Max Payne the movie could be a reality!

Mariamus · 01-28-2005, 03:48 PM

Right, after I saw the graphic novel movies on a website, I found them lacking a lot of the story since they didn't include the game action.

So now i'm taking action!

I need a butt load of good gamers with the following specifications:

1: You need a computer good enough to run the game on the best settings at the 640x480x32 resolution without any lag.

2: You have know-how on how to record the game action.

3: You have quality aiming ability, so you don't run around like a headless chicken

4: You have a good internet connection, since you will be FTP'ing the video you record to me for editing.

5: Some people will be needed to record the graphic novels.

Participants will be the team to create the Max Payne movie, and will be credited in the end-credits

Thank you

:EDIT:
Ivan asked if this was legal, I don't see a problem with it as long as nobody makes money out of it, and it won't be an all out tutorial like movie, but edited a lot since it would probably take a shit load of time to make it all into one big movie. But I could be wrong, anybody?

01-28-2005, 05:39 PM

Max Payne 1 or 2...? Plus your forgetting that uncompressed AVI will be approximately 10MB a second....and unless you have a good program to re-encode it, you could lose a lot of the quality.
Plus - if you want good quality movies... You might need a graphics card that can do Anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering...

However, I think I could help. I have 1.5Mbps ADSL Internet connection, a 2.6Ghtz Computer with my brand new ATI X800... and 512Mb RAM.

If you need my help - just holler.

Lupara · 01-28-2005, 05:40 PM

It's a good idea. I had it in my mind. Actually i already did one
chapter as a moive. It was Max Payne 1 (since MP2 runs so slow on my computer and i'm wondering how could i beat it
at all

.

It wasn't so hard

I only have had lost FULL day,
doing one chapter: It was Prologue, when Max found his wife
and daughter dead. And plus i haven't done the sounds...

About the leagal side of the job. It's abs. legal to make a
screen reproduction of Max Payne and NOT make it as commercial product. So don't wory. (Someone can
say that posting screenshots is illigal too lol

Good Luck
May the force be with you....

EDIT: No wories about the size, that's not a problem at all
with MPEG4 DivX...

Mariamus · 01-28-2005, 07:18 PM

My graphics card is all well and fine for this stuff, no problem there

I was thinking that people who usually make movies with Max Payne would know how to compress it without a huge loss of quality.

I'm pretty sure this can work, the only problem would be who is willing to host a video file that big when it's all done. If it's about 1-1½ hours long, it'll take up at least 600 MB if i'm not all wrong.

Ivan · 01-28-2005, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Mariamus said:
My graphics card is all well and fine for this stuff, no problem there

I was thinking that people who usually make movies with Max Payne would know how to compress it without a huge loss of quality.

I'm pretty sure this can work, the only problem would be who is willing to host a video file that big when it's all done. If it's about 1-1½ hours long, it'll take up at least 600 MB if i'm not all wrong.

I would..I am always willing to use my FTP!

But the thing is you will have to upload it to my FTP (Long story) and you will be the one with 600MB of Upload on your Internet Bill that month..

So I guess you don't want me to host it in that case.

Mariamus · 01-28-2005, 07:57 PM

600MB of upload on my internet bill?
I have unlimited DSL, I don't pay-per-byte

Ivan · 01-28-2005, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Mariamus said:
600MB of upload on my internet bill?
I have unlimited DSL, I don't pay-per-byte

Then you got a deal my dear.

Upload more than 600MB if you want to. You know how.

(If you want to..'cause I have no problem with it..

)

01-29-2005, 01:19 AM

THe only thing I can think of that is flawless in quality wise though is MPEG-2 DVD standard. That is usually only 500kb/s with sound. THe thing is, is that with DivX and Xvid and all that is that sometimes it goes blocky and can look pretty bad, however MPEG keeps focus and doesn't blur edges and things.

I have Fraps 2.5 so I could easily record sound (and trust me - you don't want to try and record the video only and try and add in the sounds manually - it's a pain in the ass. (I've tried))

I'll see how big my Prologue chapter ends up being and I'll tell you. The only annoying thing I forgot to mention as well is that I don't know how to get rid of the Hud when playing. How the hell do you get that to disappear?????? I know you can do it in MP2 but it isn't the same code.

Also - For the graphic novels... Each novel page is only a couple hundred kilobytes and the audio will also be a couple of hundred kilobytes... Is there anyway to make a sort of program that displays the image and plays audio at the same time. If you record it, it will probably several tens of megabytes... (anyway of making it into a Shockwave Flash File???) And is there some way to make a program that will have a list of files to play and then play it one after the other (eg. say Ch1.avi, novel1.swf or something like that???

Joonas · 01-29-2005, 04:01 AM

More tweaks under way, Mariamus.

I could with my 1024MB ram and 6800GT... ... but I need to replace the ram and my motherboard...

ADM · 01-29-2005, 06:39 AM

Run this by Remedy, most gaming companies wouldn't want this to happen but I'm sure Remedy will be fine with it.

So send an email to Mika and he'll be able to tell you if you can or can't:

[email protected]

Another thing I'll be able to host the file for you at the end regardless of what the size is...so don't need to worry about that.

biXen · 01-29-2005, 06:57 AM

Rockstar owns the game, not Remedy

Ivan · 01-29-2005, 07:08 AM

You look to know a lot about sizes and editing and stuff like that. So tell me around how much MB (or GB) will be the final product?

Mariamus · 01-29-2005, 07:29 AM

Joonas is making a tweak that takes the hud away along with the weapons menu.
It will also give God mode (so no need to worry about dying while recording.) and a little extra bullettime, not much though.

I think he also added unlimited bullets, but not all weapons to begins with

Ivan · 01-29-2005, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Mariamus said:
Joonas is making a tweak that takes the hud away along with the weapons menu.
It will also give God mode (so no need to worry about dying while recording.) and a little extra bullettime, not much though.

I think he also added unlimited bullets, but not all weapons to begins with

Yeah, always better to have the safety cap on.

ADM · 01-29-2005, 07:46 AM

Quote:

biXen said:
Rockstar owns the game, not Remedy

oops yeah haha..

Send it to Richard then:

[email protected]

ADM · 01-29-2005, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Ivan said:

Quote:

Mariamus said:
600MB of upload on my internet bill?
I have unlimited DSL, I don't pay-per-byte

Then you got a deal my dear.

Upload more than 600MB if you want to. You know how.

(If you want to..'cause I have no problem with it..

)

One thing though Ivan is it's probably not ideal to host the 600mb file for public released on your "FTP" connection.. mainly because 600mb downloaded by thousands would successfully rape the server you're hosted on.

HTTP is not meant for downloads like that and judging from the links in your sig that's all you've got (unless you've got a public FTP server as well).

Anyway point is it's best to use services that are capable of supporting the load a file that large would bring. I've got access to EdgeFiles (which also in turns also auto mirrors on FileFront) and I'm sure Joonas could upload it to Fileplanet as well.

So it's ideal to either limit it to those (and other capable services).

Ivan · 01-29-2005, 08:00 AM

Quote:

ADM said:

Quote:

Ivan said:

Quote:

Mariamus said:
600MB of upload on my internet bill?
I have unlimited DSL, I don't pay-per-byte

Then you got a deal my dear.

Upload more than 600MB if you want to. You know how.

(If you want to..'cause I have no problem with it..

)

One thing though Ivan is it's probably not ideal to host the 600mb file for public released on your "FTP" connection.. mainly because 600mb downloaded by thousands would successfully rape the server you're hosted on.

HTTP is not meant for downloads like that and judging from the links in your sig that's all you've got (unless you've got a public FTP server as well).

Anyway point is it's best to use services that are capable of supporting the load a file that large would bring. I've got access to EdgeFiles (which also in turns also auto mirrors on FileFront) and I'm sure Joonas could upload it to Fileplanet as well.

So it's ideal to either limit it to those (and other capable services).

Oh well, if you see it on that side of the story..then okay I won't host it.

The thing is that I want to use my FTP to good use whenever I can! *G*

ADM · 01-29-2005, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Ivan said:
Oh well, if you see it on that side of the story..then okay I won't host it.

The thing is that I want to use my FTP to good use whenever I can! *G*

By all means host it if you want, but remember I warned you.

Are you sure the guy that is hosting you does have either unlimited space and/or bandwidth?

Because heck I've got 3 paid hosted servers and I wouldn't even dream of hosting a 600mb file on any of them. One of them has ALOT of bandwidth but still wouldn't be able to cope with the load.

This is mainly the reason I am bringing up the Max Payne Dev FileDB next month, to host things like this related to MP.

Ivan · 01-29-2005, 08:16 AM

Quote:

ADM said:

Quote:

Ivan said:
Oh well, if you see it on that side of the story..then okay I won't host it.

The thing is that I want to use my FTP to good use whenever I can! *G*

By all means host it if you want, but remember I warned you.

Are you sure the guy that is hosting you does have either unlimited space and/or bandwidth?

Because heck I've got 3 paid hosted servers and I wouldn't even dream of hosting a 600mb file on any of them. One of them has ALOT of bandwidth but still wouldn't be able to cope with the load.

This is mainly the reason I am bringing up the Max Payne Dev FileDB next month, to host things like this related to MP.

He told me unlimited..but maybe he didn't think I'd host a 600MB file on the FTP...

ADM · 01-29-2005, 08:18 AM

Well just check with him if it's ok and if theres a public FTP server.

Maxtream · 01-29-2005, 02:10 PM

I actually started to make a movie for the first game. I got as far as the begining of Playing it Bogard. Then I realized that I there was somethig wrong with my divx-setting that I used to encode the edited footage. For very short periods of time the footage was played slightly faster than normal. It was just a minor glitch thus I noticed it so late, but it bugged me so bad that I didn't continue. The only way to finish it is back to the start and learn from the mistake. Don't throw away the original recorded footage! It's a hell of a lot of disk space, but DVD-Rs are cheap storage. Use a lossless codec in the editing stage or you'll suffer a great deal of quality loss each time you re-encode another generation.

I used Fraps to record in 1024x768. Although I have a fast machine, I still got frame-drops. As you're planning to record in just 640x480, it shouldn't be a problem when you use a decent machine. To be on the safe side it's better to have the Fraps' fps-display on and check if you got at least your desired frame rate when you record.

As for the graphic novels, I did record them using Fraps, but I wasn't satisfied with the result. So I took that footage as a pre-viz and re-edited the novel sequences using the original files that can be extracted from the game. It looks really crisp and the sound is way better, and there're no play control panels on screen (I know, those can be blacked out easily in an editing program). It's a hell of extra work but I think it's worth the stretch.

I hope I could help.

Maxtream · 01-29-2005, 02:13 PM

I forgot to include this to my favorites. Sorry for the extra post.

Ivan · 01-29-2005, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Maxtream said:
I forgot to include this to my favorites. Sorry for the extra post.

<OT>There's a button for that at the button of every thread</OT>

Sorry.

Maxtream · 01-29-2005, 02:22 PM

Thanks for the advise. I didn't know it. Next time I'll use it.

Mariamus · 01-29-2005, 05:35 PM

Maybe I could have you in charge of doing the graphic novel sequences then!

Sayantan · 01-29-2005, 07:47 PM

Mail R* first please. Just to be sure that you are on the safe side.

Pink · 01-30-2005, 10:57 AM

Great idea Mariamus. Good luck! I've been meaning to do that myself for a while now but I never got around to it.

01-28-2005, 05:39 PM	#2
Piano Man Guest	Re: Max Payne the movie could be a reality! Max Payne 1 or 2...? Plus your forgetting that uncompressed AVI will be approximately 10MB a second....and unless you have a good program to re-encode it, you could lose a lot of the quality. Plus - if you want good quality movies... You might need a graphics card that can do Anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering... However, I think I could help. I have 1.5Mbps ADSL Internet connection, a 2.6Ghtz Computer with my brand new ATI X800... and 512Mb RAM. If you need my help - just holler.

01-29-2005, 01:19 AM	#8
Piano Man Guest	Re: Max Payne the movie could be a reality! THe only thing I can think of that is flawless in quality wise though is MPEG-2 DVD standard. That is usually only 500kb/s with sound. THe thing is, is that with DivX and Xvid and all that is that sometimes it goes blocky and can look pretty bad, however MPEG keeps focus and doesn't blur edges and things. I have Fraps 2.5 so I could easily record sound (and trust me - you don't want to try and record the video only and try and add in the sounds manually - it's a pain in the ass. (I've tried)) I'll see how big my Prologue chapter ends up being and I'll tell you. The only annoying thing I forgot to mention as well is that I don't know how to get rid of the Hud when playing. How the hell do you get that to disappear?????? I know you can do it in MP2 but it isn't the same code. Also - For the graphic novels... Each novel page is only a couple hundred kilobytes and the audio will also be a couple of hundred kilobytes... Is there anyway to make a sort of program that displays the image and plays audio at the same time. If you record it, it will probably several tens of megabytes... (anyway of making it into a Shockwave Flash File???) And is there some way to make a program that will have a list of files to play and then play it one after the other (eg. say Ch1.avi, novel1.swf or something like that???

01-28-2005, 03:48 PM	#1
Mariamus	Max Payne the movie could be a reality! Right, after I saw the graphic novel movies on a website, I found them lacking a lot of the story since they didn't include the game action. So now i'm taking action! I need a butt load of good gamers with the following specifications: 1: You need a computer good enough to run the game on the best settings at the 640x480x32 resolution without any lag. 2: You have know-how on how to record the game action. 3: You have quality aiming ability, so you don't run around like a headless chicken 4: You have a good internet connection, since you will be FTP'ing the video you record to me for editing. 5: Some people will be needed to record the graphic novels. Participants will be the team to create the Max Payne movie, and will be credited in the end-credits Thank you :EDIT: Ivan asked if this was legal, I don't see a problem with it as long as nobody makes money out of it, and it won't be an all out tutorial like movie, but edited a lot since it would probably take a shit load of time to make it all into one big movie. But I could be wrong, anybody? __________________ I would venture to warn against too great intimacy with artists as it is very seductive and a little dangerous.” - Queen Victoria Indeed, America's new slogan is slowly becoming "Land of the free.. unless it offends anyone!" - Hudson

01-28-2005, 05:40 PM	#3
Lupara	Re: Max Payne the movie could be a reality! It's a good idea. I had it in my mind. Actually i already did one chapter as a moive. It was Max Payne 1 (since MP2 runs so slow on my computer and i'm wondering how could i beat it at all . It wasn't so hard I only have had lost FULL day, doing one chapter: It was Prologue, when Max found his wife and daughter dead. And plus i haven't done the sounds... About the leagal side of the job. It's abs. legal to make a screen reproduction of Max Payne and NOT make it as commercial product. So don't wory. (Someone can say that posting screenshots is illigal too lol Good Luck May the force be with you.... EDIT: No wories about the size, that's not a problem at all with MPEG4 DivX...

01-28-2005, 07:18 PM	#4
Mariamus	Re: Max Payne the movie could be a reality! My graphics card is all well and fine for this stuff, no problem there I was thinking that people who usually make movies with Max Payne would know how to compress it without a huge loss of quality. I'm pretty sure this can work, the only problem would be who is willing to host a video file that big when it's all done. If it's about 1-1½ hours long, it'll take up at least 600 MB if i'm not all wrong. __________________ I would venture to warn against too great intimacy with artists as it is very seductive and a little dangerous.” - Queen Victoria Indeed, America's new slogan is slowly becoming "Land of the free.. unless it offends anyone!" - Hudson

01-28-2005, 07:57 PM	#6
Mariamus	Re: Max Payne the movie could be a reality! 600MB of upload on my internet bill? I have unlimited DSL, I don't pay-per-byte __________________ I would venture to warn against too great intimacy with artists as it is very seductive and a little dangerous.” - Queen Victoria Indeed, America's new slogan is slowly becoming "Land of the free.. unless it offends anyone!" - Hudson

01-29-2005, 04:01 AM	#9
Joonas	Re: Max Payne the movie could be a reality! More tweaks under way, Mariamus. I could with my 1024MB ram and 6800GT... ... but I need to replace the ram and my motherboard... __________________ Deep Six's Content/Staff Director: http://www.3dap.com/maxpayne/ E-mail and MSN Messenger: [email protected]

01-29-2005, 06:39 AM	#10
ADM	Re: Max Payne the movie could be a reality! Run this by Remedy, most gaming companies wouldn't want this to happen but I'm sure Remedy will be fine with it. So send an email to Mika and he'll be able to tell you if you can or can't: [email protected] Another thing I'll be able to host the file for you at the end regardless of what the size is...so don't need to worry about that.

01-29-2005, 06:57 AM	#11
biXen	Re: Max Payne the movie could be a reality! Rockstar owns the game, not Remedy __________________ bee-digital - my new web dev blog Max Payne fan site Alan Wake fan site

01-29-2005, 07:08 AM	#12
Ivan	Re: Max Payne the movie could be a reality! You look to know a lot about sizes and editing and stuff like that. So tell me around how much MB (or GB) will be the final product?

01-29-2005, 07:29 AM	#13
Mariamus	Re: Max Payne the movie could be a reality! Joonas is making a tweak that takes the hud away along with the weapons menu. It will also give God mode (so no need to worry about dying while recording.) and a little extra bullettime, not much though. I think he also added unlimited bullets, but not all weapons to begins with __________________ I would venture to warn against too great intimacy with artists as it is very seductive and a little dangerous.” - Queen Victoria Indeed, America's new slogan is slowly becoming "Land of the free.. unless it offends anyone!" - Hudson

01-29-2005, 08:18 AM	#20
ADM	Re: Max Payne the movie could be a reality! Well just check with him if it's ok and if theres a public FTP server.

01-29-2005, 02:10 PM	#21
Maxtream	Re: Max Payne the movie could be a reality! I actually started to make a movie for the first game. I got as far as the begining of Playing it Bogard. Then I realized that I there was somethig wrong with my divx-setting that I used to encode the edited footage. For very short periods of time the footage was played slightly faster than normal. It was just a minor glitch thus I noticed it so late, but it bugged me so bad that I didn't continue. The only way to finish it is back to the start and learn from the mistake. Don't throw away the original recorded footage! It's a hell of a lot of disk space, but DVD-Rs are cheap storage. Use a lossless codec in the editing stage or you'll suffer a great deal of quality loss each time you re-encode another generation. I used Fraps to record in 1024x768. Although I have a fast machine, I still got frame-drops. As you're planning to record in just 640x480, it shouldn't be a problem when you use a decent machine. To be on the safe side it's better to have the Fraps' fps-display on and check if you got at least your desired frame rate when you record. As for the graphic novels, I did record them using Fraps, but I wasn't satisfied with the result. So I took that footage as a pre-viz and re-edited the novel sequences using the original files that can be extracted from the game. It looks really crisp and the sound is way better, and there're no play control panels on screen (I know, those can be blacked out easily in an editing program). It's a hell of extra work but I think it's worth the stretch. I hope I could help. __________________ I swim in you - In your dark rivers - Dive in your mind Search for your monsters - Search for resistance - Sink into the mud Dance in the halls of insanity Yet madness is - Your highest deed - Your vanity

01-29-2005, 02:13 PM	#22
Maxtream	Re: Max Payne the movie could be a reality! I forgot to include this to my favorites. Sorry for the extra post. __________________ I swim in you - In your dark rivers - Dive in your mind Search for your monsters - Search for resistance - Sink into the mud Dance in the halls of insanity Yet madness is - Your highest deed - Your vanity

01-29-2005, 02:22 PM	#24
Maxtream	Re: Max Payne the movie could be a reality! Thanks for the advise. I didn't know it. Next time I'll use it. __________________ I swim in you - In your dark rivers - Dive in your mind Search for your monsters - Search for resistance - Sink into the mud Dance in the halls of insanity Yet madness is - Your highest deed - Your vanity

01-29-2005, 05:35 PM	#25
Mariamus	Re: Max Payne the movie could be a reality! Maybe I could have you in charge of doing the graphic novel sequences then! __________________ I would venture to warn against too great intimacy with artists as it is very seductive and a little dangerous.” - Queen Victoria Indeed, America's new slogan is slowly becoming "Land of the free.. unless it offends anyone!" - Hudson

01-29-2005, 07:47 PM	#26
Sayantan	Re: Max Payne the movie could be a reality! Mail R* first please. Just to be sure that you are on the safe side. __________________ LinkedIn Profile

01-30-2005, 10:57 AM	#27
Pink	Re: Max Payne the movie could be a reality! Great idea Mariamus. Good luck! I've been meaning to do that myself for a while now but I never got around to it. __________________ "Strangers passing in the street, by chance two separate glances meet. And I am you and what I see is me. And do I take you by the hand and lead you through the land and help me understand the best I can?" Pink Floyd- "Echoes"