what's that "virtualreality" thing in wolf3d

Whistler · 05-15-2004, 09:02 PM

start the wolf3d with the "virtual" parameter seems to do nothing but crash DOS with calling int 60h.

But what's that thing ?

Frenkel · 05-16-2004, 05:18 AM

That's weird. I never noticed that. You can look in the source code to see what it's supposed to do.

MarkJ · 05-16-2004, 04:11 PM

You know, that's really wierd. I was thinking that exact same thing no more than a week ago <insert spooky music here>. From what I can remember (in the few miutes which I spent looking at it), it seems to skip all the usual game menues and demos and go straight into the game, but on mine it just crashes too.

I guess if you were to just remove it, no one would notice.

Whistler · 05-17-2004, 07:57 AM

I have already read the source code, and actually I've found that in the code.

In the code if we start the Wolf3d with "virtual" parameter, it won't switch to graphic mode and just call interrupt 60h to crash DOS. I don't know what that is.

Crosma · 05-17-2004, 09:31 AM

Software interrupt 60h is used by DOS packet drivers for networking. Maybe it's some early networking code that doesn't work. That's my guess.

moron · 05-17-2004, 11:25 AM

well I know rott had VR glases suport maby it was planed for wolf as well

Joe Siegler · 05-17-2004, 01:24 PM

I believe it was a hook for something never developed. I'd have to look at it closer though, but I'm fairly sure that's right.

Remember not everything is SUPPOSED to do something.

Frenkel · 05-18-2004, 07:47 AM

Has this anything to do with Wolfenstein VR (for a VR booth-type game)?

Joe Siegler · 05-18-2004, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Has this anything to do with Wolfenstein VR (for a VR booth-type game)?

I don't think so. I admit to not remembering 100% for sure, but I'm fairly confident they're two different things.

Hudson · 05-19-2004, 12:49 AM

I remember seeing a Duke Nukem 3D VR booth at Kennywood theme park once. That was awesome

I just wish I knew more about it though

Joe Siegler · 05-19-2004, 09:19 AM

Kennywood? My wife loves that place.

8IronBob · 05-19-2004, 07:02 PM

Oh yeah, I heard about Kennywood, one of my friends that I know originally comes from PA, so that's how I heard about that. As for the Duke 3D VR park, well, that might be too recent for him, he's been here in Cleveland for quite some time (can't wait to see if anything like this comes to Cedar Point or Geauga Lake one day).

BTW, back on topic. As for a Wolf 3D VR, well, that would all depend. I don't see the harm of that being done, but with today's technology, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if someone made a port that would make Wolf3D do that. As far as I can tell, that might not be likely to happen anytime soon. That's up in the air, I liked Wolf 3D in the day, but it's hard to say, with that source code out there, who knows what some creative minds would come up with?

Frenkel · 05-20-2004, 08:08 AM

Let's ask John Romero.

05-17-2004, 01:24 PM	#7
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: what\'s that \"virtualreality\" thing in wolf3d I believe it was a hook for something never developed. I'd have to look at it closer though, but I'm fairly sure that's right. Remember not everything is SUPPOSED to do something. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

05-19-2004, 09:19 AM	#11
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: what\'s that \"virtualreality\" thing in wolf3d Kennywood? My wife loves that place. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

05-15-2004, 09:02 PM	#1
Whistler	what\'s that \"virtualreality\" thing in wolf3d start the wolf3d with the "virtual" parameter seems to do nothing but crash DOS with calling int 60h. But what's that thing ?

05-16-2004, 05:18 AM	#2
Frenkel	Re: what\'s that \"virtualreality\" thing in wolf3d That's weird. I never noticed that. You can look in the source code to see what it's supposed to do. __________________ Groeten van Frenkel Visit us at the Official S&F Prod. Homepage

05-16-2004, 04:11 PM	#3
MarkJ	Re: what\'s that \"virtualreality\" thing in wolf3d You know, that's really wierd. I was thinking that exact same thing no more than a week ago <insert spooky music here>. From what I can remember (in the few miutes which I spent looking at it), it seems to skip all the usual game menues and demos and go straight into the game, but on mine it just crashes too. I guess if you were to just remove it, no one would notice. __________________ I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted the pay checks.

05-17-2004, 07:57 AM	#4
Whistler	Re: what\'s that \"virtualreality\" thing in wolf3d I have already read the source code, and actually I've found that in the code. In the code if we start the Wolf3d with "virtual" parameter, it won't switch to graphic mode and just call interrupt 60h to crash DOS. I don't know what that is.

05-17-2004, 09:31 AM	#5
Crosma	Re: what\'s that \"virtualreality\" thing in wolf3d Software interrupt 60h is used by DOS packet drivers for networking. Maybe it's some early networking code that doesn't work. That's my guess. __________________ (define love (lambda () (map conquer all)))

05-17-2004, 11:25 AM	#6
moron	Re: what\'s that \"virtualreality\" thing in wolf3d well I know rott had VR glases suport maby it was planed for wolf as well

05-18-2004, 07:47 AM	#8
Frenkel	Re: what\'s that \"virtualreality\" thing in wolf3d Has this anything to do with Wolfenstein VR (for a VR booth-type game)? __________________ Groeten van Frenkel Visit us at the Official S&F Prod. Homepage

05-19-2004, 12:49 AM	#10
Hudson	Re: what\'s that \"virtualreality\" thing in wolf3d I remember seeing a Duke Nukem 3D VR booth at Kennywood theme park once. That was awesome I just wish I knew more about it though __________________ Staying Frosty Since 09/06/07 - I love you Katie <3 “Software is like sex; it's better when it's free.” - Linus Torvalds “Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.” - Calvin & Hobbes [INSERT SYSTEM SPECS THAT NO ONE CARES ABOUT HERE]

05-19-2004, 07:02 PM	#12
8IronBob	Re: what\'s that \"virtualreality\" thing in wolf3d Oh yeah, I heard about Kennywood, one of my friends that I know originally comes from PA, so that's how I heard about that. As for the Duke 3D VR park, well, that might be too recent for him, he's been here in Cleveland for quite some time (can't wait to see if anything like this comes to Cedar Point or Geauga Lake one day). BTW, back on topic. As for a Wolf 3D VR, well, that would all depend. I don't see the harm of that being done, but with today's technology, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if someone made a port that would make Wolf3D do that. As far as I can tell, that might not be likely to happen anytime soon. That's up in the air, I liked Wolf 3D in the day, but it's hard to say, with that source code out there, who knows what some creative minds would come up with? __________________ PC Specs (a.k.a. "Galacticus Prime"): http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7Vk7FT

05-20-2004, 08:08 AM	#13
Frenkel	Re: what\'s that \"virtualreality\" thing in wolf3d Let's ask John Romero. __________________ Groeten van Frenkel Visit us at the Official S&F Prod. Homepage