Lets talk Rise of the Triad.

[megarust]

I want you former ROTT players to try and sell this game to me. From what I read up on this site, and it's description, it sounds fantastic. However, i've never heard much conversation about it anywhere else. I do have windows xp though. This may be a problem, i presume. In any case, I want you all to try and talk to me about what's cool about this game. It sounds like it has some wicked features.

[TerminX]

I want you former ROTT players to try and sell this game to me. From what I read up on this site, and it's description, it sounds fantastic. However, i've never heard much conversation about it anywhere else. I do have windows xp though. This may be a problem, i presume. In any case, I want you all to try and talk to me about what's cool about this game. It sounds like it has some wicked features.

There's a win32 port on icculus.org. I'm sure there's some binaries for it availiable, too.

ROTT was absolutely fantastic back in the day, though. I have rather fond memories of the engine killing gibs cheat.. something about eyeballs flying about and blood and guts dripping off walls just held a place in my heart.

The game had some cool stuff, and I don't think it was really brought down as much as some people think by the fact that all walls were at 90 degree angles. The weapon selection is great as well, from the drunk missiles to the firebomb, very fun stuff.

[Superczar]

I want you former ROTT players to try and sell this game to me. From what I read up on this site, and it's description, it sounds fantastic. However, i've never heard much conversation about it anywhere else. I do have windows xp though. This may be a problem, i presume. In any case, I want you all to try and talk to me about what's cool about this game. It sounds like it has some wicked features.

How's this for a selling point? Buy it or I will be seeing you from whatever belltower you are near...

[megarust]

How's this for a selling point? Buy it or I will be seeing you from whatever belltower you are near...

I didn't think the belltower needed anybody to ring the bell nowadays. Hey, maybe i'll look for ya while I casually aim my sniper rifle in that direction, as I do daily!

[Superczar]

Seriously, get the game, it's that good. If you liked Wolf 3d at all then you'll love this...

[Joe Siegler]

Read this.

http://www.classicgaming.com/rott/hell/

[megarust]

Thanks Joe, that helps. I've got a question about the levels though. When it says 'up to sixteen stories high and an area of one million sq. feet', are there any skyscrapers in this game or? I mean, it would be pretty wicked to walk into a building from outside and take an elevator up to any floor of your choosing. Anything like that?

And how well does that XP port work anyway? I don't want to buy the game and find out I can't play it

[Joe Siegler]

Those height figures are a reference to the mapping tech used at the time. It's 16 stories high because of the fact that this is at it's heart Wolfenstein 3D code.

It's super advanced, but the 16 story high thing refers to the fact that Wolf engine code basically has floors and buildings that don't go any higher than the "level you're in". ROTT code goes 16 "grids" high, hence 16 floors.

Not sure where the square foot thing comes from, probably some markting stuff.

[MarkJ]

'up to 16 stories high' doesn't mean you can have a 16 floor building like you may think. What it really means is that each level can have one of 16 heights (which each height being an increment being about the height of the player). There are some nice features (like GADS) which allow you to create elevated floors of sorts, which you can then walk under.

It's a great game though, and certainly a requisit to having a complete collection of classic games.

'Ludicrous Gibs!' The best bonus ever.

[Rider]

I read that Hell page, and suddenly I remember why I chose to be a programmer. Sounds like you guys where having fun on that game now where you

"I'm free!"

[megarust]

Ah ok, pardon my ignorance Sounds neat anyway. Are there any significant differences between the downloadable version online and the cd retail version? If not, i'll definitely pay for the downloadable version.

[moron]

no I think the download has everything
also extreem ROTT and all the extra levels are released as free ware so even if its not included in the download you can get it from the apogee site

[TerminX]

no I think the download has everything
also extreem ROTT and all the extra levels are released as free ware so even if its not included in the download you can get it from the apogee site

That doesn't sound right. I distinctively remember someone asking if the extra stuff that was only availiable on the CD would be made availiable for download for people who bought the download version, and the answer being no.

It might've had something to do with the CD version being out of stock, making the only way to buy it the downloadable version.

[Joe Siegler]

no I think the download has everything

No way - there's tons more stuff on the CD. Which, by the way, we still don't have any of, so the downloadable version is the only one available at the moment.

[megarust]

Poop. Any chance of more cds being available in the next.....month maybe? If not, do you have any idea when? Not sure if I should hold out until more cds are available or not.

[Joe Siegler]

I wish I could answer that. I delivered the final CD master to the guy who has to approve it like 6 months ago. I've never gotten a response back.

[megarust]

Ok, not a big deal. I'll hold off until they're available I suppose. Or maybe I can find one on ebay or someplace else.

edit: Just bid on one right now for real cheap. Looks like it's even got the old huge box!

[Joe Siegler]

The ones on Ebay are an old version.

The new CD master I made combines the EROTT CD with the ROTT CD, and has everything we have ever put out for ROTT on it period. Including several user things - it's the definitive ROTT CD.

Now if our guy here would ever approve it, we can start selling them again.

[megarust]

Makes me wish I wouldn't have bid on it already. Is the extra content downloadable for free anyway, or will I be losing out on good stuff? Not sure if it makes a difference, I'm already obliged to pay the money that I offered on the bid.

[Joe Siegler]

Some of it is, some of it isn't. I put this CD together like 7-8 months ago, I can't recall at the moment exactly everything that's on it.

[Shielder]

While we're "talking" about Rise of the Triad, can someone enlighten me as to how you use the cheats (not the alternate cheats, but the ones with preceeding backslashes) in the game.

I've looked at both the cheats on the website and on the "Apogee FAQ", followed the instructions provided, and still can't get cheats like the \EKG cheat to work. Maybe this is something that only works on US layout keyboards? In case you're wondering, i'm from the UK, and have a UK layout keyboard.

Any insight anyone can give me will be greatly accepted.

[Frenkel]

I can't recall at the moment exactly everything that's on it.

http://www.apogeecentral.tk/

It doesn't really say it includes the game itself .

BTW that cake in front of my name is pretty cool, Joe

[Brick_Sledge]

Happy birthday Frenkel!

[Frenkel]

Thanks

[thefly]

Custom Remote Ridicule files and one on one death matches made me love ROTT. Also, on of the bloodiest games I've ever played

Unfortunatelly it is near impossible to find TWO people with working copies of ROTT and old school computers (and old school modems) to run them on. Still the best deathmatch I've ever played...or likely will ever play.

[MarkJ]

While we're "talking" about Rise of the Triad, can someone enlighten me as to how you use the cheats (not the alternate cheats, but the ones with preceeding backslashes) in the game.

You just type them in like normal cheats. You go into the game, type in the enable cheat codes code ('dipstick' or '\ecc'), and then your free to type in any other codes as you wish. Make sure that you are using the right slash (Which is the '\' one), otherwise they won't work.

Personally, I prefer the slash version of the cheats. They are much quicker to type, and most of the acronyms are fairly self explanatory. Oh yeah, and the EKG chect is only available using them too (That cheat rules).

[megarust]

w00t! Someone outbid me on ROTT within a few minutes until the auction expires. Yay! Now I don't have to pay him and I can wait for the good version, whenever that guy Joe has been bugging gets around to it.

[moron]

I was refering to the levels you can find them all (I think) on the apogee page of cores the CD has other stuff like randrott and pics and other stuff, what other new stuff is on the new are you including GLrott?

[Shielder]

Thanks for that... but it still didn't work.

However, in a fit of frustration, I did manage to find out how to enter those cheat codes on a UK layout keyboard (or any other language keyboard with a layout very similar of the UK layout.) Basically, you press the hash key instead of the backslash key, then the three letter code.

e.g. instead of <font color="red"> \EKG </font>, you would instead type: <font color="red"> #EKG </font>.

I won't go into too much detail as to how I found this out but will only mention that I decided to try the only other key which is in a different place on a US keyboard, other than the backslash key.

Joe, if you ever read this, IMHO I think you should add this tip to the ROTT cheat section of the website, but only if you want to and/or feel it is necessary to do so.

P.S. I've just now seen the Extreme Gib mode, and for a game as old as ROTT is, I am impressed.

[shiranui]

I've said it before, and i'll say it again:

"THEY'LL BURY YOU IN A LUNCHBOX!!!"

Darian, one of the best villains ever!

Also Joe, the original voice of Duke Nukem, remains one of the greatest voice actors of all time.

<font color="red"> Blooooooooooood </font>

[Joe Siegler]

Also Joe, the original voice of Duke Nukem, remains one of the greatest voice actors of all time.

Not sure what you're looking to gain by sticking your tongue that far up my ass.

[moron]

well as I recall it was the furst speaking hero in a apogee game for me that was a big suprise (unless your counting the dope fish's burping as talking)

[Superczar]

Not sure what you're looking to gain by sticking your tongue that far up my ass.

Maybe he's just checking for polyps.

[Joe Siegler]

well as I recall it was the furst speaking hero in a apogee game for me that was a big suprise (unless your counting the dope fish's burping as talking)

Now that I think about it, you might be right - I can't recall another Apogee game before Duke Nukem II (Dec 3, 1993 - same date as Blake Stone, and one week before Doom) might be the first game with actual speech in it.

Dopefish's "burps" in Keen 4 aren't true burps. It's just a sound effect like everything else in the game. It's not created from a burp sound converted or anything like that - it's just a sound effect that sounds like burping. Subsequent appearances of Dopefish in other games generally use my burp wav files that are on Dopefish.com, but that's an unofficial gag thing - it's not "legitimate", so to speak.

[Frenkel]

Dopefish is not the hero of Keen 4.

The hero of Wolfenstein 3D says: "Yeah!", when you finish the 1st and 5th episode.

And Johnny Dash does al lot of talking in Monster Bash.

[Joe Siegler]

Oh yeah, forgot about the speech in Wolfenstein 3D.

The bosses also talk - but in German.

[moron]

thats right with the COOL death cam as well but I guess that duke was the first in house apogee game to have voice but there have only really been 5 or 6 in house games so thats not such a big deal

[jbailey]

I'm with megarust's opinion on the new rott cd being available as soon as possible! Joe did a lot of work putting it together and I for one would love to buy a copy of the new cd as soon as it's out, I wonder what the guy that joe gave the master cd to is waiting on?

jbailey

[shiranui]

Not sure what you're looking to gain by sticking your tongue that far up my ass.

Don't be revolting, Joseph! I wouldn't lick your ring if it was glazed with honey!

[megarust]

Any progress on getting more ROTT in stock?