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Old 05-18-2009, 05:47 PM   #41
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Re: 3DR "smaller studio now," "will continue to operate as a company"
Yeah, in the same way that Bonnie and Clyde still operate as a company.

Duke is finished in all ways that matter. No one else would take the care to make it correctly because they'd be deathly afraid of holding onto it too long. This was the last chance of a good Duke game.

It's done unless someone funds them in the next 10 minutes. It won't happen.
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:48 PM   #42
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Take that you TT alien scum

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Oh yea where is Kaiser's comment about all this ?
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:51 PM   #43
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Duke is done if he stays in 3DR's hands. They have no money and no staff, there is nothing they can do but sell.
Of course, this is just as of this moment.

Edit: the rest of that post was rubbish. Sigh.
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:51 PM   #44
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Duke is done if he stays in 3DR's hands. They have no money and no staff, there is nothing they can do but sell. The only things they can sell is the right to use Duke in other games which would mean there might be more Duke games (but hey I'm all for that) or they can sell DNF which I do not see them doing. I see them holding on to it forever and never letting it get finished and released.

Who really got boned though was 3DR's employees. Take Two was going to let them keep their jobs and finally ******* finish the game (which probably wouldn't happen at 3DR) so you know that DNF would have been in the best hands possible (but probably a little rushed...if you call 12 years rushed). But 3DR being the jealous idiots they are want Duke for themselves and don't want lots of money and would instead rather fire their employees when the economy is shitty and go broke and close down when they have no money and no other games or anything to fall back on. Whatever is left of 3DR now is going to end up in George's garage trying to make a shitty Duke game.
haha man so much truth in here...
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:55 PM   #45
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Always bet on Duke.
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:55 PM   #46
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Who really got boned though was 3DR's employees. Take Two was going to let them keep their jobs and finally ******* finish the game (which probably wouldn't happen at 3DR) so you know that DNF would have been in the best hands possible (but probably a little rushed...if you call 12 years rushed). But 3DR being the jealous idiots they are want Duke for themselves and don't want lots of money and would instead rather fire their employees when the economy is shitty and go broke and close down when they have no money and no other games or anything to fall back on. Whatever is left of 3DR now is going to end up in George's garage trying to make a shitty Duke game.
If you read the statement, the last minute deal Take Two offered included no guarantees whatsoever. If you dislike 3DR so much, then leave this forum. This negativity that is spreading on this board is sad. You accomplish nothing with it.
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:56 PM   #47
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P.S. enough shit talk in here, 'if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.' Chill negatrons.
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:56 PM   #48
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^+1.

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It's done unless someone funds them in the next 10 minutes
I hope I'm not feeding a troll...but I need to point out that your "10 minutes" is bull, as is any time period that is not defined by 3DR themselves. Sigh.


GO 3DR!!!!!!! If this is indeed true (and I'm certainly inclined to believe GB in this regards) it is excellent news for the future of this game.
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:58 PM   #49
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and yet again we have MORE bullshit and another reason DNF will never be released, just let the ******* game go to some competent game developers you idiots
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:04 PM   #50
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Easy for you to say.



STFU imo.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:05 PM   #51
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I think this is good news, the company still exist but is in a 'idle' mode for now.
But wouldn't they need Joe back then, for the 3DR site and forum?

And 'yes', people need to stop WHINING</Schwarzenegger>
3DR created DNF, and they will finish it for themselves. Even if it takes more time.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:08 PM   #52
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haha by the time that happens the tech will be too old and they would have to re start again...
What do you mean with that? I just played Half-Life 2 the other day and I still like it.

And... 1st post.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:11 PM   #53
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I don't get it, If 3DRealms only spent 20mill on DNF, they should have plenty of money left over, where did that 40mill for Max Payne go? and all of their other money?
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:11 PM   #54
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T2: Give it to me damn it.
3DR: Come Get Some.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:14 PM   #55
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I cant fathom you fanboys and your sickening blindness. I WANT THE GAME JUST AS MUCH AS THE REST OF YOU, but wake up cant you see whats happening....

Stupid 3DR JUST SELL THE ******* FRANCHISE SO a developer can actually finish the game, don't you people understand that all this means is that this is more excuses to NOT release the game. These ******* owners are going to take DNF to the grave and leave all of us supporters in the dust. For those of you who think "but the game is almost done they might release it still" stop fooling yourselves by the time all this dusts settles from legal mumbo jumbo the engine/gameplay for DNF will once again be "obsolete" hence leaving us where have been these many number of years STILL ******* WAITING.

Stop blaming take two for the game getting put on hold they did the right thing, AS IF ANY COMPANY IN THERE RIGHT MIND would give money to 3DR when they don't have the competence to release a game in under a decade, hence the only other option is to buy them out and actually deliver the product (created with the original development team) that WE have all been waiting for for so long.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:15 PM   #56
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a once awesome pc hero dies now in hands of his own creators, could he come back so strong once he was?
i doubt it.................
What usually happens to popular 90's icon that try to return to a new generation of people? They die embarreslying and then forgotten back to the realm of obscurity.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:16 PM   #57
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still hoping for marketing stunt... after E3 I will change my vision if nothing is clear...
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:17 PM   #58
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still hoping for marketing stunt... after E3 I will change my vision if nothing is clear...
Remember, scott said E3 is 'irrelevant' now. Don't expect anything duke related at E3 this year.....maybe next year.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:19 PM   #59
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Stop blaming take two for the game getting put on hold they did the right thing, AS IF ANY COMPANY IN THERE RIGHT MIND would give money to 3DR when they don't have the competence to release a game in under a decade, hence the only other option is to buy them out and actually deliver the product (created with the original development team) that WE have all been waiting for for so long.
Well said.

Everyone is hating on Take Two. They are not the ones in the wrong here.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:21 PM   #60
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Well said.

Everyone is hating on Take Two. They are not the ones in the wrong here.
finally someone else with there eyes open to what the **** 3DR is doing
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:24 PM   #61
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What usually happens to popular 90's icon that try to return to a new generation of people? They die embarreslying and then forgotten back to the realm of obscurity.
Well everybody knows "The Simpsons".
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:25 PM   #62
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finally someone else with there eyes open to what the **** 3DR is doing
And like you can see through your spite?
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:27 PM   #63
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And like you can see through your spite?
I'm trying to point out everyone's denial to whats really happening with DNF. ITS NEVER GOING TO COME OUT IF THE GAME STAYS IN 3DR'S HANDS.
3drealms previous track record over all these years pretty much tells us that.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:30 PM   #64
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Yes, the past does tell us that.

But what does the future tell?

Stay Tuned
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:32 PM   #65
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if take two had the rights to the game and the original development team we would see DNF, we will never see it through 3dr
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:35 PM   #66
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I see. Thank you.

Who will we see it from then?
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:36 PM   #67
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no one, it will die with 3dr
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:37 PM   #68
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Not necessarily - this is just 3DR's version of what took place.
Show me any "offical" statement those Take TWO ****s put out

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haha man so much truth in here...
They will have money........
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:37 PM   #69
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Show me any "offical" statement those ****s put out
This one.

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no one, it will die with 3dr
Damn, well I guess we are all wasting time.

Hey guys! The time traveler is here and he says DNF is never coming out!
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:38 PM   #70
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lol they showed a reel of the work they did on the game LOL

that was a lot of game designers for a few weeks of work.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:44 PM   #71
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Yep. Since 3DR are not allowed to modify the code while the lawsuit is ongoing, if this lawsuit takes any considerable amount of time the finish up, by the time DNF gets worked on again it will be dated, and they may even have to start over again...
Didja read the press release?

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Less than a week after the DNF team was released, Take-Two filed its lawsuit in New York, seeking immediate temporary injunctive relief. The court denied Take-Two's request for a temporary restraining order.
They can continue to work on the game. Granted, without a dev team, that may prove... difficult

The release also said that 3DR retains "certain rights" to sell DNF directly to the public. I wonder....
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:44 PM   #72
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12 years.... you claim to be loyal... 12 f u c k i n' years..... and you aren't going to stand for them when it counts? YOU are the kind of people that do not succeed in life because everyone tells you that you cannot. I am normally mature, but it sickens me to see people of your kind.

Damn you evolve!

Ok lemming you just keep on letting 3dr walk you right into the fire
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:46 PM   #73
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it is a 12 year old fire, you think a simple rain is going to put it out?

Dude, all of you on HERE have wanted Duke Nukem... and all of you on here TODAY want Duke Nukem.... but the fact remains... people aren't living unless they are bitching..... You guys... for the first time in your lives....... you need to have faith....

This Game Will Release.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:47 PM   #74
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I don't get it, If 3DRealms only spent 20mill on DNF, they should have plenty of money left over, where did that 40mill for Max Payne go? and all of their other money?
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Max Payne series and Prey are all i can think of.

I don't know the specifics, but i thought they were both basically "contracted" out by a 3rd party developer. I am guessing 3dr funded them directly? If so, then that is where a lot of money could have gone.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:49 PM   #75
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Those who feel that 3DR should sell their Duke IP just don't understand the value of the IP. If 3DR is going to sell the IP, it would be at the right price. It'll be stupid to sell such a valuable IP, since a lot of money could be made from selling Duke and his likeness in movies, games, and other merchandise.

Basically, those who are for Take Two getting the Duke IP are not thinking about the whole picture.

If you were the owner of 3D Realms, would you sell your most valuable asset for peanuts?

Put it another way - would you sell the golden goose?
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:50 PM   #76
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Good Question:
Max Payne series and Prey are all i can think of.

I don't know the specifics, but i thought they were both basically "contracted" out by a 3rd party developer. I am guessing 3dr funded them directly? If so, then that is where a lot of money could have gone.

This ... THIS.. is where they ****** up getting expensive vehicles and the such.... but..... I know it is not all gone... The fact they are still planning to release the game and have went public with it SERIOUSLY suggests that they aren't out of money..... ......... Come on guys, put two and two together faster .... as i said before... this game.. for a fact... will be released. ( and i am just WAITING for the person to ask "what fact")
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:54 PM   #77
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Good Question:
Max Payne series and Prey are all i can think of.

I don't know the specifics, but i thought they were both basically "contracted" out by a 3rd party developer. I am guessing 3dr funded them directly? If so, then that is where a lot of money could have gone.
I'm sure they made a lot of money still. We don't know what the contracts are like, but I'm sure 3D Realms made money either by getting a % of profit, or by selling the IP (as they did with Max Payne... at least I think they sold it).

3DR keeps partnering up with different companies, I can't keep up. For example, is 3DR getting paid for each copy of Wolf3D sold? Would they get money if I buy Wolf3D for my iPod Touch? It's sold here on 3DR, and Joe mentioned it on the front page for the iPhone... so it makes me wonder if they get a cut.

Same for Max Payne and Prey - is 3DR being compensated for those IPs? Who own them now?

I honestly want to know so I know what to buy to help out 3DR.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:56 PM   #78
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Due to lack of funding, however, we are saddened to confirm that we let the Duke Nukem Forever (DNF) development team go on May 6th, while we regroup as a company.
OMFG how bind are you people?
Can't any of you see the play on words in that text JESUS CHRIST!!!
They said they have let go the DNF team WHILE they regroup as a company!
This means that after they are done regrouping they are going to hire them back!

And then here is the another hint that DNF will be finished with the help of new developers and 3drealms co-operation!
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we will continue to operate as a company and continue to license and co-create games based upon the Duke Nukem franchise.
They also said they have invested 20 MILLION$ into that game!
Do you seriously think that they are going to kill all those money?
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:57 PM   #79
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I honestly want to know so I know what to buy to help out 3DR.
Give them a few million dollars and that should help out.

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This means that after they are done regrouping they are going to hire them back!

And then here is the final confirmation that DNF will be finished under with the help of new developers!

I doubt they'd get them all back, if any. Most would probably be at new jobs.

Also, the Duke Nukem Trilogy is being licensed under a different developer. Apogee Software, LLC
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Old 05-18-2009, 07:00 PM   #80
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still hoping for marketing stunt... after E3 I will change my vision if nothing is clear...
Well GB did say that there would be a massive media release about a year before the game was released... and we just saw a bunch of new screenshots and videos...

But anyway, my frail heart can't handle this rollercoaster ride we are being put through. Nor can my short attention span... hey, look, a quarter!
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