Wolf4SDL

The Cool One · 07-30-2008, 10:58 PM

well I stumbled across this today, it's an SDL port of Wolfenstein 3D with barely any bugs. It is also extremely faithful to the original, I'm compiling it for systems as we speak so far I have a Windows Shareware binary and A linux Shareware installer.

Shareware Windows Binary
Shareware Linux Installer
Registered Windows Binary
Registered Windows Installer

leilei · 07-31-2008, 09:11 PM

This is the first Wolf3D port that doesn't suck. Finally!!!

The Cool One · 07-31-2008, 10:54 PM

Also, I just had this thing running on a celeron 366MHz with 64MB of RAM with no troubles, it's pretty lean.

Phayzon · 08-01-2008, 09:49 PM

Nice! Ill have to check that out later.

Any plans for a Windows Mobile (PocketPC) version?

DOSGuy · 08-02-2008, 02:24 PM

Very smooth scrolling. It's exactly like playing in DOS, if not a bit smoother.

XTHX2 · 08-02-2008, 03:15 PM

Can it load mods ? It would be very useful.

Rellik66 · 08-02-2008, 09:44 PM

hmm, lags out on me whenever the screen flashes on pain and pickups. :/

The Cool One · 08-02-2008, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rellik66

hmm, lags out on me whenever the screen flashes on pain and pickups. :/

yeah that seems to happen to me on windows exclusively

try it with the visual studio compiler Source Code

Bad Sector · 08-10-2008, 01:32 AM

I assume Windows Vista? This seems to be a problem with all programs that use a 8bit palletized modes. Its possible however to force a 32bit mode in SDL initialization and use a shadow surface for drawing the actual data and then let SDL to convert the 8bit surface to 32bit.

This can be an optional switch for these cases.

supergoofy · 08-10-2008, 01:47 AM

It has compiled binary files of Wolf4SDL v1.5 (2008-05-25, Revision 215):
http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uv...downloads.html

Rider · 08-10-2008, 05:40 AM

Wow this is very good! I love it

leilei · 08-10-2008, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Sector

I assume Windows Vista? This seems to be a problem with all programs that use a 8bit palletized modes. Its possible however to force a 32bit mode in SDL initialization and use a shadow surface for drawing the actual data and then let SDL to convert the 8bit surface to 32bit.

This can be an optional switch for these cases.

Happens on Geforces in SDL in 8bit color. This isn't the only thing that does this (DOSBox and even Odamex does this)

Ripper · 08-11-2008, 03:28 PM

Yay! Users and positive comments

@XTHX2: There is no modding support like in Quake where you can enable a mod from inside the game. For such games this way is needed, because the main engine is or was not available in source code. But for Wolf3D we just have everything, so we change the code as we like to create our mods.
The first published mod based on Wolf4SDL was a remake of "Mac-enstein Second Encounter". The Wolf3D community is already working on several more mods using Wolf4SDL. If you're interested, you can find more information at The Wolfenstein 3D Dome and DieHard Wolfers Forums.

@leilei: There is at least one user running WinXP and an ATI Rage 128 PRO Ultra GL getting messed up colors, so it is neither a Vista-only nor a GeForce-only problem. I have both errors, wrong colors and/or very slow fading, on an irregular basis with Vista and a GeForce.
One user told me, that it's always messed up, when he boots his computer, starts more than one Firefox window and then starts Wolf4SDL. But it never happens, if he starts Wolf4SDL directly after booting...
I posted a (probably rather irritating) bug report on libSDL including screen photos and videos for a test case I projected out from the Wolf4SDL code, but no one ever reacted on it (see Bug 592 - Exclusive 8-bit palette in fullscreen with directx sometimes messed up). In that test case SDL even changes the content of the surface sometimes during an SDL_Wait or SDL_SetPalette!
Something is really broken with SDL...

@Bad Sector: Your optional workaround sounds like a good idea. This would also still allow to play it on old Win98 computers (there are 2-3 users doing this), where the palette works without any problems.
But I would really like to know, what's causing these not always reproducible errors.

leilei · 08-12-2008, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripper

@leilei: There is at least one user running WinXP and an ATI Rage 128 PRO Ultra GL getting messed up colors, so it is neither a Vista-only nor a GeForce-only problem. I have both errors, wrong colors and/or very slow fading, on an irregular basis with Vista and a GeForce.

ATI Radeons don't get the slowdown with palette changes, though sometimes the colors can look very unprecise (particularily with dark blue gradients). I think this was fixed in a driver though, not sure (happens in DOSbox and Odamex as well, both SDL apps)

Rider · 08-12-2008, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Happens on Geforces in SDL in 8bit color.

FYI, I'm using a GeForce 8800 GT on Windows XP and I've got no such issues.

DOSGuy · 08-13-2008, 09:36 AM

Ditto, but replace 8800 with 8500.

avatar_58 · 08-13-2008, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leilei

Happens on Geforces in SDL in 8bit color. This isn't the only thing that does this (DOSBox and even Odamex does this)

Sorry? I have a Geforce 8800 GTX and I've no such problem. Never happened on my older Geforce cards either.

Ripper · 08-13-2008, 10:38 AM

It have a GeForce 8600 GT, where it happens on Vista 64. These problems only appear in fullscreen mode, as far as I know.
Sometimes, when SDL chooses to use a 640x480 mode for a requested 640x400 mode and the bug appears, the lower 40 pixel of the game screen are handled different than the rest.

avatar_58 · 08-13-2008, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripper

It have a GeForce 8600 GT, where it happens on Vista 64. These problems only appear in fullscreen mode, as far as I know.
Sometimes, when SDL chooses to use a 640x480 mode for a requested 640x400 mode and the bug appears, the lower 40 pixel of the game screen are handled different than the rest.

Have you tried disabling 'desktop composition' on the shortcut?

Ripper · 08-13-2008, 11:07 AM

No, but of course now I cannot reproduce the bug... Perhaps tomorrow again... (I really hate irregularly reproducible bugs... that's why I took those videos in my SDL bug report

)

oak man · 08-13-2008, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Cool One

well I stumbled across this today, it's an SDL port of Wolfenstein 3D with barely any bugs. It is also extremely faithful to the original, I'm compiling it for systems as we speak so far I have a Windows Shareware binary and A linux Shareware installer.

Shareware Windows Binary
Shareware Linux Installer
Registered Windows Binary
Registered Windows Installer

Wow looks like you really are The Cool One! Great find yet again!

Ripper · 08-31-2008, 06:53 PM

Wolf4SDL v1.6 is out: http://www.chaos-software.de.vu

As Bad Sector suggested, I now use a screen color depth which is called "the best" by libSDL and let SDL copy the rendered screens from 8-bit to the actual color depth. To get the old behaviour "--bits 8" can be used.
So the color/fading problem is solved (at least for me).

The demos now also fully work. Previously, there were several problems induced by bugfixes letting BJ run into walls because of different timing and random number indices.

Enjoy

8IronBob · 09-29-2008, 06:33 PM

I'm wondering if this is also compatible with Spear of Destiny, too. I'd better find that CD-ROM with SOD, it's been too long since I've played that game.
I already have Wolf 3D as part of the RtCW Platinum Edition, just wish they've included SOD on there... Ah well.

Ripper · 09-29-2008, 06:49 PM

Yes, it is, but you have to take the "SOD Win32 binary for Full version" from the downloads page.

filipetolhuizen · 10-10-2008, 05:26 PM

I just love this port, the only thing is the author set the default VBR value to 1 instead of the original 0 which doesn't make gameplay smooth. I always have to set it manually to have a smooth gameplay. Otherwise it's great.

07-30-2008, 10:58 PM	#1
The Cool One	Wolf4SDL well I stumbled across this today, it's an SDL port of Wolfenstein 3D with barely any bugs. It is also extremely faithful to the original, I'm compiling it for systems as we speak so far I have a Windows Shareware binary and A linux Shareware installer. Shareware Windows Binary Shareware Linux Installer Registered Windows Binary Registered Windows Installer __________________ It's time to kick ass and compile KDE and I'm all out of swap Last edited by The Cool One; 07-31-2008 at 08:39 PM.

07-31-2008, 09:11 PM	#2
leilei	Re: Wolf4SDL This is the first Wolf3D port that doesn't suck. Finally!!! __________________ You can forget about the Dave3D and Ling projects. R.I.P. 2006-2008

07-31-2008, 10:54 PM	#3
The Cool One	Re: Wolf4SDL Also, I just had this thing running on a celeron 366MHz with 64MB of RAM with no troubles, it's pretty lean. __________________ It's time to kick ass and compile KDE and I'm all out of swap

08-01-2008, 09:49 PM	#4
Phayzon	Re: Wolf4SDL Nice! Ill have to check that out later. Any plans for a Windows Mobile (PocketPC) version? __________________ I made the first post on the VB! "So I guess the news here is that not only is Australia the last to get anything new in regard to videogames, they're also the first to get them taken away." - LeadBullet "We're part-time internet superheros." - Hudson

08-02-2008, 02:24 PM	#5
DOSGuy	Re: Wolf4SDL Very smooth scrolling. It's exactly like playing in DOS, if not a bit smoother. __________________ "Today entirely the maniac there is no excuse with the article." Get free DOS games at www.classicdosgames.com

08-02-2008, 03:15 PM	#6
XTHX2	Re: Wolf4SDL Can it load mods ? It would be very useful. __________________ ---HELLDUKE TC--- NEW STABLE MIRROR SECONDARY MIRROR ---GAMEPLAY VIDEO--- Gameplay Footage of my Mod.

08-02-2008, 09:44 PM	#7
Rellik66	Re: Wolf4SDL hmm, lags out on me whenever the screen flashes on pain and pickups. :/

08-10-2008, 01:32 AM	#9
Bad Sector	Re: Wolf4SDL I assume Windows Vista? This seems to be a problem with all programs that use a 8bit palletized modes. Its possible however to force a 32bit mode in SDL initialization and use a shadow surface for drawing the actual data and then let SDL to convert the 8bit surface to 32bit. This can be an optional switch for these cases.

08-10-2008, 01:47 AM	#10
supergoofy	Re: Wolf4SDL It has compiled binary files of Wolf4SDL v1.5 (2008-05-25, Revision 215): http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uv...downloads.html

08-10-2008, 05:40 AM	#11
Rider	Re: Wolf4SDL Wow this is very good! I love it __________________ Duke4.net - Duke's OTHER home. HeadbangersFM - The station that keeps your head banging! ------------- She's pretty, not "damn-she's-making-my-noodle-dance-samba"-pretty, but still very pretty... - Micki!

08-11-2008, 03:28 PM	#13
Ripper	Re: Wolf4SDL Yay! Users and positive comments @XTHX2: There is no modding support like in Quake where you can enable a mod from inside the game. For such games this way is needed, because the main engine is or was not available in source code. But for Wolf3D we just have everything, so we change the code as we like to create our mods. The first published mod based on Wolf4SDL was a remake of "Mac-enstein Second Encounter". The Wolf3D community is already working on several more mods using Wolf4SDL. If you're interested, you can find more information at The Wolfenstein 3D Dome and DieHard Wolfers Forums. @leilei: There is at least one user running WinXP and an ATI Rage 128 PRO Ultra GL getting messed up colors, so it is neither a Vista-only nor a GeForce-only problem. I have both errors, wrong colors and/or very slow fading, on an irregular basis with Vista and a GeForce. One user told me, that it's always messed up, when he boots his computer, starts more than one Firefox window and then starts Wolf4SDL. But it never happens, if he starts Wolf4SDL directly after booting... I posted a (probably rather irritating) bug report on libSDL including screen photos and videos for a test case I projected out from the Wolf4SDL code, but no one ever reacted on it (see Bug 592 - Exclusive 8-bit palette in fullscreen with directx sometimes messed up). In that test case SDL even changes the content of the surface sometimes during an SDL_Wait or SDL_SetPalette! Something is really broken with SDL... @Bad Sector: Your optional workaround sounds like a good idea. This would also still allow to play it on old Win98 computers (there are 2-3 users doing this), where the palette works without any problems. But I would really like to know, what's causing these not always reproducible errors.

08-13-2008, 09:36 AM	#16
DOSGuy	Re: Wolf4SDL Ditto, but replace 8800 with 8500. __________________ "Today entirely the maniac there is no excuse with the article." Get free DOS games at www.classicdosgames.com

08-13-2008, 10:38 AM	#18
Ripper	Re: Wolf4SDL It have a GeForce 8600 GT, where it happens on Vista 64. These problems only appear in fullscreen mode, as far as I know. Sometimes, when SDL chooses to use a 640x480 mode for a requested 640x400 mode and the bug appears, the lower 40 pixel of the game screen are handled different than the rest. __________________ Life is an awful game, but the graphics resolution rocks ;D

08-13-2008, 11:07 AM	#20
Ripper	Re: Wolf4SDL No, but of course now I cannot reproduce the bug... Perhaps tomorrow again... (I really hate irregularly reproducible bugs... that's why I took those videos in my SDL bug report ) __________________ Life is an awful game, but the graphics resolution rocks ;D

08-31-2008, 06:53 PM	#22
Ripper	Wolf4SDL v1.6 released Wolf4SDL v1.6 is out: http://www.chaos-software.de.vu As Bad Sector suggested, I now use a screen color depth which is called "the best" by libSDL and let SDL copy the rendered screens from 8-bit to the actual color depth. To get the old behaviour "--bits 8" can be used. So the color/fading problem is solved (at least for me). The demos now also fully work. Previously, there were several problems induced by bugfixes letting BJ run into walls because of different timing and random number indices. Enjoy __________________ Life is an awful game, but the graphics resolution rocks ;D

09-29-2008, 06:33 PM	#23
8IronBob	Re: Wolf4SDL I'm wondering if this is also compatible with Spear of Destiny, too. I'd better find that CD-ROM with SOD, it's been too long since I've played that game. I already have Wolf 3D as part of the RtCW Platinum Edition, just wish they've included SOD on there... Ah well. __________________ PC Specs (a.k.a. "Galacticus Prime"): http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7Vk7FT

09-29-2008, 06:49 PM	#24
Ripper	Re: Wolf4SDL Yes, it is, but you have to take the "SOD Win32 binary for Full version" from the downloads page. __________________ Life is an awful game, but the graphics resolution rocks ;D

10-10-2008, 05:26 PM	#25
filipetolhuizen	Re: Wolf4SDL I just love this port, the only thing is the author set the default VBR value to 1 instead of the original 0 which doesn't make gameplay smooth. I always have to set it manually to have a smooth gameplay. Otherwise it's great.