DNF Merchandise / Special Edition

Mr.Sociopath · 11-09-2006, 12:01 PM

I wonder if, and how much, and why people would pay more for extras coming with the game... say, special hardware like a weapon-controller which work like old point and shoot nintendo gun(or similar to the wii controllers).. or like the power glove again from nintendo(not a nintendo fan but they have fun controllers through their history)..
or extra hardware like 3d helmet system which let you view like 3d glasses, and hear surround..(this one is a bit far fetched but who knows

)
or extras like in 2 games in one.. the second one being a gta-like massively multiplayer fps chaos city..
or any other ideas you, or they could come up with..

personnaly, I'd pay more for a game that comes with special controller hardware..or other stuff if I judge it's usefull..
how much, I don't know for sure.. for a gun-controller coming with DNF I'd pay double the original price..

brabee · 11-09-2006, 01:42 PM

The only extras I would pay for would be the scrapped versions of DNF

hellrazor · 11-09-2006, 01:42 PM

I would pay for extras, especially hardware (controllers) but nothing too fancy..
I would rather keep that item as a collector's item and not use it with the game, as I know for a fact that I wont be using any other kind of controllers but the mouse and keyboard to play the game.

What i'm really interested in, is perhaps figurines like in prey, some artbooks, bonus dvd, mouse pad... cool stuff like that.

Iggy · 11-09-2006, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hellrazor

What i'm really interested in, is perhaps figurines like in prey, some artbooks, bonus dvd, mouse pad... cool stuff like that.

I would certainly love to see something like that myself too.

hellrazor · 11-09-2006, 01:46 PM

I think thats what people are really looking in to, some really nice Collector's edition package, nicely presented, and as much things as possible inside the box!

alexgk · 11-09-2006, 02:42 PM

Yeah, I think I would.

Phayzon · 11-09-2006, 03:19 PM

Sure. Id prefer they were free, but I wouldnt mind paying.

Amakou · 11-09-2006, 03:31 PM

If it's extras, I want something I'm going to use. Not figurines that are going to sit on a desk, and not some crazy-ass controller. I would be interested in a Duke Nukem Forever Mock-umentary.

~Amakou~

John · 11-09-2006, 07:40 PM

Actually, yeah I'd pay for cool DNF stuff. I liked having the Max Payne and Duke3D mousepads.

DavoX · 11-09-2006, 09:31 PM

I'd pay for DNF itself.

Kalki · 11-10-2006, 01:28 AM

I'll pay for a collector's edition and whatever comes with it. Maybe some additional merchandise too if I can work it into my (pre)order.

hell-angel · 11-10-2006, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalki

I'll pay for a collector's edition and whatever comes with it. Maybe some additional merchandise too if I can work it into my (pre)order.

The same for me, I am not going to pay 200 euros extra for a 3D helmet though (although that is helluva cool

)

Kev9709 · 11-10-2006, 05:39 PM

I'd like to see a "special edition" package with a voucher for a set of books that has a note and/or screenshot from each week of development. All fifty volumes would be shipped right to your door. I'd even buy a bookcase to hold them all.

Old versions of the game would be nice, but as already stated, 3DR doesn't own the rights to those engines so that would make lameDNF's difficult. What's funny is each game from the 1998 and the 2001 E3 trailer looked far superior to anything out at both times, and could have each been sold if they just finished it...both times.

Then again, I'd be happy just to see the game on a shelf.

Joementum · 11-10-2006, 06:54 PM

^

Trailer != Completed Game.

bobthefish · 11-10-2006, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by brabee

The only extras I would pay for would be the scrapped versions of DNF

OMG!!! TOTALLY AGGREE.
(this IS a big hint 3drealms

)

my canadian dollers would be well spent!

bobthefish · 11-10-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kev9709

I'd like to see a "special edition" package with a voucher for a set of books that has a note and/or screenshot from each week of development. All fifty volumes would be shipped right to your door. I'd even buy a bookcase to hold them all.

Old versions of the game would be nice, but as already stated, 3DR doesn't own the rights to those engines so that would make lameDNF's difficult. What's funny is each game from the 1998 and the 2001 E3 trailer looked far superior to anything out at both times, and could have each been sold if they just finished it...both times.

Then again, I'd be happy just to see the game on a shelf.

they dont own the licenses, but as i recall, there was a use of the q2 engine. its open-source, so they can sell it, they would just have to release their source code. (i doubt they are clinging to that anymore)

IceColdDuke · 11-16-2006, 11:25 AM

Id pay for extra modding material thats not included in the game. Extra duke phrases for example.

Kalki · 11-16-2006, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by IceColdDuke

Id pay for extra modding material thats not included in the game. Extra duke phrases for example.

I expect to see stuff like that in the Collector's Ed. UT2k4's CE was apparently a good touchstone for mod-related goodies.

Micki! · 11-16-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by IceColdDuke

Id pay for extra modding material thats not included in the game. Extra duke phrases for example.

It has been suggested be a few that it would be REALLY nice if un-used oneliners/comments etc that didn't make it into the full game, were available with the editor... That way the voices/whatever will not be wasted, and even make it for much better use for custom creations...

I'm not only speaking of Duke, but voices in general, that didn't appear in the full game... (obviously along with the excisting voice-work from the actual game)

FireFly · 11-16-2006, 12:18 PM

I think they should include the placeholder voiceovers done by George.

Kalki · 11-16-2006, 12:28 PM

I'd pay good money to hear "Take 2 should STFU IMO!"

Micki! · 11-16-2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FireFly

I think they should include the placeholder voiceovers done by George.

Hahaha..

IceColdDuke · 11-16-2006, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Micki!

It has been suggested be a few that it would be REALLY nice if un-used oneliners/comments etc that didn't make it into the full game, were available with the editor... That way the voices/whatever will not be wasted, and even make it for much better use for custom creations...

I'm not only speaking of Duke, but voices in general, that didn't appear in the full game... (obviously along with the excisting voice-work from the actual game)

Exactlly Diablo had extra thrown out voices and samples which would be useful if they released the source code for teh game

Mr.Sociopath · 11-17-2006, 11:00 AM

this gave me an idea...
and extra cd/dvd mod , which would replace all sounds and voices in the game by sounds and voices made all by georges with his mouth..including car crash explosion , children and woman talking and screaming.. alien sounds.. everything made by georges's voice.. i'd pay double the price for that

Assault · 11-17-2006, 01:50 PM

If it would include some miniature Duke, Octobrain or Battle Lord, I'd go for it.

Micki! · 11-17-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Sociopath

this gave me an idea...
and extra cd/dvd mod , which would replace all sounds and voices in the game by sounds and voices made all by georges with his mouth..including car crash explosion , children and woman talking and screaming.. alien sounds.. everything made by georges's voice.. i'd pay double the price for that

George's rendition of the shrinker

"BAzz-zzoooóPP-ZANG"

peoplessi · 11-19-2006, 07:15 AM

Art-book, making-of, some interviews and such would be worth of some extra money.

german duke fan · 11-19-2006, 08:44 AM

i would also like those things like figurines, remeber the old duke 3d pigcops with their tiny little pumpguns... that´s cool (i don´t know how u could by those pigcops (but i think there were no special duke3d packs including sth like this))

for a controller like the nintendo wii i would also pay a lot if it works like nintendo says (absolutely analogue controlls so it wpuld be really like having the gun inside u´re hand...) it would be a greater argument to by the game at all, it would really be incomparable, and that´s what a duke game should be..

JMB · 11-19-2006, 02:59 PM

At this point... I'm not sure I would pay a penny over the standard retail price for DNF. If asked years ago, chances are I would have said "hell yes!" Having waited all these years with STILL no signs, losing interest and just forgetting about it; playing plenty of other FPS games and losing interest in the genre in the first place, I would definetly have to have a GOOD reason to even consider putting down more than the standard price for a version with "extra features."

It's honestly got to the point where I don't even know if I would buy it at bargain price... my interest has plummeted *that* much. And even if I did buy it, there's no telling if I could build up enough interest to play it through to the end. I mean... COME ON... it's ****ing 2007 almost! I thought the day I say "I give up" wouldn't come up... but, well, that's exactly what I'm saying now. If DNF comes out, and is good, great. If not... well, I don't think I'll lose any sleep.

Assuming 3DR makes it DX10-only, I will refuse to buy--period--since I have absolutely zero interest in "upgrading" to the newest Windows. I've already switched OSes, and do not plan on looking back. Such a requirement will make my decision infinitely easier.

Kev9709 · 11-19-2006, 09:59 PM

JMB, I wonder how many people like you 3DR is losing each year. If it comes out, people will have to ask their fathers what the hell Duke Nukem is.

JMB · 11-19-2006, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kev9709

JMB, I wonder how many people like you 3DR is losing each year. If it comes out, people will have to ask their fathers what the hell Duke Nukem is.

Good question. Surely it has to be a lot, though... what has it been, around a decade (!) since the last true (ie. not a spinoff, side-story, or unofficial add-on) Duke game came out?

Not really being a PC gamer at all (but still a huge Duke fan for years, since around 13), Duke Forever has... well, forever been my expected "last" PC game (I'm more of a console gamer, really, and actually was never a big fan of FPS games in the first place except on rare occasions).

No doubt, I will check for the news if I *ever* (key word there) hear that DNF will soon be released, and check reviews ASAP... but for once, the reviews will literally make or break my decision to play/buy the game. This is one game that better get as close to a ten as possible and glowing comments all over before I even consider buying. And NOT require a brand-new operating system. Otherwise, I won't even touch it. 3DR is walking on a fine line here, in my opinion.

At this point, I am seriously not sure what to think of the game. Nothing good, so far.

DavoX · 11-20-2006, 06:39 PM

You think that by saying all that 3DR is going to make the game faster for you? don't think so.

If you don't like the genre then that's your problem. There are thousands and thousands of players that still like the genre.

And yes i would pay more for some extras, like the making-of, ditched trailers, videos of earlier builds of the game, etc.

CHFlagg · 11-20-2006, 08:44 PM

I would pay extra for the Directors/Collectors Edition.

I would like to see a t-shirt with the pre-order and other goodies when you pick up the actually game.

Monkey Butler · 11-20-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DavoX

You think that by saying all that 3DR is going to make the game faster for you? don't think so.

Again people miss the point. People saying that they're getting over DNF (usually in tandem with getting over gaming all together) isn't trying to blackmail or coerce 3DR into releasing info, or pushing forward a release date. It's just a simple fact that because the game has been in development for so long, there's going to be a drop-off in the fanbase. People do grow out of things, or they find things more suitable for their excitement (it's hard to stay keen for so long, and makes more sense to move onto other things that will materialise sooner), and that's what JMB is saying. I'm still interested in the game (I'm here, aren't I?) but I think it's unreasonable to expect everyone to be unanimously and unquestionably happy with things now. Thus, people grow out of waiting and move onto other things.

Foxy · 11-21-2006, 06:03 AM

Collecters edition = win.

baff · 11-21-2006, 09:21 AM

A deluxe version with an additional CD key would be worth more to me if it has Multiplayer.

DavoX · 11-21-2006, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkey Butler

Again people miss the point. People saying that they're getting over DNF (usually in tandem with getting over gaming all together) isn't trying to blackmail or coerce 3DR into releasing info, or pushing forward a release date. It's just a simple fact that because the game has been in development for so long, there's going to be a drop-off in the fanbase. People do grow out of things, or they find things more suitable for their excitement (it's hard to stay keen for so long, and makes more sense to move onto other things that will materialise sooner), and that's what JMB is saying. I'm still interested in the game (I'm here, aren't I?) but I think it's unreasonable to expect everyone to be unanimously and unquestionably happy with things now. Thus, people grow out of waiting and move onto other things.

And why do you think 3DR even cares about who wanted the game 10 years ago? they want the people that play games NOW to like it. That's why they are taking so long, because they not only have to bring a fun game but also a game with good graphics and other "today" features that even new gamers would like. Again, they don't give a damn about wheter someone got tired of DNF or not.

If you got tired of DNF, don't post it here. Simple as that, right? 3DR doesn't bother about that fact, So why even post about it?

Monkey Butler · 11-21-2006, 08:16 PM

Because people aren't posting to talk to 3DR, they're posting to talk to other people. Remember how this is a forum? Yeah, that means it's for anyone to voice their opinions on DNF and its progress.

mr. pinky demon · 11-21-2006, 09:03 PM

But recently anyone who does Post a thread about there opinions on release dates or anything like that gets banned or threads deleted.

DavoX · 11-21-2006, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkey Butler

Because people aren't posting to talk to 3DR, they're posting to talk to other people. Remember how this is a forum? Yeah, that means it's for anyone to voice their opinions on DNF and its progress.

Are you really that naive to think that JMB wasn't talking to 3DR? Come on...

11-09-2006, 12:01 PM	#1
Mr.Sociopath	DNF Merchandise / Special Edition I wonder if, and how much, and why people would pay more for extras coming with the game... say, special hardware like a weapon-controller which work like old point and shoot nintendo gun(or similar to the wii controllers).. or like the power glove again from nintendo(not a nintendo fan but they have fun controllers through their history).. or extra hardware like 3d helmet system which let you view like 3d glasses, and hear surround..(this one is a bit far fetched but who knows ) or extras like in 2 games in one.. the second one being a gta-like massively multiplayer fps chaos city.. or any other ideas you, or they could come up with.. personnaly, I'd pay more for a game that comes with special controller hardware..or other stuff if I judge it's usefull.. how much, I don't know for sure.. for a gun-controller coming with DNF I'd pay double the original price.. Last edited by Mr.Sociopath; 11-09-2006 at 12:04 PM.

11-09-2006, 01:42 PM	#2
brabee	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? The only extras I would pay for would be the scrapped versions of DNF

11-09-2006, 01:42 PM	#3
hellrazor	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? I would pay for extras, especially hardware (controllers) but nothing too fancy.. I would rather keep that item as a collector's item and not use it with the game, as I know for a fact that I wont be using any other kind of controllers but the mouse and keyboard to play the game. What i'm really interested in, is perhaps figurines like in prey, some artbooks, bonus dvd, mouse pad... cool stuff like that.

11-09-2006, 01:46 PM	#5
hellrazor	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? I think thats what people are really looking in to, some really nice Collector's edition package, nicely presented, and as much things as possible inside the box!

11-09-2006, 02:42 PM	#6
alexgk	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? Yeah, I think I would. __________________ Playable demo this year! Confirmed!!

11-09-2006, 03:19 PM	#7
Phayzon	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? Sure. Id prefer they were free, but I wouldnt mind paying. __________________ I made the first post on the VB! "So I guess the news here is that not only is Australia the last to get anything new in regard to videogames, they're also the first to get them taken away." - LeadBullet "We're part-time internet superheros." - Hudson

11-09-2006, 03:31 PM	#8
Amakou	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? If it's extras, I want something I'm going to use. Not figurines that are going to sit on a desk, and not some crazy-ass controller. I would be interested in a Duke Nukem Forever Mock-umentary. ~Amakou~ __________________ I'm a Hitman fan It'll be done When It's Done!

11-09-2006, 07:40 PM	#9
John	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? Actually, yeah I'd pay for cool DNF stuff. I liked having the Max Payne and Duke3D mousepads. __________________ Duke4.net Let not mankind bogart love. [A pessimist is what an optimist defines as a realist.]

11-09-2006, 09:31 PM	#10
DavoX	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? I'd pay for DNF itself. __________________ My Facebook Page for Game Design, Check it out! My Youtube Channel, With mapster32 tutorials!

11-10-2006, 01:28 AM	#11
Kalki	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? I'll pay for a collector's edition and whatever comes with it. Maybe some additional merchandise too if I can work it into my (pre)order. __________________ "Gentlemen, generations to follow will see us as the first pioneers of the internet. They will look upon our days as those of brave spirits and free ideals - where men were men, women were men and children were the FBI." Free Speech

11-10-2006, 05:39 PM	#13
Kev9709	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? I'd like to see a "special edition" package with a voucher for a set of books that has a note and/or screenshot from each week of development. All fifty volumes would be shipped right to your door. I'd even buy a bookcase to hold them all. Old versions of the game would be nice, but as already stated, 3DR doesn't own the rights to those engines so that would make lameDNF's difficult. What's funny is each game from the 1998 and the 2001 E3 trailer looked far superior to anything out at both times, and could have each been sold if they just finished it...both times. Then again, I'd be happy just to see the game on a shelf.

11-10-2006, 06:54 PM	#14
Joementum	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? ^ Trailer != Completed Game.

11-16-2006, 11:25 AM	#17
IceColdDuke	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? Id pay for extra modding material thats not included in the game. Extra duke phrases for example.

11-16-2006, 12:18 PM	#20
FireFly	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? I think they should include the placeholder voiceovers done by George. __________________ "I think the push for people to innovate in gameplay - i'm not sure that I particularly agree with it" John Carmack

11-16-2006, 12:28 PM	#21
Kalki	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? I'd pay good money to hear "Take 2 should STFU IMO!" __________________ "Gentlemen, generations to follow will see us as the first pioneers of the internet. They will look upon our days as those of brave spirits and free ideals - where men were men, women were men and children were the FBI." Free Speech

11-17-2006, 11:00 AM	#24
Mr.Sociopath	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? this gave me an idea... and extra cd/dvd mod , which would replace all sounds and voices in the game by sounds and voices made all by georges with his mouth..including car crash explosion , children and woman talking and screaming.. alien sounds.. everything made by georges's voice.. i'd pay double the price for that

11-17-2006, 01:50 PM	#25
Assault	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? If it would include some miniature Duke, Octobrain or Battle Lord, I'd go for it.

11-19-2006, 07:15 AM	#27
peoplessi	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? Art-book, making-of, some interviews and such would be worth of some extra money. __________________ Duke Nukem Forever Who am I to judge?

11-19-2006, 08:44 AM	#28
german duke fan	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? i would also like those things like figurines, remeber the old duke 3d pigcops with their tiny little pumpguns... that´s cool (i don´t know how u could by those pigcops (but i think there were no special duke3d packs including sth like this)) for a controller like the nintendo wii i would also pay a lot if it works like nintendo says (absolutely analogue controlls so it wpuld be really like having the gun inside u´re hand...) it would be a greater argument to by the game at all, it would really be incomparable, and that´s what a duke game should be..

11-19-2006, 02:59 PM	#29
JMB	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? At this point... I'm not sure I would pay a penny over the standard retail price for DNF. If asked years ago, chances are I would have said "hell yes!" Having waited all these years with STILL no signs, losing interest and just forgetting about it; playing plenty of other FPS games and losing interest in the genre in the first place, I would definetly have to have a GOOD reason to even consider putting down more than the standard price for a version with "extra features." It's honestly got to the point where I don't even know if I would buy it at bargain price... my interest has plummeted that much. And even if I did buy it, there's no telling if I could build up enough interest to play it through to the end. I mean... COME ON... it's ****ing 2007 almost! I thought the day I say "I give up" wouldn't come up... but, well, that's exactly what I'm saying now. If DNF comes out, and is good, great. If not... well, I don't think I'll lose any sleep. Assuming 3DR makes it DX10-only, I will refuse to buy--period--since I have absolutely zero interest in "upgrading" to the newest Windows. I've already switched OSes, and do not plan on looking back. Such a requirement will make my decision infinitely easier.

11-19-2006, 09:59 PM	#30
Kev9709	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? JMB, I wonder how many people like you 3DR is losing each year. If it comes out, people will have to ask their fathers what the hell Duke Nukem is.

11-20-2006, 06:39 PM	#32
DavoX	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? You think that by saying all that 3DR is going to make the game faster for you? don't think so. If you don't like the genre then that's your problem. There are thousands and thousands of players that still like the genre. And yes i would pay more for some extras, like the making-of, ditched trailers, videos of earlier builds of the game, etc. __________________ My Facebook Page for Game Design, Check it out! My Youtube Channel, With mapster32 tutorials!

11-20-2006, 08:44 PM	#33
CHFlagg	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? I would pay extra for the Directors/Collectors Edition. I would like to see a t-shirt with the pre-order and other goodies when you pick up the actually game. __________________ The Grumpy Old Lady www.abundantcarepackages.com

11-21-2006, 06:03 AM	#35
Foxy	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? Collecters edition = win.

11-21-2006, 09:21 AM	#36
baff	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? A deluxe version with an additional CD key would be worth more to me if it has Multiplayer.

11-21-2006, 08:16 PM	#38
Monkey Butler	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? Because people aren't posting to talk to 3DR, they're posting to talk to other people. Remember how this is a forum? Yeah, that means it's for anyone to voice their opinions on DNF and its progress.

11-21-2006, 09:03 PM	#39
mr. pinky demon	Re: Would you pay more for extras with DNF? But recently anyone who does Post a thread about there opinions on release dates or anything like that gets banned or threads deleted.