Is this true?

08-08-2000, 12:50 PM

I can't remember where I found it, but once I saw a website that had a strange biography that was sorta like this:

William (Billy) J. Blazkowicz born in 192x of 2 Euroupean Immigrants, in 194x B.J. Became a spy, and fought the Nazis, in the 60's he got married and had a son, his son went of to california and became a talk show host. Because his last name was too long, he changed it to Blaze. He then had a son with an IQ of 314 that signs his papers with the initials B. Blaze.

Mine osn't as accurate as the story I saw, but what this is trying to say is that B.J. Blazkowicz from Wolfenstien 3D is Commander keen's Grandpa, and it makes sense, is this true???

Flaose · 08-08-2000, 01:13 PM

Tis true, tis true!

Theseus314 · 08-08-2000, 01:56 PM

"He then had a son with an IQ of 314 that signs his papers with the initials B. Blaze"

You know his son is also known as commander Keen

Joe Siegler · 08-08-2000, 02:11 PM

I think the original text comes from either the Wolfenstein 3D manual, or the hint book.

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08-08-2000, 03:28 PM

Thanx guys so it's really true!

Crosma · 08-08-2000, 03:59 PM

Every Id game is linked together through characters somehow.

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08-08-2000, 04:15 PM

Really? what others?

Flaose · 08-08-2000, 07:35 PM

It was in the Wolf3D hintbook if my memory serves me correctly (yeah right

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08-13-2000, 09:13 PM

BTW, Rise of the Triad was originally supposed to be Wolfenstein 3d 2, and the .wad file format was barrowed from ID software. (Correct me if i'm wrong)

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Crosma · 08-14-2000, 12:55 PM

WAD is just a technique for storing several files as one (much like Westwoods MIX). I believe the format was taken from ID.

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08-14-2000, 12:58 PM

I don't recall .wad in ROTT.

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08-14-2000, 01:36 PM

Yes ROTT very definately uses the WAD file format and it was borrowed from Id with their consent. Various other bits of Doom type code also ended up in ROTT too according to Mark Dochtermann.

The ROTT WAD is used primarily for storing graphics, sound and music. The RTL file (ROTT LEVEL File?) contains the 2D map data.

Both the WAD file format and the RTL file format are documented and fairly easy to work with.

Tony

08-14-2000, 02:13 PM

Moonbuzz <----Our wines leave you nothing to hope for (misunderstandabilationist)

Looks like you better pop a cork and start drinkin'

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Joe Siegler · 08-14-2000, 02:53 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Crosma:
Every Id game is linked together through characters somehow.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now that is not true.

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Theseus314 · 08-14-2000, 06:30 PM

Appart from crystal caves and the pre-apogee games, I can't think of an example where this doesn't hold true

helstegt · 08-16-2000, 07:53 AM

The Quake games doesn't even have a character...

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Flaose · 08-16-2000, 09:34 AM

Sure they do! The Quake guy!

08-16-2000, 01:36 PM

Lets test your theory.

Commander Keen was the first, OK.
Wolf3d: Keen's Grandfather
DOOM: No connection to others
DOOM II: same characters as DOOM (duh) Wolf3d level, dead Keens
Quake: Dopefish
Quake II: Dopefish
Quake 3: Arena: Dopefish?, DOOM guy as a character.
so, DOOM has no connection to other games. and apart from the Dopefish, neither do the Quakes.

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Theseus314 · 08-16-2000, 02:34 PM

"and apart from the Dopefish, neither do the Quakes"

So appart from having a connection, it doesn't have a connection yeah?

Crosma · 08-16-2000, 11:56 PM

Dopefish is in Quake

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helstegt · 08-17-2000, 08:15 AM

And there wasn't many Catacomb 3-D references in Keen either

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08-17-2000, 09:13 AM

Hey, I just founf out that they're really making Keen for game Boy Color, and Id's plans on Making return to Castle Wolfenstien, look at this link: http://pocket.ign.com/news/22671.html

08-17-2000, 04:49 PM

The Dopefish is just a cameo appearance, saying that those games are "limked ny characters" is really pushing it, it's like saying that all ID games have John and Adrian Carmack in their credits, and also the ID logo on them.

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08-08-2000, 12:50 PM	#1
Guest Guest	Is this true? I can't remember where I found it, but once I saw a website that had a strange biography that was sorta like this: William (Billy) J. Blazkowicz born in 192x of 2 Euroupean Immigrants, in 194x B.J. Became a spy, and fought the Nazis, in the 60's he got married and had a son, his son went of to california and became a talk show host. Because his last name was too long, he changed it to Blaze. He then had a son with an IQ of 314 that signs his papers with the initials B. Blaze. Mine osn't as accurate as the story I saw, but what this is trying to say is that B.J. Blazkowicz from Wolfenstien 3D is Commander keen's Grandpa, and it makes sense, is this true???

08-08-2000, 02:11 PM	#4
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: Is this true? I think the original text comes from either the Wolfenstein 3D manual, or the hint book. ------------------ Joe Siegler - Webmaster, 3D Realms --- Got a Duke Nukem Forever Question? GO READ THE FAQ BEFORE YOU POST ABOUT IT! Click here for info on how to use this UBB __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

08-08-2000, 03:28 PM	#5
Guest Guest	Re: Is this true? Thanx guys so it's really true!

08-08-2000, 04:15 PM	#7
Guest Guest	Re: Is this true? Really? what others?

08-13-2000, 09:13 PM	#9
Guest Guest	Re: Is this true? BTW, Rise of the Triad was originally supposed to be Wolfenstein 3d 2, and the .wad file format was barrowed from ID software. (Correct me if i'm wrong) ------------------ Thats no ordinary Wang. /\|\ Message reviewed by BullFrog. /\|\

08-08-2000, 01:13 PM	#2
Flaose	Re: Is this true? Tis true, tis true!

08-08-2000, 01:56 PM	#3
Theseus314	Re: Is this true? "He then had a son with an IQ of 314 that signs his papers with the initials B. Blaze" You know his son is also known as commander Keen

08-08-2000, 03:59 PM	#6
Crosma	Re: Is this true? Every Id game is linked together through characters somehow. ------------------ Hell Is... comic strip. Email: spirogyra@crosma.co.uk ICQ: 40937169 AIM: Crosma1 MSN: crosma@hotmail.com __________________ (define love (lambda () (map conquer all)))

08-08-2000, 07:35 PM	#8
Flaose	Re: Is this true? It was in the Wolf3D hintbook if my memory serves me correctly (yeah right )

08-14-2000, 12:55 PM	#10
Crosma	Re: Is this true? WAD is just a technique for storing several files as one (much like Westwoods MIX). I believe the format was taken from ID. ------------------ Hell Is... comic strip. Email: spirogyra@crosma.co.uk ICQ: 40937169 AIM: Crosma1 MSN: crosma@hotmail.com __________________ (define love (lambda () (map conquer all)))

08-14-2000, 12:58 PM	#11
Guest Guest	Re: Is this true? I don't recall .wad in ROTT. ------------------ "It wasn't supposed to turn out like this.." (Sebastian "Doyle" Krist) ROTT2: Return Of The Triad Our wines leave you nothing to hope for (misunderstandabilationist)

08-14-2000, 01:36 PM	#12
Guest Guest	Re: Is this true? Yes ROTT very definately uses the WAD file format and it was borrowed from Id with their consent. Various other bits of Doom type code also ended up in ROTT too according to Mark Dochtermann. The ROTT WAD is used primarily for storing graphics, sound and music. The RTL file (ROTT LEVEL File?) contains the 2D map data. Both the WAD file format and the RTL file format are documented and fairly easy to work with. Tony

08-14-2000, 02:13 PM	#13
Guest Guest	Re: Is this true? Moonbuzz <----Our wines leave you nothing to hope for (misunderstandabilationist) Looks like you better pop a cork and start drinkin' ------------------ Thats no ordinary Wang. /\|\ Message reviewed by BullFrog. /\|\

08-14-2000, 02:53 PM	#14
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: Is this true? <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Crosma: Every Id game is linked together through characters somehow.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Now that is not true. ------------------ Joe Siegler - Webmaster, 3D Realms --- Got a Duke Nukem Forever Question? GO READ THE FAQ BEFORE YOU POST ABOUT IT! Click here for info on how to use this UBB __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

08-14-2000, 06:30 PM	#15
Theseus314	Re: Is this true? Appart from crystal caves and the pre-apogee games, I can't think of an example where this doesn't hold true

08-16-2000, 07:53 AM	#16
helstegt	Re: Is this true? The Quake games doesn't even have a character... ------------------ True eloquence consists in saying all that should be said, and that only helstegt - my personal homepage

08-16-2000, 09:34 AM	#17
Flaose	Re: Is this true? Sure they do! The Quake guy!

08-16-2000, 01:36 PM	#18
Guest Guest	Re: Is this true? Lets test your theory. Commander Keen was the first, OK. Wolf3d: Keen's Grandfather DOOM: No connection to others DOOM II: same characters as DOOM (duh) Wolf3d level, dead Keens Quake: Dopefish Quake II: Dopefish Quake 3: Arena: Dopefish?, DOOM guy as a character. so, DOOM has no connection to other games. and apart from the Dopefish, neither do the Quakes. ------------------ "It wasn't supposed to turn out like this.." (Sebastian "Doyle" Krist) ROTT2: Return Of The Triad Our wines leave you nothing to hope for (misunderstandabilationist)

08-16-2000, 02:34 PM	#19
Theseus314	Re: Is this true? "and apart from the Dopefish, neither do the Quakes" So appart from having a connection, it doesn't have a connection yeah?

08-16-2000, 11:56 PM	#20
Crosma	Re: Is this true? Dopefish is in Quake ------------------ Hell Is... comic strip. Email: spirogyra@crosma.co.uk ICQ: 40937169 AIM: Crosma1 MSN: crosma@hotmail.com __________________ (define love (lambda () (map conquer all)))

08-17-2000, 08:15 AM	#21
helstegt	Re: Is this true? And there wasn't many Catacomb 3-D references in Keen either ------------------ True eloquence consists in saying all that should be said, and that only helstegt - my personal homepage

08-17-2000, 09:13 AM	#22
Guest Guest	Re: Is this true? Hey, I just founf out that they're really making Keen for game Boy Color, and Id's plans on Making return to Castle Wolfenstien, look at this link: http://pocket.ign.com/news/22671.html

08-17-2000, 04:49 PM	#23
Guest Guest	Re: Is this true? The Dopefish is just a cameo appearance, saying that those games are "limked ny characters" is really pushing it, it's like saying that all ID games have John and Adrian Carmack in their credits, and also the ID logo on them. ------------------ "It wasn't supposed to turn out like this.." (Sebastian "Doyle" Krist) ROTT2: Return Of The Triad Our wines leave you nothing to hope for (misunderstandabilationist)