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Old 07-16-2006, 08:13 PM   #81
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too hard for me on the 2 or three highest settings without "instant saves"
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Old 07-17-2006, 01:12 AM   #82
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[QUOTE=addict]wow, what do you people want from a game? Seriously...this isnt an RPG, its an FPS, you blow shit up!
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For such an easy requirement for FPS games, Prey does it horribly wrong. There is almost no intensity in the firefights. All you do is get behind some cover and shoot the dumb as brick enemies. Half the time, they won't even shoot back. For the 15 minutes in the game you aren't fighting hunters, all you have to do is strafe back and forth to dodge their slow as heck rockets. There's almost no health pressure at all and ammo is fairly plentiful for a large portion of the game. You never face more than 3 guys at a time, except for two parts in the game.

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If you dont think this game rocks you should seriously stick to EA Sports games. No other game I've played has been as fun on Singleplayer AND multiplayer since HaloPC came out. Think about all the work that went into this game considering that all of these maps and levels have to be basically "Wrapped" into the inside of a box. The levels are truly 3 dimensional, there is no UP or DOWN but yet you are always on solid ground, shooting at things above you, or are they below you....whatever. There is some serious shit goin on with this game.
Funny, there's this thing called an opinion. Maybe you should look it up.

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And if you think the graphics suck...get a better PC, or at least ditch your AGP 4x video card and step into a modern gaming rig.

My $.02
I ran Prey at 1280x1024 4xAA, 8xAF, full everything and I thought many parts of Prey looked dated. There'd be a cool looking part one spot and then something that looks like it got cut/copied outta 2002. A lot of the textures were really muddy and blurry when you got anywhere close to them. The characters looked really bad compared to how they look in HL2. Everything had this plastic/metallic sheen to it and it definitely did not look like moisture, which would have made sense.
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Old 07-17-2006, 03:47 AM   #83
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You must browse the Prey forum with your eyes closed.
X-vector i point you to the highlighted text in my quote:

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I don't see that much fanaticism at all. Especially not compared to other games. People aren't being shouted at or down or out of here for saying negative things about the game.
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Old 07-17-2006, 04:53 AM   #84
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http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/search.php?searchid=28784

Of course he's an extreme case, but perhaps so are the examples of other games that you're thinking of.

I think one reason that discussions have stayed relatively civil is that the so-called naysayers have mostly voiced their concerns in a civil manner as well.
Still, I do feel that the atmosphere in the Prey forum has at times been more hostile towards dissenting opinion than elsewhere on the board.
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Old 07-17-2006, 06:47 AM   #85
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My two beans: I enjoyed it a lot. The story was good (kudos to the writers for how twisted it went near the end!), though I was a little disappointed that I didn't get the option to blow the 'boss' of the sphere to itty bitty pieces rather than merging, and that flying the sphere was scripted though. It was great in Rune that you could actually go evil at the end and smash the last Runestone if you wanted rather than fight Conrack... Especially because it wasn't hinted at at all. I just wandered up there, thought "Hmm..." and had a whack at it.

Gameplay wise it was good. Combat was a bit suck, but the puzzles kept it interesting. I didn't like deathwalk so much though - I went through the whole game not worried about at all the big evil threats. "Oh dear, big hulking gun-arms-monster killed me, back to spirit world..." *10 seconds later* "Oh hello again gun-monster, you still here? Get out of my face!" It stopped me getting stuck or annoyed with the combat, but I wouldn't want other games to have something like it as standard.

Graphics were good, much better than Quake 4, although the bluriness close up annoyed me.

Mostly it was a solid, high quality, innovative game. I did get hooked and drawn all the way to the end, rather than Quake 4, which was a chore to get through. I don't think I'd count it as a classic though, it's just too much of a one-play wonder. I really don't feel the need to play it again. By comparison I've played Rune a few times and would like to again despite it being linear. Prey just seems too crampt, too corridoor-ish. There's not the variety of Half-Life 2 for example.

So - I would give it 89%. Well worth buying, but not something I'm enthused about playing again.
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:54 AM   #86
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So far I am enjoying it, but not as much as I had hoped. It feels fairly straightforward, and as someone mentioned the combat is not very intense. Death walk sort of doesn't grab me, spirit walk is a bit too obvious for my liking sometimes, wallwalk is disorienting (but quite fun) and portals are nice and seemless (hoping to see more puzzles involving them later on).

I sound a bit disappointed but I know I'll end up enjoying this a lot more the second time round. The highs for me are the voice acting (mostly good all round), the Art Bell sections, the part with the bar patrons and of course the epic score. From what I have heard so far, the Soule brothers have done an outstanding job of it, and I might see if I can grab it off of Direct Song. The music has added immensely for me in a couple of parts so far, and it's good to see it making a return in a newer game.

The only bit that's bothering me atm is in Hidden Agenda (about half way I think?) and seem to be stuck with nowhere clear to go. I've just fought off a few of those floating robots, and don't know where I'm supposed to go next. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 07-17-2006, 08:23 AM   #87
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portals are nice and seemless (hoping to see more puzzles involving them later on).
You wont
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Old 07-17-2006, 10:40 AM   #88
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i happend to enjoy doom 3 more,
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Old 07-17-2006, 10:54 AM   #89
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Check out the stickied review thread. I'd say most people enjoy the game a good bit.
wow, george replyed to my post, im flattered. thanks george. i got a copy and will post what i think when im done.
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Old 07-17-2006, 11:15 AM   #90
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http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/search.php?searchid=28784

Of course he's an extreme case, but perhaps so are the examples of other games that you're thinking of.

I think one reason that discussions have stayed relatively civil is that the so-called naysayers have mostly voiced their concerns in a civil manner as well.
Still, I do feel that the atmosphere in the Prey forum has at times been more hostile towards dissenting opinion than elsewhere on the board.

Unfortunately the link doesn't work for me:
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Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.
I agree with the amount of general civilness, but compared with the HL2/Doom 3 "debates" that raged in those forums... along with the personal attacks etc. this forum has been pretty sedate...
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Old 07-17-2006, 11:59 AM   #91
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http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/search.php?searchid=28925
This one works for me, it's a list of posts by a new member called brandon105.

For another example (different user): http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showth...887#post359887

Of course, it's not the battlefield that was the temporary Max Payne forum over at VoodooExtreme.
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Old 07-17-2006, 02:01 PM   #92
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Both games are bad cause the AI is horrible and is NO challenge.

Prey just tries to make up for it with awesome graphics, weapons, music, and innovative level design. But it still doesn't cover up the fact that the AI is pathetic, weak, predictable, and BORING. I'd sooner devour my own intestinal tract than play through the game again.........................................no not really thats just the disappointment speaking from inside of me.
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Old 07-17-2006, 02:08 PM   #93
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http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/search.php?searchid=28925
This one works for me, it's a list of posts by a new member called brandon105.
Searches expire after a set amount of time.

Here's what you want:
http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/search...induser&u=7941
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Old 07-17-2006, 03:16 PM   #94
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Well the two links that worked (thanks ADM for getting the first one to work) weren't even that bad. Fair enough that top one's last message was completely over the top bad, but the rest of his posts were just an angry person's posts.... nothing special.

The second one? I presume you're talking about von what'shisname? Because i've read that thread and it seriously is nowhere near the level of anality that was in the doom and HL2 forums on this board.... plus in many other game forums it is much worse/has been much worse on release.

I really think the mods are doing a good job here, but at the same time i don't think it's as bad as you think. But anyway there's no point going over it again and again
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Old 07-17-2006, 04:41 PM   #95
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My opinion is:
Many people are playing a FPS by rushing level by level only waiting to what is coming (the end eventualy). I used to do that to, but if you follow the storyline more, it doesnt matter how long or short the game is.
I dont mean that is always that cause, but sometimes it is
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Old 07-17-2006, 05:23 PM   #96
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so far im diggin it!! i just meet the princess. if i had to nitpick id say at a couple parts the level design looks kinda plain but hardly. and some of the wall/ceiling walker stuff was just for show which i though was a little silly. other than that its been a blast so far. sorry, i just have huge expectations from the creators of duke and lo wang.
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Old 07-17-2006, 05:34 PM   #97
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Duoae: I kind of think he meant Zizz. He's pretty much saying "if you found something wrong with this game then you suck. Go away!" Although much more rude. Of course he could mean "Von what'shisname" as well, I could be wrong. I just found Zizz's comment kind of fanboyish. (although reading some of those Brandon101 comments is kind of funny in a sad way too...)

megadeth.mp3: I wasn't rushing. I still finished the game in a meagre 7 hours. I guess, however, there isn't much reason in a Prey level to dawdle, so the tendancy to rush increases. (especially later in the game - if you've seen one passage that looks like the inside of a colon, you've seen them all, hey? :P)

abnormal: same here.DN3D and Shadow Warrior was awesome. shamefully haven't seen anything that grabbed me quite the same sinse then. (not a big fan of Max Payne, sorry)
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Old 07-20-2006, 08:43 AM   #98
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As a programer myself, i tried the demo yesterday and i was impressed by some aspects they dig into it, for example the oh my god it's a giant scene is very well made, i'm still thinking about that code today, it was great, believe me, there is quality in that game, and that was just the demo!
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Old 07-20-2006, 11:57 AM   #99
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so far im diggin it!! i just meet the princess.
wtf??? what game are you playing?? there's no 'princess' in Prey? wtf are you on about??
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Old 07-20-2006, 12:02 PM   #100
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wtf??? what game are you playing?? there's no 'princess' in Prey? wtf are you on about??
Elhuit. Defined in the Prey console as "hiderprincess"
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Old 07-20-2006, 12:11 PM   #101
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well I'll be damned. so she is. I forgot all about her. Abnormal, consider my question answered. Though my anal retentiveness would prefer to refer to her as the 'Priestess' like those two morons outside the door do when you first get there.
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Old 07-20-2006, 12:41 PM   #102
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i think its impossible to say prey is not unique. It was a great single player experience. at least try the demo. sometimes this genre isnt for you but its not by any means a BAD GAME
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Old 07-20-2006, 05:27 PM   #103
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I actually enjoyed Area 51 better than Prey.....
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Old 07-20-2006, 05:31 PM   #104
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Prey is definitely not unique. It has some innovative elements but they are all used in a way it would have been almost the exact same thing without it. The overall experience felt like Quake 4, without the satisfying combat, to me.
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Old 07-21-2006, 08:28 AM   #105
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Yes I have to agree that I am also very disappointed with how easy and short this game is. At least Doom 3 and Quake 4 were harder and therefore had more lifespan. I myself very rarely play an FPS twice after completion, unless it has been an outstanding game. Unfortunately this game has no replay value to me and I will not be playing it through again, instead I will be selling it on ebay. All I can say is, good effort 3D Realms, but not good enough. Graphics do not make a game great it has to have more for it be great.
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Old 07-22-2006, 02:35 PM   #106
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Just finished it.. I'd say that overall I enjoyed it and felt that it was worth the money, although primarily because of the eye-candy.

If I had to pin one reason why this game won't be particularly memorable for me it's because it's just a giant shooting gallery. The same few enemies pop in hundreds of times, mostly stay still and you blow em away. That combined with the unbalanced weapons and sluggish feeling play in multiplayer means there is pretty much no staying power here.
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Old 07-22-2006, 02:50 PM   #107
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Prey is one of the funnest games I've played.
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Old 07-22-2006, 02:53 PM   #108
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Yeah I agree that prey is better than Doom3. I didn't play thru the entire game, but got pretty far, but I was almost forcing myself to play. Prey is a lot better. I'm on like the hidden or something right now
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Old 07-22-2006, 06:51 PM   #109
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I'm not dissapointed with Prey. Technically it is done better than Doom 3, but Doom 3 is scarier... Prey is just too easy with no death.
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Old 07-22-2006, 10:27 PM   #110
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To any other game this quote wouldn't be as funny as it is to Prey. You DO know they spent 10 years making this game don't you? (5 on the old graphics engine and 5 on the Doom3 engine)
10 years on and off. Prey was a different game some time back and was even shelved at one time.

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I get the impression that you're one of those people who have to find something to moan about with everything. Prey was epic and really, really good fun. If you're really that disappointed with a clear masterpiece like this game then perhaps gaming isn't the hobby for you, maybe something like... accountancy would suit you better?
Just because I don't think Prey is the greatest thing since sliced bread doesn't mean that I am a "moaner". Some people like things, some people don't. Without repeating what I've already said , Prey - to me - wasn't anything new. Like I stated before, I felt like I was playing Doom 3 with a Native American character.

Accountancy? What the heck is that?
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Old 07-23-2006, 09:12 PM   #111
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To everyone mentioning how great the DEMO was...

That's exactly one of the reasons I didn't like the full game. It didn't live up to the expectations I got from the demo.

I LOVED the demo and was TOTALLY psyched to play the full game... and then, no new weapons, few new monsters.. things in the demo still unexplained/incomplete at the end of the game.. MUCH less interaction.. No more WOW moments like the (its a giant, or sphere opening to reveal earth..)...

There were some cool puzzles in the full game, and of course the one main "emotional" moment.. and my favorite part is still when Tommy goes bezerk. Music was also awesome.

The game WAS definitely good, I just feel it didn't hit the ALL TIME CLASSIC list like I expected from the demo of it. And that was the biggest let down of all.
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Old 07-23-2006, 09:13 PM   #112
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The funny thing is, I was really happy with the bar part in the begining.
Finally some jokes, interactive stuff and character introduction.
(Actually it felt a littlebit like Kingpin - which is good)

But after the Aliens beam you up it goes boring very fast.
The fact that you can't die is pretty stupid.
It's like watching an interactive movie or playing a game in god mode.
I mean it's ok for casual gamers who just want to get entertained but I like my games challenging.
Then the gravity and portal stuff.
Seriously I would have said it's the best idea since the flare pistol in BLOOD if they would have been used in only one level but seeing this over and over...*sigh*. Outdoor areas, new enviroment settings, whatever but not this endless alien space ship ride.
And the weapons, man they are boring as hell. (Turok2 was way better in this term - a mix of classic and alien weapons. Remember the brain eater gun!? - that is badass creativity and a fun weapon to use.)

Personally I would rate the game 2.5/5 because of the cool begining and the spirit walk - indian theme.
But the boring levels, unchallenging gameplay and uninspired weapons have killed it for me.

Cut the game after the first hour on the ship and get Tommy to some locations of the ship - limit the dead walk and get him some badass weapons.
Or just release DNF already.
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Old 07-23-2006, 09:18 PM   #113
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I loved Doom 3, but Prey is funner in my opinion.
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Old 07-24-2006, 03:17 AM   #114
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Prey isn't revolutionary which is why I was dissapointed...the graphics end is dated.
are you finished the game?
also I thought this when I have tried the demo, but now that I have ended the game I must say that the graphics is absolutely exceptional.
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Old 07-24-2006, 03:37 AM   #115
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Yea, the demo was definitely loaded. It showed some decent combat, which doesn't improve at all during the full version. You are still stuck with that stupid alien rifle for 50% of the game. You fight hunters for 90% of the game.

There was very little interactivity after the bar scene. A couple poker machines spliced into a room doesn't count as interactivity. I'm talking about manipulating your surroundings, such as moving a box with more than your gun/body.

The puzzles (save for the giant cube) aren't more complicated than anything in the demo. Most of the puzzles are just spiritwalk across forcefield, deactivate forcefield or hit gravity switch until you fall into portal. The puzzles only get bigger or make you spirit walk more. There isn't anything fundementally different about them.

Prey is just a diversion until the big hitters come out this year (Gears of War, HL2 Ep2/Portal/TF2, Supreme Commander (MAYBE?)). Prey would have been wet-dream inducing in 2003. In 2006, it's nothing but a speed bump to whet appetites until something more meaty comes along.
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Old 07-24-2006, 07:53 AM   #116
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Yea, the demo was definitely loaded. It showed some decent combat, which doesn't improve at all during the full version. You are still stuck with that stupid alien rifle for 50% of the game. You fight hunters for 90% of the game.

There was very little interactivity after the bar scene. A couple poker machines spliced into a room doesn't count as interactivity. I'm talking about manipulating your surroundings, such as moving a box with more than your gun/body.

The puzzles (save for the giant cube) aren't more complicated than anything in the demo. Most of the puzzles are just spiritwalk across forcefield, deactivate forcefield or hit gravity switch until you fall into portal. The puzzles only get bigger or make you spirit walk more. There isn't anything fundementally different about them.

Prey is just a diversion until the big hitters come out this year (Gears of War, HL2 Ep2/Portal/TF2, Supreme Commander (MAYBE?)). Prey would have been wet-dream inducing in 2003. In 2006, it's nothing but a speed bump to whet appetites until something more meaty comes along.
I disagree

We are speaking about the present not of the future, of the games that we have been able to play till now.
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