Stargate Mod

The Commander · 03-31-2008, 04:30 PM

As the title says. Been in production for a few months now. A few of you allready know about it.

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peanut butter jelly · 03-31-2008, 04:51 PM

That looks sick but wtf is with the counterstrike source hands and guns,

Mr.Fibbles · 03-31-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by peanut butter jelly

That looks sick but wtf is with the counterstrike source hands and guns,

WTF is up with your comments on "counterstrike source hands and guns"?
The P90 is in Stargate (if you have seen the show, you would realize this). They are a special unit in the US Air Force, of course they are going to have real guns that are used in the US Armed Forces.

Looks nice. When you asked about def code and I saw the "stargate" folder, I wanted to ask where that mod was. Now I know.

The Commander · 03-31-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by peanut butter jelly

That looks sick but wtf is with the counterstrike source hands and guns,

WTF is up with almost everyone asuming that the guns are CS:S ones? Like Mr Fibbles said, They use these in SG and they have gloves on.

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Originally Posted by Mr.Fibbles

Looks nice. When you asked about def code and I saw the "stargate" folder, I wanted to ask where that mod was. Now I know.

heh, the thread in the Eduke32 one. lol thought someone might see it.

Jblade · 03-31-2008, 05:11 PM

I'm pretty sure he means "why are you using the CS:S P90 model" and not why are you using the actual P90.

Sang · 03-31-2008, 05:16 PM

First shot is mediocre at best, the other 2 shots are just empty areas with some models in them. It's gonna take more than that.

Hellbound · 03-31-2008, 05:26 PM

Why the hell you're using left handed setup? :>
Besides that - it looks good (but wtf with wrong placed muzzleflash)

Mr.Fibbles · 03-31-2008, 05:26 PM

I highly doubt that EDuke32 can properly handle the amount of polygons in CS:S models. It would also be rather stupid to try to port them since they are different in most every way from MD3. It would be easier to make your own from scratch. . .
I'll admit that the scenes are empty, but the idea that there will be a Stargate mod is nice. Just assume that it is in the early stages of development.
I like the show and I have been waiting for something new to keep me entertained while I wait. . .

The Commander · 03-31-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jblade

I'm pretty sure he means "why are you using the CS:S P90 model" and not why are you using the actual P90.

I aint using the CS:S P90 model. I can asure you of that.

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Originally Posted by Sang

First shot is mediocre at best, the other 2 shots are just empty areas with some models in them. It's gonna take more than that.

I had been having private convo's and we were betting if it would be you or Geoff who would say that first. And what exactly is ment to be in a shot these days? If there wasnt models or sectors or anything you just named basicly it would be black. If your expecting a game/mod like DNF, Doom ect your in the wrong thread dude. I wont be wasting time on trying to get the shading detail of maps down to the bare militmeter when your going to have Replicators trying to crawl up your ass. Wheres your mod by the way?

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Originally Posted by Hellbound

Why the hell you're using left handed setup? :>
Besides that - it looks good (but wtf with wrong placed muzzleflash)

Cos this guy is left handed. Huh? Theres no muzleflashes in the pics?

DeeperThought · 03-31-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Commander

Cos this guy is left handed. Huh? Theres no muzleflashes in the pics?

Hellbound was referring to the muzzleflashes in your movie. You didn't change the muzzleflash positioning from where it is in the Duke Plus code that you're using for the gun.

The Commander · 03-31-2008, 06:03 PM

Oh yes that, My bad. I dont really want to edit any of your duke plus base code till last incase you decide to release another version and then I would have to re-edit it again.

diehard52 · 03-31-2008, 07:07 PM

looks promising

William Gee · 03-31-2008, 10:45 PM

Replicators! I hope they can jump at you.

Sang · 04-01-2008, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Commander

I had been having private convo's and we were betting if it would be you or Geoff who would say that first. And what exactly is ment to be in a shot these days? If there wasnt models or sectors or anything you just named basicly it would be black. If your expecting a game/mod like DNF, Doom ect your in the wrong thread dude. I wont be wasting time on trying to get the shading detail of maps down to the bare militmeter when your going to have Replicators trying to crawl up your ass. Wheres your mod by the way?

Let's not be a dramaqueen, okay? All you've got in your shot are empty rooms with some sprites in them. Where's the shading and detail?

I'm not asking for DNF-like things here dude. You're a mapper, you should know what I mean.

The Commander · 04-01-2008, 08:03 AM

I wont be spending a ton of time detailing maps with a ton of shading. Only expect the basics here. This is going more for the action.

Sang · 04-01-2008, 08:10 AM

This seems to be the problem with many Build nublets - As soon as you mention that it needs more detail and shading, they think they have to make it like Bob Averill's maps. Not at all.

My maps are doing just fine btw.

Still needs some work, though :/

The Commander · 04-01-2008, 08:25 AM

Yes the maps will have shading ect. But I wont be going in to masive detail.

Oh, So you do map then? Theres some sort of glitch in the 2nd shot on the bottom right corner. what is that?

Sang · 04-01-2008, 08:27 AM

Woah! Thanks for bringing that to my attention, hadn't even noticed that. Will look into it, though I wouldn't be surprised if it were a visual bug due to the whole Polymost thing.

diehard52 · 04-01-2008, 08:30 AM

No offence Sang but those pics you posted of your map aren't anything to write home about either and also have very little shading or anything going on...

Sang · 04-01-2008, 08:35 AM

I know that my shots are basic as well, but even if I say so myself I'd still say they look better than The Commander's shots.

But that's exactly my point - The Commander can make his mod look better by having a little more detail and shading.

diehard52 · 04-01-2008, 08:42 AM

Oh I agree a little shading and a little detail can go a long way.... its not necessary to go all out putting in as much detail as possible.

Sang · 04-01-2008, 08:58 AM

Exactly.

The Commander · 04-01-2008, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sang

Woah! Thanks for bringing that to my attention, hadn't even noticed that. Will look into it, though I wouldn't be surprised if it were a visual bug due to the whole Polymost thing.

I dunno, It kinda looks a little like a map/sector glitch. Hope it isnt cos they suck. Ive allready had to deal with one.

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Originally Posted by diehard52

No offence Sang but those pics you posted of your map aren't anything to write home about either and also have very little shading or anything going on...

I was going to say that but I didnt want to start a flame war, Please keep this on topic... I dont want it derailed.

Most of them shots are allready outdated. You must rember it has WIP posted on them,

The Mod will start with the Replicators attacking the SGC. (What again? Who let them in this time! I thought they were destroyed?) thats a surprise waiting to be discoverd.

diehard52 · 04-01-2008, 11:21 AM

You doing this all by yourself?

The Commander · 04-01-2008, 11:24 AM

Other than using Duke Plus as a base and ive had a little help from someone I wont name yet to convert me a couple models, yeah Ive done all this so far on my own...

Jblade · 04-01-2008, 12:02 PM

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I had been having private convo's and we were betting if it would be you or Geoff who would say that first. And what exactly is ment to be in a shot these days? If there wasnt models or sectors or anything you just named basicly it would be black. If your expecting a game/mod like DNF, Doom ect your in the wrong thread dude. I wont be wasting time on trying to get the shading detail of maps down to the bare militmeter when your going to have Replicators trying to crawl up your ass. Wheres your mod by the way?

See this? This reaction to criticism is just pathetic.

The Commander · 04-01-2008, 12:11 PM

Oh for godness sakes James... Sang is the worst hypocrite there is and we all know it and you allways back him up. I thought I said drop this subject but people dont listen.

Jblade · 04-01-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Commander

Oh for godness sakes James... Sang is the worst hypocrite there is and we all know it and you allways back him up. I thought I said drop this subject but people dont listen.

No actually you are since Sang doesn't get all shitty when people criticise his work unlike your rant which I guess you already had lined up your head, waiting for either of them to post.

His criticism is just and Highwire back at AMC also made the same criticism so it's not just him blowing steam. Don't respond to his postname but what he said in his post.

Geoffrey · 04-01-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Commander

you or Geoff

*pant pant* what'd I miss?

The Commander · 04-01-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoffrey

*pant pant* what'd I miss?

lol, never mind. Was just a little game/bet I had going with someone from AMC

Yeah I did have it lined up in my head. But wasnt expecting him to come to 3DR to say it. Besides we have allready goten over it and I have allready pointed out a problem in his map but yet you are deciding to carry thing flame bait on.

Mikko Sandt · 04-01-2008, 12:45 PM

You're not gonna leave them like that, as in, fully lit?

Steve · 04-01-2008, 12:49 PM

This thread wants me to start mapping again. Shame I lost my latest map

Jblade · 04-01-2008, 12:50 PM

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Besides we have allready goten over it and I have allready pointed out a problem in his map but yet you are deciding to carry thing flame bait on.

You don't get it - pointing out a problem in his map doesn't solve shit and it's just petty. "Hey your stuff has flaws too so I don't need to improve!"

Sang · 04-01-2008, 12:54 PM

I believe the main criticism that some people might have towards this mod has already been stated, now it's up to The Commander to do with it what he will. Whether he will actually improve upon his mod or make up a ton of excuses is up to him.

Commando Nukem · 04-01-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jblade

You don't get it - pointing out a problem in his map doesn't solve shit and it's just petty. "Hey your stuff has flaws too so I don't need to improve!"

Gonna have to agree with Jblade on this one Commander. Dont get me wrong though theres a lot of promise here, just gotta find your point of source light outside and add in some nice shading. It could go a long way.

EDIT: Futhermore, after looking at those models in action its starting to get really clear to me that some folks around here seem to loves them some CS weaponary. Same can be said for several other mods around here, wont knock ya for that though as this has been a tradition of Duke mods for years and years. What works, works.

The Commander · 04-01-2008, 01:08 PM

Im just totaly ignoring James and Sang now cos they wont drop it,

I just guess people cant read on the pic's that they say, W.I.P. (Stands for WORK IN PROGRESS, Dont like it dont post in this thread)

Any way Commando Nukem, They use these weapons in Stargate... I cant exactly go using weapons they dont or it wont have that Stargate feel to it. And im sure they didnt have Staff weapons in CS...

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Originally Posted by Steve

This thread wants me to start mapping again. Shame I lost my latest map

What was your map Steve?

Commando Nukem · 04-01-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Commander

Im just totaly ignoring James and Sang now cos they wont drop it,

I just guess people cant read on the pic's that they say, W.I.P. (Stands for WORK IN PROGRESS, Dont like it dont post in this thread)

Any way Commando Nukem, They use these weapons in Stargate... I cant exactly go using weapons they dont or it wont have that Stargate feel to it. And im sure they didnt have Staff weapons in CS...

They do bring a point worth considering to the table is all. You've got alot of good models, its just the need for shading is very important (With the detail here, you've got a great base, you just need a little bit more in the way of mood.

)

I doubt anyone is riding you intentionally. Just pointing out where we think improvements can be applied, and the particular areas thereof.

You're missing me by a mile.

The mesh for the glock and the P90 look exactly like user created CS weapon skins, including the hands. Right down to the edges on some bits. I know they use the weapons in the series, thats not what anyone here was talking about. We're talking the mesh itself here. Just seems to be a common practice around here.

On another note, the Gate, staff, and the Death Glider look really good.

The Commander · 04-01-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Commando Nukem

They do bring a point worth considering to the table is all. You've got alot of good models, its just the need for shading is very important (With the detail here, you've got a great base, you just need a little bit more in the way of mood.

)

I doubt anyone is riding you intentionally. Just pointing out where we think improvements can be applied, and the particular areas thereof.

You're missing me by a mile.

The mesh for the glock and the P90 look exactly like user created CS weapon skins, including the hands. Right down to the edges on some bits. I know they use the weapons in the series, thats not what anyone here was talking about. We're talking the mesh itself here. Just seems to be a common practice around here.

On another note, the Gate, staff, and the Death Glider look really good.

I never said that I wasnt coming to shade the map. I allways leaving shading ect till last. And im not talking about them any more in this thread.

They are plenty more nice models coming. I havent even made my way to space yet (Daedalus ect)

This will hopefully be a marvill and not a washout.

heh

I just cant come up with a decent title name, Stargate Mod sounds to plain...

Jblade · 04-01-2008, 01:37 PM

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(Stands for WORK IN PROGRESS, Dont like it dont post in this thread)

Okay so I know you're gonna not listen to me anymore but you always fall back on this whenever people criticise your work. Did you post these screens expecting everyone to stand in a line and pat you on the back or something?

peanut butter jelly · 04-01-2008, 02:26 PM

HOLY CRAP, I just made a comment ok? I shouldn't have said wtf just what and i dont watch the show its gay.

03-31-2008, 04:51 PM	#2
peanut butter jelly	Re: Stargate Mod That looks sick but wtf is with the counterstrike source hands and guns, __________________ It's Peanut butter jelly time!!! my new hrp mod, total of 21 weapons 40 pickups and many new enemies. Click here or anywhere on the text.

03-31-2008, 05:11 PM	#5
Jblade	Re: Stargate Mod I'm pretty sure he means "why are you using the CS:S P90 model" and not why are you using the actual P90.

03-31-2008, 05:16 PM	#6
Sang	Re: Stargate Mod First shot is mediocre at best, the other 2 shots are just empty areas with some models in them. It's gonna take more than that. __________________ traB pu kcip

03-31-2008, 05:26 PM	#7
Hellbound	Re: Stargate Mod Why the hell you're using left handed setup? :> Besides that - it looks good (but wtf with wrong placed muzzleflash)

03-31-2008, 05:26 PM	#8
Mr.Fibbles	Re: Stargate Mod I highly doubt that EDuke32 can properly handle the amount of polygons in CS:S models. It would also be rather stupid to try to port them since they are different in most every way from MD3. It would be easier to make your own from scratch. . . I'll admit that the scenes are empty, but the idea that there will be a Stargate mod is nice. Just assume that it is in the early stages of development. I like the show and I have been waiting for something new to keep me entertained while I wait. . . __________________ http://thaunandshad.com

03-31-2008, 06:03 PM	#11
The Commander	Re: Stargate Mod Oh yes that, My bad. I dont really want to edit any of your duke plus base code till last incase you decide to release another version and then I would have to re-edit it again. __________________ I Know Everything There Is To Know About Anything. Duke Nukem Red Alert SVN Ask Me Anything!

03-31-2008, 07:07 PM	#12
diehard52	Re: Stargate Mod looks promising

03-31-2008, 10:45 PM	#13
William Gee	Re: Stargate Mod Replicators! I hope they can jump at you. __________________ WGRealms.com

04-01-2008, 08:03 AM	#15
The Commander	Re: Stargate Mod I wont be spending a ton of time detailing maps with a ton of shading. Only expect the basics here. This is going more for the action. __________________ I Know Everything There Is To Know About Anything. Duke Nukem Red Alert SVN Ask Me Anything!

04-01-2008, 08:10 AM	#16
Sang	Re: Stargate Mod This seems to be the problem with many Build nublets - As soon as you mention that it needs more detail and shading, they think they have to make it like Bob Averill's maps. Not at all. My maps are doing just fine btw. Still needs some work, though :/ __________________ traB pu kcip

04-01-2008, 08:25 AM	#17
The Commander	Re: Stargate Mod Yes the maps will have shading ect. But I wont be going in to masive detail. Oh, So you do map then? Theres some sort of glitch in the 2nd shot on the bottom right corner. what is that? __________________ I Know Everything There Is To Know About Anything. Duke Nukem Red Alert SVN Ask Me Anything!

04-01-2008, 08:27 AM	#18
Sang	Re: Stargate Mod Woah! Thanks for bringing that to my attention, hadn't even noticed that. Will look into it, though I wouldn't be surprised if it were a visual bug due to the whole Polymost thing. __________________ traB pu kcip

04-01-2008, 08:30 AM	#19
diehard52	Re: Stargate Mod No offence Sang but those pics you posted of your map aren't anything to write home about either and also have very little shading or anything going on...

04-01-2008, 08:35 AM	#20
Sang	Re: Stargate Mod I know that my shots are basic as well, but even if I say so myself I'd still say they look better than The Commander's shots. But that's exactly my point - The Commander can make his mod look better by having a little more detail and shading. __________________ traB pu kcip

04-01-2008, 08:42 AM	#21
diehard52	Re: Stargate Mod Oh I agree a little shading and a little detail can go a long way.... its not necessary to go all out putting in as much detail as possible.

04-01-2008, 08:58 AM	#22
Sang	Re: Stargate Mod Exactly. __________________ traB pu kcip

04-01-2008, 11:21 AM	#24
diehard52	Re: Stargate Mod You doing this all by yourself?

04-01-2008, 11:24 AM	#25
The Commander	Re: Stargate Mod Other than using Duke Plus as a base and ive had a little help from someone I wont name yet to convert me a couple models, yeah Ive done all this so far on my own... __________________ I Know Everything There Is To Know About Anything. Duke Nukem Red Alert SVN Ask Me Anything!

04-01-2008, 12:11 PM	#27
The Commander	Re: Stargate Mod Oh for godness sakes James... Sang is the worst hypocrite there is and we all know it and you allways back him up. I thought I said drop this subject but people dont listen. __________________ I Know Everything There Is To Know About Anything. Duke Nukem Red Alert SVN Ask Me Anything!

04-01-2008, 12:45 PM	#31
Mikko Sandt	Re: Stargate Mod You're not gonna leave them like that, as in, fully lit? __________________ http://www.planetduke.com/msdn/ The West is not simply better than non-Western cultures, it is vastly, fundamentally better. Hellenic culture is the only truly human civilization, the only one for which human reason, not animal stultification, is the ideal. –Greg Swann http://m-sandt.blogspot.com

04-01-2008, 12:49 PM	#32
Steve	Re: Stargate Mod This thread wants me to start mapping again. Shame I lost my latest map

04-01-2008, 12:54 PM	#34
Sang	Re: Stargate Mod I believe the main criticism that some people might have towards this mod has already been stated, now it's up to The Commander to do with it what he will. Whether he will actually improve upon his mod or make up a ton of excuses is up to him. __________________ traB pu kcip

04-01-2008, 02:26 PM	#40
peanut butter jelly	Re: Stargate Mod HOLY CRAP, I just made a comment ok? I shouldn't have said wtf just what and i dont watch the show its gay. __________________ It's Peanut butter jelly time!!! my new hrp mod, total of 21 weapons 40 pickups and many new enemies. Click here or anywhere on the text.