Continued Development of DNF Confirmed

ultra tree 85! · 12-26-2009, 06:41 PM

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As for the long-coming Duke Nukem Forever, Miller stressed that "we've never said that Duke Nukem Forever has ceased development," explaining "yes, we released the internal team, but that doesn't correlate to the demise of the project." Back in June, 3D Realms claimed it was still working on "the development of" Duke Nukem Forever, despite having "released the majority of its employees working on the development."

Link- http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/61747

The above article from which I obtained the quote included statements from Scott Miller which confirm that they are still pursuing the project, and that even though internal development is behind them, the game is not a closed book.

Why is this significant? Well, because many have wondered whether 3DR is in fact continuing the game's development, and now we need no longer wonder about this. The answer is yes, they still have a few internal employees and it's very likely that they are working with an external team to finish the game.

The best thing about this interview with Scott is that it confirms that our worst fear isn't true: that 3DR has lost interest in the completion of DNF. Now we have the comfort of knowing that they are actively working toward the game's release.

Angelo86 · 12-26-2009, 06:47 PM

We all know that Scott is good with the words but as for facts he's just like George

Baboy · 12-26-2009, 06:57 PM

The problem is that having George changing a line of the game code each day still constitues as development. I seriously doubt there are more than 5 internal people working on it, and if they're paying an external team I wonder where's the money from.

Esatche · 12-26-2009, 07:14 PM

Just go look at the comments regarding this article on shacknews http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=61747

This so called "confirmation" doesn't mean a ******* THING UNTIL ITS GONE GOLD,,,,,no not even that announcement will do anymore the only redeeming factor you have to me and I'm sure many others is when DNF is actually installed and playing on our PCs.

3drealms......... put up DNF or let it die. I'm sure this speaks for a lot of people when I say: PLEASE SHUT THE **** UP and put this bullshit marketing to an end.

Baboy · 12-26-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Esatche

3drealms......... put up DNF or let it die. I'm sure this speaks for a lot of people when I say: PLEASE SHUT THE **** UP and put this bullshit marketing to an end.

Exactly. Either speak clearly, or admit your defeat 3DR. Pretending everything's fine while not saying anything clear is not going to help anyone, in fact it's going to alienate more of the (very few by now) remaining fans.

duubhglas · 12-26-2009, 08:41 PM

Oh, damn! I'm a ******* child... I'll dream this night.

SpinX · 12-26-2009, 08:46 PM

Scott miller also responded in the comments on all the hate towards duke and 3drealms

"The hate here is deep.

But completely understandable."

Steve · 12-26-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SpinX

"The hate here is deep.

But completely understandable."

Then stop fuxing dropping D-day\DNF hints on your damn facebook.

crunchy superman · 12-26-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Baboy

The problem is that having George changing a line of the game code each day still constitues as development.

Exactly. If they could afford to develop DNF in any way at all, why get rid of the people who knew it best? They can't possibly be doing anything significant with the game in any meaningful way.

The simple, quick-turnaround casual games for the masses is the market they're entirely pursuing now. Mostly for the money, but at least partially (I think) to get around the problem of dealing with the like of us here on this site - the die hard, yet extremely pissed off fans. They'll just simply sidestep us and try to develop a whole new following that isn't as familiar with the IP, or at least isn't quite so demanding. All the while trying to pacify us with more empty blue-ball teasing, vague interviews and soul-less viral marketing.

By the time there's (if ever) any possible reality to the slightest glimmer of a notion that DNF would ever be released, the world will be so sick of the constant torrent of Duke-related shovelware, that we will have lost all desire to ever play it anyway

Duke is dead. Bah humbug!

Esatche · 12-26-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crunchy superman

Exactly. If they could afford to develop DNF in any way at all, why get rid of the people who knew it best? They can't possibly be doing anything significant with the game in any meaningful way.

The simple, quick-turnaround casual games for the masses is the market they're entirely pursuing now. Mostly for the money, but at least partially (I think) to get around the problem of dealing with the like of us here on this site - the die hard, yet extremely pissed off fans. They'll just simply sidestep us and try to develop a whole new following that isn't as familiar with the IP, or at least isn't quite so demanding. All the while trying to pacify us with more empty blue-ball teasing, vague interviews and soul-less viral marketing.

By the time there's (if ever) any possible reality to the slightest glimmer of a notion that DNF would ever be released, the world will be so sick of the constant torrent of Duke-related shovelware, that we will have lost all desire to ever play it anyway

Duke is dead. Bah humbug!

Stated for the truth. new fanbase=new money, **** the original fans/supporters who got them where they were

EvanQuinn · 12-26-2009, 09:52 PM

woohoo! ******* duke nukem on the wii! KNEW THAT SHIT WAS COMING!

thefly · 12-26-2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelo86

We all know that Scott is good with the words but as for facts he's just like George

Did 3DR ever have a Public Relations person on staff? They really could have used one all these years.

dark_angel · 12-27-2009, 12:21 AM

It is over. A company without a vision worth nothing.

I can't see how we can anymore believe anything Scott or GB say. If Duke was alive, he would had committed suicide by now.

12 Years in development, this is simply INSANE.

DerricktheW · 12-27-2009, 12:54 AM

Please bring forth more 3rd person Duke games like Zero Hour.

Please please PLEASE

Baboy · 12-27-2009, 01:45 AM

http://kotaku.com/5434679/3d-realms-...next-few-years

Kotaku has a news about the Shacknews article. Last line is for truth:
"Sorry, but at this point, games or GTFO."

terrannova · 12-27-2009, 02:18 AM

That's fantastic news thank you for this!

Duke Nukem Forever will one day be on the store shelf and when that day comes I will jump for joy and run through the streets proclaiming the good news!

Glassagate · 12-27-2009, 04:02 AM

An XBLA port of DN MP would be an instant buy.

I don't have an iPhone, and don't think that I'd get
one just for Duke. Now, if it were ported to the
Zune, or to XBLA, then I'd buy it for sure.

Duke's New Chainsaw · 12-27-2009, 04:04 AM

Cool.

Steve · 12-27-2009, 04:04 AM

Yeah

Instant buy for me too!

Altered Reality · 12-27-2009, 04:37 AM

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3D Realms CEO Vows Duke Nukem 'Resurgence' in 'Next Few Years'

He had also said that DNF would've been the best game of 1998, and his optimism was not misplaced.

Rider · 12-27-2009, 04:58 AM

"Groovy!"

KaiserSoze · 12-27-2009, 05:51 AM

Haters are gonna hate.

I'm still on board(feeling like Nathan Drake at the beginning of Uncharted 2 on board......)

I hereby proclaim that 2010 will be the year Duke Nukem Forever will return to the public eye with a vengeance!!

Kristian Joensen · 12-27-2009, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Angelo86

We all know that Scott is good with the words but as for facts he's just like George

http://www.mobygames.com/developer/s...eloperId,2152/

Edit:

Am I the only one here who actually likes the Duke franchise is looking forward to Duke games other than DNF? Everyone here seems to be equating the Duke franchise with DNF. DNF being dead != the Duke franchise being dead. So no Duke is not dead.

Edit2:

Crunchy superman, I have a hypothetical question for you. If you were Scott and someone approached you saying(or something similar) "I have a proposition for you. My company is willing to complete DNF for you, we will provide our own funding to do so. The condition being that we get X% of the revenues from DNF and that we get to call all the development shots, yes you get approval rights/final creative say, but as far as the development decisions go we make them". Would you say no just because this deal wouldn't guarantee all the guys that were laid off in May would get rehired?

Baboy · 12-27-2009, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

http://www.mobygames.com/developer/s...eloperId,2152/

He's got balls of steel.

Razorback · 12-27-2009, 06:09 AM

Next Few Years... Yeah sure! Few, what does GB know about a few years? He must think in light years?

I think GB is following the path of his old Daikatana friend Ramero <?>. Going into the cell phone gaming business, WHOOPIE!!!

Baboy · 12-27-2009, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Razorback

Next Few Years... Yeah sure! Few, what does GB know about a few years? He must think in light years?

I think GB is following the path of his old Daikatana friend Ramero <?>. Going into the cell phone gaming business, WHOOPIE!!!

Broussard is going to make you his bitch.

Razorback · 12-27-2009, 06:16 AM

Not me, I am not expecting anything from GB in the future. But before he can make somebody his bitch, first he needs to make a game. Anyway it looks like he has a new batch of bitches like you Baboy.

Baboy · 12-27-2009, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Razorback

Not me, I am not expecting anything from GB in the future. But before he can make somebody his bitch, first he needs to make a game. Anyway it looks like he has a new batch of bitches like you Baboy.

It was a Romero-reference joke, not meaning to be offensive anyhow.

At least Romero did get his game (Daikatana) out at one point - it was buggy as shit but at least it existed. With the patches applied it was OK. But where's DNF?

Razorback · 12-27-2009, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Baboy

It was a Romero-reference joke, not meaning to be offensive anyhow.

At least Romero did get his game (Daikatana) out at one point - it was buggy as shit but at least it existed. With the patches applied it was OK. But where's DNF?

Oh, I didn't get the reference, sorry! I don't know that much about Romero except he seemd to disappear after the Daikatana fiasco. But your right, at least John did get the game out.

Baboy · 12-27-2009, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Razorback

Oh, I didn't get the reference, sorry! I don't know that much about Romero except he seemd to disappear after the Daikatana fiasco. But your right, at least John did get the game out.

Romero had these huge advertisings going on saying "ROMERO IS GOING TO MAKE YOU HIS BITCH", because Daikatana was supposed to be like the best thing ever. We all know how it ended. Broussard's arrogance maybe wasn't this big, but he didn't get his game out either.

Razorback · 12-27-2009, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Baboy

Romero had these huge advertisings going on saying "ROMERO IS GOING TO MAKE YOU HIS BITCH", because Daikatana was supposed to be like the best thing ever. We all know how it ended. Broussard's arrogance maybe wasn't this big, but he didn't get his game out either.

It seems I have heard that before. The last thing I saw of Romero was some documentary where he was making cell phone and handheld type games. I would think that is where the noobs go to get their foot into the gaming world. Haven't heard a thing about Romero since then.

I saw this thread speaking about future developments with the Nukem series. I couldn't resist saying something.

X-Vector · 12-27-2009, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

Am I the only one here who actually likes the Duke franchise is looking forward to Duke games other than DNF?

Of course you're not the only one, there's plenty of people here for instance that would buy anything that says "Duke Nukem" on the cover.

Baboy · 12-27-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by X-Vector

Of course you're not the only one, there's plenty of people here for instance that would buy anything that says "Duke Nukem" on the cover.

I'd buy anything that FEELS like a Duke Nukem. Not some random rip-off with Duke pictures (eg. not a Peggle World Of Warcraft kind of game). I'd prefer a new Duke FPS, but something like Manhattan Project would be cool aswell. Just something NEW. Please. Could you imagine something like the first level of DN3D with MW2 graphics? Mind = blown.

Kray · 12-27-2009, 08:43 AM

Continued development = looking for new publishers to leech off of while wasting more time doing nothing of significant.

X-Vector · 12-27-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Baboy

Could you imagine something like the first level of DN3D with MW2 graphics? Mind = blown.

Modern Warfare 2 looks nothing like I'd want a Duke Nukem game to look like.

crunchy superman · 12-27-2009, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

If you were Scott and someone approached you saying(or something similar) "I have a proposition for you. My company is willing to complete DNF for you, we will provide our own funding to do so. The condition being that we get X% of the revenues from DNF and that we get to call all the development shots, yes you get approval rights/final creative say, but as far as the development decisions go we make them". Would you say no just because this deal wouldn't guarantee all the guys that were laid off in May would get rehired?

Seems to me that there's a lawsuit going on right now over Scott & George saying pretty much that very thing to T2.

If I were Scott, I would realize that I had a building full of people who already know DNF better than anybody else could. Why, instead of internally kicking ass to get on with it, would I choose to have an external unit start over once again, which is what they'd have to do, being so far behind the curve? And if couldn't make up my own mind as to what game we're supposed to be making internally, why would I think I'd ever approve of work that somebody else has done without my input at all?

To be honest though, I'd say they likely did have offers like that over the years.

SpinX · 12-27-2009, 09:11 AM

no numerous duke games please... just a sequel to duke 3D in FPS form... I just want a story driven duke FPS called duke nukem forever...

with all their money and bussiness models, why can't they just make it...

Kristian Joensen · 12-27-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by X-Vector

Of course you're not the only one, there's plenty of people here for instance that would buy anything that says "Duke Nukem" on the cover.

There is a wide variety of positions in between wanting to buy anything that says "Duke Nukem" on the cover and only wanting DNF and no other Duke game no matter what.

Edit:

SpinX, what about a story driven duke FPS that is not called Duke Nukem Forever? Is the name "Duke Nukem Forever" magical? Is the particular setting of Las Vegas magical? Would you not buy a great AAA next gen Duke game for your preferred platform with great graphics, great gameplay and a great story if it was not DNF?

X-Vector · 12-27-2009, 09:57 AM

Is Duke Nukem magical?

Kristian Joensen · 12-27-2009, 09:58 AM

I don't think anyone claimed that.

Edit:

I certainly wouldn't.

12-26-2009, 06:47 PM	#2
Angelo86	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed We all know that Scott is good with the words but as for facts he's just like George __________________ Jesus 4ever † Duke Nukem Facebook

12-26-2009, 06:57 PM	#3
Baboy	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed The problem is that having George changing a line of the game code each day still constitues as development. I seriously doubt there are more than 5 internal people working on it, and if they're paying an external team I wonder where's the money from.

12-26-2009, 07:14 PM	#4
Esatche	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed Just go look at the comments regarding this article on shacknews http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=61747 This so called "confirmation" doesn't mean a ***** THING UNTIL ITS GONE GOLD,,,,,no not even that announcement will do anymore the only redeeming factor you have to me and I'm sure many others is when DNF is actually installed and playing on our PCs. 3drealms......... put up DNF or let it die. I'm sure this speaks for a lot of people when I say: PLEASE SHUT THE ** UP and put this bullshit marketing to an end.

12-26-2009, 08:41 PM	#6
duubhglas	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed Oh, damn! I'm a ******* child... I'll dream this night.

12-26-2009, 08:46 PM	#7
SpinX	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed Scott miller also responded in the comments on all the hate towards duke and 3drealms "The hate here is deep. But completely understandable." __________________ waiting for: Elite sequel, Half life 3, Diablo3, DNF Enough is enough! I've had it with these motherxxxxxx delays on this motherxxxxxx game :) http://www.youtube.com/user/ftbfelix

12-26-2009, 09:52 PM	#11
EvanQuinn	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed woohoo! ******* duke nukem on the wii! KNEW THAT SHIT WAS COMING!

12-27-2009, 12:21 AM	#13
dark_angel	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed It is over. A company without a vision worth nothing. I can't see how we can anymore believe anything Scott or GB say. If Duke was alive, he would had committed suicide by now. 12 Years in development, this is simply INSANE. __________________ Duke Nukem Forever - Crysis - Castle Wolfenstein - Bioshock - CMR : Dirt www.Duke4.net - The ultimate source for 3DRealms next-gen game - DNF " Life rewards no death for immortals " - dark_angel

12-27-2009, 12:54 AM	#14
DerricktheW	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed Please bring forth more 3rd person Duke games like Zero Hour. Please please PLEASE

12-27-2009, 01:45 AM	#15
Baboy	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed http://kotaku.com/5434679/3d-realms-...next-few-years Kotaku has a news about the Shacknews article. Last line is for truth: "Sorry, but at this point, games or GTFO."

12-27-2009, 02:18 AM	#16
terrannova	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed That's fantastic news thank you for this! Duke Nukem Forever will one day be on the store shelf and when that day comes I will jump for joy and run through the streets proclaiming the good news!

12-27-2009, 04:02 AM	#17
Glassagate	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed An XBLA port of DN MP would be an instant buy. I don't have an iPhone, and don't think that I'd get one just for Duke. Now, if it were ported to the Zune, or to XBLA, then I'd buy it for sure. Last edited by Glassagate; 12-27-2009 at 04:06 AM.

12-27-2009, 04:04 AM	#18
Duke's New Chainsaw	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed Cool. __________________ The Great Communicator!

12-27-2009, 04:04 AM	#19
Steve	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed Yeah Instant buy for me too!

12-27-2009, 04:58 AM	#21
Rider	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed "Groovy!" __________________ Duke4.net - Duke's OTHER home. HeadbangersFM - The station that keeps your head banging! ------------- She's pretty, not "damn-she's-making-my-noodle-dance-samba"-pretty, but still very pretty... - Micki!

12-27-2009, 05:51 AM	#22
KaiserSoze	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed Haters are gonna hate. I'm still on board(feeling like Nathan Drake at the beginning of Uncharted 2 on board......) I hereby proclaim that 2010 will be the year Duke Nukem Forever will return to the public eye with a vengeance!!

12-27-2009, 06:09 AM	#25
Razorback	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed Next Few Years... Yeah sure! Few, what does GB know about a few years? He must think in light years? I think GB is following the path of his old Daikatana friend Ramero <?>. Going into the cell phone gaming business, WHOOPIE!!!

12-27-2009, 06:16 AM	#27
Razorback	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed Not me, I am not expecting anything from GB in the future. But before he can make somebody his bitch, first he needs to make a game. Anyway it looks like he has a new batch of bitches like you Baboy.

12-27-2009, 08:43 AM	#34
Kray	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed Continued development = looking for new publishers to leech off of while wasting more time doing nothing of significant. __________________ http://card.mygamercard.net/Rhaxx.png

12-27-2009, 09:11 AM	#37
SpinX	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed no numerous duke games please... just a sequel to duke 3D in FPS form... I just want a story driven duke FPS called duke nukem forever... with all their money and bussiness models, why can't they just make it... __________________ waiting for: Elite sequel, Half life 3, Diablo3, DNF Enough is enough! I've had it with these motherxxxxxx delays on this motherxxxxxx game :) http://www.youtube.com/user/ftbfelix

12-27-2009, 09:57 AM	#39
X-Vector	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed Is Duke Nukem magical? __________________ We're on an express elevator to hell... going clown. HELLO, MY FRIEND - freindship make a happiness double times and divide sadness half and make us remove our unhappiness. Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb

12-27-2009, 09:58 AM	#40
Kristian Joensen	Re: Continued Development of DNF Confirmed I don't think anyone claimed that. Edit: I certainly wouldn't. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)