Rumor: Gearbox Reviving Duke Nukem Forever

[Parkar]

Originally Posted by cof_3pc

That's another website that got their info from Kotaku. I want this to be true so bad, but that's the only thing that is still making me skeptical. Kotaku is really the only place actually claiming this. Everyone else just says, "oh lulz kotaku said duke is teh best evar, k?"

Their first news post was the Kotaku story but the one linked to was after he apparently visited some company in the same building to snoop around some. He doesn't say what his sources say though or how reliable they are just that they somehow confirm that something is going on.

[Rapture_Rising]

Originally Posted by cof_3pc

That's another website that got their info from Kotaku. I want this to be true so bad, but that's the only thing that is still making me skeptical. Kotaku is really the only place actually claiming this. Everyone else just says, "oh lulz kotaku said duke is teh best evar, k?"

Kotaku knows who the sources are obviously reliable because they have a professional standards of quality they have to keep, maybe the sources only wanted to contact kotaku because they were the only ones who though they were full of shit.

[Steve]

Originally Posted by Altered Reality

It's still the wrong Ted.

[ferran275]

Hey everyone, I was reading the Kotaku article again last night and I noticed something was off about it, so I emailed Mike directly (the guy who wrote the article) here's what I wrote:

"You said "Gearbox Software president Randy Pitchford declined to comment to Kotaku on the matter, indicating that he may be able to better clarify the situation further at this year's Penny Arcade Expo in Seattle."

What exactly does this mean? That he declined to comment but MENTIONED he would clarify at PAX? or that he just basically declined to comment and SPECULATION says that he 'may' be able to clarify at PAX?

All I'm looking for is, his words, or yours?

Thanks for clearing this up"

Then this morning I got his response:

"He chose not to comment on the specific questions I asked him.

Then he said "Ask me again at PAX (if you're going) and I'll give you a straight answer."

So what does this mean? does this mean that even the editor blew something way out of proportion? we all know how it starts, one person says something not that important at all, but then 15 news sources later and all of a sudden Duke has four heads, the game is coming out next week and the sequel is done too.

I'm now wondering because since Gearbox is in fact working on some big project, which we know they are its on their site, that he (the president) will clarify at PAX that its some OTHER game franchise they're working on, and clear up this whole duke misunderstanding nonsense...

...Just trying to come up with every possible scenario

P.S. I'm amazed I actually got a response out of him

[Altered Reality]

Originally Posted by Steve

MY TED IS BIGGER THAN YOURS!!!

GRRRRR! MEDDLING KIDS!!!

[Rapture_Rising]

This is the probability of what will happen at PAX

33% its DNF, 33% Randy is just using the rumor to hype a sequel/ new IP, 33% its a dirty lie and 1% its Duke Begins.

I know what Damien said that Randy could be using the rumor to hype another game but why give eveyone the impression that they are working on DNF if it were a lie then why dont you just plainly deny it and if they had something to reveal at PAX it would have been a bigger surprise if what they were going to announce was unexpected.

edit... I think the most realistic thing in the rumor is the demo being released this year. 3DR as far as we know are free to release a demo at any time.

[French]

Originally Posted by ferran275

"He chose not to comment on the specific questions I asked him.

Then he said "Ask me again at PAX (if you're going) and I'll give you a straight answer."

I hope the straight answer won't be "no".

[Kristian Joensen]

Seeing the actual comment Randy made to Kotaku increases the probability of this being true IMO. Kotaku said that he "may" "clarify" matters at Pax. Randy actually said that he WILL give a STRAIGHT answer at PAX.

Edit:

I say this because "NO" would also be a straight answers and if Gearbox weren't developing DNF nobody could stop them saying that is the case, however if they are developing it there might well be NDA issues. I mean think about, nobody could stop Gabe Newell from saying that Valve isn't developing it or John Carmack from saying that id isn't developing it.

Edit2:

This is why I much prefer quotes than paraphrases in such articles.

[digimonkey]

Originally Posted by cof_3pc

Yes, every single article that has popped up since the original Kotaku one, has always stated they got their story from Kotaku. So one reason I am skeptic, is because there is really only one source, and it's a rumor.

Originally Posted by cof_3pc

I think.... that you didn't even read my post, because I was stating that all of the other websites got the story from the only website that actually claimed they had a source. .

I think reading comprehension is not your strong suit. Unless you consider Kotaku talking to the president of gearbox a rumor.

[Altered Reality]

why give eveyone the impression that they are working on DNF if it were a lie then why dont you just plainly deny it

Because, whatever you're making, the hype for it is MUCH greater if people believe it's DNF.

[Kristian Joensen]

So you think Randy is a deceiving bastard?

[Rapture_Rising]

Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

So you think Randy is a deceiving bastard?

That is a real possibility.

[JobivanHiob]

uhm okay.

so if Kotaku isn't ******* with us all and isn't even doing this when the author of the article is being e-mailed. Randy will talk about it at PAX!

So Randy speaking at PAX is a fact!
What I think is strange though, why isn't he listed at the oficial PAX schedule then?
Link 1: http://www.paxsite.com/paxprime/schedule.php
Link 2: http://www.paxsite.com/paxprime/theatreschedule.pdf

[Baboy]

Originally Posted by JobivanHiob

uhm okay.

so if Kotaku isn't ******* with us all and isn't even doing this when the author of the article is being e-mailed. Randy will talk about it at PAX!

So Randy speaking at PAX is a fact!
What I think is strange though, why isn't he listed at the oficial PAX schedule then?
Link 1: http://www.paxsite.com/paxprime/schedule.php
Link 2: http://www.paxsite.com/paxprime/theatreschedule.pdf

He can be a guest, the PAX might be an indication saying "yes, about that time we'll be ready to make an announcement". It mustn't necessarily be an official press conference, it might very well be just a few words by Randy saying "yeah there was this deal we were making with 3DR but it wasn't final so we didn't want to talk about it - now it turned out to be done/denied so we can actually say yes we're on it". I don't know honestly. Even the simple fact that Gearbox is once again working at a Duke game (let that be DNF or Begins) would make me happy - after all, people want a REAL Duke, and it's not so obvious that DNF is necessarily better than Begins.

[Kristian Joensen]

"So Randy speaking at PAX is a fact!"

Nope, Randy BEING at PAX is a fact. Not everyone that is at a conference is a speaker or has a booth. Randy was talking about answering the Kotaku guy straight at the show floor.

Edit:

"and it's not so obvious that DNF is necessarily better than Begins."

While I would prefer DNF to Begins if I had to choose(obviously I would rather have both) what I want most of all is a AAA Duke game for PC/next gen consoles.

[Altered Reality]

Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

So you think Randy is a deceiving bastard?

Nope. He didn't deceive anybody, because he didn't say "it's DNF". It's the people who go around saying "it's DNF" who deceived themselves.

[Kristian Joensen]

There is a difference between lying and deceiving. Your argument only shows that Randy didn't lie, not that he didn't deceive.

"It's the people who go around saying "it's DNF" who deceived themselves."

"Decieved"? That is yet to be shown, the rumor hasn't been denied yet.

[JobivanHiob]

so there it could be a possibility that there is a NDA until PAX. Randy will be there and cause of the lifted NDA he can speak about the whole situation then. But that doesn't mean that DNF will be at PAX too. So we don't even get any media there...but sometime soon after PAX e.g., due to the lifted NDA.

[R-o-D]

I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this, but..

The Gearbox offices happen to be right down the road from 3dr (I got to take a tour of them a couple years back)

[Water12356]

Originally Posted by R-o-D

I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this, but..

The Gearbox offices happen to be right down the road from 3dr (I got to take a tour of them a couple years back)

Its been mentioned several times.

[blakelan91]

Here is the follow up to the duke article http://kotaku.com/5608769/the-week-i...-nukem-finally

[cof_3pc]

Originally Posted by digimonkey

I think reading comprehension is not your strong suit. Unless you consider Kotaku talking to the president of gearbox a rumor.

And yet, you still didn't read my post. I was not talking about that particular part of the article AT ALL. I was simply stating that ALL OF THE OTHER WEBSITES GOT THEIR INFORMATION FROM KOTAKU, so nobody should be getting excited that 20 websites are reporting the same RUMOR.

Did I make that clear enough for you? Now go insult somebody else, because I don't have anymore patience for your level of ignorance.

[Kristian Joensen]

It has been pointed out to you already that that is not entirely true.

[cof_3pc]

Well, that doesn't change the fact that he was interpreting my statement incorrectly. Now as for that other website, if you click the link below it, it does in fact say they got it from Kotaku.

http://www.hardocp.com/news/2010/08/11/duke_gearbox/

http://hardocp.com/news/2010/08/11/g...ukem_forever63

Unless of course you were talking about another website, then I must have missed something.

[ferran275]

Originally Posted by blakelan91

Here is the follow up to the duke article http://kotaku.com/5608769/the-week-i...-nukem-finally

Thanks for this blakelan91, its funny to see that the emphasis has shifted from: "It's gonna get made" to: "Do we really want it made?"

if you ask me (and I know you are!!! ) this proves more than anything the news is genuine, because why would a site that seems to not really care much about the issue start a baseless and pointless rumor?

Only thing I'm worried about is we might not hear anything until later than we thought, we'll hear the news alright, but it might be longer than the beginning of September.

[Kristian Joensen]

Originally Posted by cof_3pc

Well, that doesn't change the fact that he was interpreting my statement incorrectly. Now as for that other website, if you click the link below it, it does in fact say they got it from Kotaku.

Because that is the link to the discussion on their ORIGINAL article which indeed got its info from Kotaku. This is the FOLLOW UP to that. They share a discussion for both news items.

[cof_3pc]

A forum discussing the news that Kotaku reported? Wow, they should just come here and join the party.

[blakelan91]

I think that once the rumor is official people will still say that the game will never come out. Another thing that I don't understand is people saying that gearbox would start over....why would they start over?! If T2 took 3dr to court because they wanted the game out then why would they let them completely start over on the game? I guess until people see that it is on a store shelf they will never believe any official or unofficial news about DNF.

[cof_3pc]

Originally Posted by blakelan91

I think that once the rumor is official people will still say that the game will never come out. Another thing that I don't understand is people saying that gearbox would start over....why would they start over?! If T2 took 3dr to court because they wanted the game out then why would they let them completely start over on the game? I guess until people see that it is on a store shelf they will never believe any official or unofficial news about DNF.

Perhaps this is the agreement they came to in court, and maybe that's why George Twitted it was a Win-Win-Win situation. They get to release Duke, Gearbox gets to finish it, and Nazi Take2 still gets to publish it.

[blakelan91]

I personally think what T2 did was a good thing because they were like people here, tired of bullshit, but they had the power to do something about it. Now DNF is as close as ever to coming out.

[ferran275]

Originally Posted by blakelan91

I think that once the rumor is official people will still say that the game will never come out. Another thing that I don't understand is people saying that gearbox would start over....why would they start over?! If T2 took 3dr to court because they wanted the game out then why would they let them completely start over on the game? I guess until people see that it is on a store shelf they will never believe any official or unofficial news about DNF.

No rumor is needed to know that T2 is PISSED, they poured all this money into something and dammit, they want results, ANYONE can see that, it makes no plausible sense to take something that has so much money into it and scrap it. From a business stand point, its ludicrous. T2 wants what they paid for, and they don't want to put too much more into it so I highly doubt that they will be ok with someone else starting all over AGAIN. The minute I knew Duke was going to be fine was when I heard that T2 held onto the rights, it means the company still has an interest in this franchise.

[Kristian Joensen]

Originally Posted by cof_3pc

A forum discussing the news that Kotaku reported? Wow, they should just come here and join the party.

You still don't get it??? Look:

1) HardOCP has a forum were they discuss HardOCP's news items.
2) HardOCP posts about the Kotaku rumor and a thread gets started about that.
3) HardOCP gets independent confirmation of the Kotaku rumor and makes a news item about that, in that news item they link back to the thread mentioned under 2) above.

How hard can it be to understand?

[alexgk]

Originally Posted by ferran275

The minute I knew Duke was going to be fine was when I heard that T2 held onto the rights, it means the company still has an interest in this franchise.

Not only in the franchise, but probably in the game too. But this is just me speculating

[GOK]

.....geeeebussss..... if T2 had given the extra bit of money that 3DR asked for instead of giving it to lawyers the game would have been out by now and 3DR would still have a full workforce.

[Neo]

One thing is for certain, if a demo really comes out later this year we all know whats going to happen.

[ferran275]

Originally Posted by GOK

.....geeeebussss..... if T2 had given the extra bit of money that 3DR asked for instead of giving it to lawyers the game would have been out by now and 3DR would still have a full workforce.

ahh but that is business isn't it?

ain't it a bitch?

[RuskiSnajper.]

Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

Seeing the actual comment Randy made to Kotaku increases the probability of this being true IMO. Kotaku said that he "may" "clarify" matters at Pax. Randy actually said that he WILL give a STRAIGHT answer at PAX.

Edit:

I say this because "NO" would also be a straight answers and if Gearbox weren't developing DNF nobody could stop them saying that is the case, however if they are developing it there might well be NDA issues. I mean think about, nobody could stop Gabe Newell from saying that Valve isn't developing it or John Carmack from saying that id isn't developing it.

Edit2:

This is why I much prefer quotes than paraphrases in such articles.

Indeed , if it was untrue you would get a straight answer "no" , now they're just hiding it , but they can't say no. And then again not a lot of people know about this yet , about a few 10 tousand or so, it is spreading like fire , but nobody in mainstream would watch gaming news sites every day , they'll watch once a week and maybe just don't notice it.

[ferran275]

Originally Posted by Neo

One thing is for certain, if a demo really comes out later this year we all know whats going to happen.

there will be a spike in 911 calls regarding spontaneous head explosions?

[RuskiSnajper.]

Something is clearly moving even Jon John mentioned it who never mentions DNF so much , but lately he was just picking the DNF waters.

[Zeromaeus]

I've done my part to spread the rumor. Its on the escapist now...