The Duke and I

Joe Siegler · 03-29-2006, 01:52 PM

In addition to their Prey cover story, Computer Games Magazine (in their May 2006 issue) had a small piece on Duke Nukem Forever, which they titled "The Duke and I". Here's some small quotes from George Broussard from this piece:

3D Realms' trademark sense of humor is still intact. "Duke is a man's man. He drinks He smokes. He enjoys women. Every other game that comes out is World War II or dead serious. Duke is about being the ultimate alien ass kicker".
"We've been tech complete for a year. The last year has been making the game, putting the pieces together."

There are no screenshots with the article, but there is some more Duke goodness there for you to check out. Don't want to give away all the good bits here in this story (there's a cool bit where Tom Chick from CGM was asked for his email address).

Oh, and as usual... "When it's done".

Micki! · 03-29-2006, 01:56 PM

Heh, Cool...

Kalki · 03-29-2006, 02:11 PM

I saw the mag cover before I posted. It must have loaded late for you...

Micki! · 03-29-2006, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalki

I saw the mag cover before I posted. It must have loaded late for you...

The end of Joe's post says it was edited though, so i think he edited it in moments later after i posted the first reply...

I wonder if there's anything "new" in that magazine...

Kristian Joensen · 03-29-2006, 02:20 PM

I see that they got to see it !!!

ReadOnly · 03-29-2006, 02:26 PM

Wow, the last post on the main site about DNF was December 15, 2004.

hell-angel · 03-29-2006, 02:27 PM

I think this calls for a

KaiserSoze · 03-29-2006, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

I see that they got to see it !!!

Where do you see that they saw it?

crunchy superman · 03-29-2006, 02:48 PM

I've had this issue for a couple of days. I'll do some scanning tonight when I get home. The email thing was regarding a computer terminal in the game. Apparently, as you type on your keyboard, you see Duke's animated fingers matching your keystrokes. Hit send on the terminal in the game and you get sent email for real.

It wasn't a very long piece, and the tone of the guy's words seem to indicate (IMO) that it's far from done.

Micki! · 03-29-2006, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KaiserSoze

Where do you see that they saw it?

It's hard to recognize, but on the Cover, above the pic of Duke, it looks like it says: "We've seen it bla bla bla"...

KaiserSoze · 03-29-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by crunchy superman

I've had this issue for a couple of days. I'll do some scanning tonight when I get home. The email thing was regarding a computer terminal in the game. Apparently, as you type on your keyboard, you see Duke's animated fingers matching your keystrokes. Hit send on the terminal in the game and you get sent email for real.

It wasn't a very long piece, and the tone of the guy's words seem to indicate (IMO) that it's far from done.

HOLY SHIT.

Joe Siegler · 03-29-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KaiserSoze

Where do you see that they saw it?

It's right on the cover art image.

http://www.3drealms.com/images/magazines/cgm_0506.jpg

Micki! · 03-29-2006, 02:52 PM

^^
Ahh, i knew it...

ultra tree 85! · 03-29-2006, 02:52 PM

Awesome! I'll see about buying this issue.

Kalki · 03-29-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by crunchy superman

I've had this issue for a couple of days. I'll do some scanning tonight when I get home. The email thing was regarding a computer terminal in the game. Apparently, as you type on your keyboard, you see Duke's animated fingers matching your keystrokes. Hit send on the terminal in the game and you get sent email for real.

And you decided to sit on that info for a couple of days?? I demand my PM as soon as you reach home sir! And drive safely...

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It wasn't a very long piece, and the tone of the guy's words seem to indicate (IMO) that it's far from done.

Ah well, what else is new?

Joe Siegler · 03-29-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KaiserSoze

HOLY SHIT.

Calm down Beavis. Don't forget, it has been and will remain "When it's done".

Please for the love of God don't turn this into another thing on release dates.

Kalki · 03-29-2006, 03:00 PM

I think he was HSing over the fact that Duke could send him an e-mail. Fanwise speaking, that's like the mothership come to take you home.

crunchy superman · 03-29-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalki

And you decided to sit on that info for a couple of days??

Actually, yeah.

I figured by the time I bothered to do any scans & get 'em posted somewhere, there would already be half a dozen topics on it anyway. After none appeared, I was was curious how long it was going to take somebody else with a copy to say something.

Funniest part was the guy said George kept reading everything from index cards for the whole presentation.

smfE · 03-29-2006, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Calm down Beavis. Don't forget, it has been and will remain "When it's done".

Please for the love of God don't turn this into another thing on release dates.

haha so you don't wan't us to got over hyped huh^^

hehe
well we are really..when it has something to do with DNF :P

Kalki · 03-29-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by crunchy superman

Actually, yeah.

I figured by the time I bothered to do any scans & get 'em posted somewhere, there would already be half a dozen topics on it anyway. After none appeared, I was was curious how long it was going to take somebody else with a copy to say something.

Potsie! You just shamed us all by letting Joe beat you to the punch. A new thread or some random comment hinting at new info would have sufficed y'know.

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Funniest part was the guy said George kept reading everything from index cards for the whole presentation.

Aww... now that's cute!

KaiserSoze · 03-29-2006, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Calm down Beavis. Don't forget, it has been and will remain "When it's done".

Please for the love of God don't turn this into another thing on release dates.

I was referring to the interactivity with the email Butthead.

Ras · 03-29-2006, 03:49 PM

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Funniest part was the guy said George kept reading everything from index cards for the whole presentation.

"Hello. My name is Your Name. Shut up, Beavis! Uh-huh-huh."

It's sad that such a small tidbit, about the typing, could kick so much ass, but it does.

George Broussard · 03-29-2006, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crunchy superman

Funniest part was the guy said George kept reading everything from index cards for the whole presentation.

I was just referencing a level list of what we wanted to show him. It's not like it was a speech or anything

Several things like that, in that piece sound different than what reality was.

8IronBob · 03-29-2006, 05:01 PM

Well, guess I'll be paying a visit to my local newsstand this weekend, and see if it's worth picking up and buying. I'd be glad to read about Prey and DNF in there. Any news is phenomenal news when it comes to these Goliath titles. Thanks for the heads up!

KaiserSoze · 03-29-2006, 05:31 PM

thanks again crunchy!

definately sounds like they have a LONG way to go.

but.....it's being worked on.

Kristian Joensen · 03-29-2006, 05:37 PM

I see how you could get that from the article, but it only says what they where shown not what exists. Having test-rooms/levels is perfectly normal/to be expected.

KaiserSoze · 03-29-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

I see how you could get that from the article, but it only says what they where shown not what exists. Having test-rooms/levels is perfectly normal/to be expected.

I have no idea what fuels the motivations of 3dr and what they do. However, I personally would probably show off more of the game in it's completed state.

They could merely be covering their tracks by *not* showing alot of the features or "final" stuff due to other companies stealing ideas or screenshots/video leaking out.

I'm wondering if the mag was told/made to sign no photographing/video of DNF?

Water12356 · 03-29-2006, 06:23 PM

Awesome.

Duke Rocks · 03-29-2006, 06:23 PM

Yeah, I'll bet 3DR just wanted to keep the best stuff under wraps. They were probably just teasing CGW with the seemingly early-in-developement content.

At least that's what I WANT to think.

Kristian Joensen · 03-29-2006, 06:31 PM

The levels they showed where probably some levels they use to test things out, like perhaps interactive elements. Kinda like the "Zoo" level in Duke3D and the 1998 Quake 2 engine build of DNF.

Perhaps they also showed SOME/parts of the actuall levels in the game but then probably from some of the levels that are in the earlier stages than others.

Tim. Just Tim. · 03-29-2006, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Broussard

I was just referencing a level list of what we wanted to show him. It's not like it was a speech or anything

Several things like that, in that piece sound different than what reality was.

It seemed like a pretty stupid article to me.

For one thing, the guy spends a lot of time writing about how he didnt get the email, and then he did later due to his spam filter. Jesus dude just say it worked and be done with it, dont waste 10 sentances explaining how you suck at checking your email.

Also, he makes you come off as a frightened little child, GB, but maybe I just misread it.

And he certainly makes the game sound a loooooooong way off. "A few test rooms" ooooh. I have a feeling you guys are a little further along than he makes it seem.

Overall the article really seems to be downplaying the game. I guess the lower the expectations are, the higher the wow-factor will be. The guy didnt sound all that impressed, which strikes me kind of odd.

What else are you referring to that he made sound differently than what you actually said?

KaiserSoze · 03-29-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim. Just Tim.

It seemed like a pretty stupid article to me.
What else are you referring to that he made sound differently than what you actually said?

Hmm, maybe the whole article?

I agree with you 100%. The writer seemed...."disconnected". In his defense, it sounds like he was most likely told *not* to mention quite a bit of stuff. You notice both recent articles(PC GAMER and now Computer Games) have been shown the game but have not mentioned how the actual game *looks*? Nothing along the lines of "The engine 3dr has cooked up looks comparable to Unreal Engine 3" or something like that.

It goes without saying that us fans would like to get a look at DNF soon too.

Ras · 03-29-2006, 10:34 PM

With the ability to send e-mail in the game, I wonder what else you can do. Surf the web? Use files on your own computer such as mp3s? All of that seems doable.

Kalki · 03-30-2006, 12:33 AM

^^^ crunchy superman! I've forwarded your pm to these deekin.it, Ras & Delta. I thank you for your efforts. You rule!

Nice bit. Yes, the author seemed disconnected but I think he was asked to be. Anyone would have wanted to comment on the graphics and what they actually saw but this was meant to be a status update for the rest of the world and the media. That was probably the deal. Duke's not meant to be "shown" in any form, except via the opinions of a Shacker standing outside a movie theatre, ten inches away from ninja death.

Spooger · 03-30-2006, 12:46 AM

I found the article somewhat dissapointing myself. Maybe the guy was told not to say certain things, maybe he sucks at writing, or maybe out of what he saw the e-mail thing was the biggest deal to him -- all of these things considered, the article itself is weak. The worst part of course, is making Duke look like its been in development for only a year with a few "test rooms" done, and that's it

This, I am sure, is not the case; but it doesn't make DNF look any better to a person who knows next to nothing about its current status. I mean, someone seeing DNF these days is big, big news, and to have a ho-hum writer say "Oh, well, there's this e-mail thingy...real cool. Oh, and test rooms!" is downright scary.

Hopefully a follow-up article here or there might dispel some of these worries.

Kalki · 03-30-2006, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooger

The worst part of course, is making Duke look like its been in development for only a year with a few "test rooms" done, and that's it

This, I am sure, is not the case; but it doesn't make DNF look any better to a person who knows next to nothing about its current status. I mean, someone seeing DNF these days is big, big news, and to have a ho-hum writer say "Oh, well, there's this e-mail thingy...real cool. Oh, and test rooms!" is downright scary.

Hopefully a follow-up article here or there might dispel some of these worries.

George does say they've been tech complete for a year and have spent the time since putting the game together. He could have said that the content was being developed before that too but it's logical that the artists and designers wouldn't just be sitting on their hands.

I wouldn't expect a follow-up article unless it's in the same vein and alongside Prey. This is not the lifting of the A51 media embargo.

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Originally Posted by Ras

Yes, thank you for scanning them, crunchy, and thanks for sending them on, Kalki!

I didn't find the bit about the author not getting the e-mail to be that bad. It just read like an anecdotal way of saying that the feature is in and working.

You're welcome! And I agree, it conveys that the computer e-mail interaction and other similar whacky details are in and he/we should keep the faith... oh and check our spam filters occasionally.

hell-angel · 03-30-2006, 01:03 AM

Yup, Area 51 embargo still stands.

Although 3DR is rather talkative about it though. However, it's done when it's done and that is fine by me.

dark_angel · 03-30-2006, 01:32 AM

Nice read! Thanks Crunchy.

trackit · 03-30-2006, 01:36 AM

i wonder if thet e-mail thingy requires you to have an email acoount on you local comouter and it sends an email under that account?

personally i use webmail, and outlook web access

Cerberus_e · 03-30-2006, 01:53 AM

That mail will probably have advertisements.

03-29-2006, 01:52 PM	#1
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	The Duke and I In addition to their Prey cover story, Computer Games Magazine (in their May 2006 issue) had a small piece on Duke Nukem Forever, which they titled "The Duke and I". Here's some small quotes from George Broussard from this piece: 3D Realms' trademark sense of humor is still intact. "Duke is a man's man. He drinks He smokes. He enjoys women. Every other game that comes out is World War II or dead serious. Duke is about being the ultimate alien ass kicker". "We've been tech complete for a year. The last year has been making the game, putting the pieces together." There are no screenshots with the article, but there is some more Duke goodness there for you to check out. Don't want to give away all the good bits here in this story (there's a cool bit where Tom Chick from CGM was asked for his email address). Oh, and as usual... "When it's done". __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16 Last edited by Joe Siegler; 03-29-2006 at 02:01 PM.

03-29-2006, 01:56 PM	#2
Micki!	Re: The Duke and I Heh, Cool... __________________ A true genius does not need boundaries such as 'common sense'

03-29-2006, 02:11 PM	#3
Kalki	Re: The Duke and I I saw the mag cover before I posted. It must have loaded late for you... __________________ "Gentlemen, generations to follow will see us as the first pioneers of the internet. They will look upon our days as those of brave spirits and free ideals - where men were men, women were men and children were the FBI." Free Speech

03-29-2006, 02:20 PM	#5
Kristian Joensen	Re: The Duke and I I see that they got to see it !!! __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

03-29-2006, 02:26 PM	#6
ReadOnly	Re: The Duke and I Wow, the last post on the main site about DNF was December 15, 2004.

03-29-2006, 02:27 PM	#7
hell-angel	Re: The Duke and I I think this calls for a

03-29-2006, 02:48 PM	#9
crunchy superman	Re: The Duke and I I've had this issue for a couple of days. I'll do some scanning tonight when I get home. The email thing was regarding a computer terminal in the game. Apparently, as you type on your keyboard, you see Duke's animated fingers matching your keystrokes. Hit send on the terminal in the game and you get sent email for real. It wasn't a very long piece, and the tone of the guy's words seem to indicate (IMO) that it's far from done. __________________

03-29-2006, 02:52 PM	#13
Micki!	Re: The Duke and I ^^ Ahh, i knew it... __________________ A true genius does not need boundaries such as 'common sense'

03-29-2006, 02:52 PM	#14
ultra tree 85!	Re: The Duke and I Awesome! I'll see about buying this issue. __________________ Duke Nukem Forever will be released in 2010. The community will realize its dream of playing the greatest game of all time. :)

03-29-2006, 03:00 PM	#17
Kalki	Re: The Duke and I I think he was HSing over the fact that Duke could send him an e-mail. Fanwise speaking, that's like the mothership come to take you home. __________________ "Gentlemen, generations to follow will see us as the first pioneers of the internet. They will look upon our days as those of brave spirits and free ideals - where men were men, women were men and children were the FBI." Free Speech

03-29-2006, 05:01 PM	#24
8IronBob	Re: The Duke and I Well, guess I'll be paying a visit to my local newsstand this weekend, and see if it's worth picking up and buying. I'd be glad to read about Prey and DNF in there. Any news is phenomenal news when it comes to these Goliath titles. Thanks for the heads up! __________________ PC Specs (a.k.a. "Galacticus Prime"): http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7Vk7FT

03-29-2006, 05:31 PM	#25
KaiserSoze	Re: The Duke and I thanks again crunchy! definately sounds like they have a LONG way to go. but.....it's being worked on. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JjimMO2SdE

03-29-2006, 05:37 PM	#26
Kristian Joensen	Re: The Duke and I I see how you could get that from the article, but it only says what they where shown not what exists. Having test-rooms/levels is perfectly normal/to be expected. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

03-29-2006, 06:23 PM	#28
Water12356	Re: The Duke and I Awesome. __________________ "Psycho Mantis locking your doors, your fridge, shutting off your air conditioner, and clogging your toilet sure beats reading some crap off a memory card." - Mr. Blud "Men trade whatever they have for sex and women trade sex for whatever they want. That may be unromantic but theres truth to it." - Nessus

03-29-2006, 06:23 PM	#29
Duke Rocks	Re: The Duke and I Yeah, I'll bet 3DR just wanted to keep the best stuff under wraps. They were probably just teasing CGW with the seemingly early-in-developement content. At least that's what I WANT to think.

03-29-2006, 06:31 PM	#30
Kristian Joensen	Re: The Duke and I The levels they showed where probably some levels they use to test things out, like perhaps interactive elements. Kinda like the "Zoo" level in Duke3D and the 1998 Quake 2 engine build of DNF. Perhaps they also showed SOME/parts of the actuall levels in the game but then probably from some of the levels that are in the earlier stages than others. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

03-29-2006, 10:34 PM	#33
Ras	Re: The Duke and I With the ability to send e-mail in the game, I wonder what else you can do. Surf the web? Use files on your own computer such as mp3s? All of that seems doable.

03-30-2006, 12:33 AM	#34
Kalki	Re: The Duke and I ^^^ crunchy superman! I've forwarded your pm to these deekin.it, Ras & Delta. I thank you for your efforts. You rule! Nice bit. Yes, the author seemed disconnected but I think he was asked to be. Anyone would have wanted to comment on the graphics and what they actually saw but this was meant to be a status update for the rest of the world and the media. That was probably the deal. Duke's not meant to be "shown" in any form, except via the opinions of a Shacker standing outside a movie theatre, ten inches away from ninja death. __________________ "Gentlemen, generations to follow will see us as the first pioneers of the internet. They will look upon our days as those of brave spirits and free ideals - where men were men, women were men and children were the FBI." Free Speech

03-30-2006, 12:46 AM	#35
Spooger	Re: The Duke and I I found the article somewhat dissapointing myself. Maybe the guy was told not to say certain things, maybe he sucks at writing, or maybe out of what he saw the e-mail thing was the biggest deal to him -- all of these things considered, the article itself is weak. The worst part of course, is making Duke look like its been in development for only a year with a few "test rooms" done, and that's it This, I am sure, is not the case; but it doesn't make DNF look any better to a person who knows next to nothing about its current status. I mean, someone seeing DNF these days is big, big news, and to have a ho-hum writer say "Oh, well, there's this e-mail thingy...real cool. Oh, and test rooms!" is downright scary. Hopefully a follow-up article here or there might dispel some of these worries.

03-30-2006, 01:03 AM	#37
hell-angel	Re: The Duke and I Yup, Area 51 embargo still stands. Although 3DR is rather talkative about it though. However, it's done when it's done and that is fine by me.

03-30-2006, 01:32 AM	#38
dark_angel	Re: The Duke and I Nice read! Thanks Crunchy. __________________ Duke Nukem Forever - Crysis - Castle Wolfenstein - Bioshock - CMR : Dirt www.Duke4.net - The ultimate source for 3DRealms next-gen game - DNF " Life rewards no death for immortals " - dark_angel

03-30-2006, 01:36 AM	#39
trackit	Re: The Duke and I i wonder if thet e-mail thingy requires you to have an email acoount on you local comouter and it sends an email under that account? personally i use webmail, and outlook web access __________________ Sorry, but you're reading into it too much!

03-30-2006, 01:53 AM	#40
Cerberus_e	Re: The Duke and I That mail will probably have advertisements.