Strange graphical bug

Puritan · 03-27-2009, 02:43 AM

Over the years I've built several maps for Duke Nukem.
My latest mapping project is turning out in a most strange way.
A graphical error that I've never seen before appears.

I've got a betatester for my map and this error appears on his rig too.

The error appeared both before and after the latest HRP release so I don't think that is an issue.

Anyone who might know what causing this?

Parkar · 03-27-2009, 03:28 AM

Not sure what's going on but it looks like a hall of mirror error. This happens when a part of a level does not get drawn or gets drawn transparently so the last frame shines through.

What does it look like in classic mode?

Plagman · 03-27-2009, 03:34 AM

Are some of these walls and floors marked as parallaxing?

Puritan · 03-27-2009, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Parkar

Not sure what's going on but it looks like a hall of mirror error. This happens when a part of a level does not get drawn or gets drawn transparently so the last frame shines through.

What does it look like in classic mode?

Will test it in classic mode tonight.

Could this have something to do with copy/paste of a cluster of sectors?

You see, this is a starship containing three decks.
I've built a deck and then copy/paste it two times.
This copy/paste took place at an early stage of building. These three decks have been heavily modified since copy/paste.

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Originally Posted by Plagman

Are some of these walls and floors marked as parallaxing?

There shouldn't be parallaxing in those areas at all. Might have touched the "P" key by accident though.
The map has more than 2500 sectors so it will be one hell of a job to search for mistakenly parallaxed sectors...

HellFire · 03-27-2009, 08:28 AM

You pressed T (for transparency) in the floors. This is used for the transparent water of Room over Room ( or sector over sector, whatever). To fix this just press T again until it turns to normal.

Puritan · 03-27-2009, 11:53 AM

^Thank you very much for your help Parkar, Plagman and Hellfire!

The one with the correct solution was: HellFire.

**

I didn't know about that "T" key.
When mapping I constantly using the "R" key in order to check the sprites and texture placing.
It's easy to hit the neighbour key by mistake.
If I find a texture I like I use the tab key to copy it and spread the texture out in the map.
If this texture is "polluted" by the "T" key the error would appear many places.
That's what happened this time so I have to spend some 30-40 hours correcting the textures.

Wish it was a key in Mapster that correct all of them at once...

What about a feature in Mapster32 that :

1. Show all parallaxed sectors highlighted in 2D mode?
2. Show all transparent sectors highlighted in 2D mode?
...and so on...

Zaxtor · 04-02-2009, 07:37 PM

Weirdest error ever.

also this error.
Reminds me of a few star trek voyager episodes.

when 2 voyagers are merged together and cause something similar to that.

Also that pig dead reminds me of a episode with a bomb on voyager causing weird things such as that ghost effect thing when Chekotay walks.

NightFright · 04-03-2009, 04:30 AM

Looks like you were using 3D glasses!

I would certainly puke after playing like this for a while...

Puritan · 04-03-2009, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by NightFright

Looks like you were using 3D glasses!

I would certainly puke after playing like this for a while...

Imagine what it was like, walking around for hours staring at the floor and constantly moving the mouse back and forth in order to detect all this mistagged sectors.....

The Commander · 04-03-2009, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Puritan

Imagine what it was like, walking around for hours staring at the floor and constantly moving the mouse back and forth in order to detect all this mistagged sectors.....

What you should have done was gave the map to someone who had fresh eyes when you were done with the map before release, that way they might have found the other's that I have seen.

Puritan · 04-03-2009, 06:00 AM

^Yes, you're right. After a while my eyes started to overlook this errors that was right in front of me.

There will be a re-release soon with updated bat.file, game.con and map.file

The Commander · 04-03-2009, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Puritan

There will be a re-release soon with updated bat.file, game.con and map.file

Good to hear, then I will be able to play it propley then.

Sang · 04-03-2009, 06:23 AM

Had this problem with SMND as well. When you turn on bloom it gets even weirder

Zaxtor · 04-03-2009, 10:11 AM

game is already 3D

Maybe is what the 4th dimension really looks like.

The Commander · 04-03-2009, 07:50 PM

What the hell are you talking about?

03-27-2009, 03:28 AM	#2
Parkar	Re: Strange graphical bug Not sure what's going on but it looks like a hall of mirror error. This happens when a part of a level does not get drawn or gets drawn transparently so the last frame shines through. What does it look like in classic mode? __________________ Action Unreal Tournament Duke Nukem 3D: High Resolution Pack HRP wiki: A HRP development tool

03-27-2009, 03:34 AM	#3
Plagman	Re: Strange graphical bug Are some of these walls and floors marked as parallaxing? __________________ EDuke32 - "The corrupt doctrine of terror has begun."

03-27-2009, 08:28 AM	#5
HellFire	Re: Strange graphical bug You pressed T (for transparency) in the floors. This is used for the transparent water of Room over Room ( or sector over sector, whatever). To fix this just press T again until it turns to normal. __________________ \|NG\|HellFire - Duke Nukem Brasil: www.dukenukem.com.br

03-27-2009, 11:53 AM	#6
Puritan	Re: Strange graphical bug ^Thank you very much for your help Parkar, Plagman and Hellfire! The one with the correct solution was: HellFire. ** I didn't know about that "T" key. When mapping I constantly using the "R" key in order to check the sprites and texture placing. It's easy to hit the neighbour key by mistake. If I find a texture I like I use the tab key to copy it and spread the texture out in the map. If this texture is "polluted" by the "T" key the error would appear many places. That's what happened this time so I have to spend some 30-40 hours correcting the textures. Wish it was a key in Mapster that correct all of them at once... What about a feature in Mapster32 that : 1. Show all parallaxed sectors highlighted in 2D mode? 2. Show all transparent sectors highlighted in 2D mode? ...and so on... __________________ Hail to the king, baby !: http://dukerepository.com/

04-02-2009, 07:37 PM	#7
Zaxtor	Re: Strange graphical bug Weirdest error ever. also this error. Reminds me of a few star trek voyager episodes. when 2 voyagers are merged together and cause something similar to that. Also that pig dead reminds me of a episode with a bomb on voyager causing weird things such as that ghost effect thing when Chekotay walks. __________________ OBLIVION'S STATUS. Maps are 100%, Textures are 100% {FINISHED} Current status RELEASED http://www.fileplanet.com/hosteddl.a...ivionfinal.zip.

04-03-2009, 04:30 AM	#8
NightFright	Re: Strange graphical bug Looks like you were using 3D glasses! I would certainly puke after playing like this for a while... __________________ Duke3D HRP Update Pack Duke3D HRP Wiki To-Do List

04-03-2009, 06:00 AM	#11
Puritan	Re: Strange graphical bug ^Yes, you're right. After a while my eyes started to overlook this errors that was right in front of me. There will be a re-release soon with updated bat.file, game.con and map.file __________________ Hail to the king, baby !: http://dukerepository.com/

04-03-2009, 06:23 AM	#13
Sang	Re: Strange graphical bug Had this problem with SMND as well. When you turn on bloom it gets even weirder __________________ traB pu kcip

04-03-2009, 10:11 AM	#14
Zaxtor	Re: Strange graphical bug game is already 3D Maybe is what the 4th dimension really looks like. __________________ OBLIVION'S STATUS. Maps are 100%, Textures are 100% {FINISHED} Current status RELEASED http://www.fileplanet.com/hosteddl.a...ivionfinal.zip.

04-03-2009, 07:50 PM	#15
The Commander	Re: Strange graphical bug What the hell are you talking about? __________________ I Know Everything There Is To Know About Anything. Duke Nukem Red Alert SVN Ask Me Anything!