGN. Let's get right to what they had to say. </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">...the sequel maintains much of what we loved about the first title while still taking enough risks to offer some surprises as well.</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">But though these comic book sequences are still an important part of the presentation, Remedy is making an effort to tell more of the story through in-game sequences.</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The success of the first game and the involvement of Rockstar mean we can expect much higher production values this time around.</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Now making use of the Havoc physics engine, Max Payne 2 allows for some very realistic ragdoll effects.</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> IGN's got a two page preview of the game, as well as several screenshots - make sure and give it a read! __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

08-15-2003, 04:37 PM	#28
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: The previews are flowing The Max Payne 2 reviews are flowing.. Here's another one from Total Videogames. Let's get right to their quotes... </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">'The Fall of Max Payne' will feature even more, bigger and better textures throughout. Remedy have gone out in New York getting source material to make their digital representation of the rotten core of the Big Apple even more accurate.</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Max will not be fighting on his own the whole time, at certain points he will have comrades fighting alongside him, although this may not be because they're Max's bestest buddy, it's probably necessity rather than choice.</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Characters faces are the most immediately obvious improvement...</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Remedy wants there to be a lot more action and no down time when actually playing the game</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Make sure and check out TVG's Max Payne 2 review right here.. http://forums.3drealms.com/cgi-bin/u...=004236#000027 __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

08-13-2003, 04:50 AM	#1
jaikrishnan	The previews are flowing Just in case you don't know: 1. Gamespy 2. Gamespot Enjoy!!!

08-13-2003, 04:59 AM	#2
Kev_Hectic	Re: The previews are flowing I already started a thread about the Gamespot preiview here. But The Gamespy preview is new to me, Thanks for posting it. __________________ RIP: 3D REALMS 1987 - 2009, you're still dead to me

08-13-2003, 05:36 AM	#3
maxey	Re: The previews are flowing wow, thanks jaikrishnan [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Webmaster of Max Payne Zone Webmaster of Alan Wake Zone

08-13-2003, 12:44 PM	#5
Kev_Hectic	Re: The previews are flowing ^ Nice update Joe. I noticed that Gamespy has a couple extra screen shots that Gamespot doesn't. Gamespy's preview also mentions that the NPC's will be much improved so you don't have to baby-sit them as much. That sounds cool. I hope that means they'll be able to navigate around the environments better. It annoys me when you get an NPC that's suppose to follow you, then it gets stuck in a small area or something and you have to go back and try to get it to follow you again. It would also be nice if NPC's that don't have weapons duck or run out of the way when enemies are shooting at them, instead of standing there and getting shot at. __________________ RIP: 3D REALMS 1987 - 2009, you're still dead to me

08-13-2003, 01:52 PM	#6
maxey	Re: The previews are flowing @joe so there will be more online previews by other sites? __________________ Webmaster of Max Payne Zone Webmaster of Alan Wake Zone

08-13-2003, 08:24 PM	#7
FullMetalJacket	Re: The previews are flowing Why wouldn't there be? And of course there's always a tremendous surge of previews for a game right before it goes gold. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] We get a PC Gamer preview in the October issue, due out in a coupla weeks... And Joe, great choices you made to quote from the previews, and I'm not criticizing you or anything, but one of those two previews said the game will have ragdoll physics courtesy of the Havok physics engine. I believe you should have mentioned that, as many people still think MP2 is still using pre-canned death animations. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] __________________ AIM screenname: MGamer16 "My father would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy; the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament."

08-13-2003, 08:43 PM	#8
Homoludens	Re: The previews are flowing I dunno about you guys, but after viewing these and the other in-game screenshots, I actually laughed at the idea of Doom3 being the most realistic looking title soon to be out there. I think Max Payne 2's gameworld makes Doom3's gameworld look like an overwrought sideshow drama queen's chrome and wax museum, but that's just my 2 cents - and my time well spent laughing. I look very forward to Max Payne 2.

08-13-2003, 08:52 PM	#9
FullMetalJacket	Re: The previews are flowing That second shot's from a cutscene. I take it Max gets betrayed?! We know he has at least three male allies that he fights alongside ingame -- and all of them visible in that screen. The fat bald guy, the thinner bald guy, and the guy that looks like a cross between Fonzie and Robert de Niro. You've seen all of them with Max in other screenshots. But it looks like the two bald guys are fighting over something. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] __________________ AIM screenname: MGamer16 "My father would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy; the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament."

08-13-2003, 09:09 PM	#10
Kev_Hectic	Re: The previews are flowing ^ The guy on the far right looks kinda like Alec Baldwin to me. __________________ RIP: 3D REALMS 1987 - 2009, you're still dead to me

08-13-2003, 09:14 PM	#11
Kev_Hectic	Re: The previews are flowing Oh and IGN has their preview of Max Payne 2 up... http://pc.ign.com/articles/433/433505p1.html?fromint=1 __________________ RIP: 3D REALMS 1987 - 2009, you're still dead to me

08-13-2003, 09:52 PM	#12
FullMetalJacket	Re: The previews are flowing Thanks for the preview, kev_hectic!!!! Lovely screen here! http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?media_id=1785797&object_id=482121 &channel_id=59&page_title=Max+Payne+2%3A+The+Fall+ of+Max+Payne&adtag=network%3Dign%26size%3D468x60%2 6ch annel%3Dpc%26site%3Dpc_hub%26channel%3Dpreviews%26 type%3Dpartner And look at Max here! http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?media_id=1785926&object_id=482121 &channel_id=59&page_title=Max+Payne+2%3A+The+Fall+ of+Max+Payne&adString=network%3Dign%26site%3Dpchub %26 pagetype%3Dmediaimgthin&return_url=http%3A%2F%2Fpc .ign.com%2Fobjects%2F482%2F482121.html Do you think Remedy simply made a new Max model with damage on him? Or do you think they have a "bolt-on" technology like in SOF2? __________________ AIM screenname: MGamer16 "My father would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy; the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament."

08-14-2003, 01:33 AM	#13
Bushido	Re: The previews are flowing ...simply awesome^^^

08-14-2003, 08:21 AM	#15
KillJoy	Re: The previews are flowing That's because the textures Doom 3 uses in the game are not detail textures. They may be hi res, but they are mainly solid colors. A lot of repeated patterns of textures. I would say that HL2 and MP2 have done a much better job at making the faces look as realistic as possible. In HL2 they have a solid facial animation system, that breathes life into the characters, while MP2 has more geometry and higher res textures on the faces. Doom 3 has ... big ugly guys. __________________ "I wish i had your skill, Killjoy." - Mongorian I'm Merc #3 in the Katana 2 Mod

08-14-2003, 06:40 PM	#18
Co11	Re: The previews are flowing /me hears the hype machine starting to crank up... __________________ For all your Biscuit cleaver needs, go to www.biscuitcleaver.com

08-14-2003, 08:14 PM	#19
Crashnet	Re: The previews are flowing Who's up for just skipping September this year so October will get here faster. Anyone?

08-14-2003, 08:25 PM	#20
KillJoy	Re: The previews are flowing Who likes Labor Day anyway? __________________ "I wish i had your skill, Killjoy." - Mongorian I'm Merc #3 in the Katana 2 Mod

08-14-2003, 08:37 PM	#21
Homoludens	Re: The previews are flowing Um, NOOOO!!! I will NOT skip over September just for Max Payne 2. What, do you really think I'd be stupid enough to jump over Half-Life 2 if it actually is released on 9/30? I look forward to MP2, but I'll be damned if I miss HL2 because of it. [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img]

08-14-2003, 09:11 PM	#22
KillJoy	Re: The previews are flowing 2 days wait "if" HL2 comes out on schedule. __________________ "I wish i had your skill, Killjoy." - Mongorian I'm Merc #3 in the Katana 2 Mod

08-14-2003, 11:35 PM	#23
mysteryperfecta	Re: The previews are flowing The only previews that mean squat to me are hands-on gameplay previews, not descriptions of controlled-environment demo movies (and hands-on previews don't mean much more). Advances in graphics are nice, but I want to know if the gameplay has been taken into newer and better places (although I enjoyed the original's gameplay). __________________ "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.” Thomas Jefferson

08-14-2003, 11:59 PM	#24
Mongorian	Re: The previews are flowing I can't WAIT to see Max Payne 2 in motion...When I saw the Max Payne 1 video that took place in the parking garage, thats what made me buy the game. [img]graemlins/love.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

08-15-2003, 03:07 AM	#25
Jade	Re: The previews are flowing Wow...the screen showing Max injured is only a cutscene or we will see something like in game? It looks great. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "First you must know yourself. Then you can know others."

08-15-2003, 08:41 AM	#26
scorpion	Re: The previews are flowing it looks like it could be a cutscene becase he's leaning on a shelf, i doubt he'll do that in game. Although u never know with the technology they use, but it still is a great screen. __________________ "Why are there six pedals when there are only four directions?" Cabbose "Oh im sorry, i couldn't hear you over your constant team killing" Tucker

08-15-2003, 12:00 PM	#27
Presto	Re: The previews are flowing I'm really starting to get impressed. remedy may have started out as an underdog development team, but look where they're going! __________________ "I'm a tram! I'm a goddamn tram! JING JING!" -Matrixz "Take Two needs to STFU IMO." -George Broussard

08-15-2003, 04:42 PM	#29
Mongorian	Re: The previews are flowing AWESOME LINK JOE! [ 08-15-2003, 05:53 PM: Message edited by: Mongorian ]

08-15-2003, 04:44 PM	#30
Komb.at	Re: The previews are flowing Joe your TVG review link leads to this thread [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] [edit]here it is: http://www.totalvideogames.com/?sect...&format=000007

08-16-2003, 02:12 AM	#32
biXen	Re: The previews are flowing I thought the same thing when I read that, I could have written the preview myself, I seem to have seen just as much as that guy... if not more [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ bee-digital - my new web dev blog Max Payne fan site Alan Wake fan site

08-16-2003, 01:45 PM	#35
maxey	Re: The previews are flowing wow, thanks aavenr. so the shots are fully representative of how the current build of mp2 looks? __________________ Webmaster of Max Payne Zone Webmaster of Alan Wake Zone

08-16-2003, 03:56 PM	#36
TBZ	Re: The previews are flowing aavenr: Thank's for the tip, it was a good read [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] . And the first screen of the game in the screenshot section was completely breath-taking! I mean, I had to pick up the good old jaw from the floor after that one, absolutely beautiful! __________________ After a year in therapy, my psychiatrist said to me, 'Maybe life isn't for everyone.'

08-16-2003, 06:47 PM	#38
scorpion	Re: The previews are flowing ^^ i hope your right. __________________ "Why are there six pedals when there are only four directions?" Cabbose "Oh im sorry, i couldn't hear you over your constant team killing" Tucker

08-16-2003, 07:35 PM	#39
Claws	Re: The previews are flowing So do any of the previews mention anything about gameplay? What's so special about this sequel? Is Remedy introducing anything new? Or am I supposed to be happy about the improved graphics with rehashed gameplay?