My copy of DN3D is confused...

[Ninety-Six]

(I think this is the right board...If I'm wrong, I apologize now. Yes, I'm new here. Still trying to get used to this place.)

So, anyway...I recently got a new copy of Atomic Edition, (My old DN3DAE was lost during a recent move) and it still has the same problem as my old one: It does not know what it's supposed to play. What do I mean? I mean it can't tell if it is supposed to be Duke D.C. or just the regular AE. On the title screen, where the Duke Nukem ATOMIC thing comes up, the "Duke it out in D.C." emblem is on the screen. Yet when I hit New Game, it shows the standard "Shrapnel City." And that's not all. My save game data has two Duke D.C. files. One from Nuked Files, and...Nuke Proof? It think that's the name...the last one. ANyway, I can acess these, and play from that point. If I manage to die and hit reset, I'm taken to the equivalent level is Shrapnel City. Same thing if I finish; I go to the next level in line according to Shrapnel City.

AND, to top it off, I still have all the Duke D.C. map files as just that; map files. I haven't been able to run DC in years, (mostly because GAMER doesn't work anymore) yet most of its data is still on the computer. Which is weird, considering I used to have Carribean and Nuclear Winter, of which there is no trace of either. What's going on?

And on a side note, I just got eDuke. So I can finally acess those DC map files. They still work, but the default music is E1's Red Light District's, I have to change it, and every time I beat a level, I'm whicsked to Hollywood Holocaust. So then I have to start with just the pistol each time.
Also, is there any way to get the game demos to play at the main menu again?

[Radar1013]

Allright man, i'll try and help but your problem sounds very confusing.

Stp.1 Make an empty folder anywhere on your computer

Stp.2 Find the file named "DUKE3D.GRP" on your disk and copy and paste it into the empty folder

Stp.3 Download the lastest version of EDuke32 from here: http://wiki.eduke32.com/stuff/eduke32_current.zip

Stp.4 Copy all of the contents from the .ZIP you just downloaded and copy it to the folder.

Stp.5 Run "eduke32.exe" and everything should run fine.....


If you still have problems, post about them here. And also post the file named "eduke32.log" if you can.

[Ninety-Six]

Sorry, but that didn't help at all. ;_;

[MrBlackCat]

I remember back when WizardWorks came out with these awesome add-ons, Duke Caribbean, Nuclear Winter, and of course Duke it out in D.C.

For my friends and relatives, I fixed many of the problems associated with these add-ons and others conversions back then. But how I solved most all of the problems, back in the DOS days, was to create seperate Directories for EACH conversion or TC, period. Duke Nukem is not that big where this is not a very reasonable thing to do.
I did a full install of Duke 3D or Duke Atomic (whichever the add-on required, and they are different), ran it to verify installation, and then installed above listed and many other add-on packs.

My directory structure looks like this...
C:\3DVR\DukeShar (Duke ShareWare)
C:\3DVR\Duke_v11 (multiples with different versions)
C:\3DVR\Duke_v13 "" ""
C:\3DVR\DukeAtom (Atomic Edition)
C:\3DVR\DukeCar (Duke Caribbean)
C:\3DVR\Duke_DC (Duke it out in DC)
C:\3DVR\Duke_NW (Duke Nuclear Winter)
3DVR just was 3D Virtual Reality, a term I adopted early to seperate early First Person Shooters from Side Scrollers like Duke 1&2, Halloween Harry <insert 150 other games here>

I have never had problems running these this way, but I also run DOS for these games, so none of the above may apply or help.

The way these add-ons switch things around can go wrong, so I never put the programs in the positions to make these errors. Once I add the conversion or Add-On, I didn't change it... and my DOS menu system was updated to load the correct start up file for each add-on version.

MrBlackCat

[Ninety-Six]

SOmething went terribly wrong with the new eDuke...on some elvels, the music doesn't start, and if you go to any other level, the music will never play.

ANd is there anyway to ge tthe Title Screen gameplay demos with eDuke?

[hammer oz]

Originally Posted by Ninety-Six

SOmething went terribly wrong with the new eDuke...on some elvels, the music doesn't start, and if you go to any other level, the music will never play.

ANd is there anyway to ge tthe Title Screen gameplay demos with eDuke?

i dont think demos work with eduke iv got the latest version of it and i even used record to make my own demos but they didnt work either so i dont think demos work with eduke

[The Commander]

Originally Posted by Ninety-Six

SOmething went terribly wrong with the new eDuke...on some elvels, the music doesn't start, and if you go to any other level, the music will never play.

You probley have the sound muted in the "Volume Control" panel of Windows. (if thats what you are using) XP seems to enjoy muting the midi control if any midi files are played through Windows media player.

Also, if you could'nt understand Radar's instructions on how to get Duke running then I don't know how else to help you. The instructions he provided are pretty simple to understand.

Also again, the original demo files will not work with Eduke32, only demo files recorded with Eduke32 will work with Eduke32.

[Ninety-Six]

Oh, it's not that I didn't understand the insturctions, it's just that I tried it and it didn't work.

And it's not volume control, because when I exit and restar the game, the music comes back. THere's usually a / in front of the song name when this happens. (/Inhidng.Midi for example.)

[Radar1013]

um, i have all my faith put into the fact that you just don't understand the intrustions. I honestly dout that you simply "tried it and it didn't work".

Wait, how on earth is it even possible for your DUKE3D.GRP file from your Atomic Edition CD to have Duke It Out In D.C. in it? Do you by any chance have a pirated version? I know you said that you had an actual hard copy of the game, but seriously what else am i supposed to think.......

Unless of course you tried installing DukeDC after reading my intructions, which clearly wasn't in them. Just simply taking the .map files and dumping them in your directory isn't going to work. The process to install DukeDC is more complex then that.

But the music problem... that sounds more like your computer is messed up.

[Ninety-Six]

I had hard copies of both. The D.C. disk was lost years ago, and it is not a pirated version. If I wasn't so secretive about my address, I would show the 3D Realms order form-thing, since I ordered D3D right from them.
I honestly don't know why DC is still "installed." (I use the term lightly) That's why I made this thread. Tog et some answers.

[Radar1013]

post the file named "eduke32.log" that should be created in the directory right after you get out of EDuke32. Maybe that could help.

[Ninety-Six]

Hmm...For some reason, when I move it to a new folder, it says it can't find Duke3D.cfg. That's why I say it doesn't work. Only when I move something does that message appear, though. I take it that has something to do with directories, but I have no idea how to set those. >.<

[Radar1013]

What is "it"? What is "it" that you moved to a different folder? Try and be as specific as you can dude, It will help us out a lot to try and figure out whats the problem with your game.

I'm am pretty sure that the new versions of EDuke32 should set Duke3d.cfg themselves. Are you sure you have the latest snapshot, the one i posted? Are you sure you are ONLY moving DUKE3D.GRP from your CD and not the whole directory from your CD?

Please post the "eduke32.log" file

[Hendricks266]

Originally Posted by Ninety-Six

Hmm...For some reason, when I move it to a new folder, it says it can't find Duke3D.cfg. That's why I say it doesn't work. Only when I move something does that message appear, though. I take it that has something to do with directories, but I have no idea how to set those. >.<

Run SETUP.EXE.

[Radar1013]

setup.exe is not included with the newest snapshot downloads of EDuke32, which was all i told him to download. Setup.exe isn't really all that nesecary, since all of the things that it was used for are now put in the game and are changable in the options menu.

[Ninety-Six]

By "It," I meant...I don't remember. Point taken.

When I manually search the CD files, I don't find Duke3D.cfg. So I just copy-paste certain files. I know now that certain .CON files don't like mods, that sovles some mysteries. BUt it still doens't work right.

ANd for the log, what do you want me to bring up? I realize that the log changes everytime to start up eDuke, wether it be Duke 3D or some mod. DO you want me to start it up normally and copypaste the log?

[Radar1013]

yup, copy and paste the log.

and notice that i'm not saying for you to copy DUKE3D.CFG from your CD, but DUKE3D.GRP from your CD.

[Ninety-Six]

EDuke32 1.5.0devel 20090131
addsearchpath(): Added D:/DUKE3D/
OS: Windows XP (5.1.2600) Service Pack 1
Loading opengl32.dll
Loading glu32.dll
Initializing DirectDraw...
Using config file 'eduke32.cfg'.
Scanning for GRP files...
addsearchpath(): Added D:/DUKE3D/DUKE3D/
Using group file 'duke3d.grp' as main group file.
Using group file 'DUKE3D/DUKE3D.GRP'.
Compiling: GAME.CON (151190 bytes)
Including: DEFS.CON (35992 bytes)
Including: USER.CON (45482 bytes)
GAME.CON: In actor `ORGANTIC':
GAME.CON:3968: warning: found `else' with no `if'.
GAME.CON: In state `pigshootenemystate':
GAME.CON:5891: warning: found `else' with no `if'.
Found 2 warning(s), 0 error(s).
Resizing code buffer to 16187*4 bytes
Script compiled in 52ms
Compiled code size: 16179*4 bytes, version 1.4+
Pointer bitmap size: 2024 bytes
1917/11264 labels, 308/2048 variables
125/16384 quotes, 0 quote redefinitions
0/88 event definitions, 207 defined actors
Initialized 32.0M cache
Using .RTS file 'DUKE.RTS'
Initializing OSD...
Using keyboard layout 00000409
Initializing DirectInput...
  - Enumerating attached input devices
    * MOUSE: Mouse
    * KEYBOARD: Keyboard
    * OTHER: Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000
    * JOYSTICK: GGE909 PC Recoil Pad
    * JOYSTICK: GGE909 PC Recoil Pad
Joystick has 4 axes, 12 buttons, and 1 hat(s).
Setting video mode 320x240 (8-bit fullscreen)
Initializing music...
Loading OpenAL32.DLL
Failed loading OpenAL driver.
Download OpenAL 1.1 or greater from http://www.openal.org/downloads.html
Initializing sound...
Initializing MultiVoc... 
  - 8 voices, 224 byte mixing buffers
Initializing DirectSound...
  - Primary buffer format: 2 ch, 8000Hz, 16 bits
  - Creating secondary buffer
Executing "eduke32_binds.cfg"
Cache time: 937ms
E1L8: USER MAP
dethtoll.mid.  USE SHIFT-F5 TO CHANGE.
LARGE MEDKIT: +30
dethtoll.mid.  USE SHIFT-F5 TO CHANGE.
/intents.mid.  USE SHIFT-F5 TO CHANGE.
SHOTGUN
GOT USED ARMOR
AMMO FOR SHOTGUN
AMMO FOR SHOTGUN
AMMO FOR PISTOL!
AMMO FOR SHOTGUN
LARGE MEDKIT: +30
ARMOR
AMMO FOR PISTOL!
AMMO FOR CHAINGUN CANNON!
PORTABLE MEDKIT
A SECRET PLACE!
PIPEBOMB!
AMMO FOR SHOTGUN
GOT USED ARMOR
AMMO FOR CHAINGUN CANNON!
AMMO FOR CHAINGUN CANNON!
PORTABLE MEDKIT
ARMOR
AMMO FOR PISTOL!
CHAINGUN CANNON!
AMMO FOR SHOTGUN
AMMO FOR SHOTGUN
STEROIDS
PIPEBOMB!
ATOMIC HEALTH!
GOT USED ARMOR
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 144: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 144: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
AMMO FOR CHAINGUN CANNON!
ACCESS CARD
AMMO FOR PISTOL!
UNLOCKED
AMMO FOR SHOTGUN
ACCESS CARD
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
AMMO FOR CHAINGUN CANNON!
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 143: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
Sound error 144: Invalid WAV file passed in to Multivoc.
UNLOCKED
Map /E1L9.map not found!
Cache time: 244ms
E1L8: USER MAP
dethtoll.mid.  USE SHIFT-F5 TO CHANGE.
UDP net deinitialized successfully.
 
Uninitializing MultiVoc...
Uninitializing DirectSound...
Uninitializing DirectInput...
Wrote eduke32.cfg
Wrote eduke32_binds.cfg
Uninitializing DirectDraw...

[The Commander]

Im still not sure what you don't understand to get Duke Nukem running. Place the 3 files that are in the following picture in to a EMPTY FOLDER WITH NOTHIING ELSE and RUN EDUKE32.EXE and say YES to each box that comes up. It's that simple.

[Ninety-Six]

So THAT'S the .grp file...

[Dopefish7590]

Yes, most of the time Windows recognizes it as a "Microsoft program group".

[Ninety-Six]

Ah, and that's why I kept missing it.

[hammer oz]

Originally Posted by Ninety-Six

SOmething went terribly wrong with the new eDuke...on some elvels, the music doesn't start, and if you go to any other level, the music will never play.

ANd is there anyway to ge tthe Title Screen gameplay demos with eDuke?

mines going nuts as well to some the music sometimes doesn't play for me either and all of the textures on the walls ceiling floor sky etc are all stuffing up i think u may be right that the new eduke is dodgy

[The Commander]

Originally Posted by hammer oz

mines going nuts as well to some the music sometimes doesn't play for me either and all of the textures on the walls ceiling floor sky etc are all stuffing up i think u may be right that the new eduke is dodgy

No, Its because you admited in another thread that you are using a pirated version of Duke, Hammer Oz so there for it is most likely is missing the original files that are needed. Go buy the game from 3D Realms before you can have any say to what his problem is. I DO NOT condone piracy at all.

And the problem with the music is that if you open any midis in Windows Media Player you sound volume for midi will be muted and you have to turn it back on in the start menu.

[Hendricks266]

Are you sure you aren't using the shareware? It will not work with the HRP at all.

[Ninety-Six]

What? No, I don't even have the HRP. (I'm wating until a little futher down the line)
And I have the AE 1.5. Not the shareware. I have all four episodes.
No pirate, no shareware.

[Hendricks266]

Install OpenAL and use the attached .cfg file. It will improve your Duke experience.

Are you still having problems? What's your graphics card?

[Radar1013]

make sure you also download the SDK ninety six:

http://connect.creativelabs.com/open...L11CoreSDK.zip

[The Commander]

Originally Posted by Radar1013

make sure you also download the SDK ninety six:

http://connect.creativelabs.com/open...L11CoreSDK.zip

You dont need the SDK to play with .ogg, Only if you are compiling the sorce.

[Radar1013]

oh... Thanks for the info commander.

Originally Posted by The Commander

No, Its because you admited in another thread that you are using a pirated version of Duke, Hammer Oz so there for it is most likely is missing the original files that are needed. Go buy the game from 3D Realms before you can have any say to what his problem is. I DO NOT condone piracy at all.

What? He actually ADMIITED that right on the 3D Realms forums? wow, i honestly think he should be banned really...

[Parkar]

Originally Posted by Ninety-Six

Ah, and that's why I kept missing it.

Situations like these makes me wonder why on earth hiding file extensions by default is supposed to be user friendly.

[hammer oz]

Originally Posted by The Commander

No, Its because you admited in another thread that you are using a pirated version of Duke, Hammer Oz so there for it is most likely is missing the original files that are needed. Go buy the game from 3D Realms before you can have any say to what his problem is. I DO NOT condone piracy at all.

And the problem with the music is that if you open any midis in Windows Media Player you sound volume for midi will be muted and you have to turn it back on in the start menu.

im not using a pirated version of duke 3d i downloaded it from gog.com thank you damn well much i payed for it far and square

---------- Post added at 06:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:40 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Radar1013

oh... Thanks for the info commander.



What? He actually ADMIITED that right on the 3D Realms forums? wow, i honestly think he should be banned really...

i never admitted to using a pirated version of duke 3d have you actually got any proof that i admitted it?

[The Commander]

Originally Posted by hammer oz

i never admitted to using a pirated version of duke 3d have you actually got any proof that i admitted it?

The posts were removed by a mod for obvious reasons.

[hammer oz]

i posted that comment becuase iggy posted a picture of a guy selling duke nukem land of the babes for $10.000.00
approximatly us $15.o42.00

oh and it was meant as a joke to i wasnt thinking straight and im sorry if anyone tok offence by that comment