Rumor: Gearbox Reviving Duke Nukem Forever

[Youngerthanold]

Originally Posted by Rapture_Rising

What was the point to that post.

PS. Not yours Parkar but the one on that website

I know! I just read it, and didn't see any "new" information at all...interesting. Maybe I missed it. lol

[Kristian Joensen]

I understand that as HardOCP getting an independent confirmation of this, in other words it is not just Kotaku any more.

[Parkar]

Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

I understand that as HardOCP getting an independent confirmation of this, in other words it is not just Kotaku any more.

Yea exactly, in the discussion thread he mentions planing a visit to a company in the same building as gearbox and snoop around a bit. In other words this is one more source confirming what the Kotaku sources say.

[Altered Reality]

Originally Posted by Wheatley

Damien, I thought PREY was started in 1999, I saw some game-play of it on youtube, of George showing someone some Test levels.

It wasn't George, it was Paul Schuytema. And it wasn't 1999, it was 1997 and 1998.
Prey E3 1997 IMHz
Prey E3 1998 IMHz

[Rapture_Rising]

Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

I understand that as HardOCP getting an independent confirmation of this, in other words it is not just Kotaku any more.

How do you know that it didnt come from the same source, kotaku said that the sources wanted to remain anonymous.

[KO Gilligan]

Originally Posted by Altered Reality

"We want to give Prey as much space as possible, so this meant getting Duke Forever done early in 1998." - Scott Miller, 1997

"We're confident that DNF will be one of the greatest, if not the greatest, game of 1998. And this confidence is not misplaced." - Scott Miller, 1997

"We expect 1998 (our 11th year in the gaming business) to be our best yet, with all kinds of stuff happening with Duke Nukem Forever, Prey, Max Payne, and Descent: Freespace." - Joe Siegler, 1997

"Duke Nukem Forever is a 1999 game and we think that timeframe matches very well with what we have planned for the game." - George Broussard, 1998

"We expect 1999 (our 12th year in the gaming business) to be our best yet, with two new Duke Nukem games coming out, as well as Max Payne (with Prey on the horizon, too)." - Joe Siegler, 1998

"Trust us, Duke Nukem Forever will rock when it comes out next year." - Joe Siegler, 1999

"We expect 2000 (our 13th year in the gaming business) to be our best yet, with the forthcoming Duke Nukem Forever & Max Payne." - Joe Siegler, 1999

"When it's done in 2001." - 2000 Christmas card

"DNF will come out before Unreal 2." - George Broussard, 2001

"If DNF is not out in 2001, something's very wrong." - George Broussard, 2001

"DNF will come out before Doom 3." - George Broussard, 2002

Just sayin'.

Looks like you agree with me Those are all like 10 years ago, and what do they have to do with what I said? Obviously dates are always just wishful thinking, and I don't think we can assume anything.

I honestly believe that the April 1 date is irrelevant to estimates of what state the game is in now. We don't know staffing, and we don't know progress. Even the game maker can't just throw up an arbitrary date a year ahead and justify it. I stand behind that - It's just how it is in the industry - the dates are typically just wishful thinking.

Now... looking at the information we have... I still think we're just waiting for the port to XBox - the game is done.

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Originally Posted by Rapture_Rising

How do you know that it didnt come from the same source, kotaku said that the sources wanted to remain anonymous.

Kotaku is taken seriously because they have consistantly had a leg up on their stories.

Many other sites will likely jump on this as if they have another angle, and they are helping to uncover the details...
Truth is, it'll probably be the same Kotaku rumor regenerated all over the internet now.

Disgruntled employees sometimes start this crap up -
(like someone who was hoping Gearbox would pick DNF up, perhaps)

Let's hope somebody on the inside didn't just make some crap up to cause trouble.

[mr.smith]

It's Time.

Doom 4 head to head with Duke Nukem 4ever.

2011 will be very interesting, everyone knows Carmack is going to announce Doom 4 August 12, and september 3 Duke Nukem Forever will be announced and heads will explode...

Only Games worth the wait.

[Steve]

Out of all of the rumors and speculation over the years this one seems the most plausible.

[JobivanHiob]

The STEVE! Team up with me!

[Steve]

Originally Posted by JobivanHiob

The STEVE! Team up with me!

[Psyrgery]

Ninjaedit: ^ Winrar answer

Always bet on the balls of Steve

[X-Vector]

Originally Posted by KO Gilligan

Now... looking at the information we have... I still think we're just waiting for the port to XBox - the game is done.

The port to PC you mean, or are you really that naive?

[mr.smith]

OF all games ever made Duke Nukem Forever should be the only one with an epic demo, revolutionary online mode with cross platform communication, and the sweetest sound track ever heard.

most interactive piece of awesomeness ever thought of, sickest multiplayer ever, and the single most important part of the game DUKE.

[Youngerthanold]

Originally Posted by mr.smith

OF all games ever made Duke Nukem Forever should be the only one with an epic demo, revolutionary online mode with cross platform communication, and the sweetest sound track ever heard.

most interactive piece of awesomeness ever thought of, sickest multiplayer ever, and the single most important part of the game DUKE.

Hence the reason Duke was delayed...

[Golden Diva]

Originally Posted by X-Vector

The port to PC you mean, or are you really that naive?

Sure. A well-organized company only aiming at making $$$ (and succeeding at that) would have started with the console crap and then porting it to PC.
But we are talking about 3D Realms here.

[KO Gilligan]

Originally Posted by X-Vector

The port to PC you mean, or are you really that naive?

I've got a couple shooters that are true port-to-PC titles. I enjoy a few of them, but they are not traditional mouse-aim run and guns. They are titles developed for consoles and then made to work on PC.

Whatever you call that, it's not going to be what we get. It's a mouse aim & keyboard title that will work on XBox. But that's true about most FPS games - yes they dumb thewm down in the original design (and please lets not go there) , but they are, no doubt, PC designed titles.

I was thinking about an old game I have that's a port-to-PC. But come to think of it, I wonder if Mass Effect was created with PC as an afterthought

[Steve]

A lot of unreal engine based games are worked on simultaneously. Not ported. So 360 version will not be a port (or the PC version, however you look at it)

[KO Gilligan]

Originally Posted by Steve

A lot of unreal engine based games are worked on simultaneously. Not ported. So 360 version will not be a port (or the PC version, however you look at it)

Oh...

But don't they work on the console controls later?

Damn, it must be like developing 2 games at once.

[Valdsator]

Didn't 3D Realms say once that they were testing to see if the encounters with enemies are possible with a 360 controller?

They'll probably balance it, but I hope it's mainly made for the PC. I'm tired of these badly done ports.

[Damien_Azreal]

Originally Posted by Youngerthanold

Hence the reason Duke was delayed...

Yeah... that must be it.
It couldn't have been the lack of funding, letting go of the development team... or even the lawsuit... nope.

It was all that crap about cross platform MP...

[Youngerthanold]

Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

Yeah... that must be it.
It couldn't have been the lack of funding, letting go of the development team... or even the lawsuit... nope.

It was all that crap about cross platform MP...

ONE of the reasons duke was delayed...lol


and I was talking about the interactivity and urge to be the best game out there too btw. :P

[WarThrash]

Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

Yeah... that must be it.
It couldn't have been the lack of funding, letting go of the development team... or even the lawsuit... nope.

It was all that crap about cross platform MP...

No, it was all the chewing gum that 3DR bought with the money they made from Duke 3D that kept the game in Development Hell.

But now they're all out of gum...

Ok, lame, I know

[Youngerthanold]

Wait, wasn't the REAL reason Duke was delayed this:

"It's of course been all the cocaine and strippers"

:P

[Spirrwell(CI)]

Well although I'm not 100% sure of the rumor, it would explain why all is silent. It could be part of the Gearbox contract, or it could be that they aren't 100% sure what's going to happen with 3rd party developers, I saw a video on IGN that showed the rumor as well, with this type of a rumor spreading this fast and that far, 3DRealms will have to come out and say something soon. So maybe in a month or so, we'll have information.

[X-Vector]

Originally Posted by KO Gilligan

Whatever you call that, it's not going to be what we get. It's a mouse aim & keyboard title that will work on XBox.

No, it will be the other way around.

I fully expect a simultaneous release of console and PC versions, but the game will be geared towards the largest platform, just like all other big name FPS games these days.

[WarThrash]

Originally Posted by X-Vector

No, it will be the other way around.

I fully expect a simultaneous release of console and PC versions, but the game will be geared towards the largest platform, just like all other big name FPS games these days.

Dude just drop it. I'm sure Duke will be great on both platforms. Stop acting like everyone is out to oppress PC gamers. Last time I checked Borderlands was great on the PC to most people who played it, so I'm sure Gearbox would take good care of all platform versions of Duke if this rumor were true.

[KO Gilligan]

Originally Posted by X-Vector

the game will be geared towards the largest platform, just like all other big name FPS games these days.

oh...

I knew this was going to be a "dumbed down for platform" conversation.

I'm just going to leave it with "you're wrong" since I've played enough wonky giant hit box, seemingly random headshot, 3-button-mashing games to know that they aint all the same.

[WarThrash]

Were did I say "They are all the same"? I know there are horrible ports on PC, but same goes for consoles. You ever play Quake 4 on the 360?

I'm saying that I'd imagine since a large portion of Duke's fanbase is PC, they'd take care of it as well as console versions.

[KO Gilligan]

Originally Posted by Youngerthanold

Wait, wasn't the REAL reason Duke was delayed this:

"It's of course been all the cocaine and strippers"

:P

Thought it was Cocaine and Hookers.

and it was an easy mistake to make...
I always thought I could get anything finished given enough Cocaine and Hookers too.

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Originally Posted by WarThrash

Were did I say "They are all the same"? I know there are horrible ports on PC, but same goes for consoles. You ever play Quake 4 on the 360?

I'm saying that I'd imagine since a large portion of Duke's fanbase is PC, they'd take care of it as well as console versions.

LOL - I wasn't quoting you

I was agreeing with you.

I don't believe that games are being ruined by consoles, and the players are the reason they dumb them down. Hell, how many people actually use a mouse or keyboard on their console.

[crunchy superman]

Prey didn't really feel console-y to me, so as long as they give me at least that level, I'll be ok with it. Besides, there will be plenty of other things to gripe about in a game that can't possibly meet expectations anyway.

[KO Gilligan]

Originally Posted by crunchy superman

Prey didn't really feel console-y to me, so as long as they give me at least that level, I'll be ok with it. Besides, there will be plenty of other things to gripe about in a game that can't possibly meet expectations anyway.

That little break in prey where you resurrect yourself by shooting down the spirit birds or whatever they are..... definitely console-y.

Prey is one of my favorites though.

[X-Vector]

Originally Posted by WarThrash

Stop acting like everyone is out to oppress PC gamers.

Why don't you stop seeing things that aren't there?

[KO Gilligan]

Originally Posted by X-Vector

Why don't you stop seeing things that aren't there?

It's just that we've been down the road you chose to take before

[cof_3pc]

Well the record, to flip the POV here, Mass Effect was originally a Xbox 360 game, and it was 10 times better when they ported it to PC.

That's a rare occasion. I love those games on PC.


Oh yeah, and, SHOCK and AWE next month!!!!

[Crash_7]

Originally Posted by JobivanHiob

I hate to see only Gearbox and Take 2 on the box, but lets hope 3D Realms gets a special treatment in the credits!

I'm probably going to rile some folk with this, but I'll say it anyway. Assuming this rumor is true (big assumption, I know), and DNF does finally come to fruition this way, we have Take 2 to thank for it. I hate evil publishers as much as the next guy, but the lawsuit had the effect of forcing 3drealms to farm the game out to Gearbox. In my opinion, that's the only way it was ever going to get done.

[KO Gilligan]

Originally Posted by cof_3pc

Well the record, to flip the POV here, Mass Effect was originally a Xbox 360 game, and it was 10 times better when they ported it to PC.

That's a rare occasion. I love those games on PC.


Oh yeah, and, SHOCK and AWE next month!!!!

I was just wondering about that... very console-y, and very good.

Originally Posted by KO Gilligan

But come to think of it, I wonder if Mass Effect was created with PC as an afterthought

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22 days to Shock
22 days to Awe

[WarThrash]

Originally Posted by KO Gilligan

LOL - I wasn't quoting you

I was agreeing with you.

My bad, I missed the quote.

Originally Posted by X-Vector

Why don't you stop seeing things that aren't there?

I never said it was there, but you sure are acting like it is.

[KaiserSoze]

Can't wait!

Gonna buy both the pc release and Xbox 360 versions.

Halo gonna get pwned.

[JobivanHiob]

like was said: "Duke will have a go at masterchief this year."

[WarThrash]

Am I missing something? Has this rumor actually been confirmed yet? Because most of you are acting as if your about to head out and pre-order the damn thing.