Duke Plus

[Commando Nukem]

Originally Posted by supergoofy

amazing work DeeperThought. but, that clicking sound when you change to the double-barreled shotgun is not suitable, it's rather bad. let's try all to help you find a better sound


I think the sound is free stuff. If it is otherwise then I will delete the link. I respect the copyrights of all companies.

It isnt free, its a sound from doom.

As for the sound that DT is using, it sounds fine, sounds like a metal breach being opened, which is what it needs to sound like.

[XTHX2]

I was talking about weapon selection sound, not the reload sound but I don't know about goofy.

[supergoofy]

yeah, I'm also talking about the weapon selection sound for the double-barreled shotgun. the DSDBCLS sound seemed to me more suitable, but not good enough.

what about the sound that is used in blood (demo/shareware), when you take a box of bullets or tnt.
or a sound from redneck rampage (demo/shareware).
or search sounds from the various TCs.
needs a lot of search, so forget it.

so after second thoughts, I say that the current weapon selection sound for the double-barreled shotgun is fine.

[DeeperThought]

Did anyone notice that the sitting liztroop died immediately upon being shot, instead of waiting for 30 counts like it does in the regular CONs?

[d3ad connection]

Originally Posted by DeeperThought

Did anyone notice that the sitting liztroop died immediately upon being shot, instead of waiting for 30 counts like it does in the regular CONs?

Is that a new feature? I hope so, that's always annoyed me.

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by d3ad connection

Is that a new feature? I hope so, that's always annoyed me.

It annoyed me too, although it was kind of funny when the liztroops on the toilet would flush it with their last dying breath, after taking a full load of shotgun in the chest a second earlier.

Here's the code and a mini-tutorial on the subject, in case anyone else wants to use it:

actor LIZTROOPONTOILET TROOPSTRENGTH
  ifcount 24
  {
    sound FLUSH_TOILET
    operate
    ai AITROOPSEEKPLAYER
    cactor LIZTROOP
  }
  else
    ifcount 2
      nullop
  else
    state checktrooppalette
    
   getactor[THISACTOR].htextra temp
   ifvarg temp TROOPSTRENGTH { cactor LIZTROOP spawn FECES }
enda
actor LIZTROOPJUSTSIT TROOPSTRENGTH
  ifcount 30
  {
    operate
    ai AITROOPSEEKPLAYER
    cactor LIZTROOP
  }
  else
    ifcount 2
      nullop
  else
    state checktrooppalette
     
    getactor[THISACTOR].htextra temp
    ifvarg temp TROOPSTRENGTH cactor LIZTROOP
enda

What that added yellow code does is check to see how much damage the sprite has taken, and if it is more than TROOPSTRENGTH, it changes the sprite to a regular liztroop, where the regular code will start to execute, and it will check ifhitweapon. htextra will go up each time you shoot it (it isn't cleared unless ifhitweapon is checked).

If you are a novice CON coder, you might think it better to use "ifhitweapon cactor LIZTROOP" instead. There are two problems with that, which I'm sure the original coder knew about.

The first problem is that it will make the liztroop get up immediately, even from one pistol shot. That's lame; it's better if the liztroop can sit there surprised for a moment if it hasn't yet taken enough damage to kill it. The second problem is that once you use ifhitweapon you need to immediately check ifdead and apply the death code if appropriate; otherwise, the shot won't count and you may even end up with a liztroop that has over 30000 health due to its health value flipping.

[XTHX2]

Maybe an ifcount like 10 can help? At the left of cactor command.

[Kenny mckormick]

I don't know for the code (of course..)

But the double barrelled shotgun remember me the Sawed-off of Blood,maybe rename it?

And nice HUD...

And you cannot set the MP5 and the Shotgun cruizer sub too?in option too...

[XTHX2]

" Add together the bits that you want to get the desired effects. For example, a BOTALLY with an EXTRA set to 30 (16 + 8 + 2 ) will be a medic with double strength and a shotgun. "

Taken from your document at your DP site. I guess there's something wrong with that explanation... Just logically

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by XTHX2

" Add together the bits that you want to get the desired effects. For example, a BOTALLY with an EXTRA set to 30 (16 + 8 + 2 ) will be a medic with double strength and a shotgun. "

Taken from your document at your DP site. I guess there's something wrong with that explanation... Just logically

The explanation is correct, but the numbers add up to 26, not 30... I hope that didn't baffle you for too long.

[XTHX2]

Hmm I actually thought you would say both Quad and Double so x8 times their health? (I just noticed today)

[DeeperThought]

Duke Plus 1.8 is ready to be released, but I'm waiting for the next EDuke32 snapshot to be released first, so that I can include it, and I'm also waiting for Gambini to get home from work so that he can confirm that his map is the way he wants it. When all that happens, I will start a new thread for DP 1.8, because this thread is getting too long.

I am in the process of updating the web site. Currently, no download is available and the documentation for version 1.8 is up there.

[XTHX2]

-New steroids effect in singleplayer: everything else in the world slows down while your movement speed remains unchanged

That's a bit too familiar to me... I don't know why

Also, about the double barelled shotgun, the option for giving it to pigs makes them even stronger right? We can pick them up from usermaps right?

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by XTHX2

That's a bit too familiar to me... I don't know why

I don't either, but it's a very obvious way of using the inittimer command and it wouldn't surprise me if other mods have been using it for that purpose. All credit goes to TerminX, who made that command for use in his TC.

The new shotgun can be placed in user maps like any other weapon.

[CarThief]

I think i found more bugs.

The first one, being also quite... funny. :P
I got kind of face to face nearby with a lizard trooper, he tried to blow himself, and then, he teleported right before the blast! Now, a suicide bomber would'nt run out of his victims range before exploding, no?

And the new quotes dont appear in EDuke's console log either.

Oh, and moncapsules dropped by monsters qoute that you found a tripbomb, instead of a moncapsule, the drop being a non-green moncapsule.

Edit: Oh yeah, a one more longer standing bug:
There still is that GROWSPRITEICON(#32) that cannot be picked up, possibily also being in your effects map. If i recall correctly, you cant pick it up in DP or normally, unless that was recently fixed.
If it wasnt ever edited/fixed, who knows its usefull for the second update, to make it give the player a shriker or expander with 10 ammo, or something like that. Depending what gets picked up.

[XTHX2]

Hmm I don't know if this is a bug or not but some monsters tend to take no damage from DB when I shoot them I don't know why but when I switch to shotgun, they die very easily!!!

[DeeperThought]

I can make the suicide bomber liztroops not teleport if they are near the player.

The quotes don't show up in the log because they are displayed differently.

The DB shotgun has a wider spread and is very ineffective at long range. The regular shotgun is still quote useful.

The GROWSPRITEICON does indeed work as an expander pickup. What happened in your case was probably that you already had the expander and maximum ammo, and the weapon pickup sprite was set to blocking, so you just bumped into it like it was a dead sprite.

[XTHX2]

I wasn't too far... I was at mid-close range.

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by XTHX2

I wasn't too far... I was at mid-close range.

If this happens again, please send me a saved game from while it is happening. In my experience the DB shotgun always kills monsters just fine.

[XTHX2]

Ok here is the saved game along with the map I played it with, Clear the Coast. It's the gray suited pig cop and some lizmans doing it. I don't know why though, as they die with a single shot of shotgun.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/suwklo

[Headless_Horseman]

Question : I have a bunch of maps that I want to put together in an episode to be played with Duke Plus, latest release. How can I do that ?
I browsed the 3 .con files in dpcons folder, but I really can't find where to put the definevolumename and such (yes, I'm n00b).

[DeeperThought]

Originally Posted by Headless_Horseman

Question : I have a bunch of maps that I want to put together in an episode to be played with Duke Plus, latest release. How can I do that ?
I browsed the 3 .con files in dpcons folder, but I really can't find where to put the definevolumename and such (yes, I'm n00b).

You don't put that in the Duke Plus cons. You need to modify USER.CON (the one that comes with the original game) and put a copy of it at the root level. Replace one of the original episodes with your episode.

EDIT: Damnit, I didn't notice that this was in the old DP thread. Here is the new thread:

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=32623

I'm not going to reply to this thread any more.

[cole]

i have a problem with dukeplus in multiplayer.. i dont know why in these latest versions in dukonnector i cannot use some of the abilities like grabbing on the wall, pick up objects, fire alternate rockets with the rpg.. in the single player is everything ok. but in the multi some features disappears. do u know why? thanks for the answers

[The Commander]

Did you even read the last post before you pasted in this thread? Deeper Thought isnt going to respond to your post because this is for the OLD Duke Plus, Read his last message.

Originally Posted by DeeperThought

Damnit, I didn't notice that this was in the old DP thread. Here is the new thread:

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=32623

I'm not going to reply to this thread any more.

[cole]

sorry i didnt read it.. i copied my question in the other tread.. thanx

[Son of the Boss]

Whoops: Nevermind.

[Sanek]

Coming 1.9 ?

[The Commander]

This is the OLD Duke Plus thread. He isnt going to answer your question.