'Blood' question

BarryD · 06-06-2003, 12:39 PM

I do! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

What spec is your machine? i'm not too sure what wall stacks are..something to do with room over room?

www.planetblood.com/qblood/ has a forum where you can talk about all things blood related.

Matteus · 06-06-2003, 12:44 PM

Monolith's official Blood page is still active at
Blood Web Page

The forums are active.

Devastator · 06-06-2003, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BarryD:
I do! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

What spec is your machine? i'm not too sure what wall stacks are..something to do with room over room?

www.planetblood.com/qblood/ has a forum where you can talk about all things blood related.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Wall stack is smth. like floor/ceiling stack but with wall. It is like camera in d3d but, you don't need to 'push it' and there is a wall except camera. that's all. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

My comp. is cel. 500 I didn't thought that blood will ever slow down it [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] and never thought that it will run without slowings on my old 485dx-2s [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

BarryD · 06-06-2003, 01:46 PM

I'm still not sure what it is...it's not a mirror is it? :\ That's the only thing in the game that causes me slowdown.

Sorry, i'm an idiot [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Devastator · 06-06-2003, 11:02 PM

Is there anybody who still plays blood???
If yes please help me. why wall property called wall stack slows down my machine like it is my old 486dx-2s ( yea that was cool thing. ).
And are there any ACTIVE blood webs?
Thanx for posting, if it will be... [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Reaper978 · 06-07-2003, 09:06 PM

sorry I cant help, but I would just like to say, blood was teh shit, next to d3d

Devastator · 06-07-2003, 11:31 PM

I have mailed example map to you. By the way what is your comp?

Devastator · 06-08-2003, 10:56 AM

You are right. It looks like shit now, but when it was released it was cool. It's pity that d3d doesn't have so improved build engine like blood. But people still play Duke and some Blood !

Wrathstalker · 06-08-2003, 03:25 PM

Hey could you mail me the example map too??? I've been wondering how you make those wall stacks..

BarryD · 06-09-2003, 08:00 AM

hey sorry about taking so long to reply, but I was away for the weekend.

I can't get blood to load the map, but I can open it in mapedit.

I don't think i've ever seen anything like that in blood before. Could you explain exactly what happens in that map?

BarryD · 06-09-2003, 12:28 PM

Ah got it. I see now.

Is there really any use for this?

Wrathstalker · 06-10-2003, 07:03 AM

Yup, play Bloodlines. I think they use it when you enter and when you leave the mental clinic on the first level.

Devastator · 06-10-2003, 10:29 AM

Yea I haven't been here a long time ( 1 day [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] )
too. So I worked a bit on this stacks and found a solution: To make wall stack properly. I'm building my school now... He HE hE it is 3-storeyed and it is difficult to make it without stacks: when you need to see a vindow form "group of sectors in void'

To wrathstalker: what's your mail? I cant access it form forums [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img]

Wrathstalker · 06-10-2003, 10:35 AM

oh, ok.. it's "[email protected]" [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Devastator · 06-10-2003, 12:40 PM

I have mailed it to you [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] Actually this is unbuggy example, but i still can't understand why it slows if you just copy a sector with stack. In this example it is useful to look it from mapedit in blood it is sensless but only in this map.

Wrathstalker · 06-10-2003, 03:50 PM

Ok, thanks.. I'll have a look at it!

BarryD · 06-10-2003, 04:54 PM

I thought on bloodlines they just used a standard floor/roof sector pass through thing on sloped sector.

Wrathstalker · 06-10-2003, 05:02 PM

You may be right... I haven't watched the bloodlines maps in mapedit so I'm not sure how they did it. But I just presumed it was a wall stack.

Devastator: I just thought of something... I use to have performance problems in Blood when putting transparent sprites in front of mirrors when palying in svga (640x 480 ->..)

What resolution are you playing in? Try switching to 320 * 200 and see if you still get framerate drops. I think mirrors and stacks work in the same way so that might be your problem..

[ 06-10-2003, 06:06 PM: Message edited by: Wrathstalker ]

BarryD · 06-10-2003, 08:26 PM

I checked it in mapedit because I noticed that something happened when you cross that sector in the game. Calebs view jumps upwards briefly as you pass through the sloped sector.

Devastator · 06-11-2003, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wrathstalker:
You may be right... I haven't watched the bloodlines maps in mapedit so I'm not sure how they did it. But I just presumed it was a wall stack.

Devastator: I just thought of something... I use to have performance problems in Blood when putting transparent sprites in front of mirrors when palying in svga (640x 480 ->..)

What resolution are you playing in? Try switching to 320 * 200 and see if you still get framerate drops. I think mirrors and stacks work in the same way so that might be your problem..

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">HEY!! I didn't say that !!! That is not my speech at all !

CombatGold1 · 06-12-2003, 01:18 PM

if u drop to 320 x 200 it improves framerate, not drops it [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] hehe a typo there Wrathstalker.

I play on 1024 x 768 (using ACR Setup) but I've now got my new hard disk so I installed Windows XP and Windows 98SE to it for MS-DOS games. All works fine apart from on certain parts of the game, it just quits for no reason like on the start of Toxic Dump, level 3 by the space marine and Critical Mass by the first set of stairs.

Devastator · 06-14-2003, 09:56 PM

Maybe you'll need to install echo patch.

Thanks all for help, I solved my problem and now everything goes well
THANKS!

Carger2000 · 06-17-2003, 10:46 AM

Blood echo patch? Something new?

cyborg · 06-17-2003, 11:18 PM

No - Ken posted the appropriate bytes to change ages ago.

Devastator · 06-17-2003, 11:31 PM

GUYS, I'm talking about dn echo patch, or I got smth wrong from CombatGold1's message.

06-06-2003, 12:39 PM	#1
BarryD	Re: \'Blood\' question I do! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] What spec is your machine? i'm not too sure what wall stacks are..something to do with room over room? www.planetblood.com/qblood/ has a forum where you can talk about all things blood related.

06-06-2003, 12:44 PM	#2
Matteus	Re: \'Blood\' question Monolith's official Blood page is still active at Blood Web Page The forums are active.

06-06-2003, 01:46 PM	#4
BarryD	Re: \'Blood\' question I'm still not sure what it is...it's not a mirror is it? :\ That's the only thing in the game that causes me slowdown. Sorry, i'm an idiot [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

06-06-2003, 11:02 PM	#5
Devastator	\'Blood\' question Is there anybody who still plays blood??? If yes please help me. why wall property called wall stack slows down my machine like it is my old 486dx-2s ( yea that was cool thing. ). And are there any ACTIVE blood webs? Thanx for posting, if it will be... [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] __________________ i like the Sun.

06-07-2003, 09:06 PM	#6
Reaper978	Re: \'Blood\' question sorry I cant help, but I would just like to say, blood was teh shit, next to d3d __________________ "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." -- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

06-07-2003, 11:31 PM	#7
Devastator	Re: \'Blood\' question I have mailed example map to you. By the way what is your comp? __________________ i like the Sun.

06-08-2003, 10:56 AM	#8
Devastator	Re: \'Blood\' question You are right. It looks like shit now, but when it was released it was cool. It's pity that d3d doesn't have so improved build engine like blood. But people still play Duke and some Blood ! __________________ i like the Sun.

06-08-2003, 03:25 PM	#9
Wrathstalker	Re: \'Blood\' question Hey could you mail me the example map too??? I've been wondering how you make those wall stacks..

06-09-2003, 08:00 AM	#10
BarryD	Re: \'Blood\' question hey sorry about taking so long to reply, but I was away for the weekend. I can't get blood to load the map, but I can open it in mapedit. I don't think i've ever seen anything like that in blood before. Could you explain exactly what happens in that map?

06-09-2003, 12:28 PM	#11
BarryD	Re: \'Blood\' question Ah got it. I see now. Is there really any use for this?

06-10-2003, 07:03 AM	#12
Wrathstalker	Re: \'Blood\' question Yup, play Bloodlines. I think they use it when you enter and when you leave the mental clinic on the first level.

06-10-2003, 10:29 AM	#13
Devastator	Re: \'Blood\' question Yea I haven't been here a long time ( 1 day [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] ) too. So I worked a bit on this stacks and found a solution: To make wall stack properly. I'm building my school now... He HE hE it is 3-storeyed and it is difficult to make it without stacks: when you need to see a vindow form "group of sectors in void' To wrathstalker: what's your mail? I cant access it form forums [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img] __________________ i like the Sun.

06-10-2003, 10:35 AM	#14
Wrathstalker	Re: \'Blood\' question oh, ok.. it's "[email protected]" [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

06-10-2003, 12:40 PM	#15
Devastator	Re: \'Blood\' question I have mailed it to you [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] Actually this is unbuggy example, but i still can't understand why it slows if you just copy a sector with stack. In this example it is useful to look it from mapedit in blood it is sensless but only in this map. __________________ i like the Sun.

06-10-2003, 03:50 PM	#16
Wrathstalker	Re: \'Blood\' question Ok, thanks.. I'll have a look at it!

06-10-2003, 04:54 PM	#17
BarryD	Re: \'Blood\' question I thought on bloodlines they just used a standard floor/roof sector pass through thing on sloped sector.

06-10-2003, 05:02 PM	#18
Wrathstalker	Re: \'Blood\' question You may be right... I haven't watched the bloodlines maps in mapedit so I'm not sure how they did it. But I just presumed it was a wall stack. Devastator: I just thought of something... I use to have performance problems in Blood when putting transparent sprites in front of mirrors when palying in svga (640x 480 ->..) What resolution are you playing in? Try switching to 320 * 200 and see if you still get framerate drops. I think mirrors and stacks work in the same way so that might be your problem.. [ 06-10-2003, 06:06 PM: Message edited by: Wrathstalker ]

06-10-2003, 08:26 PM	#19
BarryD	Re: \'Blood\' question I checked it in mapedit because I noticed that something happened when you cross that sector in the game. Calebs view jumps upwards briefly as you pass through the sloped sector.

06-12-2003, 01:18 PM	#21
CombatGold1	Re: \'Blood\' question if u drop to 320 x 200 it improves framerate, not drops it [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] hehe a typo there Wrathstalker. I play on 1024 x 768 (using ACR Setup) but I've now got my new hard disk so I installed Windows XP and Windows 98SE to it for MS-DOS games. All works fine apart from on certain parts of the game, it just quits for no reason like on the start of Toxic Dump, level 3 by the space marine and Critical Mass by the first set of stairs. __________________ Thanks, AdamR. Last edited by CombatGold1 on 2 Dec 2003 09:53; edited 541978961291 times in total.

06-14-2003, 09:56 PM	#22
Devastator	Re: \'Blood\' question Maybe you'll need to install echo patch. Thanks all for help, I solved my problem and now everything goes well THANKS! __________________ i like the Sun.

06-17-2003, 10:46 AM	#23
Carger2000	Re: \'Blood\' question Blood echo patch? Something new? __________________ Signature? No not now.

06-17-2003, 11:18 PM	#24
cyborg	Re: \'Blood\' question No - Ken posted the appropriate bytes to change ages ago. __________________ You lose.

06-17-2003, 11:31 PM	#25
Devastator	Re: \'Blood\' question GUYS, I'm talking about dn echo patch, or I got smth wrong from CombatGold1's message. __________________ i like the Sun.