Max Payne 2 announced

The Viper · 05-22-2002, 12:51 PM

not a big surprise but here you go
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/020522/222459_1.html

CixrTyx · 05-22-2002, 01:14 PM

damn you 2mins before i could post! [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Joe Siegler · 05-22-2002, 01:49 PM

The much anticipated sequel to last year's smash hit Max Payne has been announced at E3 today, and guess what? It's "Max Payne 2". [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] Take 2 announced today that Rockstar Games, in conjunction with Remedy Entertainment, has begun development of Max Payne 2, a sequel to the blockbuster hit Max Payne. 3D Realms will be producing Max Payne 2, as we did with the original Max Payne.

Originally developed for the PC by Remedy Entertainment and produced by 3D Realms, Max Payne debuted as an award winning and top selling PC game in July 2001. PlayStation®2 and Xbox(TM) versions of the game were shipped in December 2001, and both achieved immediate critical and commercial success. Global shipments of the Max Payne franchise have exceeded 2.75 million units to date.

Max Payne 2 is expected to ship in calendar 2003.

That's a quote from the full press release, which can be viewed on our site. Fans of Max Payne will be glad to know that there will be some continuing adventures for Max!

The Viper · 05-22-2002, 01:52 PM

except they knew that already after reading the manual and the end credits [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
the real surprise is that RMD sold all the rights to take 2, including Max FX

bubba16409 · 05-22-2002, 02:24 PM

WOAH ! ! ! Am I reading this right ? No, I am not talking about max payne 2, but the fact that Joe gave a release date for a game that is in development by 3drealms ?

I almost fell over when I read there was an aproximate release date for one of their games.

Anyways MP2 is going to rule. Loved the first and am going to love the second.

mysteryperfecta · 05-22-2002, 02:32 PM

Remedy and Apogee collected a cool $10 million in exchange for the rights. Congrats.

My question is, what does "in conjuction with" mean, in terms of MP2 being developed by Rockstar in conjunction with Remedy? Is it a console/pc split like the original Max Payne?

05-22-2002, 02:49 PM

Can I pre-order yet?
hahahahahaha

[img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img]

Joe Siegler · 05-22-2002, 03:13 PM

I didn't give anything - I just copied a Take2 press release. 3DR hasn't actually announced it. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

Triste · 05-22-2002, 03:20 PM

"...perpetual license to utilize proprietary technologies, including the Max Payne game engine and associated "Bullet Time(TM)" technology..."
Excuse my poor english, but does that mean they bought the engine or that they bought rights to use it ?

chrisg · 05-22-2002, 03:23 PM

i bought the first one enjoyed it and if remedy is able to improve it for the sequel, i will happily buy that one as well. To me personally Improvement means more than 10 hours of gameplay and a better AI than just wait until i see max and then run for him guns blazing. But to each his own. I don't want to start a discussion here. Other than that best of luck for your next game [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] .

05-22-2002, 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by Triste:
"...perpetual license to utilize proprietary technologies, including the Max Payne game engine and associated "Bullet Time(TM)" technology..."
Excuse my poor english, but does that mean they bought the engine or that they bought rights to use it ?

Take two now owns the max payne name and story and has right to use it. But they don't own the Max-FX engine, they can use it all they want though.

biXen · 05-22-2002, 04:31 PM

Yup, well, Mad Onion also had the rights to use the engine, so let's hope Rockstar doesn't give some idiots the right to use it for something...

Bushido · 05-22-2002, 05:03 PM

Awesome! Max Payne was and still is the best action game I've ever played! Nothing puts you in a John Woo movie like Max Payne!

PinpointMarxMan · 05-22-2002, 05:20 PM

Yep, just read this on Gamespots E3 coverage, I loved Max Payne and im sure Max Payne 2 is going to kick ass as well, I wonder how the game will start....

sawn_off · 05-22-2002, 05:42 PM

Boy, we all sound like we just got Max Payne again. So, Remedy's working with Rockstar, eh? And Rockstar made Grand Theft Auto 3, right? I'll be the n00b here and say "can u ride in carz in mp2?".

helstegt · 05-22-2002, 05:48 PM

Joe, as I read that press release, 3D Realms will have no involvement in Max Payne 2 at all. Is that correct?

Homoludens · 05-22-2002, 09:46 PM

w00t, w00t, w00t!!!!

Oh, and did I mention w00t?

George Broussard · 05-22-2002, 11:19 PM

>>Remedy and Apogee collected a cool $10 million in exchange for the rights. Congrats.

Heh, re-read the press release [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] The stock alone is worth about $25 million now. All told, the deal should generate over $40 million when it's all said and done.

nyne · 05-22-2002, 11:28 PM

40 million!! [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

3D Realms....short on cash...?

I think not!

biXen · 05-23-2002, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by George Broussard:
>>Remedy and Apogee collected a cool $10 million in exchange for the rights. Congrats.

Heh, re-read the press release [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] The stock alone is worth about $25 million now. All told, the deal should generate over $40 million when it's all said and done.

Jesus H Christ. There's no need to tell anyone that Take 2 thinks that Max Payne is the wave of the future... If you talk to them, tell them they can buy my fansite for some hundred thousands, on sale... [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

mysteryperfecta · 05-23-2002, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by George Broussard:
>>Remedy and Apogee collected a cool $10 million in exchange for the rights. Congrats.

Heh, re-read the press release [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] The stock alone is worth about $25 million now. All told, the deal should generate over $40 million when it's all said and done.

I meant $10 million, give or take $30 million.

Joe Siegler · 05-23-2002, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by helstegt:
Joe, as I read that press release, 3D Realms will have no involvement in Max Payne 2 at all. Is that correct?

Wrong. We are producing Max Payne II the same way we produced Max Payne I. I covered this on the front page of the 3DR site.

05-23-2002, 02:39 PM

So both Rockstar and Remedy are developing the sequel. Now does that mean that Remedy's importance in the project has decreased?

Is Rockstar now making the biggest decisions?

fractalgp · 05-23-2002, 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by Joe3DR:
Originally developed for the PC by [...]

Am I reading stuff into this, when I'm thinking this will be primarily a console release, then a PC release? Rockstar is primarily a console developer, no?

I'm so goddamned sick and tired of the "nextgen consoles" getting all the good games first.

[ 05-23-2002, 04:08 PM: Message edited by: fractalgp ]

Co11 · 05-23-2002, 03:19 PM

Rockstar did announce that they will not be having a pc release until 2004... Hopefully what will happen is that rockstar will have a hand on the console versions and remedy will do the pc ones.. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Joe Siegler · 05-23-2002, 03:29 PM

To my knowledge, Max Payne 2 is a PC game first.

sawn_off · 05-23-2002, 07:30 PM

When will there be a site? Will it have Multiplayer? Will you be able to Drive cars? Will it be like Max Payne + Driver 2 + Grand Theft Auto 3? When is it coming out? Ghaa!

Heheh, this may be what we'll be induring with n00bs. But I WOULD like a site.

RollingBrass · 05-23-2002, 08:25 PM

Rockstar isn't a PC game developer. If I'm not mistaken, DMA made all the GTA games. Rockstar was either the publisher (As a sub-division of Take2) or the console-porter.
Now, where was I? Ah...a few questions:

What's the release date?
When will you release a screenshot?
Will you add multiplayer to the game?
How do I get out of the burning restaurant in the sequel?
What about moving?!

[ 05-23-2002, 09:28 PM: Message edited by: RollingBrass ]

SkavenRMD · 05-23-2002, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Am I reading stuff into this, when I'm thinking this will be primarily a console release, then a PC release? Rockstar is primarily a console developer, no?

Max Payne 2 is primarily a PC game.

Rockstar Canada will take care of the PlayStation 2 port like last time, and Rockstar NY provides us with authentic source material (voice actor performances, photos). We can have a bit higher production values this time around, so players (and especially reviewers) no more have to endure a cast of characters that look like Finnish geeks and their girlfriends. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

biXen · 05-24-2002, 02:24 AM

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Originally posted by SkavenRMD:
Rockstar Canada will take care of the PlayStation 2 port like last time, and Rockstar NY provides us with authentic source material (voice actor performances, photos). We can have a bit higher production values this time around, so players (and especially reviewers) no more have to endure a cast of characters that look like Finnish geeks and their girlfriends. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

So you WON'T farm the work on Max Payne 2 out to cheap Korean programmers? I sure as hell hope not, or I'm coming up there to teach you a lesson. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

But it looks to me like Remedy now can afford to do two projects at once, so I bet you are putting the new mappers and stuff on Max Payne 2 and working on some suppa leet Doom III beater yourself. Carmack hasn't got a chance vs the gang of suppa leet Finnish demosceners [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] When he's wasting time in his Ferrari you boys be working on da bomb game...

And if it includes multiplayer in any way... I'll kill ya... [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

The Viper · 05-24-2002, 02:29 AM

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Originally posted by biXen:
Carmack hasn't got a chance vs the gang of suppa leet Finnish demosceners [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] When he's wasting time in his Ferrari you boys be working on da bomb game...

Carmack is still the guru. Just look at that new DOOM 3 vid. I am absolutely certain that Max 2 cannot compete with the tech.

biXen · 05-24-2002, 03:03 AM

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Originally posted by The Viper:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by biXen:
Carmack hasn't got a chance vs the gang of suppa leet Finnish demosceners [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] When he's wasting time in his Ferrari you boys be working on da bomb game...

Carmack is still the guru. Just look at that new DOOM 3 vid. I am absolutely certain that Max 2 cannot compete with the tech.<hr /></blockquote>I didn't say Max 2 you fool, I said "the other new project"... which they sure as hell can afford to work on [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

BobTheDog · 05-24-2002, 03:08 AM

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Originally posted by SkavenRMD:
...no more have to endure a cast of characters that look like Finnish geeks and their girlfriends. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Hehe. Will Payne still look a bit constipated? [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

fractalgp · 05-24-2002, 03:10 AM

Yeah, Markus Stein was making real 3D engines when Carmack was loved for his 2.5D Wolf/Doom engines.

Go Stone! Stone! Stone! [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

(meant as a reply to bixen's post)

[ 05-24-2002, 04:24 AM: Message edited by: fractalgp ]

The Viper · 05-24-2002, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by biXen:
I didn't say Max 2 you fool, I said "the other new project"... which they sure as hell can afford to work on [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

yeah whatever. If "the other game" comes out 2003 I'm certain it can't compete with the DOOM 3 tech.

But knowing RMD there's no way the would release 2 games in the same year [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

SkavenRMD · 05-24-2002, 04:25 AM

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Hehe. Will Payne still look a bit constipated? [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

Of course we have to be faithful to the true spirit of the original. We just need to find an actor who has developed the facial musculature for this demanding task. [img]graemlins/hhg.gif[/img]

Ninja · 05-24-2002, 05:18 AM

Faithful?

/me tries to imagine the legions of Max Payne fans demanding that the constipated face of Max return in the sequel or else...

Sorry Skaven, I just don't see that happening [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

Are any major tech updates (I mean like much higher polygon counts etc) planned for Max Payne 2?

05-24-2002, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Viper:
Carmack is still the guru. Just look at that new DOOM 3 vid. I am absolutely certain that Max 2 cannot compete with the tech.

No he's not. Doom III is just another polygon pusher. The secrets in the content.

The Viper · 05-24-2002, 05:27 AM

and that is not true. It's not the amount of polygons that matter in DOOM3, it's the amazing lighting system.

05-24-2002, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Viper:
and that is not true. It's not the amount of polygons that matter in DOOM3, it's the amazing lighting system.

C'mon. You know what I mean. Further more that lighting system means squat without decent content. I'll go so far as to say Doom III is probably the least impressive piece of junk to come out of Id for some time. It's also a waste of space to launch it at something so mundane as Doom. I'm not just saying that. I'm actually pretty annoyed that so many people have rolled over so easily.

05-22-2002, 01:49 PM	#3
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: Max Payne 2 announced The much anticipated sequel to last year's smash hit Max Payne has been announced at E3 today, and guess what? It's "Max Payne 2". [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] Take 2 announced today that Rockstar Games, in conjunction with Remedy Entertainment, has begun development of Max Payne 2, a sequel to the blockbuster hit Max Payne. 3D Realms will be producing Max Payne 2, as we did with the original Max Payne. Originally developed for the PC by Remedy Entertainment and produced by 3D Realms, Max Payne debuted as an award winning and top selling PC game in July 2001. PlayStation®2 and Xbox(TM) versions of the game were shipped in December 2001, and both achieved immediate critical and commercial success. Global shipments of the Max Payne franchise have exceeded 2.75 million units to date. Max Payne 2 is expected to ship in calendar 2003. That's a quote from the full press release, which can be viewed on our site. Fans of Max Payne will be glad to know that there will be some continuing adventures for Max! __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

05-22-2002, 02:49 PM	#7
Guest Guest	Re: Max Payne 2 announced Can I pre-order yet? hahahahahaha [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img]

05-22-2002, 03:13 PM	#8
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: Max Payne 2 announced I didn't give anything - I just copied a Take2 press release. 3DR hasn't actually announced it. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

05-23-2002, 02:39 PM	#23
Guest Guest	Re: Max Payne 2 announced So both Rockstar and Remedy are developing the sequel. Now does that mean that Remedy's importance in the project has decreased? Is Rockstar now making the biggest decisions?

05-23-2002, 03:29 PM	#26
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: Max Payne 2 announced To my knowledge, Max Payne 2 is a PC game first. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

05-22-2002, 12:51 PM	#1
The Viper	Max Payne 2 announced not a big surprise but here you go http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/020522/222459_1.html

05-22-2002, 01:14 PM	#2
CixrTyx	Re: Max Payne 2 announced damn you 2mins before i could post! [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

05-22-2002, 01:52 PM	#4
The Viper	Re: Max Payne 2 announced except they knew that already after reading the manual and the end credits [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] the real surprise is that RMD sold all the rights to take 2, including Max FX

05-22-2002, 02:24 PM	#5
bubba16409	Re: Max Payne 2 announced WOAH ! ! ! Am I reading this right ? No, I am not talking about max payne 2, but the fact that Joe gave a release date for a game that is in development by 3drealms ? I almost fell over when I read there was an aproximate release date for one of their games. Anyways MP2 is going to rule. Loved the first and am going to love the second.

05-22-2002, 02:32 PM	#6
mysteryperfecta	Re: Max Payne 2 announced Remedy and Apogee collected a cool $10 million in exchange for the rights. Congrats. My question is, what does "in conjuction with" mean, in terms of MP2 being developed by Rockstar in conjunction with Remedy? Is it a console/pc split like the original Max Payne? __________________ "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.” Thomas Jefferson

05-22-2002, 03:20 PM	#9
Triste	Re: Max Payne 2 announced "...perpetual license to utilize proprietary technologies, including the Max Payne game engine and associated "Bullet Time(TM)" technology..." Excuse my poor english, but does that mean they bought the engine or that they bought rights to use it ? __________________ stop staring at me

05-22-2002, 03:23 PM	#10
chrisg	Re: Max Payne 2 announced i bought the first one enjoyed it and if remedy is able to improve it for the sequel, i will happily buy that one as well. To me personally Improvement means more than 10 hours of gameplay and a better AI than just wait until i see max and then run for him guns blazing. But to each his own. I don't want to start a discussion here. Other than that best of luck for your next game [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] .

05-22-2002, 04:31 PM	#12
biXen	Re: Max Payne 2 announced Yup, well, Mad Onion also had the rights to use the engine, so let's hope Rockstar doesn't give some idiots the right to use it for something... __________________ bee-digital - my new web dev blog Max Payne fan site Alan Wake fan site

05-22-2002, 05:03 PM	#13
Bushido	Re: Max Payne 2 announced Awesome! Max Payne was and still is the best action game I've ever played! Nothing puts you in a John Woo movie like Max Payne!

05-22-2002, 05:20 PM	#14
PinpointMarxMan	Re: Max Payne 2 announced Yep, just read this on Gamespots E3 coverage, I loved Max Payne and im sure Max Payne 2 is going to kick ass as well, I wonder how the game will start....

05-22-2002, 05:42 PM	#15
sawn_off	Re: Max Payne 2 announced Boy, we all sound like we just got Max Payne again. So, Remedy's working with Rockstar, eh? And Rockstar made Grand Theft Auto 3, right? I'll be the n00b here and say "can u ride in carz in mp2?".

05-22-2002, 05:48 PM	#16
helstegt	Re: Max Payne 2 announced Joe, as I read that press release, 3D Realms will have no involvement in Max Payne 2 at all. Is that correct?

05-22-2002, 09:46 PM	#17
Homoludens	Re: Max Payne 2 announced w00t, w00t, w00t!!!! Oh, and did I mention w00t?

05-22-2002, 11:19 PM	#18
George Broussard	Re: Max Payne 2 announced >>Remedy and Apogee collected a cool $10 million in exchange for the rights. Congrats. Heh, re-read the press release [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] The stock alone is worth about $25 million now. All told, the deal should generate over $40 million when it's all said and done.

05-22-2002, 11:28 PM	#19
nyne	Re: Max Payne 2 announced 40 million!! [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] 3D Realms....short on cash...? I think not! __________________ we all get the gods we deserve

05-23-2002, 03:19 PM	#25
Co11	Re: Max Payne 2 announced Rockstar did announce that they will not be having a pc release until 2004... Hopefully what will happen is that rockstar will have a hand on the console versions and remedy will do the pc ones.. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] __________________ For all your Biscuit cleaver needs, go to www.biscuitcleaver.com

05-23-2002, 07:30 PM	#27
sawn_off	Re: Max Payne 2 announced When will there be a site? Will it have Multiplayer? Will you be able to Drive cars? Will it be like Max Payne + Driver 2 + Grand Theft Auto 3? When is it coming out? Ghaa! Heheh, this may be what we'll be induring with n00bs. But I WOULD like a site.

05-23-2002, 08:25 PM	#28
RollingBrass	Re: Max Payne 2 announced Rockstar isn't a PC game developer. If I'm not mistaken, DMA made all the GTA games. Rockstar was either the publisher (As a sub-division of Take2) or the console-porter. Now, where was I? Ah...a few questions: </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">What's the release date?</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">When will you release a screenshot?</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Will you add multiplayer to the game?</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">How do I get out of the burning restaurant in the sequel?</font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">What about moving?! </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> [ 05-23-2002, 09:28 PM: Message edited by: RollingBrass ]

05-24-2002, 03:10 AM	#34
fractalgp	Re: Max Payne 2 announced Yeah, Markus Stein was making real 3D engines when Carmack was loved for his 2.5D Wolf/Doom engines. Go Stone! Stone! Stone! [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] (meant as a reply to bixen's post) [ 05-24-2002, 04:24 AM: Message edited by: fractalgp ]
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05-24-2002, 05:18 AM	#37
Ninja	Re: Max Payne 2 announced Faithful? /me tries to imagine the legions of Max Payne fans demanding that the constipated face of Max return in the sequel or else... Sorry Skaven, I just don't see that happening [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] Are any major tech updates (I mean like much higher polygon counts etc) planned for Max Payne 2?

05-24-2002, 05:27 AM	#39
The Viper	Re: Max Payne 2 announced and that is not true. It's not the amount of polygons that matter in DOOM3, it's the amazing lighting system.