Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta?

Ruger · 10-16-2003, 03:35 PM

I was enjoying max payne 2, running around, shooting thugs when I noticed that the shells seemed to be flying out of the beretta without the slide moving.

This can't be right I'm thinkin. The slides moved in the first game. The slides even move for the desert eagle in mp2, just not the beretta.

So how about it remedy. Is this an error specific to my machine or did you leave this feature out?

Mongorian · 10-16-2003, 04:21 PM

None of the slides move for me.

Yatta · 10-16-2003, 04:55 PM

I don't see this problem. It may be a graphic error from your machine.

Ruger · 10-16-2003, 05:03 PM

I figured it might be some sort of error, which is why I originally posted this topic in the technical support forum, but someone apparently decided to move my post from there to here.

Go figure.

I hope there is a simple answer to this, and I hope that answer is not "buy a new video card" (I've got a GForce4 Ti 4200)

RollingBrass · 10-16-2003, 05:56 PM

Happens with me, too (Geforce 4 4600 Ti). Desert Eagle slide moves, but not the Beretta. I'll bet it's an LOD thing or something. There's probably a workaround, but I wager to see it without any tweakage we'd need better video cards. Just a guess, though.

KillJoy · 10-16-2003, 08:12 PM

It doesn't move on mine either, I got an ATi 9800 Pro

10-16-2003, 08:27 PM

Same here is there a mod availanle to fix it or is a error remedy did fix of just didnt notice?

=Could it be a vid prob cause i got a GeForce4 4200 Go

Mongorian · 10-16-2003, 09:46 PM

hmm, I have a geforce 4 ti 4600. Maybe its something with this line of cards? I don't really know how the sliders work, what that relies on, i'd figure its a property of the model, which would make it odd that it doesn't work.

MrUniq · 10-16-2003, 09:54 PM

If it doesn't move it's the animation. I guess if it's wanted enough remedy will patch that.

Ruger · 10-16-2003, 11:09 PM

I really really want the slides to work properly as the berettas are my most used weapons.

Come on remedy, make with the love before I start crying.

FullMetalJacket · 10-17-2003, 08:28 AM

Yeah...

Every other gun has an official name like "Striker shotgun," "Dragunov," "Ingram," "Kalashnikov," "Desert Eagle," "M4 Carbine," .... etc.

So why is the Beretta just called a "9mm pistol"? They didn't call the MP5 the "9mm submachine gun" so....

RollingBrass · 10-17-2003, 10:55 AM

Quote:

If it doesn't move it's the animation. I guess if it's wanted enough remedy will patch that.

I don't think it's an animation problem. There is a screenshot of Max firing the Beretta at the camera with the slide pushed back.

Jokke_r · 10-17-2003, 11:20 AM

are you sure you have object detail on high or sumthn.

Ruger · 10-17-2003, 01:24 PM

My settings:

Joe Siegler · 10-17-2003, 02:15 PM

Green!

My eyes! The goggles do nothing!

Mongorian · 10-17-2003, 04:00 PM

Way to help out, joe

I saw that you replied and assumed you knew what was going on

oh, and

this game rocks!

Ruger · 10-17-2003, 05:25 PM

Joe, seeing as this seems to be a specific technical problem, wouldn't there be a better chance of it being resolved if it was moved back to the mp2 technical support forum (assuming you were the one who moved it to general in the first place)?

Edit: Thanks for moving it back. Now I hope remedy has some idea how to fix this problem.

Havikar · 10-17-2003, 06:10 PM

I also have the same problem.

Radeon 9800 and lastest drivers, I have everything maxed out to in the start up menu. Everything works fine just not the beretta.

RollingBrass · 10-17-2003, 09:01 PM

Mirrors and Pixel Shaders don't seem to work either. Everything checked in Options. P4 3ghz, 768MB RAM, Geforce4 4600 Ti. Is it the card?

Kasterix · 10-17-2003, 10:23 PM

As far as I know the mirrors and pixel shaders only work on DX9 capable hardware...

MrUniq · 10-18-2003, 10:54 AM

pixel shader 1.4 is used if u don't have dx9 card...the difference is minimal though.

DelitaHex · 10-20-2003, 04:30 PM

I know it's not a big deal, but please, someone from remedy answer this? was it taken out for some reason? or is there a way to fix it?

Ruger · 10-21-2003, 02:14 PM

Yeah, I would like an official answer too, though I can respect that the problem is not as urgent as those unfortunate souls on this board who can't get the game to work at all.

The only thing I can think of that might help speed up the process is using the technical support tool found in the Max Payne 2 directory to send information on the problem directly to Remedy, as that automatically puts the relevant system specs and such in front of them.

So anyone who's got this problem, use the technical support tool, explain that the beretta's slide is not moving, give your e-mail address, and see if Remedy will cough up the answer or at least make an appearance on this thread if enough people have the same error.

Twiddlenem · 10-23-2003, 08:07 PM

I just tried it. Doesn't work for me either. GeForce3 Ti200 here.

MarkusRMD · 10-24-2003, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Every other gun has an official name like "Striker Shotgun," "Dragunov," "Ingram," "Kalashnikov," "Desert Eagle," "M4 Carbine," .... etc.

So why is the Beretta just called a "9mm pistol"? They didn't call the MP5 the "9mm submachine gun" so....

Beretta is trademarked. MP5, Ingram, Dragunov, Kalashnikov and M4 arent.

Desert Eagle, even though a trademark, promotes their name within games and movies. They even mention Max Payne 1 as a game that has DE. Thus we could use it.

Games don't yet enjoy the same 1st amendment rights as movies do. Welcome to America...

RollingBrass · 10-24-2003, 01:55 AM

But what about the Beretta slides?

LiquiD · 10-24-2003, 06:57 AM

Why did you Mr Remedy dude, not answer the guy who created the thread but you answer the person who posted in the thread instead?

The question is:

Does the Slide on the Beretta move? Yes or No? Explain...

10-24-2003, 07:43 AM

No Beretta Slide moving here

Amd Xp Athlon 1800+
896 mb DRR Ram Pc 2100
Sapphire Radeon 9600 Pro 128 mb
Win Xp Pro Sp1
DirectX 9.0b

Explain.......

zombo · 10-24-2003, 07:45 AM

I've seen a few screens with the "beretta's" slide coked back. It dosent work on my 4200, I would laugh so hard if the beretta slide is dx9 compatable cards only. But seriously, you guys at Remedy, are you trying to resolvee this? Because beretta is one of my (probabl along with alot of the other mp2'ers) favorite guns to use. I really hope this is fixed

10-24-2003, 07:55 AM

Look what i found..............just what zombo said.

Twiddlenem · 10-24-2003, 09:08 AM

That looks like an early shot. For one thing, he doesn't have his NYPD badge. Maybe they messed it up during development and didn't notice by the time they put the game out.

Burning Fish · 10-24-2003, 09:24 AM

I got a geforce 2 mx 400; no sliding beretta. It really isn't build in the game, question is why and will it be solved through a patch or something? Remedy, I know you guys are reading this, please answer!!!

SamiV · 10-24-2003, 09:41 AM

Whistles innocently... I haven't verified what is going on here, but this does sound like I messed up something when updating the weapons the last time into the game...

Patching this in content isn't exactly trivial (but doable surely), but I think this would be best resolved if I just inform modders how to get the beretta slide moving... It's not exactly a showstopper bug, but still rather embarassing on my behalf... :-P

SamiV.

10-24-2003, 09:44 AM

Max Payne 2 mod: "The beretta with a working slide"

Ruger · 10-24-2003, 11:29 AM

Remedy speaks at last. Thanks for dropping by.

So, uh, Yatta, would you be so kind as to actually take and then post a screenshot of the slide moving on the beretta so we can discover if it is a computer specific thing? I really have a hard time believing Remedy just never noticed the beretta was messed up, but that seems to be what SamiV is thinking.

Ruger · 10-24-2003, 05:14 PM

Oh yeah, and while I'm thinking of it...

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAKE IT A PATCH THAT FIXES THIS REMEDY!!! I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO RUN A MOD EVERY TIME I WANT THE GUNS TO WORK PROPERLY!

I feel better now. Sorry for the outburst.

Twiddlenem · 10-24-2003, 06:00 PM

Yeah, I hope it can be an official patch. It seems to affect EVERYONE. I don't think it has anything to do with our video cards.

Twiddlenem · 10-24-2003, 07:32 PM

Remedy, this is just a 'shot' (hehe) in the dark but I think I found what's wrong.

The Desert Eagle slides fine so I checked out the animation files (the .kf2 files) The 'shoot' animation file is larger than the default 'pose' one. So then I looked at the Beretta folder. The 'shoot' and 'pose' files are exactly the same size. So it looks like the default 'pose' file accidentally got copied and used as the 'shoot' animation.

Hope this helps.

PetriRMD · 10-27-2003, 07:40 AM

Quote:

The 'shoot' and 'pose' files are exactly the same size. So it looks like the default 'pose' file accidentally got copied and used as the 'shoot' animation.

Yeah, looks like we just messed up.

Casualties of the crunch and all that.

MrUniq · 10-27-2003, 07:44 PM

post beta testing for the xbox and playstation owners....lol...

10-16-2003, 08:27 PM	#7
2pac2 Guest	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta? Same here is there a mod availanle to fix it or is a error remedy did fix of just didnt notice? =Could it be a vid prob cause i got a GeForce4 4200 Go

10-17-2003, 02:15 PM	#15
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta Green! My eyes! The goggles do nothing! __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

10-24-2003, 07:43 AM	#28
Guest Guest	Re: Is it just me, or is the beretta the only gun not named? No Beretta Slide moving here Amd Xp Athlon 1800+ 896 mb DRR Ram Pc 2100 Sapphire Radeon 9600 Pro 128 mb Win Xp Pro Sp1 DirectX 9.0b Explain.......

10-24-2003, 09:41 AM	#33
SamiV Remedy Staff	Re: Is it just me, or is the beretta the only gun not named? Whistles innocently... I haven't verified what is going on here, but this does sound like I messed up something when updating the weapons the last time into the game... Patching this in content isn't exactly trivial (but doable surely), but I think this would be best resolved if I just inform modders how to get the beretta slide moving... It's not exactly a showstopper bug, but still rather embarassing on my behalf... :-P SamiV.

10-24-2003, 09:44 AM	#34
Guest Guest	Re: Is it just me, or is the beretta the only gun not named? Max Payne 2 mod: "The beretta with a working slide"

10-16-2003, 03:35 PM	#1
Ruger	Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta? I was enjoying max payne 2, running around, shooting thugs when I noticed that the shells seemed to be flying out of the beretta without the slide moving. This can't be right I'm thinkin. The slides moved in the first game. The slides even move for the desert eagle in mp2, just not the beretta. So how about it remedy. Is this an error specific to my machine or did you leave this feature out? __________________ "It's like a bad relationship where your girlfriend keeps telling you it'll get better, and sure things are fine for a while, but before you know it there she is again pawning your stuff for meth and trying to suffocate you with a pillow as you sleep." - Hudson

10-16-2003, 04:21 PM	#2
Mongorian	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta? None of the slides move for me.

10-16-2003, 04:55 PM	#3
Yatta	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta? I don't see this problem. It may be a graphic error from your machine. __________________ Visit Duke4.net - The largest Duke Nukem fan community on the net!

10-16-2003, 05:03 PM	#4
Ruger	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta I figured it might be some sort of error, which is why I originally posted this topic in the technical support forum, but someone apparently decided to move my post from there to here. Go figure. I hope there is a simple answer to this, and I hope that answer is not "buy a new video card" (I've got a GForce4 Ti 4200) __________________ "It's like a bad relationship where your girlfriend keeps telling you it'll get better, and sure things are fine for a while, but before you know it there she is again pawning your stuff for meth and trying to suffocate you with a pillow as you sleep." - Hudson

10-16-2003, 05:56 PM	#5
RollingBrass	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta Happens with me, too (Geforce 4 4600 Ti). Desert Eagle slide moves, but not the Beretta. I'll bet it's an LOD thing or something. There's probably a workaround, but I wager to see it without any tweakage we'd need better video cards. Just a guess, though.

10-16-2003, 08:12 PM	#6
KillJoy	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta It doesn't move on mine either, I got an ATi 9800 Pro __________________ "I wish i had your skill, Killjoy." - Mongorian I'm Merc #3 in the Katana 2 Mod

10-16-2003, 09:46 PM	#8
Mongorian	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta? hmm, I have a geforce 4 ti 4600. Maybe its something with this line of cards? I don't really know how the sliders work, what that relies on, i'd figure its a property of the model, which would make it odd that it doesn't work.

10-16-2003, 09:54 PM	#9
MrUniq	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta? If it doesn't move it's the animation. I guess if it's wanted enough remedy will patch that.

10-16-2003, 11:09 PM	#10
Ruger	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta I really really want the slides to work properly as the berettas are my most used weapons. Come on remedy, make with the love before I start crying. __________________ "It's like a bad relationship where your girlfriend keeps telling you it'll get better, and sure things are fine for a while, but before you know it there she is again pawning your stuff for meth and trying to suffocate you with a pillow as you sleep." - Hudson

10-17-2003, 08:28 AM	#11
FullMetalJacket	Re: Is it just me, or is the beretta the only gun not named? Yeah... Every other gun has an official name like "Striker shotgun," "Dragunov," "Ingram," "Kalashnikov," "Desert Eagle," "M4 Carbine," .... etc. So why is the Beretta just called a "9mm pistol"? They didn't call the MP5 the "9mm submachine gun" so.... __________________ AIM screenname: MGamer16 "My father would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy; the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament."

10-17-2003, 11:20 AM	#13
Jokke_r	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta? are you sure you have object detail on high or sumthn. __________________ I am Jack's smirking revenge.

10-17-2003, 04:00 PM	#16
Mongorian	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta Way to help out, joe I saw that you replied and assumed you knew what was going on oh, and this game rocks!

10-17-2003, 05:25 PM	#17
Ruger	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta Joe, seeing as this seems to be a specific technical problem, wouldn't there be a better chance of it being resolved if it was moved back to the mp2 technical support forum (assuming you were the one who moved it to general in the first place)? Edit: Thanks for moving it back. Now I hope remedy has some idea how to fix this problem. __________________ "It's like a bad relationship where your girlfriend keeps telling you it'll get better, and sure things are fine for a while, but before you know it there she is again pawning your stuff for meth and trying to suffocate you with a pillow as you sleep." - Hudson

10-17-2003, 06:10 PM	#18
Havikar	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta I also have the same problem. Radeon 9800 and lastest drivers, I have everything maxed out to in the start up menu. Everything works fine just not the beretta.

10-17-2003, 09:01 PM	#19
RollingBrass	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta Mirrors and Pixel Shaders don't seem to work either. Everything checked in Options. P4 3ghz, 768MB RAM, Geforce4 4600 Ti. Is it the card?

10-17-2003, 10:23 PM	#20
Kasterix	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta As far as I know the mirrors and pixel shaders only work on DX9 capable hardware...

10-18-2003, 10:54 AM	#21
MrUniq	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta pixel shader 1.4 is used if u don't have dx9 card...the difference is minimal though.

10-20-2003, 04:30 PM	#22
DelitaHex	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta? I know it's not a big deal, but please, someone from remedy answer this? was it taken out for some reason? or is there a way to fix it?

10-21-2003, 02:14 PM	#23
Ruger	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta Yeah, I would like an official answer too, though I can respect that the problem is not as urgent as those unfortunate souls on this board who can't get the game to work at all. The only thing I can think of that might help speed up the process is using the technical support tool found in the Max Payne 2 directory to send information on the problem directly to Remedy, as that automatically puts the relevant system specs and such in front of them. So anyone who's got this problem, use the technical support tool, explain that the beretta's slide is not moving, give your e-mail address, and see if Remedy will cough up the answer or at least make an appearance on this thread if enough people have the same error. __________________ "It's like a bad relationship where your girlfriend keeps telling you it'll get better, and sure things are fine for a while, but before you know it there she is again pawning your stuff for meth and trying to suffocate you with a pillow as you sleep." - Hudson

10-23-2003, 08:07 PM	#24
Twiddlenem	Re: Is it just me, or is the slide not moving on the beretta I just tried it. Doesn't work for me either. GeForce3 Ti200 here.

10-24-2003, 01:55 AM	#26
RollingBrass	Re: Is it just me, or is the beretta the only gun not named? But what about the Beretta slides?

10-24-2003, 06:57 AM	#27
LiquiD	Re: Is it just me, or is the beretta the only gun not named? Why did you Mr Remedy dude, not answer the guy who created the thread but you answer the person who posted in the thread instead? The question is: Does the Slide on the Beretta move? Yes or No? Explain... __________________ Follow Your Dreams... Intel 3.4Ghz Geil 3Gb Twinx Ram Nvidia 7800 GS Abit IC7-MAX3 SATA RAID STRIPING 480GB on a 24" LCD. Check out www.myspace.com/LiquidAces & www.myspace.com/LiquidAces2

10-24-2003, 07:45 AM	#29
zombo	Re: Is it just me, or is the beretta the only gun not named? I've seen a few screens with the "beretta's" slide coked back. It dosent work on my 4200, I would laugh so hard if the beretta slide is dx9 compatable cards only. But seriously, you guys at Remedy, are you trying to resolvee this? Because beretta is one of my (probabl along with alot of the other mp2'ers) favorite guns to use. I really hope this is fixed

10-24-2003, 09:08 AM	#31
Twiddlenem	Re: Is it just me, or is the beretta the only gun not named? That looks like an early shot. For one thing, he doesn't have his NYPD badge. Maybe they messed it up during development and didn't notice by the time they put the game out.

10-24-2003, 09:24 AM	#32
Burning Fish	Re: Is it just me, or is the beretta the only gun not named? I got a geforce 2 mx 400; no sliding beretta. It really isn't build in the game, question is why and will it be solved through a patch or something? Remedy, I know you guys are reading this, please answer!!! __________________ "Careful with that gun, lady."

10-24-2003, 11:29 AM	#35
Ruger	Re: Is it just me, or is the beretta the only gun not named? Remedy speaks at last. Thanks for dropping by. So, uh, Yatta, would you be so kind as to actually take and then post a screenshot of the slide moving on the beretta so we can discover if it is a computer specific thing? I really have a hard time believing Remedy just never noticed the beretta was messed up, but that seems to be what SamiV is thinking. __________________ "It's like a bad relationship where your girlfriend keeps telling you it'll get better, and sure things are fine for a while, but before you know it there she is again pawning your stuff for meth and trying to suffocate you with a pillow as you sleep." - Hudson

10-24-2003, 05:14 PM	#36
Ruger	Re: Is it just me, or is the beretta the only gun not named? Oh yeah, and while I'm thinking of it... FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAKE IT A PATCH THAT FIXES THIS REMEDY!!! I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO RUN A MOD EVERY TIME I WANT THE GUNS TO WORK PROPERLY! I feel better now. Sorry for the outburst. __________________ "It's like a bad relationship where your girlfriend keeps telling you it'll get better, and sure things are fine for a while, but before you know it there she is again pawning your stuff for meth and trying to suffocate you with a pillow as you sleep." - Hudson

10-24-2003, 06:00 PM	#37
Twiddlenem	Re: Is it just me, or is the beretta the only gun not named? Yeah, I hope it can be an official patch. It seems to affect EVERYONE. I don't think it has anything to do with our video cards.

10-24-2003, 07:32 PM	#38
Twiddlenem	Re: Is it just me, or is the beretta the only gun not named? Remedy, this is just a 'shot' (hehe) in the dark but I think I found what's wrong. The Desert Eagle slides fine so I checked out the animation files (the .kf2 files) The 'shoot' animation file is larger than the default 'pose' one. So then I looked at the Beretta folder. The 'shoot' and 'pose' files are exactly the same size. So it looks like the default 'pose' file accidentally got copied and used as the 'shoot' animation. Hope this helps.

10-27-2003, 07:44 PM	#40
MrUniq	Re: Is it just me, or is the beretta the only gun not named? post beta testing for the xbox and playstation owners....lol...