"Prey" is coming

[Phait]

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...php?story=5249

CNN Money is reporting that Prey, a first-person shooter from 3D Realms that was originally announced in late 1996, and long thought cancelled, will be one of the major new products revealed at next month's E3 Expo in Los Angeles. Prey, which originally starred "Talon Brave, a Native American, out to battle races of aliens", is allegedly being developed for 3D Realms by a third party using the Doom 3 engine, and will perhaps be published by Take-Two, although there is no official confirmation of this yet. However, the Id-approved, Raven-developed Quake IV, which also uses the Doom 3 engine, is officially confirmed to make an appearance at E3.

I'm surprised, I thought 3DR had become nothing, or bankrupt... something.

[Fat John]

What's the name of that thing when you miss the popular thing that everyone has had? Cause that's what this is.

[Warmaster129]

Remember when about 10^18 sites announced that DNF was using the Doom 3 engine?

If the news isn't from 3DR, it's probably bullshit.

[FireFly]

In this case, the news is from 3DR.

[Cerberus_e]

recently I have read something, but I'm too lazy to create a new thread for it:
Prey is in development. look: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...php?story=5249

so am I the first?

[Kev_Hectic]

There's a whole thread about this right here... actually there's been multiple threads about this news all over these forums.

[Hudson]

Kev_Hectic said:
There's a whole thread about this right here... actually there's been multiple threads about this news all over these forums.

I was going to say the same thing.

[torso boy]

this is so hilarious, the thread comes up and starts going into prey, and it being at e3. Then CNN reports prey might be shown at e3. Then the discussion goes into prey being on the Doom3 engine, and this article mentions prey being on the doom3 engine.

The take2 space at e3 is most likely the human head game, Serious Sam 2, DNF.

Don't get your hopes up on prey...but there is a slight possibility.

[avatar_58]

Whats with all this prey talk anyway?

[Enragiated]

If 3dr has been focusing their time into this and not DNF I'm not going to be very happy.

[Kev_Hectic]

avatar_58 said:
Whats with all this prey talk anyway?

Joe made this comment on the front page,

"P.S. Keep your eyes open for the unveiling of our next game very soon. "

and now everyone thinks that it's going to be Prey.

Enragiated said:
If 3dr has been focusing their time into this and not DNF I'm not going to be very happy.

I'm pretty sure it's been said more then a couple times by George that this unannounced project of theirs isn't eating into any of DNF's development time. They're working with another developer in the same capacity that they did with Remedy on the Max Payne games.

[Lengis]

Kev_Hectic said:

Joe made this comment on the front page,

"P.S. Keep your eyes open for the unveiling of our next game very soon. "

and now everyone thinks that it's going to be Prey.
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[/QUOTE]

They don't think it's Prey. They know it's Prey. It's been announced already.


>>>>>>If 3dr has been focusing their time into this and not DNF I'm not going to be very happy.

This is stupid. It's clearly stated that the game is being made by a THIRD party.

[Kev_Hectic]

Lengis said:

They don't think it's Prey. They know it's Prey. It's been announced already.

It was? And where was it announced?

[Rider]

Kev_Hectic said:

It was? And where was it announced?

maybe privately? I dunno, I still think they picked most of their info from the hype thread on the DNF section...

[BioHazard]

For anyone that's interested here's an interesting timeline for the development of Prey.

[IHerman]

Kev_Hectic said:

It was? And where was it announced?

Same here.

Why hasn't anyone posted a link/quote yet that confirms this. The 20 page thread in the DNF Forum confirms NOTHING.

Give me something directly from 3DR, and not some BS article that's no more than speculation.

The quote Joe made on the home page was made on April 1st by the way. That and the added don't make it sound very convincing.

I believe that once again speculation has resulted in a lot of uexcited people for no reason. It's interesting, but I consider it total BS unless someone posts a link to a comment made by 3DR directly.

Untill now the only "proof" there is, is the fact that 3DRealms purchased prey.com, but that doesn't say much.

[FireFly]

Nothing has been officially announced. However, Charlie's question has only one answer. It's most definitely not April Fools because of the PMs some people have been receiving, notably to one member who was banned for complaining that it wasn't DNF.

We get the hint, Charlie mentions that a pre-Duke 3D 3DR fan predicted they'd be doing this a long time ago. Lon Matero is the only well known long time 3DR fan, and guess what he predicted?

Independently, there have been several rumours that Human Head's unannounced game is Prey. Scott Miller later said that 3DR is working with an outside studio, in the same way they previously worked with Remedy, and that the game will be announced in 2004.

"H@LY S#!T!!

That's what you would be saying if we could show you the dozen characters with normal maps that we created for Human Head Studio's undisclosed project. We are incredibly proud of this work, and we are eager to share samples. Check back around E3 2005!" says Liquid Entertainment

Then as you know, last year, 3DR bought Prey.com, a name which was selling for 850,000.

And then out of the blue we get the CNN article, citing several inside sources.

[KaiserSoze]

also, why would out of the clear blue sky joe just happen to make a thread asking about lon mantero's site?

[Rider]

KaiserSoze said:

also, why would out of the clear blue sky joe just happen to make a thread asking about lon mantero's site?

more fuel for the conspiracy machine

[PlayfulPuppy]

IHerman said:
Give me something directly from 3DR, and not some BS article that's no more than speculation.

Read the last section on the page posted earlier in this thread (Where it talks about Human Heads activities).

I remember a lot of that stuff happening and not thinking that much about it at the time, but you've got to admit that there's a million-to-one chance that it's all merely coincidental.

It may not be Prey, but Human Head and 3DR definetly have something cooking.

And, 3DR are going to keep mum about this until E3, naturally, even if it's been guessed bang on the head. Which might be a bit disappointing for some, as if it is what we think it is, we've ruined the suprise.

[Sayantan]

phait said:
"Prey" is coming

/me faints on the ground in surprise.
3drealms, you bastard, why didn't you guys tell us earlier.

Edit: Just a guess but ...................... Can the so-called third party developer by any means be RMD? They are also working on something unknown
*Oh god .... I love dreaming .............. But hey , god gave me the brain to do that too*

[Kristian Joensen]

Actually it's rumored to be Human Head Studios.

Remedy is unlikely because they know are financially independent thanks to 3D Realms.

[Night Hacker]

Sayantan said:
3drealms, you bastard, why didn't you guys tell us earlier.

Gee, I wonder. With all the BS they have put up with over DNF over the years, I don't think it's any surprise that they've kept their mouth shut about this.

Smart move on their part as far as I'm concerned.

[Claws]

What did anyone know about Prey really? How much of the game was conceived? What did 3DR demonstrate other than some tech video back in the day?

Prey wasn't much more than a bucket of hype surrounding some -now obsolete- tech.

Now we have a totally different company, designing a game which is totally unrelated to that tech (D3 engine), hence totally unrelated to that original game since the tech was all that was revealed about it in the first place. BUT it will be called Prey so naturally everyone has to orgasm from digital masturbation.

[Mountain Man]

My thoughts exactly. Prey was originally conceived to showcase new technology. The game concept was rudimentary at best as much of work at the time was put into the engine.

[Kristian Joensen]

Claws said:
Now we have a totally different company,

Here you are ignoring 3D Realms's extensive role, in Prey. Wich according to the rumors even was started as a inhouse game.

Claws said:
designing a game which is totally unrelated to that tech (D3 engine),

Here you are just guessing, you are assuming that they don't reuse any of the old tech. There is nothing stopping them from doing extensive modifications to the Doom 3 engine, even rewritting many sub systems like they have done with the Unreal Engine in DNF.

Claws said: hence totally unrelated to that original game since the tech was all that was revealed about it in the first place.

This is nothing more than conjecture, I bet that they will include some of the original tech from Prey, there is no doubt about that.

Claws said:
BUT it will be called Prey so naturally everyone has to orgasm from digital masturbation.

I doubt it 3D Realms would use the name Prey if it has nothing to do with thier original visions for Prey.

[Lengis]

Night Hacker said:

Gee, I wonder. With all the BS they have put up with over DNF over the years, I don't think it's any surprise that they've kept their mouth shut about this.

Smart move on their part as far as I'm concerned.

It is? The news is out anyway, so someone talked. The fact remains that they announced a new game before they even completed DNF, so no it wasn't a smart move on their part.

[Kristian Joensen]

First Prey is not annouced yet. Second, what has giving info about Prey got to do with DNF ?

It is 3D Realms's policy to annouce games about 6 months before release, that is what they will be doing in this case.

If the game will be annouced next month it is becuase its close to be released. They can't delay their 3rd party games until DNF is done, that would be stupid.

[Claws]

Kristian Joensen said:

Here you are ignoring 3D Realms's extensive role, in Prey. Wich according to the rumors even was started as a inhouse game.

Ok I'll bite. Here you are going by rumors, which rumors? I don't know. Whatever role 3DR has, they are not the developers.

Here you are just guessing, you are assuming that they don't reuse any of the old tech. There is nothing stopping them from doing extensive modifications to the Doom 3 engine, even rewritting many sub systems like they have done with the Unreal Engine in DNF.

Indeed there is nothing stopping them from modifying the D3 engine to have *gasp* PORTAL TECHNOLOGY! WOW! It's obsolete man. Been done before. Nothing special about it.

This is nothing more than conjecture, I bet that they will include some of the original tech from Prey, there is no doubt about that.

Again, what is there to include? Portal technology? That was all they showed after all.

I doubt it 3D Realms would use the name Prey if it has nothing to do with thier original visions for Prey.

Unless Prey was never really developed past that tech demo before it got shelved.

Perhaps by splitting my post into small sections you failed to comprehend my main point: You never knew anything about Prey besides a tech demo, shortly after that tech demo it got shelved.

All this new game has in common with the old 3DR Prey is the name, simply because that was all there was to the old Prey.

[Kristian Joensen]

You don't know that.


Edited:

Oh, and the kind of portal techonology they showed off in Prey has never been seen since or before.

What matters most anyway is that the game good and hopefully great not the name or the games connection with a old project.

[Duoae]

Ok I'll bite. Here you are going by rumors, which rumors? I don't know. Whatever role 3DR has, they are not the developers.

Erm... those aren't rumours. Besides, Prey is the brainchild of 3DR, they would not lose "artistic" control of one of their projects.

[Vexed]

PORTAL TECHNOLOGY! WOW! It's obsolete man. Been done before. Nothing special about it.

When?

[Gryph]

I think Red Faction used portal technology. But nothing has used portals to the extent the Prey tech video showed.

[Ronald McDonald]

If you don't like 3DRealms' involvement in games than why do you come to these forums?

[Warmaster129]

"Portal Technology" is old. Old, old, old. Every modern engine has it. But don't mix it up with "Dynamic Portal Technology", which is what Prey has. Dynamic Portal Technology has never (IIRC) been done before, and is completely awesome.

[yossa]

And impossible to base an engine on.

According to William Scarboro it caused (among other things):

spatial discontinuities
bad collision detection through portals
sound problems
problems with rendering characters moving across portals

[Kristian Joensen]

Maybe they solved those problem ?

[Sayantan]

Or maybe they dumped this dynamic portal ideology. They might just be making Prey based on the original story, and not based on the original Prey technology.
*Satan keeps his fingers crossed*

[Kristian Joensen]

Or maybe they solved some of the problem and they aren't using it in a way to cause the others.

[Ronald McDonald]

I don't know what to expect from with on the D3 engine.

But the D3 engine looks p00 to me IMO.
I hope they changed te engine enough to be atleast brighter, higher res textured and more colourfull than D3 is