''Save the world all by yourself'' line poll

Spyd · 09-20-2005, 05:08 AM

That last ''Joe's voice'' thread had me thinking about one of the best lines I heard in a game: ''What're you gonna do, pal? Save the world, all by yourself?''.

Then I remembered that almost all the content the last AAA games showed before release, was scrapped. Think about the Pinky bathroom scene in Doom III; or the wood pillar pendulum scene in Half Life II...

So I guess that that line is scrapped with all the rest of the DNF2001 trailer, as George said some time ago.

Hudson · 09-20-2005, 05:12 AM

I always loved that line.

hell-angel · 09-20-2005, 07:22 AM

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Hudson said:
I always loved that line.

Seconded.

Kristian Joensen · 09-20-2005, 08:00 AM

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Hudson said:
I always loved that line.

Yes I really really love that line. I also think that 3D Realms have kept the line provided the larger context it is part of has been kept. But they migth have removed that context, say maybe Duke doesn't encounter that EDF soldier at all anymore ?

Spyd · 09-20-2005, 08:57 AM

It don't have to be the exact same EDF soldier. It even don't have to be an EDF soldier. I would be fun too (for example) to put this line in the US President mouth...

Kristian Joensen · 09-20-2005, 09:15 AM

Yes, very much so, but the situation has to be rigth and maybe the situation wich led the EDF soldier to say that line has been removed for some other reason ?

I certainly don't hope so, but you never know.

SyntaxN · 09-20-2005, 09:28 AM

I´m sure that they will use it in the final game, it´s too cool to cut it

Cerberus_e · 09-20-2005, 09:35 AM

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Kristian Joensen said:
Yes, very much so, but the situation has to be rigth and maybe the situation wich led the EDF soldier to say that line has been removed for some other reason ?

I certainly don't hope so, but you never know.

there doesn't have to be a situation leading the NPC to say that, just duke walking close to him is enough.

Kristian Joensen · 09-20-2005, 09:37 AM

Yes but it could have been cut by virtue of the restart.

Kristian Joensen · 09-20-2005, 09:51 AM

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Yes, very much so, but the situation has to be rigth and maybe the situation wich led the EDF soldier to say that line has been removed for some other reason ?

I certainly don't hope so, but you never know.

there doesn't have to be a situation leading the NPC to say that, just duke walking close to him is enough.

I think you are misunderstanding me I was referring to the story, the EDF soldier must be there for Duke to walk close to him correct ?

There are certain things happening in the background wich make the soldiers response appropriate correct ?

Isn't it also correct that neither of those things are necessarily present in the current incarnation of DNF ?

The whole level with the EDF soldier migth have been removed.

Cerberus_e · 09-20-2005, 09:55 AM

George made a scripted sequences thread, which featured EDF soldiers... "and they had plenty of ideas", so...

Kristian Joensen · 09-20-2005, 10:14 AM

Yeah sure, I think it is in. I voted "I guess that they'll keep it", I was just given the reason why I voted that way instead of voting for "I'm sure this line will be in the game".

Kalki · 09-20-2005, 10:37 AM

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Kristian Joensen said:
There are certain things happening in the background wich make the soldiers response appropriate correct ?

We don't even know if there are going to be dialogue trees or verbal exchanges beyond 2 lines. So context may not be much of an issue. The scripted sequences thread called for really basic script ideas too.

Kristian Joensen · 09-20-2005, 10:45 AM

Well we actually DO know that the story will play a much larger role in DNF than in Duke3D and we also DO know that there indeed will be dialog in the game.

Drazula · 09-20-2005, 10:46 AM

Loved it...but gone.

Kristian Joensen · 09-20-2005, 11:12 AM

Why do you thing so ?

Guere · 09-20-2005, 11:33 AM

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Drazula said:
Loved it...but gone.

Think so too...hope they keep it in though but I'm afraid it won't be...

ultra tree 85! · 09-20-2005, 01:38 PM

I voted that I loved it. It was great, then after he says it you see him proven wrong as Duke kicks doors out, blows people away, and throws a grenade in a guys face.

I really hope That line will be in the game.

Micki! · 09-20-2005, 01:43 PM

I loved that line, and i hope it's still in...

09-20-2005, 01:59 PM

I liked it as well. Heck, i prefer FPS's that have you by yourself taking on the enemy all by yourself. I like the idea of "one man versus an army"

Kristian Joensen · 09-20-2005, 02:02 PM

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Drazula said:
Loved it...but gone.

Think so too...hope they keep it in though but I'm afraid it won't be...

This question is directed at you also or anybody else who doesn't think it will be in:

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Why do you think so ?

ultra tree 85! · 09-20-2005, 02:47 PM

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George made a scripted sequences thread, which featured EDF soldiers... "and they had plenty of ideas", so...

Yes, I hope the line was one of the ideas they had. we know the story in DNF will be very detailed, and they could easily put the line in, so I really hope it makes it.

Yatta · 09-20-2005, 04:23 PM

Good line, and appropriate for a trailer. Wouldn't care if it's not in the game.

Joe Siegler · 09-20-2005, 05:09 PM

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That last ''Joe's voice'' thread had me thinking about one of the best lines I heard in a game: ''What're you gonna do, pal? Save the world, all by yourself?''.

It's a good line - I also think the music around it also plays alot into the enjoyment of said line.

Water12356 · 09-20-2005, 07:26 PM

Great line, I hope they keep it.

09-20-2005, 09:22 PM

Who knows how many other great lines and music are in the game now

They've had long enough

Kalki · 09-20-2005, 09:50 PM

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That last ''Joe's voice'' thread had me thinking about one of the best lines I heard in a game: ''What're you gonna do, pal? Save the world, all by yourself?''.

It's a good line - I also think the music around it also plays alot into the enjoyment of said line.

Not to mention the facial expression of the NPC saying said line.

big fat lazy · 09-20-2005, 10:00 PM

I love that line, they must keep it! FFS!

Guere · 09-20-2005, 11:52 PM

This question is directed at you also or anybody else who doesn't think it will be in:

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Why do you think so ?

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Well It's a guess of course but, since they scrapped almost everything there is no reason to repeat it. And nobody really knows if the story changed alot when they restarted but I guess there were a few changes...and I just have the feeling the line is out. Most of the things you can do in the video are probably still in in some form but the characters/lines, well, they've probably changed a bit..

Micki! · 09-21-2005, 04:25 AM

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Kalki said:

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That last ''Joe's voice'' thread had me thinking about one of the best lines I heard in a game: ''What're you gonna do, pal? Save the world, all by yourself?''.

It's a good line - I also think the music around it also plays alot into the enjoyment of said line.

Not to mention the facial expression of the NPC saying said line.

... And the background with the EDF soldier dripping blood on the floor...

hell-angel · 09-21-2005, 04:31 AM

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Micki! said:

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That last ''Joe's voice'' thread had me thinking about one of the best lines I heard in a game: ''What're you gonna do, pal? Save the world, all by yourself?''.

It's a good line - I also think the music around it also plays alot into the enjoyment of said line.

Not to mention the facial expression of the NPC saying said line.

... And the background with the EDF soldier dripping blood on the floor...

all in all, one of the based scenes ever.

Malgon · 09-21-2005, 06:25 AM

It looked very cool, and the EDF soldier who limped and also dropped blood was ahead of its time and still a detail that no other game really has. I hope they have a similar scene still in.

Beelze · 09-21-2005, 01:12 PM

As has been concluded a few times before, it would serve as a good ego booster (depending, of course, on what Duke's response, if any, is). I hope it's still in, and I think it'd be a dumb move to scrap it just because we've already heard it a long time ago. Let us experience it first-hand after some hours of playing and it should have even more of an impact.

Kristian Joensen · 09-21-2005, 01:43 PM

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Guere said:
This question is directed at you also or anybody else who doesn't think it will be in:

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Kristian Joensen said:
Why do you think so ?

Well It's a guess of course but, since they scrapped almost everything there is no reason to repeat it. And nobody really knows if the story changed alot when they restarted but I guess there were a few changes...and I just have the feeling the line is out. Most of the things you can do in the video are probably still in in some form but the characters/lines, well, they've probably changed a bit..

"There is no reason to repeat it" ? Well anything wich is back in IS redone simply because of the huge technical advance made through the last 4 years and implemented in DNF as a result of the restart. This is also implied from the content restart. Duke himself for example was remodeled, you say that characters and lines have changed a bit.

Well, sure but that doesn't mean that most or all of them have been removed, look at the opening from the E3 2005 trailer of Prey and compare it to the one from E3 1998, that is a 7 years difference, with DNF we are only talking about a 4 years difference.

With Prey we have went from Talon Brave to Tommy Hawk, hell the original game didn't have a lovestory that is a pretty big difference, but ALL the lines from the E3 2005 trailer are from 1998(and maybe even earlier).

KaiserSoze · 09-21-2005, 04:11 PM

hope the line still makes it in.

avatar_58 · 09-21-2005, 05:11 PM

I giggled when I first heard that line, and the way it then exploded into action (perfect movie style trailer) was great.

Guere · 09-21-2005, 11:53 PM

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With Prey we have went from Talon Brave to Tommy Hawk, hell the original game didn't have a lovestory that is a pretty big difference, but ALL the lines from the E3 2005 trailer are from 1998(and maybe even earlier).

Hmm true, I'm no expert but I was just had thsi feeling it wasn't done. Maybe they haven't recorded the final voices yet. Maybe at the moment 3DR didn't realize it was a great line but with this thread they'll recognize it's importance

Hm, that's alot of maybe's

Anyway, we're just can't be certain of it but I hope you're right

Kristian Joensen · 09-22-2005, 04:45 AM

Yes, when they made the E3 2005 trailer they hadn't recorded the voices yet, but I am sure they haven't removed the awesome lines from the 2005 trailer.

Spyd · 09-22-2005, 04:51 AM

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Kristian Joensen said:
Yes, when they made the E3 2005 trailer they hadn't recorded the voices yet, but I am sure they haven't removed the awesome lines from the 2005 trailer.

I'm the only one totally confused by this post?

hell-angel · 09-22-2005, 05:28 AM

I think he meant to say 2001

And I hope you are right.

09-20-2005, 01:59 PM	#20
I-Ninja Guest	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll I liked it as well. Heck, i prefer FPS's that have you by yourself taking on the enemy all by yourself. I like the idea of "one man versus an army"

09-20-2005, 09:22 PM	#26
Michelangelo Guest	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll Who knows how many other great lines and music are in the game now They've had long enough

09-20-2005, 05:08 AM	#1
Spyd	\'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll That last ''Joe's voice'' thread had me thinking about one of the best lines I heard in a game: ''What're you gonna do, pal? Save the world, all by yourself?''. Then I remembered that almost all the content the last AAA games showed before release, was scrapped. Think about the Pinky bathroom scene in Doom III; or the wood pillar pendulum scene in Half Life II... So I guess that that line is scrapped with all the rest of the DNF2001 trailer, as George said some time ago.

09-20-2005, 05:12 AM	#2
Hudson	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll I always loved that line. __________________ Staying Frosty Since 09/06/07 - I love you Katie <3 “Software is like sex; it's better when it's free.” - Linus Torvalds “Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.” - Calvin & Hobbes [INSERT SYSTEM SPECS THAT NO ONE CARES ABOUT HERE]

09-20-2005, 08:57 AM	#5
Spyd	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll It don't have to be the exact same EDF soldier. It even don't have to be an EDF soldier. I would be fun too (for example) to put this line in the US President mouth...

09-20-2005, 09:15 AM	#6
Kristian Joensen	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll Yes, very much so, but the situation has to be rigth and maybe the situation wich led the EDF soldier to say that line has been removed for some other reason ? I certainly don't hope so, but you never know. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

09-20-2005, 09:28 AM	#7
SyntaxN	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll I´m sure that they will use it in the final game, it´s too cool to cut it

09-20-2005, 09:37 AM	#9
Kristian Joensen	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll Yes but it could have been cut by virtue of the restart. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

09-20-2005, 09:55 AM	#11
Cerberus_e	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll George made a scripted sequences thread, which featured EDF soldiers... "and they had plenty of ideas", so...

09-20-2005, 10:14 AM	#12
Kristian Joensen	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll Yeah sure, I think it is in. I voted "I guess that they'll keep it", I was just given the reason why I voted that way instead of voting for "I'm sure this line will be in the game". __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

09-20-2005, 10:45 AM	#14
Kristian Joensen	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll Well we actually DO know that the story will play a much larger role in DNF than in Duke3D and we also DO know that there indeed will be dialog in the game. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

09-20-2005, 10:46 AM	#15
Drazula	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll Loved it...but gone. __________________ "I've been trying to change the world for years, but they just won't give me the source code." - Drazula

09-20-2005, 11:12 AM	#16
Kristian Joensen	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll Why do you thing so ? __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

09-20-2005, 01:38 PM	#18
ultra tree 85!	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll I voted that I loved it. It was great, then after he says it you see him proven wrong as Duke kicks doors out, blows people away, and throws a grenade in a guys face. I really hope That line will be in the game. __________________ Duke Nukem Forever will be released in 2010. The community will realize its dream of playing the greatest game of all time. :)

09-20-2005, 01:43 PM	#19
Micki!	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll I loved that line, and i hope it's still in... __________________ A true genius does not need boundaries such as 'common sense'

09-20-2005, 04:23 PM	#23
Yatta	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll Good line, and appropriate for a trailer. Wouldn't care if it's not in the game. __________________ Visit Duke4.net - The largest Duke Nukem fan community on the net!

09-20-2005, 07:26 PM	#25
Water12356	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll Great line, I hope they keep it. __________________ "Psycho Mantis locking your doors, your fridge, shutting off your air conditioner, and clogging your toilet sure beats reading some crap off a memory card." - Mr. Blud "Men trade whatever they have for sex and women trade sex for whatever they want. That may be unromantic but theres truth to it." - Nessus

09-20-2005, 10:00 PM	#28
big fat lazy	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll I love that line, they must keep it! FFS!

09-21-2005, 06:25 AM	#32
Malgon	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll It looked very cool, and the EDF soldier who limped and also dropped blood was ahead of its time and still a detail that no other game really has. I hope they have a similar scene still in. __________________ -Most wanted games: Doom 4, Tomb Raider, Beyond Good and Evil 2

09-21-2005, 01:12 PM	#33
Beelze	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll As has been concluded a few times before, it would serve as a good ego booster (depending, of course, on what Duke's response, if any, is). I hope it's still in, and I think it'd be a dumb move to scrap it just because we've already heard it a long time ago. Let us experience it first-hand after some hours of playing and it should have even more of an impact.

09-21-2005, 04:11 PM	#35
KaiserSoze	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll hope the line still makes it in. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JjimMO2SdE

09-21-2005, 05:11 PM	#36
avatar_58	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll I giggled when I first heard that line, and the way it then exploded into action (perfect movie style trailer) was great.

09-22-2005, 04:45 AM	#38
Kristian Joensen	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll Yes, when they made the E3 2005 trailer they hadn't recorded the voices yet, but I am sure they haven't removed the awesome lines from the 2005 trailer. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

09-22-2005, 05:28 AM	#40
hell-angel	Re: \'\'Save the world all by yourself\'\' line poll I think he meant to say 2001 And I hope you are right.