Prey now available on Steam

boglito · 11-29-2006, 04:02 PM

YES! Prey is coming to steam (tomorrow!) and you CAN register your existing key for free!

Not everybody are quite as badly in love with steam as I am, but I'm sure this comes from a lot of us:

Thank you!

source

.bog.

[edit]If I had known this I would have been happy to not receive a copy of prey via mail (assuming the triton-code would still work). Is it too late to cancel?

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Gryph · 11-29-2006, 04:08 PM

http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php

I thought Scott didn't like Steam.

Good news is that all retail purchases can be validated in Steam! Hooray for Steam!

Theseus314 · 11-29-2006, 04:15 PM

I think this is a good call. Sucks that it's so expensive though. Prey is like £15 in the shops right now.

boglito · 11-29-2006, 04:17 PM

Prey on steam = goodness.
Being able to register retail/triton copy of prey on steam = Godliness.

3drealms have made me a very happy customer.

.bog.

Jiminator · 11-29-2006, 04:35 PM

why exactly would i want to register my copy on steam?
granted, I don't use steam,
except for my half-life attempt, for which a coupon had expired...

Orochi Avlis · 11-29-2006, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jiminathare

why exactly would i want to register my copy on steam?

Streaming patches and content.

SyntaxN · 11-29-2006, 04:44 PM

What....?
So why is Steam suddenly the download platform of choice for 3dr? (because it´s the only working one I guess

)

Gryph · 11-29-2006, 04:46 PM

I think 2K Games had some major say in this deal (well, of course since their the publisher) but I wonder if they went ahead with it even if Scott said no?

isolated1 · 11-29-2006, 04:54 PM

When my Triton downloaded version of Prey stopped working, I thought I wouldn't need my key and deleted it from my password program. Is there a way I can get my key emailed to me so I can get it off Steam? Thanks.

Altered Reality · 11-29-2006, 04:57 PM

What will happen now to people who bought the BOXED version of Prey? Will they HAVE to register to Steam to get patches and content in the future?
And what about the people who WILL buy the boxed version of Prey in the future? Will registration be compulsory for them?

Damien_Azreal · 11-29-2006, 04:59 PM

Hmmm.... I can use my CD-key with Steam, nice. Once I can do that with my CoD games I'll be in heaven.

avatar_58 · 11-29-2006, 05:02 PM

What in the hell, mere minutes before this was announced Shack had an interview posted about Scott claiming he would never use Steam. Wow.....either 2kgames holds more power over Prey or something else came up.

Also - how is MP treated now? Can I, someone who won't add it to steam, now not be able to use MP? Not that it was busting with players, but you know what I mean.

Joe Siegler · 11-29-2006, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Altered Reality

What will happen now to people who bought the BOXED version of Prey? Will they HAVE to register to Steam to get patches and content in the future?

No. Not that I'm aware of. This is just a digital distribution thing. Don't go getting your panties in a knot again.

RP. · 11-29-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

No. Not that I'm aware of. This is just a digital distribution thing. Don't go getting your panties in a knot again.

This is on steampowered.com:

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Previous purchasers of the retail or downloaded editions of Prey can activate a copy on Steam at no cost by using their existing product key.

How ever, like with other steam titles, if you don't activate the steam version, you should still be able to play Vs people who do use it.

Damien_Azreal · 11-29-2006, 05:20 PM

Yes, you can register retail version with Steam. But what he was asking is if people who don't register will still be able to get updates and patches.

Joe Siegler · 11-29-2006, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

Yes, you can register retail version with Steam. But what he was asking is if people who don't register will still be able to get updates and patches.

Well, yeah - as an option. All that is happening here (as I understand it - nobody told me this was happening until today) is this:

1) The activation key you had for Prey, either sent to you from Triton via email, or in the packaging in the boxed copy can be used to activate Prey for free on Steam, and then you can download it there. IF YOU WANT TO.

2) If you buy it in the store, there's no need to connect to Steam UNLESS YOU WANT TO. Assuming there are further patches, I presume they'll be made available in a standalone form like the other two have been.

3) Obviously, if you want a digital only file, you'll need to go through Steam. If you're a new customer, you'll need to buy it through Steam. If you are an old customer (Triton/Retail box), you can use your key you had already as stated on steampowered.com.

Lost key? You'd need to go through 2K regarding that - 3DR can't help there, we don't have any kind of customer information regarding who bought Prey, let alone who had what keys - there's over a million of 'em.

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Yes, you can register retail version with Steam. But what he was asking is if people who don't register will still be able to get updates and patches.

See above, I believe I've answered that twice now.

avatar_58 · 11-29-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RP.

How ever, like with other steam titles, if you don't activate the steam version, you should still be able to play Vs people who do use it.

Yes but you know damn well the amount of players becomes nill. I remember when the original HL games headed to steam and it was optional, the amount of players dropped from hundreds to less than 10. Since Prey was already barren, I expect playing without Steam is just plain silly.

However can someone elaborate on the flip-flop? I checked shack and it was barely an hour difference between the interview and the steam announcement. Come on Scott, either they gave you an offer you cannot refuse or you have no control over 2kgames decisions.

Joe Siegler · 11-29-2006, 05:25 PM

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However can someone elaborate on the flip-flop? I checked shack and it was barely an hour difference between the interview and the steam announcement. Come on Scott, either they gave you an offer you cannot refuse or you have no control over 2kgames decisions.

Scott's away on vacation, and this was all stuff he handled - I have no information on any of that. As I said above, I didn't even know this was happening until today.

avatar_58 · 11-29-2006, 05:28 PM

I mean no disrespect of course Joe, but its just that I read through that interview at work and was glad to hear Scott's comments. I come home and suddenly his steam remarks mean nothing as a game he helped bring to life now appears on the very service he badmouthed. I literally did a double take on the news.

Kristian Joensen · 11-29-2006, 05:28 PM

I believe 3D Realms's always reserves direct sale rights including online rights in their deals.

Also the deal that was announced on the Triton (Then Game XStream) page was between 3D Realms as Triton, 2K Games was not announced as a deal party.

However in the next gen podcast Scott mentions something about a deal between 2K Games and Triton involving the price Triton could seel Prey for.

Now this happens compeletely confusing me.

Joe Siegler · 11-29-2006, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by avatar_58

I mean no disrespect of course Joe, but its just that I read through that interview at work and was glad to hear Scott's comments. I come home and suddenly his steam remarks mean nothing as a game he helped bring to life now appears on the very service he badmouthed. I literally did a double take on the news.

Just because someone says something doesn't mean they can't change their minds.

Damien_Azreal · 11-29-2006, 05:31 PM

I think it's a great idea, I love Steam.

Kristian Joensen · 11-29-2006, 05:34 PM

Exactly there commonly are disrepancies between when a interview is given and when it is published, Scott can have changed his mind between given the interview and the interview beeing published.

Especially if Gabe N heard the Next Generation podcast and decided to call Scott and correct his bad impression, I don't know.

I mean even if ALL my speculation is wrong it is still the case that that are 100's of ways this could have come about without any foul play, we don't know all the facts.

I really don't see this as a negative thing.

avatar_58 · 11-29-2006, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Just because someone says something doesn't mean they can't change their minds.

Well pardon my ignorance, but when was that interview done? Of course people change their minds, but what occurred in such little time to suddenly make the deal seem that much better? From what I see Steam hasn't changed in a good year or so.

Kristian Joensen · 11-29-2006, 05:38 PM

Did you see my post abouve yours ?

Anyway what if Gabe heard what Scott said about the steam deal beeing almost as bad as working with a publishers and contacted him saying that was not the case when working with someone like 3DR ?

I won't prentend to know how this happened but that is one way out of hundreds this could have happened.

But it wouldn't surprise me if the timing of the inteview was just a coincident.

0marTheZealot · 11-29-2006, 05:50 PM

It was recently, like 2006'ish. It's funny to see Scott bad mouthing Steam, pimping Triton and all that shit, and then when push comes to shove comes to bottomline, goes to Steam.

Anyways, 3DR has no room to talk. They should get a game out on a Windows platform before telling other (extremely successful) companies how to run their own business.

Crayola · 11-29-2006, 05:54 PM

I heard that podcast with Scott Miller a while back, so I'm surprised about this too. Some reason this gives me a feeling that Valve is going to make Steam Powered a separate company soon.

avatar_58 · 11-29-2006, 06:01 PM

If Steam were a separate company, perhaps funded by the company's who use it then it would be very successful and self supporting. I wouldn't feel nearly as wary about using it when you don't have to worry about an unsuccessful game from Valve hurting finances.

However I still argue the price tag. Why would I pay $49 for no box just the game, when I can pay the same (or lesser used) at ebgames and get the CE with all the goodies? Steam games should be cheap and affordable, in the less than $10.00 range.

RP. · 11-29-2006, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avatar_58

However I still argue the price tag. Why would I pay $49 for no box just the game, when I can pay the same (or lesser used) at ebgames and get the CE with all the goodies? Steam games should be cheap and affordable, in the less than $10.00 range.

The price is up to the developer decision, not Valve, however, it might be 2K trying to making some extra bucks to cover Triton failiure, hence the price.

avatar_58 · 11-29-2006, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RP.

The price is up to the developer decision, not Valve, however, it might be 2K trying to making some extra bucks to cover Triton failiure, hence the price.

What is your point? Valve's games aren't much cheaper compared to their boxed copies either. It's like they actually think games are worth that price without anything to show for it. I barely justified paying the CE price even with all the bells and whistles, giving me just the data isn't good enough.

If Steam wants to trump the brick and mortar thinking, they have to lower the cost to a point where it is very attractive. I mean if I could get Dark Messiah for $15 or less on steam as opposed to the $54 CAD in stores I would honestly consider it. However right now the price is ridiculous without a box/manual/disc/etc.

ShadeEX · 11-29-2006, 06:41 PM

Wow i didn't know this either.. till now..

Hopefully alot of gamers will try out prey now, so more people can come online and play with us..

I was a little eager so i tried entering my retail key.. didn't work.. i guess it only works when prey gets released but it would be cool to have it preloaded so i could play on the release.. plus now i don't have to worry about scratching my Prey dvd..

Hudson · 11-29-2006, 07:37 PM

Another developer sees the light

Thriller · 11-29-2006, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crayola

I heard that podcast with Scott Miller a while back, so I'm surprised about this too. Some reason this gives me a feeling that Valve is going to make Steam Powered a separate company soon.

Yay, the EA of the internet. \o/ e-A!

Mountain Man · 11-29-2006, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by avatar_58

Well pardon my ignorance, but when was that interview done? Of course people change their minds, but what occurred in such little time to suddenly make the deal seem that much better?

Even more perplexing is that Scott has been bad mouthing Steam pretty much from day one.

Of course it's entirely possible that despite his misgivings, he also recognizes that Steam is really the only viable option at the moment. In other words, his decision may have been driven by nothing more than lack of options, and this is likely a hell of a lot cheaper, not to mention simpler, than trying to mail out boxed copies to however many customers got screwed by Triton.

DissidentRage · 11-29-2006, 08:22 PM

For once, I agree with Mountain Man. If someone bought it online, they knew what risk they were taking. They got lucky with this deal because otherwise they'd have paid upwards to $60 for a game they could never play. I'd rather be caught by a rope net than no net if I'm taking a plunge; I wouldn't gripe because it wasn't a cotton quilt.

ZaphodB · 11-30-2006, 02:38 AM

If we decide to activate our Prey on Steam, does it mean we have to download Prey through Steam to play there, or can we do an install from the CDs? I'm kinda leaning towards using Steam in that I can just put my Prey play CD in a safe place instead of having to use it.

lauwie0 · 11-30-2006, 03:47 AM

wow cool, another great game in mygames list in steam

X-Vector · 11-30-2006, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 0marTheZealot

It was recently, like 2006'ish. It's funny to see Scott bad mouthing Steam, pimping Triton and all that shit, and then when push comes to shove comes to bottomline, goes to Steam.

If you think blatant hypocrisy is funny, then yeah.

As a reminder, here's Scott Miller's take on things six months ago:

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Quick comments (haven't read this thread):

o Yes, we're going to lose some people over this. Such is life.

o However, we're trying to slow down piracy, and unfortunately, because piracy is so completely out of control, we need to take measures that upset paying gamers.

I'm someone who despises Steam myself, so if I like Triton, I think it will change the minds of other Steam haters, too.
o We have data that shows that the anti-piracy measures we're taking within Prey can greatly increase legitimate sales. This data is not available to the public.

o Half-Life 2 and the Episodes do this, too, but Prey will do this to a less intrusive degree. We've taken a hard look at Steam's method and have improved them, making them more customer-friendly.

o Trust me on this: This will become significantly more common in the next year. It's the leaders that catch all the arrows, though.

o Again, I hate that we have to do this, but games are costly ($10,000,000+), and it will take roughly 800,000 sales just to break even. (Our publisher makes money well before this point, simply because they have a different break even level, and it's the developer who pays for the development cost -- the publisher merely loans the developer money, then recoups it from the dev's royalty stream.)

o This system comes with benefits, in that if we cut down piracy we can stay in business longer. We can also patch Prey behind-the-scenes without the player ever needing to lift a finger (assuming the player connects to Triton, to allow auto-patching to take place).

o Triton will not blitz players with marketing and ads like Steam does.

o And remember, with Triton you can download games and begin playing them when they've reached about 20% complete on average -- not a bad deal.

I'm someone who doesn't like Steam. Triton has completely won me over. Hopefully it'll win over other Steam haters, too.

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showth...301#post316301

GG 3DR.

ShadeEX · 11-30-2006, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger

For once, I agree with Mountain Man. If someone bought it online, they knew what risk they were taking. They got lucky with this deal because otherwise they'd have paid upwards to $60 for a game they could never play. I'd rather be caught by a rope net than no net if I'm taking a plunge; I wouldn't gripe because it wasn't a cotton quilt.

I agree with Roger on this one..

I didn't even know Triton had gone bankrupt.. But as roger Said its definatly a good choise so people who bought the triton version dosn't have to pay full price on a retail..

Now i wish that my COD key would work too..

Foxy · 11-30-2006, 05:39 AM

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Streaming patches and content.

That's what autoupdaters are for.

11-29-2006, 04:59 PM	#11
Damien_Azreal Super Moderator	Re: Prey coming to Steam... Hmmm.... I can use my CD-key with Steam, nice. Once I can do that with my CoD games I'll be in heaven. __________________ Monolith Fanboy since 1997 Upcoming Anticipated Games: Doom, Shadow Warrior 2, Mafia III, DisHonored 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

11-29-2006, 05:20 PM	#15
Damien_Azreal Super Moderator	Re: Prey coming to Steam... Yes, you can register retail version with Steam. But what he was asking is if people who don't register will still be able to get updates and patches. __________________ Monolith Fanboy since 1997 Upcoming Anticipated Games: Doom, Shadow Warrior 2, Mafia III, DisHonored 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

11-29-2006, 05:31 PM	#22
Damien_Azreal Super Moderator	Re: Prey coming to Steam I think it's a great idea, I love Steam. __________________ Monolith Fanboy since 1997 Upcoming Anticipated Games: Doom, Shadow Warrior 2, Mafia III, DisHonored 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

11-29-2006, 04:02 PM	#1
boglito	Prey now available on Steam YES! Prey is coming to steam (tomorrow!) and you CAN register your existing key for free! Not everybody are quite as badly in love with steam as I am, but I'm sure this comes from a lot of us: Thank you! source .bog. [edit]If I had known this I would have been happy to not receive a copy of prey via mail (assuming the triton-code would still work). Is it too late to cancel? [/edit] Last edited by boglito; 11-29-2006 at 04:06 PM.

11-29-2006, 04:08 PM	#2
Gryph	Prey coming to Steam... http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php I thought Scott didn't like Steam. Good news is that all retail purchases can be validated in Steam! Hooray for Steam! __________________ 1Emulation: The Peoples' Emulation Site I pity the fool! - Mr. T

11-29-2006, 04:15 PM	#3
Theseus314	Re: Prey coming to Steam... I think this is a good call. Sucks that it's so expensive though. Prey is like £15 in the shops right now.

11-29-2006, 04:17 PM	#4
boglito	Re: Prey coming to Steam... Prey on steam = goodness. Being able to register retail/triton copy of prey on steam = Godliness. 3drealms have made me a very happy customer. .bog.

11-29-2006, 04:35 PM	#5
Jiminator	Re: Prey coming to Steam... why exactly would i want to register my copy on steam? granted, I don't use steam, except for my half-life attempt, for which a coupon had expired... __________________ big badass nasty weapons here....

11-29-2006, 04:44 PM	#7
SyntaxN	Re: Prey coming to Steam... What....? So why is Steam suddenly the download platform of choice for 3dr? (because it´s the only working one I guess )

11-29-2006, 04:46 PM	#8
Gryph	Re: Prey coming to Steam... I think 2K Games had some major say in this deal (well, of course since their the publisher) but I wonder if they went ahead with it even if Scott said no? __________________ 1Emulation: The Peoples' Emulation Site I pity the fool! - Mr. T Last edited by Gryph; 11-29-2006 at 05:11 PM.

11-29-2006, 04:54 PM	#9
isolated1	Re: Prey coming to Steam... When my Triton downloaded version of Prey stopped working, I thought I wouldn't need my key and deleted it from my password program. Is there a way I can get my key emailed to me so I can get it off Steam? Thanks.

11-29-2006, 04:57 PM	#10
Altered Reality	Re: Prey coming to Steam... What will happen now to people who bought the BOXED version of Prey? Will they HAVE to register to Steam to get patches and content in the future? And what about the people who WILL buy the boxed version of Prey in the future? Will registration be compulsory for them? __________________ [...] We view customers as complete morons that will never catch on and [...] we're lying to them all the time. (Gabe Newell, Valve) I'm the worst enemy in film-making and a completely talentless idiot. (Uwe Boll) Faith is why you are wrong. (Crosma)

11-29-2006, 05:02 PM	#12
avatar_58	Re: Prey coming to Steam... What in the hell, mere minutes before this was announced Shack had an interview posted about Scott claiming he would never use Steam. Wow.....either 2kgames holds more power over Prey or something else came up. Also - how is MP treated now? Can I, someone who won't add it to steam, now not be able to use MP? Not that it was busting with players, but you know what I mean.

11-29-2006, 05:28 PM	#19
avatar_58	Re: Prey coming to Steam I mean no disrespect of course Joe, but its just that I read through that interview at work and was glad to hear Scott's comments. I come home and suddenly his steam remarks mean nothing as a game he helped bring to life now appears on the very service he badmouthed. I literally did a double take on the news.

11-29-2006, 05:28 PM	#20
Kristian Joensen	Re: Prey coming to Steam I believe 3D Realms's always reserves direct sale rights including online rights in their deals. Also the deal that was announced on the Triton (Then Game XStream) page was between 3D Realms as Triton, 2K Games was not announced as a deal party. However in the next gen podcast Scott mentions something about a deal between 2K Games and Triton involving the price Triton could seel Prey for. Now this happens compeletely confusing me. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

11-29-2006, 05:34 PM	#23
Kristian Joensen	Re: Prey coming to Steam Exactly there commonly are disrepancies between when a interview is given and when it is published, Scott can have changed his mind between given the interview and the interview beeing published. Especially if Gabe N heard the Next Generation podcast and decided to call Scott and correct his bad impression, I don't know. I mean even if ALL my speculation is wrong it is still the case that that are 100's of ways this could have come about without any foul play, we don't know all the facts. I really don't see this as a negative thing. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

11-29-2006, 05:38 PM	#25
Kristian Joensen	Re: Prey coming to Steam Did you see my post abouve yours ? Anyway what if Gabe heard what Scott said about the steam deal beeing almost as bad as working with a publishers and contacted him saying that was not the case when working with someone like 3DR ? I won't prentend to know how this happened but that is one way out of hundreds this could have happened. But it wouldn't surprise me if the timing of the inteview was just a coincident. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

11-29-2006, 05:50 PM	#26
0marTheZealot	Re: Prey coming to Steam It was recently, like 2006'ish. It's funny to see Scott bad mouthing Steam, pimping Triton and all that shit, and then when push comes to shove comes to bottomline, goes to Steam. Anyways, 3DR has no room to talk. They should get a game out on a Windows platform before telling other (extremely successful) companies how to run their own business.

11-29-2006, 05:54 PM	#27
Crayola	Re: Prey coming to Steam I heard that podcast with Scott Miller a while back, so I'm surprised about this too. Some reason this gives me a feeling that Valve is going to make Steam Powered a separate company soon.

11-29-2006, 06:01 PM	#28
avatar_58	Re: Prey coming to Steam If Steam were a separate company, perhaps funded by the company's who use it then it would be very successful and self supporting. I wouldn't feel nearly as wary about using it when you don't have to worry about an unsuccessful game from Valve hurting finances. However I still argue the price tag. Why would I pay $49 for no box just the game, when I can pay the same (or lesser used) at ebgames and get the CE with all the goodies? Steam games should be cheap and affordable, in the less than $10.00 range.

11-29-2006, 06:41 PM	#31
ShadeEX	Re: Prey coming to Steam Wow i didn't know this either.. till now.. Hopefully alot of gamers will try out prey now, so more people can come online and play with us.. I was a little eager so i tried entering my retail key.. didn't work.. i guess it only works when prey gets released but it would be cool to have it preloaded so i could play on the release.. plus now i don't have to worry about scratching my Prey dvd.. __________________ Quote: "In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluxuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data." My Youtube Page-My Website(Not updated yet)-My Other Blog

11-29-2006, 07:37 PM	#32
Hudson	Re: Prey coming to Steam Another developer sees the light __________________ Staying Frosty Since 09/06/07 - I love you Katie <3 “Software is like sex; it's better when it's free.” - Linus Torvalds “Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.” - Calvin & Hobbes [INSERT SYSTEM SPECS THAT NO ONE CARES ABOUT HERE]

11-29-2006, 08:22 PM	#35
DissidentRage	Re: Prey coming to Steam For once, I agree with Mountain Man. If someone bought it online, they knew what risk they were taking. They got lucky with this deal because otherwise they'd have paid upwards to $60 for a game they could never play. I'd rather be caught by a rope net than no net if I'm taking a plunge; I wouldn't gripe because it wasn't a cotton quilt. __________________ Alt for djevelen!

11-30-2006, 02:38 AM	#36
ZaphodB	Re: Prey coming to Steam If we decide to activate our Prey on Steam, does it mean we have to download Prey through Steam to play there, or can we do an install from the CDs? I'm kinda leaning towards using Steam in that I can just put my Prey play CD in a safe place instead of having to use it. __________________ "If there's ANYTHING larger than my EGO I want it shot and killed right now" - Zaphod Beeblebrox This Public Service Announcement brought to you by: "The People Who Have NO Idea What's Going On" (TPWHNOIWGON) We thank you for ignoring it.

11-30-2006, 03:47 AM	#37
lauwie0	Re: Prey coming to Steam wow cool, another great game in mygames list in steam __________________ Why spend your time reading useless signatures like this one, you better could use it to explore these forums. But since u are reading this nicely made signature, please think about it that when u finished reading it you may call yourself officialy an "idiot" ;)