Duke Plus 1.8

[themaniacboy]

Originally Posted by DeeperThought

Well, if you insist, here are the problems with that:

1. Kicking doors open only makes sense on unlocked swing doors that open the correct direction relative to the player. So I would have to write code to make sure the situation is appropriate (a pain).
2. It wouldn't be at all useful because it would work only in limited situations (see 1) and the player can open doors faster by pressing the open key (which instantly opens the door instead of waiting for his foot to come out).
3. Therefore it is a lot of work to implement a feature that no one would use.

Being able to shoot doors open, on the other hand, is potentially useful.

ok,than its not usefull,but its duke style to kick doors open
its unnecessary but fun

[Kenny mckormick]

Deleting the Texcache can resolve a lot of problem (With DP too) maybe says that in the DPDOC?

(it's little but not so stupid =P)

[jagguar20]

Dude this is so great, it's like playing DNF in 1998!!!

[themaniacboy]

Originally Posted by jagguar20

Dude this is so great, it's like playing DNF in 1998!!!

only its not DNF

[Kenny mckormick]

Doublemonster&ammo do some bug...

Some level just cannot be launched...I try to deleting texcache so this time is no that...

But Bank roll cannot be launched with the option of double monster...

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by Kenny mckormick

Doublemonster&ammo do some bug...

Some level just cannot be launched...I try to deleting texcache so this time is no that...

But Bank roll&First level of Lunar apocalypse cannot be launched with the option of double monster...

I'll look into that. I should add a warning somewhere about that, because that option adds a lot of sprites to the map and could cause a too many sprites spawned error or other problems. However, those two maps you mentioned were made under the old limits and shouldn't be a problem.

[Chip]

Originally Posted by themaniacboy

only its not DNF

Nor 1998.

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by Kenny mckormick

Doublemonster&ammo do some bug...

Some level just cannot be launched...I try to deleting texcache so this time is no that...

But Bank roll cannot be launched with the option of double monster...

I just launched that level using the doubled option and I had no problems. If you want me to try to figure out why it didn't work in your case you will have to post a copy of your eduke32.log the next time it fails.

[themaniacboy]

Originally Posted by Chip

Nor 1998.

haha yes

[Mateos]

And the bug I reported ? ;D

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by Mateos

And the bug I reported ? ;D

Sorry, I didn't see your bug report until now. I mirrored E1L1 and could not get that result. I have some questions:

1) Does it happen every time?
2) Is it a problem with the level structure, or it is just a visual glitch when in that window?
3) Can you send me a saved game file from when this is happening?

[Kenny mckormick]

The eduke32.log contain nothing about the bug,because the level don't have to time to start,eduke32 close and back window without Error message...

EDuke32 1.5.0devel (Aug 22 2008 19:17:52)
Copyright (c) 1996, 2003 3D Realms Entertainment
Copyright (c) 2008 EDuke32 team
addsearchpath(): Added D:/eduke32/
OS: Windows XP (5.1.2600) Service Pack 2
Loading opengl32.dll
Loading glu32.dll
Initializing DirectDraw...
Using config file 'duke3d.cfg'.
Scanning for GRP files...
Found 22 recognized GRP files.
addsearchpath(): Added D:/eduke32/DukePlus/
addsearchpath(): Added DukePlus/
Using group file 'duke3d.grp' as main group file.
Compiling: EDUKE.CON (27 bytes)
Including: dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON (596974 bytes)
Increasing script buffer size to 1331904 bytes...
Using DEF file: dukeplus.def.
Wrote duke3d.cfg
Wrote duke3d_binds.cfg
Using config file 'DukePlus/dp.cfg'.
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/DPDEFS.CON (35650 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/DPUSER.CON (45450 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/USERPLUS.CON (75159 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON (20598 bytes)
Compiled code size: 328880 bytes, version 1.4+
2608/11264 labels, 574/2048 variables
29 event definitions, 354 defined actors
mmulti: This machine's IP is 192.168.1.174
Initializing DirectInput...
- Enumerating attached input devices
* MOUSE: Souris
* KEYBOARD: Clavier
Initialized 32.0 megabyte cache
Warning: Failed including duke3d.def on line dukeplus.def:1
Warning: Failed loading MD2/MD3 model "highres/sprites/firstperson/2524_pistol.md3"
Warning: Failed loading MD2/MD3 model "highres/sprites/firstperson/2530_clip.md3"
Warning: Failed loading MD2/MD3 model "highres/sprites/firstperson/2532_cliphand.md3"
Warning: Failed loading MD2/MD3 model "highres/sprites/characters/1405_duke.md3"
Definitions file 'dukeplus.def' loaded.
RTS file DUKE.RTS was not found
Initializing OSD...
Setting video mode 1024x768 (32-bit fullscreen)
OpenGL Information:
Version: 2.1.2
Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer: GeForce 7600 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!
Initializing music...
Loading OpenAL32.DLL
OpenAL Information:
Version: 1.1
Vendor: Creative Labs Inc.
Renderer: Software
Initializing sound...
Initializing MultiVoc...
- 32 voices, 1392 byte mixing buffers
Initializing DirectSound...
- Primary buffer format: 2 ch, 48000Hz, 16 bits
- Creating secondary buffer
Executing "DukePlus/dp_binds.cfg"
Cache time: 118ms
E3L2: BANK ROLL //Without double monster
Cache time: 216ms
E1L1: HOLLYWOOD HOLOCAUST //with Double monster

and after i launch E3L2.Map and...bug

oh and you see the MP5 bug?If you have 0 ammo the MP5 reload too...

edit: With random attribute,BOSS2 NOT PAL can be spawned...Or he is pal but he end the game...

[deathgod]

Found a bug, when i pick up the double barreled shotgun i lose the other shotgun cruiser or not.

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by Kenny mckormick

The eduke32.log contain nothing about the bug,because the level don't have to time to start,eduke32 close and back window without Error message...

E1L1: HOLLYWOOD HOLOCAUST //with Double monster

and after i launch E3L2.Map and...bug

oh and you see the MP5 bug?If you have 0 ammo the MP5 reload too...

edit: With random attribute,BOSS2 NOT PAL can be spawned...Or he is pal but he end the game...

The doubled monsters option can make the game quit. I'm not sure why (it isn't too many sprites spawned) but I'll try to figure it out. Until then, you can always turn the option off. If you can't get any level to start, you can turn it off by editing the dp.cfg

Mp5 bug noted

That randomized miniboss spawning with pal 0 bug is amazingly persistent. I have "fixed" it, or partially fixed it, about three times now. I'll try again.

Originally Posted by deathgod

Found a bug, when i pick up the double barreled shotgun i lose the other shotgun cruiser or not.

That can happen if you pick one up when you have the menu option for alternative shotguns turned off. It doesn't make any sense for that to happen if the other shotgun is the Cruizer shotgun, but I'll look into it.

[Kenny mckormick]

Yes of course,the double monster is not so important...

But maybe desactive the double effect on turret?That don't really nice because the 2nd turret "fly" a lot of time

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by Kenny mckormick

But maybe desactive the double effect on turret?That don't really nice because the 2nd turret "fly" a lot of time

Good point. I'll make it give the turrets doubled hit points instead.

I had originally made the doubled monster feature to go with the doubled map size feature, by the way. It works better with that.

[DeeperThought]

Duke Plus version 1.81 released.
This is a bug fix release:
Changelog
-Reverted to the old method of having DP load the player's normal DEFS.CON and USER.CON, rather then DP's own versions of these. I realized that loading special DP copies of these was preventing people from using the HRP music and other custom content specified in their CONs. The downside to this is it means I will get false bug reports again from people trying to use non-Atomic CONs with Duke Plus.
-Added the nocompress parameter to the texture defs AGAIN, this time in the correct place
-Fixed some bugs with the turrets that are attached to Sentry Drones (like the ones in Project Zero)
-Includes a version of Project Zero with minor improvements
-Reduced the max speed at which a monster can be knocked back, in an attempt to prevent glitches
-Fixed a bug which caused the MP5 to show the reloading animation when it ran out of bullets
-Made some tweaks to the monster doubling and randomized monster features in an attempt to fix bugs (not sure if they are fixed)
-Fixed a bug where after picking up the double barreled shotgun it could become impossible to switch to the other shotgun
-Includes the latest EDuke32 which compiles the CONs much faster, resulting in a shorter startup time

[Parkar]

Doesn't the music use defines in def files to replace the midi?

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by Parkar

Doesn't the music use defines in def files to replace the midi?

eh? I assumed it used a modified USER.CON to do that. At any rate, there were plenty of other reasons to switch back to using the regular USER and DEFS cons (namely custom sounds and episodes)

[Kenny mckormick]

Have you added or something like the double barrelled shotgun to the random drop?

[Mateos]

Originally Posted by DeeperThought

Sorry, I didn't see your bug report until now. I mirrored E1L1 and could not get that result. I have some questions:

1) Does it happen every time?
2) Is it a problem with the level structure, or it is just a visual glitch when in that window?
3) Can you send me a saved game file from when this is happening?

1) Yes.
2) I think it's a visual glitch only. And it's on all windows.
3) Yes, I'm uploading.

Edit :
http://www.poweruploader.net/download_kALGMq.htm

Edit 2 :
I want to say thx to you, for your hard work and fast releases.

[themaniacboy]

Deeperthought sorry for bothering you again but got problems with DP effect map.

when i grab an ledge i move to the left (so i can get to the other side) but the problem is he is holding it.

if i grab the ledge and move to the left with the forward key (a and w) he doesnt hold the ledge and just fall down.

any suggestions ?

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by themaniacboy

Deeperthought sorry for bothering you again but got problems with DP effect map.

when i grab an ledge i move to the left (so i can get to the other side) but the problem is he is holding it.

if i grab the ledge and move to the left with the forward key (a and w) he doesnt hold the ledge and just fall down.

any suggestions ?

Use the strafe keys to move left and right while mantling. If you turn away from the wall, you will drop off. Press jump to pull yourself up.

[themaniacboy]

Originally Posted by DeeperThought

Use the strafe keys to move left and right while mantling. If you turn away from the wall, you will drop off. Press jump to pull yourself up.

so when i hang on it,i only got to strafe ?

i tried that but just falls off

[themaniacboy]

oow yea an suggestion for your next release

maybe you could add shoot effects ?
like flashes and a shotgun that goes up when you shoot,do you get it ?

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by themaniacboy

so when i hang on it,i only got to strafe ?

i tried that but just falls off

Yes, just strafe and continue to face the ledge that you are grabbing. It works fine. You are the only person who has ever had a problem with it.

[XTHX2]

Hmm I've been thinking about this suggestion for some time, but it requires some specific situations that should be mapped that way in build. What about double sided swing doors? For example;

=>|| ----- => ==

=> is the player

|| is the normal door.

== is the door when it's open.

That's normal. But what about also making the door;

|| <= ----- == <=

The same door, but if you open it from the other side, it goes to the opposite direction. I hope I have managed to explain :s

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by XTHX2

Hmm I've been thinking about this suggestion for some time, but it requires some specific situations that should be mapped that way in build. What about double sided swing doors? For example;

=>|| ---- => ==

=> is the player

|| is the normal door.

== is the door when it's open.

That's normal. But what about also making the door;

|| <= ----- == <=

The same door, but if you open it from the other side, it goes to the opposite direction. I hope I have managed to explain :s

LOL, I understood the moment I read "double-sided swing doors". I mean, what else would that be?

The cool version of what you are suggesting would be doors that you can just push open with your body, then they swing back and forth in decreasing amounts for a few moments until returning to their closed position (like the doors outside of saloons in westerns).

[XTHX2]

Originally Posted by DeeperThought

LOL, I understood the moment I read "double-sided swing doors". I mean, what else would that be?

Well, I wanted to be sure....( You know why )

EDIT : That would work too. Actually, that would be extremely nice. The problem with that would be probably other enemies/actors blocking the door... It's also a problem in general. Maybe you can fix that too?

[themaniacboy]

Originally Posted by DeeperThought

Yes, just strafe and continue to face the ledge that you are grabbing. It works fine. You are the only person who has ever had a problem with it.

i downloaded too many goddamn mods,i reinstalled Eduke32 and Dukeplus and now i get this in my eduke32 log file:

EDuke32 1.5.0devel (Aug 24 2008 19:34:41)
Copyright (c) 1996, 2003 3D Realms Entertainment
Copyright (c) 2008 EDuke32 team
Application parameters: -game_dir DukePlus
addsearchpath(): Added D:/Duke3d/
addsearchpath(): Added DukePlus/
OS: Windows XP (5.1.2600) Service Pack 3, v.3244
Loading opengl32.dll
Loading glu32.dll
Initializing DirectDraw...
Using config file 'duke3d.cfg'.
Scanning for GRP files...
Found 1 recognized GRP files.
addsearchpath(): Added D:/Duke3d/DukePlus/
addsearchpath(): Added DukePlus/
Using group file 'duke3d.grp' as main group file.
Using group file 'autoload/duke3d.grp/AtomicCONs.zip'.
Using group file 'autoload/duke3d.grp/duke3d_hrp.zip'.
Using group file 'autoload/duke3d.grp/eduke32_mus.zip'.
Using group file 'autoload/duke3d.grp/hrp_update.zip'.
Using group file 'autoload/duke3d.grp/maphacks.zip'.
Using group file 'autoload/duke3d.grp/xxx_pack.zip'.
Compiling: EDUKE.CON (27 bytes)
Including: dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON (597580 bytes)
Increasing script buffer size to 1331904 bytes...
Using DEF file: dukeplus.def.
Wrote duke3d.cfg
Wrote duke3d_binds.cfg
Using config file 'DukePlus/dp.cfg'.
dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON:9: error: could not find file `DEFS.CON'.
dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON:10: error: could not find file `USER.CON'.
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/USERPLUS.CON (75158 bytes)
DukePlus/dpcons/USERPLUS.CON: At top level:
DukePlus/dpcons/USERPLUS.CON:29: error: parameter `YES' is undefined.
DukePlus/dpcons/USERPLUS.CON:31: error: parameter `YES' is undefined.
Increasing script buffer size to 1397440 bytes...
DukePlus/dpcons/USERPLUS.CON:32: error: parameter `YES' is undefined.
Increasing script buffer size to 1462976 bytes...
Uninitializing DirectDraw...

im getting tired of this...

edit: oow f*ck im so blind,missing two .con files, i see the problem

i report back if there any other problems

[XTHX2]

Just completely delete that folder and reinstall everything...

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by themaniacboy

dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON:9: error: could not find file `DEFS.CON'.
dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON:10: error: could not find file `USER.CON'.


edit: oow f*ck im so blind,missing two .con files, i see the problem

1.81 8-25-08
-Reverted to the old method of having DP load the player's normal DEFS.CON and USER.CON, rather then DP's own versions of these. I realized that loading special DP copies of these was preventing people from using the HRP music and other custom content specified in their CONs. The downside to this is it means I will get false bug reports again from people trying to use non-Atomic CONs with Duke Plus.

I should have added: "...and people trying to start a game without copies of USER.CON or DEFS.CON, most likely because they have a *cough *cough modified version of duke3d.grp that doesn't contain them."

[Kenny mckormick]

SEENINE is affected by the % of Damage inflicted...

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by Kenny mckormick

SEENINE is affected by the % of Damage inflicted...

If by "is affected" you mean "isn't affected", then yes.

[Kenny mckormick]

Uh i don't understand :s

But try,set damage inflicted to 400 or something like,try the 1st level,explode the seenine and approach you a little,and BAOUM you are dead...

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by Kenny mckormick

Uh i don't understand :s

But try,set damage inflicted to 400 or something like,try the 1st level,explode the seenine and approach you a little,and BAOUM you are dead...

OH, you mean damaged inflicted by monsters! Yes, that's true. If you incresae the damage the player receives in the menu, then he will receive more damage from most anything.

[Kenny mckormick]

Originally Posted by DeeperThought

OH, you mean damaged inflicted by monsters! Yes, that's true. If you incresae the damage the player receives in the menu, then he will receive more damage from most anything.

yes but in some map,the players don't have other choice than take damage from
explosion (in mapster,one Explosion is a little little invisible SEENINE no?)So maybe desactive bonus damage on Seenine no?

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by Kenny mckormick

yes but in some map,the players don't have other choice than take damage from
explosion (in mapster,one Explosion is a little little invisible SEENINE no?)So maybe desactive bonus damage on Seenine no?

It doesn't work quite like that, but maybe I could change it.

There are various optional features in DP which can make maps more or less difficult (in some cases impossible). Since these features are optional and off by default, I don't consider it a bug.

[Kenny mckormick]

Yes of course is not really one bug...

But Damage inflicted don't affect the "water damage"...

And the Shooter documentation is incomplete no?I don't see the information for the projectile...

[Mateos]

3 page of bug reporting, let DT sleep !

When I open DP menu, monsters moves and fires, but I'm invicible with DP menu open...