Max Payne 3: What I want to see

Just one thing really, though it has many implications:
The ability to turn off/on or shoot out lights, use shadows, and yes, walk softly!

This has many implications for AI, level design, etc., but I think it would add much-needed variation to the basic Max Payne gameplay.

Yes, these are Splinter Cell features, but I think there is plenty of room for a hybrid product, without being perceived as a rip-off or detracting from the standard MP gameplay.

rms

[Mongorian]

Since the "standard mp gameplay" consists of running into every room and blowing the sh!t out of everything, I will just hope Remedy ignores this post.

[Noodlez]

i agree rms
some nice peaking round the corner of the wall shooting would be nice!

[Mongorian]

Aren't there plenty of stealth action games already? Besides, max is not the kind of guy who "peeks around corners".

[Mayur]

umm....no, I hope they don't turn MP into an RPG game or something.......please don't do it Rem!

PLEASE!!!!!!





















[and this tme I am dead sure they will listen to me ]

-M

[Yohance Bailey]

I dont really like the idea of walking softly so enemies wont hear you and stealth....but i also dont like enemies knowing im there without seeing or hearing me like they currently do.

The lights thing would be cool....but i dont want it to detract from the gameplay...it can just be there for as a graphical nicity.

The general idea of max payne is to run and gun while doing cool moves...too much stealth will make it not max payne.

[Yatta]

Better Bullet Time (3.0?). I'd like to see people's voices slow down as well as their actions. It would also be nice to see more outdoor levels like in the original Max Payne where the intro would show you the skyscrapers after zooming out from the water. I thought that was really cool.

[FullMetalJacket]

That was water?! All this time I thought it was snow on the ground!

[Yatta]

That was water?! All this time I thought it was snow on the ground!

Looked like water to me. My best guess would be that your graphics card wasn't displaying it correctly. Or I just made a mistake because I haven't played MP1 for over half a year.

[FullMetalJacket]

My best guess would be that your graphics card wasn't displaying it correctly. Or I just made a mistake because I haven't played MP1 for over half a year.

Um, I've always had top-notch graphics cards. Played MP1 on a Geforce3, Geforce4, and now a GeForceFX 5900 Ultra. Played MP1 almost daily since the day it came out in 2001. Never looked like water to me.

[RedSplat]

Never looked like water to me.

That's because it wasn't water it was ice...atleast that's what i thought it was...a frozen river.

[Yatta]

That's because it wasn't water it was ice...atleast that's what i thought it was...a frozen river.

Well, I was still closer. He thought it was snow.

[MrUniq]

I'd like to see a more open ended style.....kind of like grand theft auto...big expansive city. I know that MIGHT be difficult given the huge mapping task and game engine constraints.

And random crimes may occur that you can try to stop.

And for bullettime make it more like the original. But 2.0 IS handy when u are surrounded.

Maybe use two different guns in each hand(kinda silly)
and disarm enemies by shooting their hands. Or cripple them(never know when u may need to interrogate).

Uhm....I'd like to see more blur/camera effects...like when one guy is left standing , Max fires of the finishing shot and the camera pans to the bullet or the enemy getting hit...I know the game already does that, but I like more .

Uhm..maybe assign different gun stunts to keys that Max can perform like more stylish shootdodges, etc.

More playable characters.

Actually some of these could possibly be done in a mod...we'll see.

[Spazer]

sam lake back as max

[Ronin]

I'd like to see a more open ended style.....kind of like grand theft auto...big expansive city. I know that MIGHT be difficult given the huge mapping task and game engine constraints.

And random crimes may occur that you can try to stop.

And for bullettime make it more like the original. But 2.0 IS handy when u are surrounded.

Maybe use two different guns in each hand(kinda silly)
and disarm enemies by shooting their hands. Or cripple them(never know when u may need to interrogate).

Uhm....I'd like to see more blur/camera effects...like when one guy is left standing , Max fires of the finishing shot and the camera pans to the bullet or the enemy getting hit...I know the game already does that, but I like more .

Uhm..maybe assign different gun stunts to keys that Max can perform like more stylish shootdodges, etc.

More playable characters.

Actually some of these could possibly be done in a mod...we'll see.

That sounds exactly like True Crime people should realise tho that Max Payne is a Hong-Kong bullet ballet type of game So I hope there wont be any stealth type of action

[SkavenRMD]

Since the franchise rights were sold to Take-Two, it's not even certain Remedy will make another Max Payne game.

Futhermore, at least personally I'd like to try making something different for a change.

[Ronin]

Since the franchise rights were sold to Take-Two, it's not even certain Remedy will make another Max Payne game.

Futhermore, at least personally I'd like to try making something different for a change.

an up to date version of death rally perhaps? that game rocked(it still does)

[Mountain Man]

I'd love to see Max star in a Vice City type game. A non-linear action game with Max's attitude set in "Noir York City" would rock my world.

[Yatta]

Since the franchise rights were sold to Take-Two, it's not even certain Remedy will make another Max Payne game.

Futhermore, at least personally I'd like to try making something different for a change.

Why did you sell the franchise rights to Take-Two!!? So is there atleast a 50% chance that you'll make a Max Payne 3? PLEEEEEEEASE!

[Mongorian]

Since the franchise rights were sold to Take-Two, it's not even certain Remedy will make another Max Payne game.

Futhermore, at least personally I'd like to try making something different for a change.

YOU TRAITOR!

[Yohance Bailey]

sold to take two?..wtf? ..i guess the max payne franchise is over as we know it.

[Yenz]

Futhermore, at least personally I'd like to try making something different for a change.

Buuuuu, go back and work on MP3 you slave
If you want something "new" you can just give 3dr a hand, they have "some" game over there that they need plenty people to finish

Why did you sell the franchise rights to Take-Two

3dr also owned the franshice with Remedy. Not just Remedy that owned it, I think 3dr also owned it (and maybe 3dr needed the money to finish DNF )

Also there will be a new Max Payne game to 99% (there's too much money to be made on the franshice). Maybe not developed by remedy.
Which might be good.

[Bruce Hamilton]

sold to take two?..wtf? ..i guess the max payne franchise is over as we know it.

Not necessarily... The franchise rights were sold months ago, obviously TT had no problems allowing Remedy to continue their work... Perhaps they'd allow Max3 to progress.

[Yatta]

Maybe not developed by remedy.
Which might be good.

Yeah right, "which might be good"? Are you kidding me? What if EA ends up working on it?! WHAT IF EA OMG now I'm going to have nightmares.

[FullMetalJacket]

Changing developers isn't that huge of a deal, Yatta.

Elite Force 2 was developed by Ritual and was on par with the first game, which was developed by Raven.

Jedi Knight was one of the best frickin' games ever and developed by LucasArts; Jedi Knight 2 was nearly as good, and developed by Raven.

[Nessus]

Maybe Midway will get it an Romero and Hall will develop the sequeal. Max can get help saving the world from his adopted 8 yr old son.

[Gunrunner]

Changing developers isn't that huge of a deal

Yeah , but if the developer is EA then there would be Max payne 3 ,and week after that they make a expansion pack and after that ANOTHER expansion pack and then there would be Max payne 4 etc. And only new thing that they would include is one new weapon in each of the expansion packs. EA SUCKS!

[Ninja]

Changing developers isn't that huge of a deal, Yatta.

Tell THAT to people who want Condition Zero

[MrUniq]

take two = rockstar games. After gta 3 i believe they'd deliver the goods.

[Mongorian]

Changing developers isn't that huge of a deal, Yatta.

Elite Force 2 was developed by Ritual and was on par with the first game, which was developed by Raven.

Jedi Knight was one of the best frickin' games ever and developed by LucasArts; Jedi Knight 2 was nearly as good, and developed by Raven.

You are aware that Sam Lake does not work at another company though, are you not? If it ain't written by Sam Lake it is not max payne, imo.

[Yatta]

You are aware that Sam Lake does not work at another company though, are you not? If it ain't written by Sam Lake it is not max payne, imo.

Agreed. I want Max to have the same voice. And I want Bullet Time because I know Bullet Time is a trademark of Remedy unless they sold that too.

[eggyolk]

I want Max to cast magic and fight with a staff and his new sidekick, Pongo.

[Yatta]

I want Max to cast magic and fight with a staff and his new sidekick, Pongo.

Harry Potter in Everquest? Ain't gonna happen, poo clipper.

[SkavenRMD]

And I want Bullet Time because I know Bullet Time is a trademark of Remedy unless they sold that too.

Sold. Bullet Time™ is a part of the franchise.

The technology (ie the game engine) is as well. Which could mean that the next Max Payne game will be created with the same (but improved) engine.

When you wish for new features in games, don't forget: A freature alone isn't enough. If you just put the feature there, it makes little difference, unless you build the whole gameplay around it to support it and make good use of it. Just to say that a good, valuable feature addition can mean a lot more work than it seems.

[Yatta]

The technology (ie the game engine) is as well. Which could mean that the next Max Payne game will be created with the same (but improved) engine.

That's very good to know. I love the Max FX engine. I swear, the Max Payne games are among the very few series of games that haven't even had a single slow down on my PC. And you guys didn't need to patch the original Max Payne too much, because it was already near perfect the way it was.

What are the chances of seeing a third MP game made by Remedy? I hate the idea of changing developers, just like I abhor the idea of change in the first place. What would you think if I were to tell you John Carmack weren't going to do the major coding for DooM III?!!!!

[SkavenRMD]

What are the chances of seeing a third MP game made by Remedy?

Honestly: If I could have answered this question at this point, I would have. Only time will tell.

[PimpinMrT]

i thought remedy owned take 2 though.

also remedy doesn't see a need to finish the trilogy? i mean you would really leave your fans hanging like that.

just curious actually.

[DuckofDoom]

If there is a chance that a third game will not be then why did Remedy put "Max Paynes journey throgh the night will continue." in the credits.

[LeadBullet]

I think its a little odd they sold the rights, but said in the credits that there would be a Max Payne 3. That pretty much gives the entire series up to be raped by shitty sequels. Max Payne is a symbol for Remedy the way Duke is for 3DR. It would be kind of awful if DNF came out and then they sold Duke to Take Two. Theres already enough lame cash in titles with Duke as it is.

BTW is Rockstar a developer or a publisher label under Take Two?

[biXen]

I can't believe people miss facts like the franchise rights were sold, guess they don't read newssites, feels like I mention it every second

I'm pretty damn sure Remedy won't make MP3, they have the money now to use 4 years and make something they feel will blast us away. As much as I'd like Max Payne to continue with skilled developers like Remedy I can see how it would be good for them to go on another track. But for the love of God let it be action. Love hurts you know And I'm pretty sure Rockstar can dig up some dev. team that will do the job (almost) just as well as Remedy did. But don't let me get you down, there's still SOME chance they'll do it. Maybe if Rockstar pays $30,000,000 heheh... CASH!